Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation (Ep19) Like Brothers - Phelous 

I remember when Leo lashed out a Splinter when he was going through a self-doubt arc

The 2003 series was pretty damn clean...but I had to check out when things went to shit in the later end of it. Ya know? When the superheroes, dragons, and demons came through?

@@djdragondrawer9339 Thing is, those actually EXIST in the Mirage Comics. 4Kids didn't just make those up.

@@Igarappappa You mean the turtles were using lame mystical weapons that just throw energy beams? While also turning into giant dragons fighting evil demon shredder? For real? That's so absurd. Too absurd. I can't vibe, I'm sorry lol

@@djdragondrawer9339 Magic, aliens, superheroes, demons, other dimensions, etc. All were in the original Mirage surprisingly. They had their own ideas for things, but they drew a lot from the source material of the comics more than the 87 one where it was doing more it's own thing.

Remember when Splinter thought he helped Venus during their battle with Bonesteel and the vampires? *Flashes* *back* Splinter: You stink! (repeats) Konquest Raiden: You. Are useless.

"What are you talking about?"

@@SammEater "Splinter's pathetic!"

Chi-nus deMei-lo: And do you remember when one of you would ask another 'does your face hurt?' and he would answer 'no' and then the first would say 'well, it is killing me!'? Leonardo: No. Chi-nus: Well, *fuurrrrk!*

A sentient watermelon in a show like this would not be the least surprising

🍉: i hate splinter

@@shenloken2 That would mean they killed and ate the sentient Watermelon. Lol

She has nowhere to go sadly. Whether it be home or series. There's Power Rangers but it's the same universe except for other Turtleverses. Now wouldn't that be a character element for Venus if there was another TMNT crossover: she wants to get out of her world by any means necessary minus being evil unless something happens.

@@dnmstarsi No one could blame her for turning evil to escape the wonder quadruplets

@@minatempes4151 Except for the other turtles who know that's not right especially when there's other methods to eliminate these pimples without going evil. Like say, have them take on 2003 Shredder and the Foot and act like something major is going on but believe these four can take him and then they just watch the bloodfest. LOL

If I were her, I'd try to find a way to the 2003 turtles universe and go live with the Ninja tribunal. They're all about shinobi magic and would likely welcome her with open arms.

@@legoking6165 None of these incompetent idiots know about the other universes.....I have a feeling they all have brain rot.

Meanwhile I'm like:"How did he get that Watermelon? Or any food for that matter?" Splinter has like one homeless blind human friend....and it's not like the turtles can walk down to the local food Bank and be like "Yo....we need food." From what I've seen in the comics (even in the cartoons we even guess this) April and Casey gets them food....so who the heck.......I wouldn't buy these weirdos food especially since these versions hate humans. There's giant plotholes in this show. Nothing makes sense in it.

@@Melodyofthesea78 What a way to use a shitty metaphor to point out plot holes in this train wreck of a show.

@Melodyofthesea78 ''It just raises too many questions.''

Damn it Next mutation! Leo is my favorite turtle! Why did you go out of your way to make him such a terrible character?

Yep. Sure, we have 7 episodes left but right now, this is just sad. Hope these "new ways" were worth it for him.

Best go update the list

The stupid looking faces they make go well with Phelous’s voice when he openly mocks them

@@dnmstarsi I SERIOUSLY thought we were like 2 or 3 episodes away from the end! How did Defenders of the Realm get less episodes than TMNT:NM?!?

That would make more sense than anything in this show

remember when the turtles and especially Don were so disappointed to find out they were just an accident caused by irresponsible science lab waste disposal? They built up something so much better in their heads. total midichlorian situation. Though it would have been nice if they'd kept the original idea of Perry being an Utrom, suggesting well okay you're an accident but you're an ALIEN accident at least.

In my honest opinion, that's the best joke he's made while reviewing this show.

This one got me to laugh

Not gonna lie, I actually thought that there was gonna be an actual montage of the "good times" but it turned out to be a segway to Venus's examples that made no sense.

Next Mutation just got shredded!

Holy shit you're right

That's a good plan, they needed less competition

@@Giran_0 well keep in mind who thought of the plan

@@Giran_0 well why not plant a bomb on the island

@@skibot9974 it's stupid now

Wabuu: Leonardo is soooo stupid!

Golly gosh! My word!

Michelangelo is completely useless now! ...Sorry, I'm just suffering from Jetlag.

Aren't they all useless? They aren't doing anything.....It should be called TMNT The Do......stuff......

@@Melodyofthesea78 They're Coward Turtles: The Next Retirement

Seems like that attitude may have rubbed off on the fans-well, were there fans of this show? But still she is actually a fairly pleasant character-I feel sorry for her.

