A superb second hand buy at today’s prices - very different from the price points and value on offer when this review was created. Proven reliability, decent dealer network and now an awful lot of car for the money.
I have just come to the same conclusion after a comparative test drive in the MG 4 Trophy. MG has a more sporty drive but is a bit fidgety on rougher roads. Leaf is a more comfortable and relaxing drive. As you say the Leaf LR is an awful lot of car for the money. The new wheels of the facelift Leaf are great - very Sierra Cosworth! (You only get plastic wheel trims on the MG). The ability to instantly drop into 'B' breaking mode on the gear selector of the Leaf beats making sure your screen is on the right page then reaching over to select a small icon from the other 4 driving modes of the MG. (One of the configurable buttons can be programmed for this function but you then have to cycle through all 5 drive modes to get back to mode 1 - the equivalent to 'D' on the Leaf). Other comments - MG 4 interior very dark (black headlining) and very little view through the rear mirror. The MG has a 'trigger' accelerator which makes for rapid power delivery - but the Leaf delivers its power in a more refined way. (Because of this and the choppy ride the MG made me a bit queezy over undulating bumps as feedback to my right foot seemed to gave a pulsating power effect. Due to all the positive videos about the MG 4 I expected to love it - as it is I am now back on the solid, reliable Leaf LR for a 2 year old, second hand buy.
@philbattye - What you have mentioned is a great synopsis 👏 What I didn’t mention in my comment (but is highly relevant to your points) is that I sold my Mk1 Leaf and bought a brand new MG4 as well! Due to issues you have mentioned (and many more with the MG4) I stepped out of it and went back to a Nissan Leaf. The Leaf just simply works and most people could be forgiven for expecting any modern EV to work. But they don’t all work the same or as well as one another. And that’s before you get to their Apps and additional functionality. For wider context, I also have a Tesla, which operates superbly too - however should be no surprise, given both manufacturers have been in the EV market since pretty much the beginning. I wish more people knew and understood the significance of this, especially given the complexity of electric vehicles. Thanks for your comment, I hope people can thoroughly experience and test their chosen EVs to be able to make to make purchase decisions that they will remain happy with - we are in a joint revolution of technology and vehicles as we move to zero emissions. And just in case anyone is wondering - ChaDeMo may be an outgoing standard and part of the fabric of the Leaf. But only a relevant future consideration if you need to rapid charge regularly - and otherwise the Leaf simply still nails it every other area (especially true of the higher specification Tekna models). The biggest thing, is it actually works as a car and an EV - sadly the same cannot be said for all EVs!
And, just to add, there now appears to be a working adaptor for Chademo to CCS-2 (from China of course). Expensive at the moment ~£1,500 but will probably come down. This potentially allows access to all chargers in the UK - Chademo, CCS and, eventually? Tesla!
It's very much a Japanese corporate issue, not just in cars but in just about every industry and is why the likes of Nikon in the camera field and JR in the RC field are struggling or have folded.
@Barry Goldwater Not sure if you ask about Leaf or Tesla. Leaf was purchased 3.5 years ago so prices changed since then - but it was 1 year old ex-demo car and costed 12.5k. Model 3 costed 39k, still waiting for the delivery though
Such a shame we had a leaf but needed more range then the tesla came out and its light years ahead Under 40k and 0-60 in 5.5 sec and the sat nav and charging infrastructure just work
Spot on comments. We have a 40kWh leaf. We call the sat nav "ShiteNav" it's that bad. Glynn Hopkin my local dealer refused to acknowledge any battery management issues. Never ever buying a Nissan again. Model 3 ordered, say no more. P.S Crack on with Patreon, you have been doing this too long now to not give it a good go. J
Lowcarb Ev - Nissan doesn’t care what they sell. Here in the US, Nissan is failing fast, and the financial “analysts” are scratching their heads trying to figure out why. Here’s why: their cars are unreliable garbage and nobody wants to buy them. You only buy a Nissan once, unless you like making the same mistake twice. Scotty Kilmer looooves to trash (“rubbish” to you non-Yanks) their vehicles, especially that pile-of-shite CVT which Nissan refuses to fix.
After owning a Leaf 24kw, 30kw and 40kwh versions we have now moved onto a Kia E-Niro. Since 2013 I have had a very positive experiences with all our Nissans, but other manufacturers have moved ahead now so we have moved too.
