Nintendo NERFED Bagging in Wave 6... | Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 

I dont even play this game but your commentary and the fact you are clearly having a grand old time playing this game is just so refreshing and wholesome. Love your videos :)

Speaking of bagging, you know a shock is coming when you have a Bullet Bill behind a golden mushroom.

If you ever mention bagging around shortcat you will enter a 5 minute unskippable cutscene where shortcat lectures you about literally every single intricacy about bagging

On one hand, yeah, bagging requires knowing how far back you can get away with being and how to take shortcuts and time shit, and the comebacks are nice. On the other, it really is hard to resist being all, “Come on! It’s a RACE! A RACE! Have you ever heard of ‘em?!”

12:25 might be the most insane trick ive ever seen 😂 you literally kicked in to a pool shot and knocked them both off the map

So what they nerfed was not bagging, but item chaining by stopping.

When I saw everyone over-reacting over the bagging nerf I though I was the one going insane. It was pretty oubvious that they were nerfing stopping at item boxes, not bagging as a whole. Like, just go slowly and stay in the back instead of stopping/going backwards lol

I'm more of a fan of this new bagging strategy than sitting on one item set all day. Also, congrats on hitting 200k❤

Congrats on 200k Shortcat!!! I really really love your videos, and you’re what inspired me to finally give making videos a try too! 😊 so thank you!

I kinda found another bullet extension. On N64 Choco Mountain, use your Bullet right after the last item set. I found this on accident. (Totally not with the help of custom items, i would never!😅)

Love the amount of long form videos we’re getting from this update

I think the only bad thing about this change is getting used to not using all three triple mushrooms into item boxes you just used since you'll probably end up pulling a green or something in its place.

1:44 We may not have gotten an official yellowbrick and Shortcat collab but seeing him in shortcat’s lobby is good enough for me!

What gave bagging a bad look was when no one was moving forward at first item set and nintendo removed exactly that. They know how to balance their game it seems...

What if you do the stopping and reversing way before the item set so that by the time you reach the item set, you’re not technically stopped or reversed, you’re just going while being behind so you’ll get good items?🤔

I do find it interesting that this bagging nerf decreases the average number of shocks per race on the notorious bagging tracks cuz less good items get cycled.

I think bagging doesnt really work well after the patch, but i think it's still fully possible to play in the back and capitalising with a comeback

“Whoops i got heated there” that was like the most chill way of being heated only something shortcat could do.

200k subscribers 🎉 I started watching you at around 30 - 40k subs, and now you have 200k! I love your videos, your commentary is awesome and your tutorials are awesome!

200k! Congrats shortcat. I just recently started watching your stuff I’m really enjoying the live commentary!

Maybe Peachette has a smaller hurtbox than the other characters with those stats? Or maybe it's because she's a dlc character who is still top tier?

DK mountain has so few mushroom spots you have to use the mushroom whenever there is a large turn or a straight. Which might make it good but not in a regular sense because you are always going to be either be doing shortcuts or boosting. There is 0 down time if you use this method

I love both of your channels. The way you explain things is just so helpful and something that nobody else does.

Congrats at 200k subs shortcat u deserve it!

Thank you for posting this during my lunch break at school, it honestly really makes my day. Congrats on 200k🎉!

i was just looking for a competitive mk8d guide but now i’m obsessed with watching shortcat videos lol. i only really keep up with competitive smash ultimate but it’s very fascinating to watch a pro mario kart player and learning more about the meta and strategies. love the commentary on these videos, keep it up

Congratulations on 200k!!! 🎉🎉🎉 Rooting for your channel's growth!! 📈 Always looking forward to your videos ❤ At this point, a video for how to be a pro bagger is coming soon isn't it 😂 though that'd probably come after a tracks guide compilation 😆

Congrats on 200k subs! You completely deserve it!

So for the boomerang throws at 13:58... you threw it once to get rid of a red shell behind you, and then you threw it a second time at the end of the race. But it never returned. And that has happened to me. Twice. I have no idea why it happens and I can't replicate it, because of this I'm certain it's a new bug.

that point about frontrunning on cheeseland is brilliant! getting first off a frontrun on cheeseland is just as lucky as getting a first off bagging on (for example) waluigi pinball, but understanding that nuance requires experience that noobs just don't have yet. very well said shortcat.

Congrats on 200k subscribers! ❤❤

I remember when i first tried bagging, i SUCKED and was very fixed on running, but ur vids helped me find out HOW to bag. Thx Shortcat, love ur vids!!!!

i love ur videos shortcat i like how you speak nonstop even during races and dont get distracted... mk8d god....

