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NISMO vs OEM RB26 Inlet Manifold Test - Motive Garage R32 GT-R Project Supercar Killer

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In this episode of Motive Garage, presented by Sparesbox, we test a Nismo collector on our R32 Skyline GT-R to see how much of what we have heard is myth, hype or facts. We've been waiting many years to do this test! Enjoy
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@ryanlowe3588 2 года назад

There isn’t any other channel that go this in-depth on car builds like motive

@michaelallen2501 2 года назад

Yes there is lol. Speed Academy, Faster Proms, High Performance Academy, Richard Holdener etc.

@jjsorenavki7005 2 года назад

Probly should of said for RB/Sr20/etc..

@brianscantlebury9656 2 года назад

@@michaelallen2501 Speedy Academy references Andrew and motive video quite a bit

@michaelallen2501 2 года назад

@@brianscantlebury9656 I don't if I'd say quite a bit. They have 1 RB powered project car lol.

@simeonteelucksingh4488 2 года назад

@@michaelallen2501 Speed Academy are noobs .

@captainbarge 2 года назад

Finally, was waiting for this for eternity!) Good to know it does something for the engine. Do you plan to test plazmaman itb one next?

@liammcgrath6184 2 года назад

Plazmaman or rb25 neo intake would be interesting to see the restrictive or torque and power differences ✌️🇦🇺 or even from a single 85mm throttle to the itb’s setup as well

@RaditzAus 2 года назад

That's the setup I'll be running single 85mm to the itbs. would love a comparison video on this

@situationunchanged9733 2 года назад

This has been done in depth by an Australian tuner. Probably circa 2006. I'd have to do my homework to find out who did it. Modified rb25 plenum do very well up to 500 but after that the plasma an is the daddy. From what I remember 😉

@StreetSyndicate 2 года назад

THANK YOU! This is amazing! I love how thoroughly you go into the data, that's so important when the internet is so full of people arguing over "my part is better because I said so" information. Love this channel!

@MotiveVideo 2 года назад

Thanks for the support 👍👍

@Gari.Hughes 2 года назад

I deffo read that “my part is better” bit in the voice of moog!

@StreetSyndicate 2 года назад

@@Gari.Hughes 100% hahaha

@petestryker1665 2 года назад

Have to test a GREDDY manifold next, assuming the hypertune aswell, would like to also see a plazmaman, a finally a eBay KO

@ToprankImporters 2 года назад

Greddy actually have two. The old two piece one, and a new one.

@nickstarz9316 2 года назад

Love to see a ebay 1 done . 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@VADER_225 2 года назад

Motive dvd tech vids are second to none.Thank you guys!

@phaze2988 2 года назад

Very good comparison Andy. Your channel deserves more recognition! The next inlet manifold options to test could be the Greddy and then a Plazamamann/Hypertune?

@alternatemedia4183 2 года назад

Finally someone tests inlet manifolds. For such a commonly modified part, next to no information on gains vs stock. Hence why I’m reluctant to go buy a Hypertune or Plaz because other than the weld porn and good looks and “bigger must be better”, no data exists to support one other than a sales pitch

@gtrulez 2 года назад

Love the video! I've had my GTR for 12 years, when i bought it it was basically stock engine and turbos with a haltech platinum pro. When the turbos needed replacement i went for 2x GT2860-5, first on the stock plenum but right after that we went for the Nismo because that was laying on the shelf and was for sale for cheap.. down low we could add around 15% more fuel after installing the Nismo it did feel more lively afterwards. It basically is a driveability upgrade. Now we are building a 2.8 with a gtx3584rs with hypertune v2 intake on a electronic single throttle body. Ported head,diffrent cams etc. Really excited what that will do! As for next plenums? I guess it would be cool to test the ITB version of the Hypertune vs stock or vs the nismo, see how they compare! and perhaps test the itb hypertune vs the single throttle body hypertune to see what diffrence throttle bodys make. Btw you can fit the Nismo plenum with the engine in the car (r33gtr) if you loosen the engine mounts and intake piping and tilt the block sideways as far as it will go. That way you don't have to remove the brake booster etc. You do need someone to help tilting it though.

@lutherblissett9070 2 года назад

I remember a manifold test between GReddy and Nismo in a magazine. GReddy won, so that would be my choice.