Just bought a 2014 leaf for $8.5k and love it so far... But I have a question - are you buying a new car every 2-3 years and selling the old one? Because it seems like you would be taking a big hit each time since cars lose so much value... Is it that money is no object or do you have it worked out with a tax rebate to break even or something? (Not that having more EVs in the world is a bad thing, just wondering - I'm the kind of guy who buys a car used and drives it into the ground, so I'm interested to understand what's going on for someone buying new cars regularly)
@@itWouldBeWise That's why they are virtually disposable cars. The battery fails below 80,000 miles. I was thinking about getting a used leaf because I was told rebuild 24 kwh battery would be $2800. There's no rebuilt batteries anywhere. I was told a new battery would be $5400. Nissan raised the price to $8500 plus installation. Figured the price of the battery every 80,000 miles and the calculations came up to the same as if you drove a vehicle getting 14 miles per gallon. Then you have to add on the surcharges on tags, which is currently $120 extra per year going to $500 per year in the next few years. I priced a used Tesla with a bad battery, guess what, it's $24,000 plus installation and the insurance is almost triple what my current vehicle is. It's pretty obvious EV cars are expensive disposable toys. I really wanted one, but I wanted to save money too, not spend more.
Bryan Hensley Your information on battery life is incorrect. I own a 2013 Leaf with 85k miles and have only lost 2 bars. The battery life is supposed to be closer to 30 years than gauged in miles.
Hey. I had the 62kwh foe 6months now. We bought it because of the biggest booth of the conpact class. And 3 screws and a socet and the the subwoofer is out. Its more than good enough for daily use.
Yeah pretty much nailed it. They squandered a huge advantage and then made a car far less affordable than it was back 8 years ago when batteries were far more expensive. Makes no sense to do what they’ve done.
That's the EV premium biting. These cars only cost a few thousand to make and sell including wages. Normally cars get a 4-6× price multiplier, electric vehicles get a 1.5-2× additional price multiplier on top. Car makers know we need BEVs to survive car makers legacy of fossil vehicles, so since there's a needed demand capitalism says raise the price.
He likes it as much as the other, but he is disappointed on the differential between the hype and reality, and it's a rip off, (like anyone, secretly) he wishes he could punch the marketing guy that spew this bullshit. You get a kick ass Merc for that money or indeed a Tesla.
@@MyWorldRS No he actually didn't like the speedo, only the steering wheel. Actually I think that the steering wheel is the only salvageable thing in there. At that price I get a second hand Merc and pay for my petrol, insurance and tax for years.
I got 18000 Discount for the 62kwh Leaf. In the end the price was a lot cheaper than all the competitors. More comparable to a Zoe. For that price it was a no brainer.
If you love the 30kwh Nissan Leaf you will be ecstatic driving the 62kwh Nissan Leaf Plus with twice the range and the horsepower! They were about the same price also with tax incentives. Do some homework people.
@@wakkadakkaify Didn't you say you had a 2013 Nissan Leaf? That year had about 100 horsepower and a 100 mile range in the S trim , about $28,000 MSRP in 2013. My 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus, a much higher trim level has 214 horsepower and charges 226 miles everytime I charge it . MSRP was $42, 890. You cannot compare apples to oranges. I am quoting you as much truth as I can. I tried to do as much homework as possible which is still a lot more than most on the internet. Thanks, wakkadakkaify.
@@markdemaegd4058 I have a 2017 leaf which was 28k. New leaf is 40k (prices in £). What it charges to makes no difference. I get 100-120 miles out of my car, how much real range do you get ?
Nissan created something brilliant when they made the first leaf and now when electric cars are starting to take off ( so to speak) they give up when they could have really forged ahead and took a massive share of the electric market.
Lack of leadership. My Nissan dealer has been amazing, and we hated the bolt, so it’s why we went with the plus (no Niros or konas here). S+ was 10K more for base option. Similar range all things included. Propilot is pretty good.
You dropped the ball on your review. You definitely do not have an understanding of the automotive industry. I appreciate the car a lot. And I totally understand the challenges automakers have to face developing, selling and making a profit on EVs. I wish you focused on what the car offers from the getgo. No need to argue with you. Definitely a bad review and not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Maybe some recognition? Validation?
Absolutely agree with you 100% being a 2018 leaf owner I’d me crazy to even consider the e-plus as my next car. Imagine paying luxury car tax for the e-plus?? That’s laughable
Completely agree!! Here in USA is priced similarly and the Leaf plus S is more expensive than Tesla Model 3 standard range. Also no battery cooling is big disadvantage and that 100kW CHAdeMO is a joke as in USA believe or not there is no 100kW CHAdeMO chargers. Then even on 50kW charger this car will rapitgate and pretty much diminish the idea of fast charging.
watching this as considering upgrading our 30kw to one of these. As a house hold with a 30kw leaf and an MG ZS EV the MG isn't a car we'd buy again, yes it has the range compared with the leaf but it's not that nice to drive, regen doesn't work all the time, doesn't work at all on cruise control, charges slow as hell, for what every reason ours doesn't charge faster than 34kw, no app to preheat, no heated steering wheel - not a big thing for everyone but we're in north Scotland- to replace the MG we ordered an Enyak sportline in October that still hasn't arrived as the leaf is still perfect my 30 mile commute and I can pre heat it in the morning and before leaving work in winter.
