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It's funny for someone my age (over 60) to hear someone complain that the steering wheel ONLY goes up and down but not in and out. I remember the days when the steering wheel was fixed, the only movements it had was to turn the vehicle right or left. lol… Still a nice review. :)
Yes my 2019 model doesn't have a telescopic steering wheel. Wish I waited for that but it's been a great car. Nissan service is fast and affordable too.
Yes that seems to be a serious drawback but in practice people use them as city cars and 99% of charge is from house plug overnight and degradation in later models is not worse than other concurrents
Another fake expert that fails to understand the different lithium battery solutions. If you use the leaf within its design parameters it is a very capable EV.
@@badchefi I totally agree with you. I have a 4 1/2 year-old 24kWh Nissan Leaf and it's battery indicator still shows 12 bars and I consistently am able to drive as much as 150km per charge. The key is NOT to fully charge it unless required.
One small error in the video, the chademo port on the 62kwh version charges at 100kw not 50kw, which will make fast charging considerably faster (if you can find a 100kw charger)
Nissan was among the first volume car manufacturers to mass market an affordable 100% electric vehicle- the Nissan Leaf.Renault followed also in this field with Renault Twizy e.v., Renault Zoe ev, Renault Fluence e.v. ,Renault Kangoo ev. Tesla is also a pioneer on premium electric vehicles. I remember that Carlos Ghosn the former chairman of the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance who now has some legal problems stated that "Toyota is leader on hybrid technology ,we (Renault-Nissan) wanna take the leadership on affordable electric vehicles and we don't want anybody to take it from us ! " Also the VW group after the emission scandal in the usa announced it will bring ev to different markets . So the trend towards pure electric vehicles is obvious . And that's a good thing! I hope the charging stations,globally, will develop faster in the future . Thomas I like the way you are reviewing different cars from different brands ! Keep the good work in the future .
Redesigning the steering system is VERY expensive. New steering mechanism requires all new crash testing for all markets (EU, Japan, USA, etc.) where car is sold.
Just picked up a Leaf e+ 3.Zero nearly-new (13 months old, 29,000 miles) for £25,000 from Nissan. That's the one with the 160KW motor and 62KWh battery, far cheaper than any competitor with comparable range or power.
You BIGGEST concern is the lack of full adjustment possibility of the steering wheel?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Was this whole video a paid advertisement of NISSAN? I love the LEAF, it so comfortable to drive BUT this car needs to be improved seriously. Competition (e.g. KIA e-Niro) provide a much more better value for the same price tag. Pros: - Well-sized car with a very well-sized boot, supercomfortable for 5 people (e.g.: 2 adult and 3 1-16 years old kids) - Interior is VERY practical despite its older look - Infotainment is also very practical (its one of the best infotainment systems I have ever used - logical setup), there some things that can be improved but it still very usable - Seats are extremely comfortable even during long ranges - Very pleasant to drive, the noise isolation on highway is not perfect but better than other models in the same price range - Manageable through an app (e.g. you can turn pre-heating/pre-cooling on , etc.) Cons: - LACK of any kind of battery cooling management system STILL (airflow is not a management system , just to be clear - management means its manages , tracks, monitors, takes actions if needed). This has been a problem since Nissan released the first LEAF and Nissan still has NOT addressed the most important issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why is this a problem? If you are using the car in a city and charge it at home during the night (10A-20A on one phase) then it is not. BUT if you try to use your LEAF as a normal car (in 2021 is highly expected the electric cars can used in the city or travel long and longer distances) then you have a PROBLEM. DC charging heats up the battery, especially if you charge it from eg.: from 20% to 80% - IT NEEDS COOLING, otherwise your battery suffers degradation (this btw affect all EVS even with active colling but the rate is different) Long story short: Nissan has been neglecting to fix the lack of battery cooling management system. I WOULD NOT BUY A CAR in 2021 that has no active cooling for the battery - Related to the previous point: You can travel distance up to MAX. 400-500km before your battery fries from DC charge - Type2 charging can ONLY support 7,2 Kw/h,/while in 2012, 11 or 22kw/h is something that other models have - Still comes with ChaDemo and not CCS, which is limiting the DC charging capabilities (do not forget that because lack of the battery system cooling probably the ChaDemo (DC charging) would be anyway limited and not to used up to its full potential , CCS can reach easily today 100kw/h or more)- It should have CCS as this is the standard now in the EU. - Anti-collision system is crap. It works perfectly in the Quashquai but it is unreliable in this car - The app is too simplistic, I would expect it to provide all the information the car is gathering by default and much more. (status of the battery, % of time spent with about AC charging and/or DC charging....) - Lack of sentry mode, I know that only Teslas have this BUT in a car with 360 degree view why cannot this be implemented or provided as option - The price is high, the car is expensive. This construction is OLD, not effective. If you want to spent your money well, buy a KIA e-NIro which costs roughly the same price as this car and has a more efficient engine system + ACTIVE BATTERY COOLING MANGEMENT SYSTEM...and has a higher range with a similarly sized battery I would only recommend EV to those that have the possibility of charging the car from a wall socket or have the possibility to install their wall charger at home. The charging has become generally payable (no more free charging) and prices have come close to the price of the fuel in comparison (still not reached parity) so the savings you obtain by buying an EV have reduced significantly. EVs needs a serious price reduction. Last note: Big car companies have been fooling us for decades and intentionally killed all attempts to switch from a combustion car to an EV. If you seriously consider to buy an EV, please support a real alternative not related in any way to the bug car companies, and that is TESLA for me currently (I do not have the confidence in Chinese manufacturers currently , maybe this will change if they prove that their products have the quality I expect).