The reason everyone hates Venus is because this is the only piece of turtles media she's ever been in and all the other characters are so terrible that they associate Venus with being a terrible character.

I think the first two episodes spoiled the soup; her existence bothered more people than the way everyone else acted, because she was the new element.

The worst thing she did was pull a Mary Sue and kill THE SHREDDER in 2 minutes tops. Other than than, I agree. She’s obviously the only Turtle that somewhat still acts like a Ninja Turtle (oh excuse me “Shinobi Turtle🙄”) and it’s too bad she’s become the Scrappy Doo of the TMNT brand and forbidden to reappear and done proper justice just because of the show she was attached to.

@@redstreak9430 *cough* defeat shredder

The biggest idiot of this episode must count for two points then, in the race for the biggest jabroni of the entire show.

@@nozoto my money is on Bonesteal

i watched that episode on netflix, and phelous didnt lie about that, it was the dumbest episode of the series

Oof

Why is the background music a clear knockoff of LL Cool J

We've gone from "Michaelangelo is brain dead" to "everyone is brain dead". Now, that's development.

I do agree. It perked up my interest.

Yeah, you kinda expected this by now but like Phelous, you're still hoping for just that one episode where the Turtles aren't babies and have some good development as well as an interesting story that isn't wasted.

Fry: Ah, those were the days.

Also the production order is inconsistent since one episode order follows THAT.

Yep 100%

I think most people who saw Next Mutation had their memories suppressed and took it out on the easy target Also there’s 26 episodes in the show not 20

Right, thanks.

Says a lot doesn't it

She wasn't the biggest problem, but she definitely was the result of said problem.

I was here for a Michaelangelo is Brain Dead joke.

Turtles Forever wasn’t even that bad and the 2003 series in general whatever your opinion on is it definitely had more competent people behind it than this

Turtles Forever's main problem was just how mean spirited and up their ass it was. It wasn't mind-numbingly incompetent.

Wouldn't exactly say mean spirited More so self defeating.

I liked Turtles Forever... not saying it was perfect, mind you.

There’s actually two clip shows in this one season show. The final episode (at least my final episode) was also kind of a clip show

The '87 TMNT is actually quite good; especially the first few seasons. I'd go as far as to say that season 1 of the classic cartoon is a masterpiece, and easy to see how the TMNT became a pop-culture phenomena virtually overnight. TMNT Season 1 holds up to this day.

@@JanetStarChild i strongly agree with that

The last ronin next mutation edition: Michelangelo is only turtle that survived the dragon lord ambush and he is about TOO....do nothing because he doesnt care about his not brothers and especially splinter

Ohhhh Next Mutation just got SHREDDED!

@@ironmaster6496 I hate Splinter 🎶

How do you have 3 clip shows worth of clips in 1 season?

You gotta give Phelous credit,this guy has endured many things and he's reviewed 19 episodes of this show.

@@duncananderson2113 Right? If the next episode really is as bad as he lets on, I think he might qualify for martyrdom. PS: I think you mean reviewed, not revived - at least I REALLY hope he didn't accidently bring it back from the cancelled.

@@Vigilluminatus Yeah but I think Phelous it's been years and I think Phelous is done that joke.

Or how Mikey’s shitty watermelon analogy actually kind of makes sense seeing as how similar Raph and Leo’s characterisations are. They’re like two identical halves of the same fruit*. *I personally don’t even like watermelons, so the knee-deep irony of sewage waste is even more perfect.

Then Raphael jumps into the pool

@@cameronstone4495 because he doesn’t want Leo to show him on how useless they both are

I miss old man

@@ninjamonkey508 We all do.

@@shimyku7820 At least he made a cameo in Windfall.

Remember when Dragon Lord started showing signs of being a TERRIBLE villain? (Insert flashback) TFS Vegeta: How did you know about the parts you weren't there for?

That could be a cute family gag in any good show. I have three siblings, and we truly want to murder each other sometimes, and then make overly detailed plans for world domination. But these cloaca-for-brains really just want to kill each others out of spite.

They are like family but they are not remember they are not brothers

Change leo to whiny jackass and it's more accurate.

​@@Dekomata I feel like he became whiny around the second half but he was consistently boring and stupid throughout the entire series but that is just me.

It’s a way to tell 2003 fans that complain about the 87 show to shut the hell up.

i guess it exists so to prove that the statement "every turtle media has something really good in it" wrong i mean even the bay movies and the freaking anime were more respectful of the characters than this crap

Right now, it's making a lot of failed TMNT episodes and seasons look good. Even the ones that aren't that bad look like masterpieces in comparison.