I have the a 2022 40kwh leaf Tekna, great car for what I paid, £19k with 7500 mileS on it. I bought and sold a Tesla model 3 earlier this year. Wasn’t worth the 42k I paid IMO. The leaf drives better in terms of comfort, and is a much better build quality. I have a friend who have been using a 40kwh leaf for 4 years as a UBER taxi. It’s done over 180,000 miles with no issues or repairs needed. Not even brake pads
That's nothing,in Thailand we got a normal 40 Kwh battery Leaf with small ass dashboard for 51,000 pounds or almost 2 million THB and can't choose the trim here! Can't even imagine the horror of people who got their battery overheated in our hot year round climate. So we basically got the short end of stick model and then some.
I still think that, above all other failures, the failure to provide a battery with proper thermal management lets this car down and takes it out of any sensible reckoning. If this battery fails to the same extent as some 24KWH batteries, and they charge the sort of prices currently quoted in Australia (£18,115) then a replacement battery for this car could cost more than £48000 (see reports by AutoExpert TV). As to the price, I cannot understand why EVs are going up so much. You have commented on the price increases on the E Niro and the Kona Premium SE is now listed at more than £40000. These and the Leaf were supposed to be in the family car bracket and yet are in, or near, the luxury car bracket for cars that,apart from the cost of the battery, must be significantly cheaper to build than the equivalent ICE cars. You make a very valid point on the money wasted on development of the Propilot system. Personally, I wish all manufacturers would stop all of this autopilot/propilot/autonomy development and focus on getting affordable, functional and reliable EVs on the market at sensible prices.
I recently got the 40kwh on a lease and I think it's great. The interior seems the same as the e+ and I'm very happy with it, maybe I'd feel different if I'd had an older version if it's that similar but I think it's nice. Not sure why you care so much about the feel of the plastic above the dash? I'm pretty sure I've never cared about that. I'd heard the in car map was a bit rubbish but I've got apple car play so that's a non issue. Don't think the e+ is worth the extra money and glad I don't have the stupid bose box in my boot though.
Ben Jones he loves to make leaf videos bashing nissan and the leaf. I have a 2012 and like it. One thing i will point out that he is missing. Nissan never said they would change the shape or interior from the 40 kwh leaf to the 62 kwh leaf since it just came out in 2018. All they said they would add to the 62 kwh battery not a completely designed car from 2018 to 2019.i like the new shape. Interior doesn’t bother me. And my god when reviewing a car dont scratch or knock on the plastic it is not a luxury car. My 2012 was 36,000 if new but i paid 12000 used. So how does he expect to get a 62 kwh battery at the 2012 price of a 24 kwh battery.
An honest appraisal of a design which is perhaps well past its sell-by date. The fact that it doesn't have active battery thermal management, especially after the fiasco of Rapidgate, is mind blowing.
Currently in UK You can get new Nissan Leaf 160kW 62kWh Auto e+ N- Connecta just under £27K which is very good price IMHO. KIA E Niro 2 now is around £33K.
I think you should do this review again . Do it from the point of view you never owned a Nissan Leaf ,because that will be the reality for most people thinking of changing over from an ice. So the copied interior and exterior won’t bother many , the price is a problem to be fair . Review it like someone is changing over from there diesel focus . Prices aside I think it’s a nicer car than your giving credit for .
I bought my 59kw Leaf with 6,600 miles on the clock for £17900. It does 250 miles. Acceleration and handling are wonderful. The only downside is the seat. It’s not as comfortable as I would like. The Nissan dealer in Aylesbury was noticeably exellent all round.
Yet to find a positive review of the e+ As a fellow leaf owner (lease) I feel exactly the same sense of let-down. My 40kw is great for now, but no way would I “upgrade” to this.
My test drive of the very car you're reviewing here convinced me I should get a Tesla Model 3. Had it three weeks now and very grateful for Nissan's Tesla advertising campaign :-D
It’s not just Nissan that Renault have a helping hand with but a certain German marque has more to do with Renault than they want there customers to believe
Bravo totally agree I have a 30kwh my wifes had 2 40kwh previously load rubbish replaced them with kia niro which is amazing love my 30kwh it's a proper Yorkshire mans car it does exactly what it's meant to . I actually found another 30kwh 2017 with 500miles total unicorn put a deposit on it hopefully pick up at the end of next week
Love the fact you pay proper attention to material quality. I feel this point is neglected a lot nowadays in car reviews. As long as the infotainment is huge reviewers seem to instantly forget to check the rest of the interior. Look at the new Peugeot 208 and VW ID3, material quality is exceptionally poor on the door cards but almost no one talks about it. Unacceptable for me.