Chinese EV manufacturers rely on revenues from combustion engine cars, there are no independents. In the West it is similar, except maybe Tesla, but Tesla is still not profitable. Small independents are failing miserably. Simply put, building an EV requires significant investments, and selling an EV doesn't give relevant profits. Big car companies can do it now when they get money selling ICE cars, but if the whole world converts to EV... .
Not having the Steering adjustable forward and back means you have to find the correct distance from the wheel by moving the seat. The biggest problem is drivers having the arms bent too much as they sit too close and this makes it harder for the driver to react and get possible injury from airbags being too close.
You missed to talk about charging. There is not plenty of Chademo fast chargers in Europe. And it's very rare that they can supply more than 50 kW. This is much bigger disadvantage than the steering wheel in my opinion.
They are coming in but you're right. Thankfully there's a 25p/kWh CHAdeMO charger a 10 minute walk from work for me, plus topping up for free at PodPoints in Sainsbury's and Tesco is great. Yeah, only 7kw but... Free!
This car has bad BMS, with no battery cooling. Because of this the car fast charge very slow. Not suitable for long trips with need for several fast charges.
As always an excellent honest, and, a thorough review from Thomas so don’t be blue. What has happened to Datsun...Sorry there, giving my age away, as much as I would love to be able to afford an electric vehicle, this car would definitely not be on my wish list! Do you like my photo taken back in 1969, on my beautiful Honda CB250?
So what the price list says is: "CHAdeMO Type 50 kW (compatible with 100 kW charging station) - what I take from that is that you can connect it to a more powerful chademo station but it wont load faster
Have seen reports that Nissan has finally introduced telescopic steering column but it may be market specific. Big drawback with tall drivers without. Used to have an older Leaf which the interior still looks so familiar apart from the dash area. Love you calling out the animal skin in every video.
Get an optically stabilized camera for the window mounting please!!! the current one makes the car feel way way worse than it actually is. Just look at the bentayga video and see how bad it looks.
For the overwhelming majority of his reviews there doesn't seem to be any kind of problem at all with the camera. If this car and the Benteyga are the only ones that have issues, it's more likely to be due to the car than the camera.
For a DD those wheels are too big, you gotta have chunkier sidewall to make it more cushy. Overall I've driven the 2019 Leaf for a couple of days and it's a great little car for city driving.
The problem with this “new” LEAF is the 50kw Chademo, that’s old tech too slow and this will be the last new car with that connection in EU, won’t be great for residual value and is too slow for long journeys (I had a gen 2 LEAF for 3yrs).
The faster the charging the shorter the battery life. Either be patient with slower charging or find your batteries fail just after the warranty expires. Neither the EU nor manufacturers are bothered whether your batteries need changing just after the warranty expires because they won't be paying for them.
That’s correct if there’s no proper thermal battery management, thus the solution is add active thermal management like proper fast charging EV’s. Plus there are no new charges being installed with Chademo, it’s live VHS and Betamax and in Europe CCS has won.
We're calling 37.000+ EUR car (that's how much e+ trim costs) reasonable, when it's almost the price of highest trim of X-Trail. And Leaf doesn't even try hard enough to be perceived as a good quality car.
Nissan is the value ev buyers choice. Great utility with a huge boot. Nothing spectacular performance wise, but good enough in almost every category. With Xpeng and Lexus both entering the market with Chademo, it may be in the upswing.
