Nintendo's 20-Year Plan 

I'd personally almost say the switch is MORE healthy than the DS was, since the DS(as far as i know) was cheaper than the Switch to buy multiples of for families, and the Switch has less casual games than the DS did imo.

Yeah that's what I've been saying, Switch sold 300 millions more software and that's without pack-in titles. People actually buying games on it, and most of the time they're actually proper games and now just 2 dollar shovelware your parents saw and thought it's gonna be just like Wii Sport

@@TakisEnjoyer It also sold about 40 million more consoles? It sold 1.2 billion units of software which, in terms of "average games sold per console sold", is about 9 games a console. Equal to the Wii's proportional game sales, actually. Impressive but plausible would have been an average of 12 (1.68 billion)-15 (2.1 billion).

The switch imo didn't reach the pop culture heights of the wii, it didn't have as many families playing it together. But it's a quieter, more long term success

While I do not expect the switch 2 to be the next wii u, there will certainly be a drop off of 10s of millions of sales over its life compared to switch. This might seem fine to casual consumers, but share holders will of course once again put the fire to the feet of Nintendo as they will be expecting repeated success

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Said people buy 500 dollar plastic boxes and spend more time online arguing than playing said box. There's a recurring joke on Twitter whenever someone jokingly says "PS5 has no games" and said people react negatively. Specs mean nothing if there's no games that turns people's heads.

hopefully the new switch next year will be the last one as console technology has plateaued.

@@JeskidoYT it’s a fair question to ask. Given the switch is technically a handheld I think that’s valid for why the tech isn’t as powerful. But before that, they were always a generation behind in terms of tech

​@@MustacheDLuffy"Always"? No.

It was hubris on Nintendo's part. You don't just get to announce we're past horse power and for it to be that way. Nintendo alienated itself, the industry went the other way. We're at that point now though of diminishing returns, where you don't need the best or latest hardware to have your games look good and the cost of game development is becoming a liability. The Switch can also still run (inferior) ports of modern games. Wii simply couldn't run the game engines. It lacked all of the big AAA games from other developers, which is why it wasn't an option for serious gamers. This tarnished Nintendo's reputation, which came to bite them back with the Wii U, when they couldn't reproduce another short-lived gimmick hype. I understand though they were ready to try something else after the Gamecube.

@@errimusberrimus383 I remember seeing a presentation or press conference where someone from Sony explained that the PS2 was powerful enough to render the vfx in Jurassic Park in real time and me and my friends all though every PS2 game would that realistic 😂

​@@desamsterit wasn't Hubris , it was emulating the competition. They saw the ps2 being at number 1 despite being THE weakest of the 3 consoles and more expensive then the gamecube going ahead only cause it had a gimmick called DVD player and so they figured they would sell more if they focused on having a gimmick then competing on raw power alone and in that regard the Wii did alot better . However balancing the next consoles (3DS and wiiU) was catastrophic a problem that sony also had whit the ps4 and vita but where nintendo picked to abandon the Home console and focus on Handheld , sony picked to abandon the Handheld console instead which why we dont have a new psp iteration.

@@BigaloMax PS2 was the weakest but it wasn't a generation behind. One sidedly declaring the hardware race was over and power no longer mattered was hubris. Wii was a severely underpowered, handicapped system. It did so well because of a gimmick, but that wore off and then Nintendo was behind the curve. It is coming to fruition now 2 decades later. It was bound to happen sometime, just not when Nintendo declared it prematurely,

Not at that point. The wii u and wii lacked the huge games of that generation because of it. It makes sense now with even the tiny switch able to run a couple triple A games decent enough, but the wii couldn't.

Nintendo is always working on things well in advanced just like app quiz and I’m sure that the water had at least a say in the design of the successor to the Nintendo switch before his tragic passing

I don’t think gimmicks are a bad thing. We need to start embracing them rather than hating them.

@benmalsky9834 as long as we don't get another wii u fiasco, I'm all for it

I think there’ll be some kind of new “thing” for Switch 2, but I trust that they’ve come up with something good. One thing that Furukawa has actually said about it in investor meetings was implying that the #1 goal for it was basically to make sure it isn’t just the Switch U.