I love bagging in all his ways, every part is beautiful

Shortcat is the only Mario Kart RU-vidr I watch and I’ve been playing for a long time, keep up the good work 🎉

Congrats on 200K! 🥳

almost the entire video you were like "🤓☝"

Congrats on 200K 🎉🗣️🙏🏾❤️

This is a really good video, thank you for doing this. I think your stance on bagging has been pretty clear from your videos, so I assume people got the wrong idea from your shorts. I was anti-bagging at the start too, but after actually trying it out as you suggested, I've realized that it's so essential for making comebacks, or just securing an early lead. I'm still not sure how effective this nerf will turn out to be, but it's a good change nonetheless. Looking forward to the future of this game!

Your commentary gives a lot of life to the gameplay. It's clear that you enjoy this game way too much, just like the rest of us. On that note, a suggestion for a "playing with max (stat)" video: Traction. Baby Peach/Baby Daisy with Tanuki Kart, Monster Tyres and either Flower or Cloud Glider is honesty kind of great on tracks like Neo Bowser City and GBA Ice Land. You could even swap in GLA Tyres for the best combined Handling/Traction spread in the game.

I like how the tone of his voice never changed and he finished with *sigh* got heated there 😂😂😂 love the content

CONGRATULATIONS ON 200k!!

I think a chart showing every track, and where it falls on the bagging/frontrunning spectrum would be super cool

This dude doesn't miss, every video is so good

Shortcat, You should try this combo: Morton on the Varmint Bike with Roller Wheels and Cloud Parachute. It's surprisingly good and pretty fun to play with.

is also for nerfing the search of shock when you´re playing wars

fuxking banger as usual, your commentary is always so fun i dont get bored

I have never played a single mario or nintendo game in my life but i love these videos. Keep up the bagging👍👍

Congrats on 200k man!

So couple questions here on bagging I feel like the video didn't cover. Not sure if you felt it was worth it or not or if it's just too technically complicated but here goes: 1) What happens if you get hit in font of an item box you didn't slow down for. Do you still get hit with the nerf? What about if you get nailed on top of the item boxes and grab 2 while in the middle of a recovery? 2) Does bagging still work as it used to if you hit a different or 2 different item boxes after you slow down and speed burst through the item set? Do the odds get better if you aim for different boxes after you have slowed down or reversed if you hit different boxes? Or it is just the same odds all around? 3) Do these new nerfs only work for lower place values? Or could you abuse this new system in first place to potentially bag to avoid a coin?

is there any reason you dont stream? your abillity to talk so fluently and play really well at the same time would make you a pretty entertaining streamer imo (btw congrats on 200k)

Congrats on 200 k! 🎉

Congrats on 200k!

Big 200k congrats man

200,000 subscribers that is a lot of people congratulations short cat 🎉😊

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Congrats on 200k subs👍

honestly i love front running its just so much more fun to me

2:05 "funky kong has a boomerang" 😄 "f**king kong has a boomerang" 💀

I still wished that R.O.B. made it to Wave 6, I loved using it on DS

Congrats on 200k :)

Congrats on 200k man

These videos have become an unexpected source of comfort for me

Thank you shortcat for explaining bagging on DKM, i find a lot of casual players who only get better through worldwide matchmaking instead of looking at lounge or clan wars think that bagging has zero skill at all, when that's very obviously not the case

From my own testings and findings: If you stop before the first item set on most bagging tracks and let the distance to players grow for 5-8sec. try to grab two different item boxes and don't back into them! Hover around 12-9th place chaining your items till the middle of lap two on most bagging tracks (so far for me bagging has worked out best on mario circuit 3, royal raceway, yohsi valley and sky garden I uploaded a short vid on my channel earlier I just stitched raw clips together and got amazing luck to say the least!) (my avarage lobby vr is usually anywhere from 8-11k) Edit: CONGRATULATIONS FOR 200K! Amazing to see you smash these milestones man! Just keep em videos coming! 😁

GG ON 200K SUBS

Shortcat is biased towards bagging because he is Canadian and they drink milk out of bags

The nerf to baggin is more noticeable when you start reversing immediately at the start of a race until you hit item boxes. I used to do that when playing with family, so I noticed the change right away with the update. And I never did this for bagging itself, I actually never knew or thought about it being a thing. I just did it for an extra challenge when playing locally with friends or family since we always played with CPU difficulty on Easy or Normal.

GG ON 200K!