@@ironmaster6496 Yep. Pretty fucking bad when Michael “I’ll take your material and do whatever dumb shit I want with it” Bay does a substantially better job all across the board. I was pleasantly surprised by the 2014 TMNT film. It royally fucked up all members of the Foot Clan (including Karai, who I know would have realistically been disgusted by Shredder’s dastardly scheme and likely would have ended up helping the turtles stop it. Karai might be severe, but she has a good and extremely honorable heart), but did a startlingly good job with the turtles. Hell, Megan Fox even played a damn good April, which I did NOT expect. *Note: If Bay did any other TMNT movies-as your comment seems to suggest-I was not aware and have not seen them.

What? Bestiality? Naw dude. That shit's been going on since the Bible times. XD

Gorilla x Bonesteel new otp

Leonardo is Brain Dead...er.

😂😂😂😂😂

Raph has become the starscream to leo's Megatron.

maybe Leo is referring to the 1990 TMNT movie lol

"Most of these Turtles are SOOOOOOOOOO stupid. Heheheheh"

And give you more laughs!

Pretty sad when clumsy and lazy Dingo stuff looks masterful by comparison. God this show is truly abysmal. (I think this heap is probably tied with Bevanfield’s shitty animated ripoffs; I can’t in good conscience say either is worse than the other without feeling like I’ve let a horrible monster run amok.)

HAH, YES!!!!! Perfect use of animated Clerks!!

You found a New Way!

Your picture is cute. Where di d you get it?

Probably because he's Scott McNeil. That's about all I've got though.

@@thenumberquelve158 Funny enough Bonesteel doesn't bother me so much as it is everyone else REACTING to Bonesteel.The characters either don't take him seriously when he's a legit threat (which isn't too common) or take him TOO seriously when he's being totally incompetent.

@@Igarappappa The turtles are so incompetent that they take an incompetent "villain" seriously. I kind of wish the entire show was some parody instead of.....what we got.

Yeah but a lot of us are still sadden by this loss. Seeing how this episode is about remembering stuff including ones that don't have anything to do with the episode, I remember the various roles he played that were much better than Brain Dead Mikey (Flashback) I have no quotes for this. Just click on some random episode or compilation video about his characters. LOL

Same. But hey, it was him or us and at least Mortal Komedy was trying to be funny especially with the title so I can forgive the lightsaber stuff there. Although, I think he watch TNM before doing Komedy so yeah, the stupidity is contagious.

Yep, that sounds about right.

You mean Boom Boom Nardo.

@@Melodyofthesea78 You mean Loser-Nardo.

@@legoking6165 I'd go with Leo-Nerdo but we're all right about this joke of a leader.

@@dnmstarsi A joke... In a good way ?

Just to have a flimsy justification to make Venus sorta the token love interest without running into any implications about incest?

@@TheArceusftw I know, but I’m just saying they are hating each other more then they hate their enemies... Actually, tho I’m only watching this show from these reviews, doesn’t that love interest angle feel dropped? Like it was kinda brought up and just never mentioned again? Weird...

It's a weird example of Darkness Induced Audience Apathy. If the turtles are too stupid and mean spirited why should the audience care?

Especially since their brotherhood is what drives them in other shows and movies. The 87 Turtles weren’t shown as brothers but there was still a strong bond

For some reason I can hear Tommy Wiseau say "Dey are not brothers! Dey are nouuuuuut....oh hello Mark."

I don't know why, but I feel like the "Shredder comes back" episode will be considered as the worst by Phelous.

​@@shimyku7820 Well, you're definitely right about that given his breakdown near the end of that shit show.

Oh... I wish I never heard of the Next Mutation...

A team-up we wish to see happen but knowing the Next Mutation the’ll probably screw that up lol

Why would that make more sense than what actually happened?

@@PaperVivianTTYD Because it involves two different villains working together to take down the turtles (despite both of them having different goals but I think some temporary compromise could work) and it's a much better way to have these idiots reminisce how much the other sucks and aren't needed than some out of nowhere fight.

@@desmondmalone438 I mean, they did screw up the Bonesteel/Vam-Mi alliance in her FOUR part introduction.

@@dnmstarsi You mean her ONLY appearance. I also surprised that Dragon Lord didn't got involve despite he, like Vam-Mi, have connected with Chang I

He might as well poison em in their sleep if he wants the lair to himself.

Splinter is not athletic.

@@JoeChillton that would be _such_ a pity /s

@@Acidfrog475 for two seconds then realize let the old rat be

I HATE SPLINTER

@@masterfarr8265 A nEw WaY!?!

I guess they took a turtle from a different family and put them in a tank. I guess in the TNM crew's eyes, it justifies their dumb ass decision to make them not related especially when they wanted one of them to hook up with Venus.

Your guess is as good as mine.

