There's a scene in the 2017 or 2018 production where Mischa says "just because I'm gangsta doesnt mean that I can't watch all 11 seasons of ru pauls drag race! Try to put me in a box and I will break out of that shit, huntys💅" It made my day so much better
I don’t think Noel was catfishing. I think he didn’t want Misca to find out because if he finds out that talia and him didn’t work out, that would have devasted him. I think he wanted to spare the heartbreak of finding out, basically thinking ignorance is bliss.
I think Talia was a catfish. At least come on, she really gives those vibes. Noel thought so and didn't want Mischa to be hurt. To have his last memory of love being heartbreak. Maybe Noel was even a victim of catfishing and knew it was better to spare him.
@@PrincessKenny34 YES! Talia gives such catfish vibes to me but its so much fluffier and nicer to imagine Mischa just calling her up and being "Yo you chill if I also go out with tragic dude over here"
I always forget how cannon this ship is. THERE WAS A DISTINCT CHOICE TO HAVE THEM DANCE AT THE BEGINNING. I always am like, “oh it’s probably not true” and then I go back and watch it. Let me tell you, as a director, THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS DAMN EARTH THAT *THAT* WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A SHIP.
I think what it is that really breaks my heart, is the fact that Talia canonically may not exist, so if they had survived the Cyclone accident, when Mischa eventually finds out, he and Noel could have ended up together in life. (All of this is of course ignoring the very possible fact that Noel was catfishing Mischa the whole time) It just hurts that the greatest possible love story was cut down in its youth, I weep just looking at it. Edit: I have since changed my opinion. I think I mostly just wanted them to get together somehow and went with the first fan theory that might have ultimately supported that…
@@tarosykes I dunno- that would feel so out of character for Noel. He's so sweet and loving, but wouldn't actually go out of his way to manipulate a dear friend into loving him.
it also. doesn’t really make sense. logistically. i think noel is more speaking to the Common Knowledge of catfishing online than he is to any of his specific actions.
i choose to believe that after noel told micsha he "never even got to kiss a guy" and the focus turned to the others, they kissed. i will not take any disagreement.
For anyone wondering what Mischa says after Noel says “or kissed a man” at 5:08 ish means “you’re welcome (specifically in answer to thanks for food or refreshments)” it’s also often misused in America as a “cheers” or toast, so could also be that.
Noel had a crush on Misha, I will die on this hill. Misha liked Noel back but also liked/loved Talia as well so ***conflict*** I will die on this hill as well. 3:11 Noel's little gasp oh my godd 3:13 **very confused Noel just holding Misha oh my God i ship it tbh** Noel: I want a man who will drive me to drink!! Misha: you called?? **holds up vodka** (I know this isn't what he meant by driving him to drink but STILL)
okay, I just need to point out this little detail bc I love it so much: during the birthday drinking scene, when mischa takes the drink back from noel the first time, he grabs it right above noel's hand instead of higher up or by the neck of the bottle. Even not as a ship, it's really sweet to me because it shows how comfortable mischa is with noel
whaaaaatttt yo just cause im all gangsta dont automatically make me homophobe, it's not cool to be homophobe in red game no more ever since Macklemore dropped Same Love, that shit was emotionally devastating yo
whaaaaatttt yo just cause im all gangsta dont automatically make me homophobe, it's not cool to be homophobe in red game no more ever since Macklemore dropped Same Love, that shit was emotionally devastating yo
I’ve read a lot of comments about the theory of Noel being Talia, and, Idk, I think the theory is really harmful and so out of character for Noel. He’s not a bad person, and wouldn’t want to harm his friend like that, knowing how so in love he is with Talia. I think it’s exactly as he said, that Mischa has a longing and it’s better to keep it that way, since they didn’t know if he was coming back to life to meet Talia, if Talia was a catfish, or if it would’ve ended badly (Let’s remember he knows how a tragedy sounds like). Also, he said he planned to vote for him after hearing about Talia (the fist bump scene). Let’s say Mischa came back to life and Noel did not. If Noel was the catfish, Mischa would’ve been ghosted (literally), so it still doesn’t make sense he would say something like that? Even Kholby (Noel’s actor) said he hated that theory because it was problematic and didn’t really make sense.