@@carroux4050 it's still the cheapest 200+ mile EV in the US, at 25K USD (for a brief while it was 22K with a Nissan rebate), if you don't road trip a lot, it's still a great value.
They did until they reduced the price of the higher power models by 5K at the start of April 2021 to be below the plug in grant limit. There was about 7 K difference, now it's about 2K. The steering wheel does move in and out too and the car comes with an EVSE and Type 2 cable at no extra cost.
Great review as usual. How is it that Tesla can make beautiful electric cars but GM, Nissan, and Toyota cannot? Electric cars don't have to look goofy.
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@@norbertmachaj6127 By poor I mean people who can’t afford £35K for a car. The government take money from the poor via road tax & 85% fuel duty - and hand it to virtue-signalling rich people who can afford a £35K EV (in addition to the proper petrol car they have for long journeys & emergencies).
I like the design because Nissan does not try to reinvent (make it ugly) the design because of electric propulsion. Thomas, why is leather not sustainable, are you a vegan? Is synthetic fabric better XD Dashboard seem nicely done (still leaving analog gauge). The stick for transmission is nonsense. But I cannot criticise because I no not like driving automatics. Physical buttons are a plus in these days :D I believe electric cars are not jet enjoyable as IC cars (maybe they will never be :( ). Yes they accelerate fast, but you need to look at the whole package. The car is heavy so handling is worse and longer drives with poor suspension and short battery distance will be annoying. I can see electric cars for city driving but for anything else there is still much improvement to be made to catch up.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nP_CvLlaFlI.html In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse? The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette. Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@@autogefuehl Thank you for explanation. Unfortunately cruelty with resources and living creatures will not be fixed by not using animal products. This has to be addressed on mentality level of people. Governments around the world should make laws that help people better know the source of any product or food... Leather if humanely harvested and used appropriately can outlast many things. Although in a car they use these cheap colored leather for seats which is destroyed in a couple of years and one needs to pay premium for this, what a joke. This all comes to the age of consumerism we live in :/ I have used leather for DIY craftsmanship (e.g. making a case for phone, laptop, backpack...). I have bought a leather from a known source so I know that animals were treated as humanely as possible for industrial process. After more than 10 years of abuse the leather still holds strong. So this shows that there must be something fishy with this "premium" and "mainstream" leather. But do not try to completely extinct leather because some multinational want to make money. For example you can watch what is going on with people that live near nonhumanely managed plant agriculture fields (let it be for animal of human feed). They do not care about health of plants or people. They just want to grow as much as possible. They use extremely potent and dangerous herbicides, pesticides and other poisons. A lot of times at improper times so all the poisons go to waste/in ground water that people drink! For tropical plants like avocado and pineapple that vegans like to eat it is even worse as they are more difficult to produce so more chemicals are used. And these exotic fruits you get from supermarket are exclusively grown in poor countries on fields that are owned by multinationals and there are little laws in place to protect local people. In some places whole villages are striped of water because of production of such "luxury" fruits. In exchange they receive waste water that is filled with all nasty chemicals. So to conclude, animal products are not the issue, the same is happening with plants products. The multinationals and humanity need to change the mentality otherwise cruelty will happen independent of what is being produced.
We cannot fix everything at once, but it is always good to start somewhere and try to avoid unnecessary harm. Skipping animal products is the easiest way to have the biggest positive impact with the least effort. www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/veganism-environmental-impact-planet-reduced-plant-based-diet-humans-study-a8378631.html
Which transmission tunnel do you mean? I don't see any, especially as nearly all ICE-powered fwd cars don't have one as well, the comparison seems quite a bit odd.
That's probably to increase car's stiffness. There is no purpose to hold any moving parts or exhaust pipes, but sometimes cars have that intrusion for body reinforcement.
Its not actually a transmission tunnel (no transmission under there). Its actually part of the battery and also contains an access panel on the top. Under the panel is a switch to turn off the traction battery.
@@autogefuehl I appreciate when you highlight if a car has Vegan inside or not. Need to keep the education up for the buyers. Even if you get some pushback in the comments. Thanks
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@@Pipsicle330The EU as a legal institution would have been nothing like it is today without the UK (1980s-2000s) You're mind controlled by your own dogmatic _"both sides"_ capital media. lmao. You herald con artist/fascists who dehumanise refugees and EU immigration rather than holding your domestic political austerity to scrutiny.
The German arrogance is very apparent in this review - he fails to understand the aerodynamics of the leaf as he doesn’t know why it has a boxy shape in the back. Further he doesn’t even know that the e+ can charge at 100kWh and not the 50kWh the “reviewer” implies. More “Autogefuehl” would help...