@simonhill6267 2 года назад

And the Greddy clones were dirt cheap and everywhere back in the day

@GTRJASON77 2 года назад

Greddy made less on a dyno with Sean Morris

@urbanndiscipline8336 2 года назад

@@GTRJASON77 How long ago was that done by Sean?

@GTRJASON77 2 года назад

@@urbanndiscipline8336 2005 or a little earlier maybe.

@urbanndiscipline8336 2 года назад

@@GTRJASON77 Didn't realise it was the best part of two decades ago - The GTR Tuning Scene has changed so much so since way back then.

@modifiedmafia 2 года назад

keen to see response difference vs plazmaman plenum vs plazmaman tophat of plenum on the stock runners vs stock plenum

@arrbee5202 2 года назад

this

@hughmaastricht 2 года назад

Greddy has to be next right ✅️ Awesome to see this on the RB, Be curious to see this compared on the SR and even branching out on to a 2JZ 😉👍

@CarlDSLR 2 года назад

These comparisons are the best part of this channel. Need more of this!

@drdesmo8489 2 года назад

Your hitting outta the park with this stuff. PS-Anyone looking for fantastic GTR 32 pictures, Motive Video’s are amazing !! For the price they definitely won’t last long.

@PHATT_TV 2 года назад

Been anticipating this one 😬, can’t wait to see results 🤔

@markblaikie1676 2 года назад

Would love to see a plazmaman VS hypertune back to back test, both with single dbw throttles

@Low760 2 года назад

I think he's going dbw next?

@gileshamilton4462 2 года назад

Never get tired of that wastegate clatter lovely build and a good result. No point havin loads of grunt if its a pig at slow speeds drivability is everything ....

@notfordrivers 2 года назад

Been looking forward to this video and it was everything I'd hoped for, on dyno and on road. Thank you, this is RU-vid gold!

@douglaslorin739 2 года назад

Very well done Andrew. The Nismo plenum seems to be the perfect choice for those who want a capable street/circuit car, and it's also one I myself have been eyeing for a while. I would recommend giving Greddy's new RB26 plenum or the Plazmaman plenum the next choice.

@skylineandy 2 года назад

Interested in this new hks advanced heritage project their new manifold looks revolutionary if it does what they say it does but greddy hypertune etc deserve a shot too just to be fair

@iamnoob8925 2 года назад

Also the question is, when are the parts coming out. Since they only showed prototypes in January.

@Levent_Ergun 2 года назад

I keep hearing bigger capacity manifolds make a bigger difference on uneven firing engines and also the ones with small displacement. I would love to see if that is the case on GR Yaris or any other 1 liter engine, if that is possible.

@joostin123 2 года назад

Volume depends on your cylinder pressures. Too big a volume and you'll have slow response and too small you end up choking the flow

@misterlith 2 года назад

@@joostin123 Not in this case as the throttles are after the plenum

@WyattWill 2 года назад

I got the Nismo intake mainly for the looks when I had my engine rebuilt. Good to know it does more than just look good

@antonisp6629 2 года назад

Excellent video as always with all the science to back up the results. This chanel is sooooo underated.

@SSMaxey 2 года назад

I'd be VERY interested in all the tests, but selfishly ask for Hypertune with stock ITBs next as that's what's on my shelf to be installed!

@ValladolidArde 2 года назад

I reckon that Andy's smilesthematics proves this manifold is great

@rickclark6700 2 года назад

This channel is a wealth of factual knowledge. Definitely deserves more credit.

@MotiveVideo 2 года назад

Thanks mate 👍

@MrSkykaptain 2 года назад

Greddy intake please.

@benjolley4120 2 года назад

Had my Nismo plenum / collector for about 2 years too! I bought the titanium studs from Stefan at IEE in NZ to fit it. You don't need to remove the brake or clutch boosters to do it then! Wish I knew that before I pulled the old plenum out and put it back. 😂 Hoping to get it swapped out next week before mapping. Great, informative video, as always! 👍

@TheMoghrabimahmoud 2 года назад

Best car content on the tube! Keep it up! We really appreciate what u do esp that u r paying for most of these products to compare them

@ngoclam1294 2 года назад

Would love to see all the top brands battle it out but throw a cheap knock off one on and see how it performs.....