So technically in the opening number, Noel is leading Mischa when they’re dancing together. According to ballroom dancing standards, the lead’s left hand will lead the follower’s right hand. Idk if it was intentional (it looks like Mischa is trying to lead Noel when they’re spinning round and round) but there’s a little nugget I noticed
yeah i totally agree and also i hc that talia in the photos is just the former ukrainian prime minister with some random model’s face attached with photoshop or something
I dont think Noel catfished Misha. I think he didn’t want Misha to know what happened because if he did and didn’t get to have a second chance, he would be sad that it didn’t happen. But its just my opinion :)
As much as I love the ship, I do think that Mischa would want to stay loyal to Talia... At least until he accepts that he's not going to be reunited with her. Once they've been in the afterlife for a while I like to think he would eventually move on and indulge Noel in his fantasy of a hot on-again-off-again love affair
Headcanon: Their dancing in Fall Fair Suite is representative of their thoughts during the fall. Ocean is just still, thinking about all that happened and that she was right about being worried. Constance is spinning around on her own, like how she was the only one laughing, somehow enjoying the sensation. Ricky is alone, unable to move, possibly looking for where the other girl's scream is. (Since he would have been next to Penny.) Noel and Mischa were sitting together. I imagine they were reaching for one another, trying to find a sense of comfort in their last moments of life. Maybe even trying to protect one another, even though it did nothing. I picture the two of them holding on to one another until they hit the ground.
Ok so I’m pretty sure Natalia wasn’t real or was just a catfish and even if Mischa lived, they might not have even met irl. Which is why Noel didn’t want Mischa to see what would’ve happened if he’d met Natalia, because he didn’t want Mischa to be hurt.
@shopliftedtiara I don't know how much I can search through first and constantly have to check if it has something like "incorrect use of bullet wounds." 😭😭
While I don't think it's a cool theory, I'm not really on board. Noel seems to be more into the bad love in person kinda thing, so catfishing a softer relationship where he pretends to be a Ukrainian girl seems pretty out of character. I think the main reason for why he didn't want Mischa to find out about his future is Noel romanticizes the idea of a unknown longing, so finding out would go against that. I also think at this point he is kinda falling in love with him and got a bit jealous.
My personal theory is that Talia is a real person, but there wasn’t really genuine love behind her messages. Mischa probably didn’t shut up about her to the choir, and Noel - being the romantic he is - saw it in an instant and Mischa was too blinded to see that. If he were to tell this to him though, Mischa would probably get mad and hate him.
I need people to hear me out on the catfish theory because I have a scenario in my head where it could work if it was given a little while of a like forgiveness period or something like that like please hear me out 😭
It sounds crazy, but I feel like that was just the romantic in Noel telling Mischa what he of all people knows best. Sometimes it's better to live in a fantasy than to know the reality. Not cause he's faking it, but because he's been disappointed by his reality. Plus, I highly doubt that if Mischa and Talia speak *fluent* Ukrainian between one another that it could be Noel
he was just saying that he shouldn’t ruin it by (what he wanted mischa to think) thinking that he’d never get to see her again, it’s extremely out of character for noel to catfish as talia, plus he would have acted a bit weirder about the talia song than he did so
i doubt noel said that because he himself was catfishing, but rather bc he knew the chance that talia was a catfish and wanted to protect mischa from that reality
It sounds crazy, but I feel like that was just the romantic in Noel telling Mischa what he of all people knows best. Sometimes it's better to live in a fantasy than to know the reality. Not cause he's faking it, but because he's been disappointed by his reality. Plus, I highly doubt that if Mischa and Talia speak *fluent* Ukrainian between one another that it could be Noel
I just know the song nd not even a single part of the story 😭😭Who are this people Noel, Mischa and Natalie. Please someone explain, i wanna know tge story😭😭
Noel Gruber & Mischa Bachinski are members of the Uranium City Saskatchewan chamber choir who died in the Cyclone rollercoaster accident. Noel is the only gay man in a small rural high school while Mischa is an ukrainian "badboy". Natalia or Talia is Mischa's online fiancée who lives in Ukraine & is the reason Mischa was planning on moving back to Ukraine. Noel & Mischa are shipped due to dancing multiple times during the musical & them even making out during Noel's song "Noel's Lament"
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