Yea I found it curious that he didnt mention just how many third-party companies were abandoning Nintendo in favor of the others. I still remember being so upset when Burnout 2 came out on the Gamecube, but Burnout 3 now under EA skipped the hardware entirely.

@@DIAC1987 and even when we got third-party games they were always the lesser version with missing features.

Gamecube had better third party support than N64. The mini discs weren't a problem storage wise.

@@desamster but not better than their competition. And the 1.5G discs were absolutely a detriment as content was cut from third party games like modes or audio and some games performed worse than their PS2 or XBox counterparts...

@@AmRealityInc Factor 5 made quality compression dev kits for Gamecube. Storage and cost were an issue on N64. They weren't on Gamecube and third party support improved significantly. Gamecube ports looked and performed better than on PS2. More than anything the issue was perceived target audience. Gamecube got stuff like Sonic, Viewtiful Joe, Super Monkey Ball, but less mature titles. The purple color, handle and colorful buttons on the controller cemented its image as kiddy when being cool and edgy was all the rage. Edit: and devs could just print on two discs if need be, but I only ever recall a Resident Evil game being 2 discs.

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@@paperluigi6132 pretendo exists yknow?

As the comment before me suggested some Wii U consoles seem prone to failure as their internal chips age. At least, I saw a Twitter thread about it. If you don't plug your Wii U in regularly, it might stop working.

I recently took it out of storage where it had been for a few years at least. I modded it with aroma a couple months ago and now it's all I play. Almost 300 games across 8 generations of consoles, the WiiU is truly a gem!

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I came back to the Wii after getting an upscaler. Where others said Goodbye, I am saying Hello.

Just got done playing mine last night forever retro

To this day or to yesterday? You played it today? Hahahaha

I recently bought a Wii, as the family Wii I used as a teenager is still being used at the family home. I've had tonnes of fun playing it recently with my partner and our kids, it's a shame it's remembered now as a gimmick. The Wii has some excellent games and with upscalers, you can get some (relatively) decent image quality.

@@pubsnacks4926I think the word gimmick has been misconstrued as a bad thing. The switch’s gimmick is that it can connect to a tv and have the controller detach.

the 3ds sold okay but yeah the Wii U suffred (even if i like this console) the 3ds was mostly because for your kid it was it or a cheap android tablet

The 3DS did sell very well after about 7 years on the market.

Nintendo seems to have finally got the happy medium with Switch of unique hardware, but with games that appeal to all markets including the core gamer. Wii leaned a little too heavily in the casuals and it left behind more traditional gamers who tend to buy a lot of games. Nintendo’s top selling games on Switch are some of their greatest games they’ve ever made from their most high profile franchises. It’s a much healthier place to be in because those type of games (ie. BotW, Mario Odyssey, New Horizons, etc.) build much stronger long term fans that will want to come back for more and explore other games of similar quality. Rather than something like Wii Fit which was a fad and then became forgotten.

3ds was launched at the wrong time too it only it would be delayed to second half of 2011

​@@LoomDoom they've also gotten to have their cake and eat it too. Ring Fit Adventure and Switch Sports are both some of the best selling games on the console, so the market is still THERE for games like that too.

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I personally hope it has glasses free 3D so we get 3DS games on it(I used the 3D effect constantly even though a lot seemed to not care). But knowing Nintendo they're probably going to do some type of VR or something. Which will be BAD news for them since it will indeed be considered "gimmicky" We'll see I guess, I hope it sells well

I think they will have to go the route of the 3DS. People do want Switch games with more power, but it also need a new and yet unnintrusive thing to frontline its marketing like the 3D was. What exactly that may be, I don't know. Perhaps yet another attempt at VR.