@asho0oriasho0ori14 2 года назад

I like testing back to back , it's interesting

@sheldoncolombini6087 2 года назад

Andy! Always see you on Facebook, we're in plenty of groups together and love both the RU-vid content and handy stuff you post elsewhere. Just checking in to say you're an awesome dude, you're clearly intelligent and know what you're doing. PS looking better lately mate, diet is doing well for you. Hmu for gym, good food and skids if you're ever in WA. I've got some fun stuff to show you and plenty of mad engineering stuff to nerd out over. See you next video 👌

@simongoode7812 2 года назад

Brilliant... I've been really looking forward to these tests!! I'd like to see Plazaman, Hypertune, Swedish style (slot type, like on the Group B Audi Quatros) and single vs ITB's. I know it's all down to budget but loving this content 😎👍🏻

@slow26gtr 2 года назад

Definitely worth testing the Plazmaman ITB manifold to see if the modern style has a marked improvement over the OEM style

@ae86racer007 2 года назад

Really impressed with the research and back to back testing you are pouring into all the current projects. Great content

@GarageItYourself 2 года назад

A great video showing how parts like these can really change the driveability of an engine. Full throttle really isn't of much use for a road going car yet seeing the torque increase much lower down in the rev range is. Hence why your road test was a bit of a surprise compared to what the rolling road data gave you. People get so transfixed by power yet power is nothing more than torque multiplied by engine speed and it's the torque that makes an engine driveable or not.

@StavTech 2 года назад

Great vid, I love tests! And glad it worked kinda how I'd always presumed. It's crazy how much nicer to drive a good plenum design makes a car on the road and track, even if it don't look like it really on a dyno. Easy to make a big power inlet, but they often do the opposite of the above, but a good design that drives optimal is different, hence most serious works race engines don't have big blob inlets like most aftermarket tuner big power inlets.

@Matthew-ne2iu 2 года назад

Absolutely love the GTR part videos, but please Andrew fix your IC7 dash Mount it’s all over the place 😂😂

@FDI55 2 года назад

Plazmaman and Hypertune would be some other good products to back to back given their popularity and availability.

@tombrown5508 2 года назад

Man, this is great data. Thanks for being a real car show.

@jasondoulkeridis6202 2 года назад

Thanks man, appreciate this data. Definitely going to buy one.

@boris9331 2 года назад

Great work Andrew, well deserved kudos. ITBs vs Single throttle body welded onto stock manifold then gutting the ITB's out to keep the plenum volume/runner style etc etc the same.

@salaucco 2 года назад

Next Greddy intake manifold vs Nismo

@lockjawjak 2 года назад

Love your vids, these sort of compairsons are always interesting... even if I have a BPU 7MGTE and not a built RB26 ^_^ PS: Are we gonna see the RB block-breaking video soon, I have been looking forward to it after the 2JZ one

@jaredvanbergen7904 2 года назад

Would love to see the comparison from the Nismo item to say, a CPC unit. Great video, love the technicality you guys go into.

@Laminur 2 года назад

Looking forward to seeing the comparison to the rest of the intakes! Great series Andrew

@haymule 2 года назад

damn dude you are also looking much better in shape! keep up the great health build aswell💪

@JKearns98 2 года назад

I think the camshafts have an impact on this as well. If you have bigger camshafts it would take bigger advantage of the higher air capacity at higher rpm.

@jmegetkrunk 2 года назад

Oosh can't wait to see a plasman test and CPC !!!

@georgef1176 2 года назад

Andrew you look great my friend! I hope your healthy and living good!

@bradleypeak4852 2 года назад

I think a plazmaman or any other companies fabricated single throttle body style/conversion would be interesting to see. Do they make more power and torque or is it looks or just the ability to go fly by wire throttle for other benefits like torque management and throttle mapping. It would open up a lot of debate about the pro's and con's between them. Awesome presentation and research on the Nismo inlet plenum.

@tommylyeah 2 года назад

This is somethin' I've been wonderin' for a long while.

@s13Marino 2 года назад

The new hks one would be interesting since its so different then the usual, but also something thats cheap like one of the ebay ones.

@gflex187 2 года назад

Keen to see how the Plazmaman setup goes.

@jcr3481 2 года назад

Very informative clip! I’ve just bought a narpec x hypertune inlet would love to see how that compare or greddy inlet manifold against the almighty nismo …great video Andrew

@EE9Civic 2 года назад

Thanks for the great video, very useful, planning some upgrades to the airflow on RB26, better downpipe, smoother air filter inlets and smoother turbo inlet from the intake piping, I think I'll also add a Nismo plenum. Not after more power, just want to make the current turbo setup as good as it can possibly be. I'd like to see A CPC plenum compared to something on the dyno, and it would be cool to see the difference switching from a Nismo plenum to a similar sized single TB setup. Nismo VS Greddy would be good to see, essentially quite similar.