@@dnmstarsi I mean just making venus a turtle that was mutated seperatly would be ok.

The ONLY reason the producers chiseled in the "We're not brothers" BS is so the male turtles could hit on and potentially date Venus without it being incest. That's it. But it really makes no sense; even if the turtles weren't biologically related, say, they were just placed into the same tank together, they were still raised together in the same home by the same parental figure, so they'd still feel like brothers by bond even if not by blood. It's the same reason you don't see step-siblings and adopted siblings dating each other.

@@rorylumley4727 Yeah but I guess they didn't think that idea completely through.

Yeah but at least the Space Rangers have a Spaceship in order to meet Yoda. How the hell did these idiots get ahold of these weapons?

@@dnmstarsi 2 Star Wars characters got drunk and dropped them?

@@s.nifrum4580 Honestly, I went with Vader and Palpatine decided to discard all of the lightsabers that former Jedi had into some primitive planet sometime after Episode 3.

@@dnmstarsi I still like the drunk lightsaber fight idea

@@s.nifrum4580 Same.

I unfortunately watched it foolishly thinking it'd be good, thankfully my brain kept me from remembering most of this dumpster fire. I do enjoy watching it again with Phelous mocking it.

I think I may have missed out on that show as well...

I like to think there were no good times she could think of which makes sense given how the show treats her and the others.

I know, right?!

*WE'RE NOT BROTHERS!!* intensifies

Nope.

@@TommyDeonauthsArchives I'd have to call that an upset.

the biggest idiot of this series is probably Master Chun

The New Way to be the Biggest Idiot

Not being part of this episode. That's where he was. He was taking a page from Venus and trying to avoid this show as best as possible even with the inevitable "I hate Splinter" remarks.

Bro this comment took me out 😂😂 it’s too true. Like they just give up and say “screw it, writing is too hard. Guys just randomly act out some stuff and that’ll be the episode format from now on.”

@@a_sort_of_artist_7259 I mean, I'm all for improv, but a show still needs writers and directors.

@@legoking6165 yeah, improv definitely can make a scene better! And yes, this show desperately needed people who actually cared about what they were writing.

That's also why the characters are so mean to each other - both voice actors and suit actors were just venting off frustration.

Or MK Defenders of The Realm look like Gargoyles!

I'm afraid you're wrong buddy, you can tell they were running out of ideas when they made TWO clip shows in the first season (there's another coming up about Venus)

See they are the same turtles from the concert continuity universe

Even Rick and Morty did the clip show concept well too, with them remembering events and supporting characters that never happened.

3: the final episode of Warehouse 13 where they flashed back to episodes that were recorded, but never aired, except in Pete's case since "all of his experience" in the Warehouse was his Defining Moment

It was funny when that one Utena episode snuck different things into the clips, like Saul of the MoleMen

@@davidspring4003 4: Ed Edd n Eddy: Parodying Clip Shows by coming up with wacky stories that couldn't happen in a real episode and the only clip from a previous episodes is from THAT SPECIFIC episode

5: Avatar: The Last Air Bender did a clip show in the form a theatrical play. The Fire Nation made a play telling the story of Aang and his friends while Team Avatar themselves watch their interpretation of them and what happened in the show up to now except for the end where the Fire Nation ends the play with Ozai defeating Aang.

(Thinks back to the clone episode where Goat sounds kept popping up near the end) "ENOUGH WITH THE GOATS!!!"

Honestly, none of these actors seem particularly _wrong_ for the Turtles they're cast as. With better writing, I think they'd all be pretty good. It's just that we never get a chance to hear any of them speaking dialogue that isn't completely and utterly asinine.

@@rassilontdavros3004 Did the people who worked on this show want to make a ninja turtles series ?

@@duncananderson2113 No clue. 1997 is probably _slightly_ too early for anybody working on this to be a Promoted Fanboy though.

@@rassilontdavros3004 yeah true,still it feels like the people who worked on this show only had a basic understanding of TMNT

Mikey did say he missed Shredder in one of the Parts from East Meets West. Sure that was really dumb but still.

People who saw this show and realized how much of an ass Leo is compared to Mikey in later episodes.

@@dnmstarsi good point, I probably should have seen that since I have the whole series on DVD (sad I know, but it was really cheap). At this point Leo will finish with the most idiot awards by the end

@@libraryham No shame in being a seeker of crap.

(Raphael crashes through the roof, gets his ass kicked in one scene and says this memorable line) Raphael: DAAAAAMN!!! Yeah, those weren't very supportive flashbacks but they were still better than what we got in this show.

The new way of the Jedi lol

Ugandan Leonardo: Do u know da new wae?

It's a story for another time

I'm not a big fan of TMNT but even I felt annoyed by that line as well as the reason to make them unrelated.