Congrats on 200k shortcat

Congrats on 201k Subs!! 👏 👏

Hi ShortCat ! I love your videos and I have a stupid question to ask you : Is Cat Cruiser the new meta ? Since it has the exact same stats as Teddybuggy except that Cat Cruiser has more invicibility ? Also sorry if I'm English isn't very good, it's not my mothertongue ! Keep up the great content !!

Great video as always!

I been watching your channel since wave 5 and I decided to use my siblings switch to play online and I got to 2130 vr in a few days!

The reason why bagging is a skills, you still have to take good lines, on top of knowing when, how, and where to use your items for each stage and situations you get put in.

Congrats for the 200k shortcat

Hi shortcat! Did you know that you are my favorite youtube right now! I love watching your videos every night :) One thing I feel like you never really explained is how you're so good at motion glidering! You always have it on online so you don't have to pause and switch during matches but how do you do this, are your hands just very still!? or, you did say that you use a n64 controller and I assume that may not have motion controls, so then are you using the d-pad and a claw grip? Thanks for the video! -Nikita

Best combo (IMO at 5000) is peachette - mr Scooty, roller, paper glider

CONGRATS ON 200K WOOOOHOOO🎉🎉🎉

Video Idea? Maybe now that every single track is out you could make a tier list ranking every track.

7:52 Peachette is adorable so I can see her becoming a fan favorite plus her being the most viable character based on her stats. Also Congrats on 200K!

Just got one of your "Can I win after waiting X seconds" videos recommended. Might need to retry that challenge now that bagging has been nerfed

Likely the patch just takes into account how long you've been accelerating before you touched the item block, just don't accelerate at all at the start of the map and then speed into a block instead of waiting for it to spawn at the block. ... Just tested it and it works.

thank you so much i watched this video before i did my exam day, got graded A+ in geometry and maths thank you so much❤

There is a bullet extention on DK mountain on the mountain shortcut with the ramp

The boomerang probably got destroyed before it returned preventing you from using it again (it has happend to me and ive seen it happen to others where a person blocked a boomerang with a boomerang of their own that still had throws left and they destroyed each other)

Even if the bagging is nerfed you just have to plan your bagging location better to avoid running into the trigger for the worst item pull. So all this update solves is those problem tracks where everyone is competing for last place right as the race starts which is an awful experience.

Do you have a video where you list the best tracks to bag and frontrun? Tysm for your content i have been enjoying it and subscribed recently!

You know that Funky Kong has a blue peach parasol while Pauline doesn’t have a red one.

Best Bagging Tracks (my opinion) 1. Cheese Land 2. Dry Dry Desert 3. Mario Circuit 3 4. Riverside Park 5. GBA Mario Circuit 6. Yoshi's Circuit 7. Snow Land 8. Sunset Wilds 9. Kalmari Desert 10. Mario Kart Stadium

i like this change tbh. im a frontrunner at heart and hate the idea of bagging (it is a race after all). old bagging just felt lame, im trying my hardest, using ideal racing lines, etc., and someone can beat me because they camped the first item spawn for 30 seconds to get a bullet and a shock? doesnt feel right. now, bagging feels less like cheese and more like a valid strategy. instead of just rolling for OP items, you stick to the back of the pack as sort of a gamble that you'll be able to hit the right shortcuts with the items you get to make a comeback, while dodging items along the way.

If you play SSBU I think content like this would be awesome! A mix of commentary while playing people and shorts with tips and tricks

Yooooo is that yellowbrik at 1:43😂😂 unsuspected collab

I think ideally the game would be designed such that bagging isn't viable. There shouldn't be "bagging" tracks and "frontrunning" tracks. The incentive should always be to get in the lead.

man u just want to tell you that ur videos make my day and I live ur content, ty very much for all the content🫶🏼

What happens if you reverse into a box in 1st place will you get a mushroom banana or green shell??

From the wave six patch notes: "Made it so that you can’t acquire strong items when taking an Item Box by stopping or driving in reverse, or taking an Item Box that is in same location multiple times during a race" So basically, you CAN still chain your items, you just have have to grab your items, and do a full 360 loop through the item sets (without stopping), rather than reversing, and you then you have to grab another box you haven't touched yet to chain. This is harder than it was before, and it's not practical in most situations, but it is possible, i tested it out and it worked

Good, this game is fun but there's just too many try hards that forget this is a kid's game

Congrats to 200000 subs!

In the previous video you said you had an idea to nerf bagging in a more healty way than nintendo did. What was it?