@css172 2 года назад

Love this kind of testing and review! briliiant informative video.

@charlie2king 2 года назад

Dude you lost heaps of weight Good Work buddy

@Storm958 2 года назад

A welded and billet intake like the Hypertune or Plazmaman manifolds would be a good comparison as a "next step up" after the Nismo item. Also, an ebay cheapie would be good to see just for comparisons sake (if you're brave enough to run it on your car).

@dsmspidey 2 года назад

Would love to see the newer style Greddy with ITBs next since I just installed one 😬 always love your vids, keep it up!

@blkcyborg92 2 года назад

Makes me feel so good hear that people take a half or full day to install that manifold but I did they all the time within a hour 😌 Finally a win!!!! 😂

@BOKtober 2 года назад

I had to replace three small coolant hoses that sit between the firewall and the far end of the inlet plenum on my own R32 GTR which required removing the inlet plenum, did not realise it would take me 10 hours to so lol. Next time I'm just converting to single throttle body, it would be way easier

@NismoSM514 2 года назад

Been waiting a long time to see this! Good woork! At over $100 USD per KW, that's a pricey one! Thanks for spending the money! I'm interested in seeing the change to single throttle body manifolds vs the factory style.

@NismoSM514 2 года назад

Staying with the multi throttle body style, the 1 vs 2 piece Greddy manifolds would be great to see.

@garethevans2240 2 года назад

Super love it thank you, thank you to all the people that make theses information packed videos for us to enjoy! Ps could you test the greddy manifold. There's also a China version of it dunno if you have one lying around haha

@wa.gtrsoul 2 года назад

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the the issue with the standard intake was the last two cylinders tend to run leaner, which meant that they got too much air compared to the front cylinders. The Nismo plenum with addition of internal bellbouths would allow more even flow doiwn the runners as they would collect it away from the plenum walls where air speed is more consisitent. It's benefits would be improved tuning due to even fuel air ratios across cylinders, which is where the extra 2% more power comes from. I wouldn't think the standard intake plenum as a restriction, as I'm sure intercoolers would be the greatest contributors to pressure drops. Overall very informative, but I would have liked some flow bench testing just to confirm the outcome of the results.

@jrbuch 2 года назад

Informative and interesting - well done!

@utkanyildiz5678 2 года назад

Ebay intake manifold vs plazmaman/hypertune intake manifold would be interesting to see the results.

@Noob1471 2 года назад

Personally running a Chinese billet manifold (mine hasn't split after years at 1.5bar like some) but would love to see the difference vs plazmaman / hypertune. Think a lot of the 25 boys would want to know difference with the "freddy" manifold vs the stock j pipe.

@sabu1297 2 года назад

Really interesting video, been wondering what differences there are between these two for a while.

@Panta83 2 года назад

As usual, it's an ultra interesting video. And the way you speak is perfectly understandable for french people haha

@weduhpeople8504 2 года назад

Im dying to get my hands on the Skunk 2 intake manifold they are currently developing to replace the plastic oem intake manifold on my 686 hp Honda Civic Type R. I currently have a Radium port injection kit on the stock intake manifold with four Injector Dynamics stainless ID1700’s controlled by a Motec M142. The Skunk 2 aluminum manifold will have velocity stacks to each runner and a fuel rail for port injection. I may replace the small stock dbw throttle body with a larger Spoon throttle body.

@madmike5144 2 года назад

Big thanks for sharing this info...Keep it coming

@dannyc3462 2 года назад

should test the 49mm individual throtle bodys that naprec sale its alot people in japan that clame big gains throughout the whole range of rpm combine the naprec 49mm throtlle body's with nismo intake...

@bradcox5974 2 года назад

Excellent video, thank you

@poochey1 2 года назад

Plazmaman, Greddy and RB25DET NEO Or repeat the testing showing logs of individual cylinder temps to see if cylinder 5 and/or 6 running rich still because its starved of air. Or repeat the testing to see if the Nismo makes more of a difference on the asthmatic (by comparison) stock twins turbo setup.

@robertcook819 2 года назад

Great video Andrew, did you happen to weigh the two intake manifolds? I realize that any difference is going to be negligible, but would be interesting to note.