I think a beefier switch is definitely enough for people to buy, it’s worked for PlayStation and the central gimmick of the switch is already so good that it doesn’t really need reiterating on that much

I think there's good chance the next Switch's "gimmick" will be a return to the dual-screen format.

true, we gotta remember that simply a more powerful system wont be a strong enough pull on its own. routes like NES>SNES, n64>gamecube, wii>wiiU show that. one non-intrusive gimmick i still like were their patents for shoulder button scroll wheels. not a game changer but it has me thinking of convenient item management + wacky party game gimmicks possibilities

WiiU was a failed gimmick. Wii eventually became a fad, Nintendo will always experiment with their consoles but it’s not like everything is perfect

Doesn’t that include virtual console and pack ins? Think how many Wii plays were sold with a Wii remote, or Wii sports with the Wii, or resort with Wii motion plus. Think how many games were dirt cheap, all of the shovelware. Its attach rate was VERY low

​@@minecrafter3448It includes games with retail releases like Wii Sports. The vitual console, WiiWare and other digital only releases aren't included.

@@gregorymansour1763 regardless, it’s still a fairly low attach rate excluding those. The pack ins and overwhelming majority of games being sold at cheap prices boost the numbers to inaccurate degrees

My thought is that if they manage to implement social media in a much easier way than what Xbox and PlayStation offers right now they’d sell a bunch of consoles, and if they make a console more like an iPad with attachable controllers with a OS and UI that compares to the apps people use on their phones and perhaps the mobile games that have downloads in the hundreds or millions then they for sure would have problems keeping production up to demand.

Well, with the Nintendo Difference in full swing, I've been noticing the decline in 3rd party support. Street Fighter hasn't been on a Nintendo platform since Alpha 2 on SNES, and Madden NFL stopped getting Nintendo releases since Madden NFL 13 on Wii U. Nintendo also missed out on a bunch of cross-gen releases on the Wii U, like Destiny, DOA5 Last Round and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 of all games. I think Nintendo should design the platform in running the newest Destiny, Persona and Street Fighter games, as they all skipped Nintendo platforms recently. Just make a system to allow Nintendo fanbases to play way more than what the SNES and Switch got. If it happens and is done right, then imagine a future where Nintendo is on par with its rivals. Also, Nintendo will have to make their "experimental" controllers optional if they want far more games with traditional control schemes. Nintendo didn't make a 6-button arcade controller during the GameCube days, but if they do it with the next Nintendo platform, that would give more fighting game developers an incentive to make games for it.

Similar but much more expensive so their not as accessible as a Switch is. And the Switch 2 will likely be no different in that area. I'm sure their going to want to add some new element to it, but all signs point to the core idea being the same and that's how it should be. The foundation works but there is room to improve it.

@@NewGabeOrder - Actually, Super Street Fighter IV was released on 3DS as a launch title. And Street Fighter Alpha 3 got a GBA port too. Unless you meant home consoles, in which case you're right to my knowledge.

Nintendo's alternative console releases have bben a failure. DS - 3DS Wii - Wii U N64 - Gamecube Lets see if Switch 2 can replicate Switch's success. Hint: it wont.

That horizon of diminishing returns that Iwata spoke of is much more real today than it was back then. The difference in a top-tier Switch game versus a top-tier PS4 game is a smaller gap than Wii to PS3. And if we’re talking too-tier PS5 game, they’re now so expensive and require such a high level of graphical polish that developers aren’t able to put out as many games as they used to in the past. This is why Nintendo is consistently releasing games when Sony isn’t.

I don't fully understand the complaint about retro games. The subscription they've got now is pretty good value, and they're releasing remasters for games from the consoles that aren't supported on NSO.

@@amadeus.7436such a good value for games you already own. Sooooo goooood

@@amadeus.7436 NSO is terrific, there’s literally hundreds of games to play that makes it worth it.

​@@amadeus.7436 I love the value one gets out of the subscription as well, and the fact that all those games are available has had me trying some I'd never have tried otherwise. I think the main complaint from some is that you don't anymore have a way to straight up buy the games such that you could play them without a subscription, while on previous consoles you could. I feel as though both options should be available.

@@freuner-merris I get that, but then people would complain that they have to pay for 30 year old games. We know Nintendo wouldn't sell many of them to us for like 5$. People are getting the most bang for their buck this way. I'd instead like to see that as some sort of incentive to keep subscribing. If you've been subscribed for a certain amount of time you get to pick a certain number of games from console x and y to keep for forever. Realistically people are only going to want to keep a handful anyway if they stop subscribing.

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That's probably the mindset people had literally everytime a new generation of console happens

@@star-rock6466 maybe 🤷‍♂️ I mean if I could come up with some sort of genius new style of gameplay for the Switch’s successor to make use of I suppose I would be working for Nintendo…like I said, I really hope I’m wrong, but the Switch was pretty much a perfect console (apart from the stick drift 🙃) and I’m just not sure if they can repeat that kind of success.

No there's plenty more they can do to improve on the idea.

​@@ACameronUK "what could they possibly do next????" like the other guy above said, everybody asks this every single time and its always the same song and dance over and over again. dumb question

@@yn8789 personally, I’d like to see VR integrated into an affordable console 🤷‍♂️ I think it could be really good fun but I don’t know how financially feasible it is. Perhaps you’re right and it’s just my opinion, but I’m not excited about the idea of another Switch with higher resolution etc.

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Thanks! I wasn’t sure on the kanji and I was super tired reading it!

Doesn’t 720p count as hd?

@@minecrafter3448 It did. Idk if that's still the case, RU-vid certainly stopped recognizing it as HD a few years ago.

720p is HD, 1080p is Full HD. The 360 and PS3 were definitely HD consoles. Although I understand that some games went below 720p. And of course, there were tonnes of games that had framerate issues too, so it wasn't like every top game was a solid 720p at 30fps.

@@legoboy7107I hate it when people just change their minds on something like this.

@@benmalsky9834 That's true.

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Dedicated handhelds (dedicated as in making software specifically for them) are sadly a dead market now. Why develop two libraries of games when you can make one?

Wii was an experience too. It’s just that many games failed to take advantage of it. Wii sports resort and sin and punishment successor of the skies (star successor in the US) are examples of games that actually felt like the next big step for those types of games. They remain timeless since no modern equivalent matches up to them.

Lots of wii games did awesome things with the control setup. It's just that casual gamers didn't care because they didn't want to play serious video games and core games didn't care because they didn't want motion controls

@@abjames3098 Exactly

pretty much every game that sold well on the wii was either from a small set of specific sasual/party games or Mario. it still didn't sell many games outside of those mainstays

@@samcandles But what about Zelda or Kirby, those always sell well.

@@benmalsky9834 none of them reached 10 mil... just under 8 mil for Twilight Princess on Wii but if you combine the GameCube release it's over 10 mil i believe... Kirby has always been in the 3-5 mil range... Forgotten Land on Switch broke that streak though

@@samcandles yeah and it's crazy to think animal crossing city folk only did just under 5 mil on Wii now here we are a few gens later and have a 45 mil seller Animal Crossing game on Switch, although COVID did boost sales for that game... but Smash Bros even on Wii did 13ish million now it's a 30 mil seller on Switch, Super Mario Galaxy did 12.5 mil on Wii and Odyssey did 28 mil on Switch... the numbers have just skyrocketed on Switch for said IP, Zelda is another example...

I wouldn't call the 3DS a failure at ALL. It lived a very long life, had a lot of games and sold a lot of software. It's hard to compete with the DS in sales but it still ended up selling really well considering it was released into a dying market.

@@samcandles But, the launch was so bad, that they had to reduce the 3DS price from $250 to $170. And that price cut helped recover a lot of those lost sales.

@@AeyGee The launch doesn't really matter if it ended up doing well by the end. It could've done a lot better from the start sure but it wasn't a failure at the end of the day. Just look at how they treated the 3DS VS the wii u when the switch came out

​@AeyGee that's like saying the ps3 was a failure because it had a rocky launch, 2-3 years really

Wii U flopped because of poor marketing, blue ocean approach didn't work with the gamepad, lack of third party support, first party games mainly appealed to diehard Nintendo fans and casuals weren't interested in it. 3DS sold less due to the rise of mobile gaming, but the botched launch in 2011 didn't help either. GameCube sold less due to the PS2 curb stomping it and the mainstream audience dismissed it for being "kiddy". Not helping that the mini DVD discs could hold only up to 1.5 GB. Not something that third parties are willing to do as that affects a lot of things where the PS2 can hold much more. All the reasons above will likely not apply to the Switch successor and no one seems to want point out the reasons behind it either. Nintendo has maintained a healthy audience with the Switch, so all the Switch successor needs is a healthy selection of games ready just like in 2017.