@rsrlegacy 2 года назад

Amazing video as always, Would love to see a comparison with the Greddy original cast intake.

@mranderson911 2 года назад

greddy, plasman would be the ones I would try out

@gav240z 2 года назад

People get too focused on HP figures, but it's the way a car drives and responds also. Nismo won't sell snake oil, it's all about the small details when tuning a car also. Yes it costs, but if you can feel the difference it's worth it. IMHO. It's also a work of art compared to the stock 1.

@MotiveVideo 2 года назад

Will admit, surprised how much the drivability increased. The numbers Con from CRD had to put in proved it though

@ToprankImporters 2 года назад

Nice test Andrew. I've got mine on my Nismo, but I never did a back to back.

@GTRliffe 2 года назад

obviously test the popular plazmaman & hypertune ones, Also throttle body size is a big one, 3 vs 3.5 and 4 would love too see those

@Ty2052 2 года назад

Hypertune vs Plazmaman let's goooooo next!

@sircefiro 2 года назад

Nice work, pity you don't have a 25 in anything, the e war between stock, GReddy & now Plazmaman rages on haha, with a bit of a mixed bag of results

@shotamakarashvili3714 2 года назад

Thank you very much for very interesting information. Appreciate your time and effort...

@cod4madass 2 года назад

It would be interesting to do an A/B with the nismo and plazmaman.

@30debt55 2 года назад

Awesome stuff Andrew!! Best episode so far 👌 Greddy 💁‍♂️

@joshtong7332 2 года назад

I’d love to see a stock 25 manifold vs a Greddy/Freddy vs a plazmaman top hat

@mikejovi980 2 года назад

Found this really interesting, I'm running rb25de with factory in/ex manifolds 380rwkw on e85 and have seen alot of other setups with ffp and bigger turbos and some with cams all the same tuner, at the same boost we are all making the same peak power but even vs a 3.0l the factory manifolds honestly are perfect making more power and torque all the way through to peak power. Yes a couple did make more power with more boost with bigger turbos and (Chinese vs garret) but I'm also out of fuel so can't run the same boost.. Honestly wouldn't change the factory one for anything other than looks for me

@kemosabe8313 2 года назад

Awesome info! I'd like to see the older Greddy itb manifold. But like you said money.

@totokarjan4740 Год назад

Andrew you need to test the brand new Greddy polished V2 plenum and also the plazmaman plenum for std ITBS please

@iswinkels 2 года назад

The battle of the top shelf intakes will be interesting. Plazmaman V2 vs CPC.

@deciplesteve 2 года назад

I was hoping to fit a Plasmaman manifold with the upgraded butterflies from Nengun to my customer's R32, so my bias hopes that is in the pipeline, but I understand that is not a cheap pile of parts (his car was going to be PnP'd and get oversized valves at the same time).

@wolverine4742 2 года назад

Robbie War @ RIPS Racing in New Zealand makes a mean intake plenum for RB26

@JFWGarage 2 года назад

Great video heaps of information and facts 🤘🏻

@slvrbakslpz4690 2 года назад

Test Hypertune and Plazamann ITB plenums next. Maybe an ITB vs single test too. I always read ITBs are better for daily and response but seeing a real test would be nice

@kanenstuff 2 года назад

Hypertune or Plazmaman would be good to see maybe Nota comparison but just individual test compared to stock or the Nizmo.

@Flashflash1989 2 года назад

would love to see the whole itb vs single throttle body with the plazmaman and hypertune throw in the ebay spec one too

@terrybagatella3898 2 года назад

Excellent video. Good science is great.!! Lots of good info. 👍

@joeybratten 2 года назад

The intake manifold isn’t as simple as you’re making it out. Runner length is tuned for application, a different exhaust manifold may make the whole engine flow differently, that maybe why you didn’t achieve the same results as nismo. Everything has a cumulative effect.

@MotiveVideo 2 года назад

We know. We said that. But we cant test is on 100 different engine combos. if it works on one, it pretty much works on all. The difference is by how much

@joeybratten 2 года назад

@@MotiveVideo no you said the inlet manifold doesn’t know what engine it’s attached to, what turbos are on it etc, dismissing important factors, it’s no as black and white as you’re making out. Some sets ups will have different gains in different areas due to different flow dynamics and harmonics. Not as simple as you’re making out.