For that price and the features, it's like as good as a 3 legged race horse with ancestor tree - in comparison to a Model 3. Bye bye Nissan, die quietly, please.
Had my Leaf40 since March, it replaced a Leaf30 I’d had since 2016. Gotta say, apart from the e-pedal, extra range and adaptive cruise control I much preferred the 30. My next car won’t be a Nissan. No thermal battery management shows they don’t listen to their customers. Maybe they will if we all go elsewhere!
Our Leaf e+ 2019 Tekna 62kwh is BRILLIANT. we paid £26k and it is so quick. We charge using solar and Octopus Intelligent Go for 7p a kwh. 2p per mile running cost!! 5.9 sec 0-62 . Brilliant.
Just leased a Leaf e+ Sv model in the states. Love the vehicle, pro pilot is fantastic. The e+ is more like a crossover then the model 3, which is too low to the ground for seating for me. Also the M3 has a trunk instead hatch. Yes, it is expensive, but it’s a great car not just an ev.
I like it, but the problem is its price puts it in direct competition with much more capable Vehicles like the Kona and the E Nero, and to be frank on long road trips the lack of active thermal management kills it for me. I love my 2012 leaf, but when i upgrade in a couple years will probably be looking elsewhere.
We like our Plus. The price after all the discount programs was reasonable. In Illinois we have no state discount, so my total after federal rebate for our SV with Tech and cold weather for a few pennies over 30K USD. In some states you can get the Plus for 25K. 40K Pounds is crazy talk, agreed it’s too much. No Kona or Niro in the Midwest. It’s Leaf, Bolt, and 3 only.
@@douglasalanthompson you can get those cars if you're willing to shop used or make a road trip, only issue is there's no dealer support for those vehicles, which is why I went for a leaf instead of a soul EV
Exactly. My local Kia said they can’t support the Niro, so we went Leaf as well. It works well, but you have to drive carefully to do over 210-220 on the highway.
Totally agree with everything you have said, for a change😉 I got a 24 then a 30 which I still have both. I got an invitation from Nissan Chorley to go see the new Leaf and what a disappointment! They wanted double the money to lease it after promising me a good deal in the letter then when I got in it I realised it was the same car! I decided to buy my old lease car instead of buying the new model. When I got my first 24kw it was about the same time you got yours, I was paying £250 per month with £500 down, they wanted £3,000 down and £650 a month for the 40kw! Couldn’t believe what I was hearing. It’s actually not as good as the 30kw as I found out on the first long journey in a loaner 40kw, it took me twice as long to drive 300 miles because it would only rapid up to 15kw, totally useless on long journeys.
I thought I would comment on this vid having recently ordered a 40kwh Leaf with a huge discount. Nothing else came close in price and should save me around £50 a month over my wheezy petrol car... Now a stepping stone for buyers to get into EV. Even the MGZS couldn't come close in terms of monthly price... Have Nissan relented?
When i see reviews of Fords and Nissans in particular, I appreciate the cabin lay out of my BMW even more. I can never get over the sheer number of switches all over the place!
Here in the US (Utah) after tax rebate ($7,500) you can get a standard LEAF (not Plus) for $15,000 net cost ($22,500 purchase price). They are discounting it by about $10,000.
Yep totally agree with every point you made. It kinda shocked me when I found out the front doors are EXACTLY same parts as the original!!! When you consider HOW much this car now costs it doesnt seem very good value for money at all? Doesnt sound like they have improved the sound insulation in the wheel arches either. As you went through those puddles I can tell its exactly same as my leaf!
I have the 40 kWh LEAF. From the rumours and comments flying round at the time just before I bought it (2017), this 62 kWh car should have been the model released back then at the price the 40 kWh was back then. And bear in mind that the original LEAF from 2011 was released before the Tesla Model S (released in June 22, 2012 from Wikipedia) and in that time, the LEAF has had only incremental drive train improvements.
Adding every possible optional accessory onto it is completely disengenious. The e+ is Tekna spec already and has almost everything you could possibly want. The only actual functional extra over the base-price of £37k is the ProPilot parking assist for £1099. So £38k. In fact the actual "maybe" price you whimsied about. All those accessories are mostly tat that nobody actually buys with their car, and are almost all entirely cosmetic. So don't bullshit about it being a £43k car. It's not. And no one is paying anywhere near that much for one.
If you're caught using your phone whilst driving, in Britain and in some other countries, you can be fined and receive points on your license. An in-car satnav circumvents that problem.
@@RWBHere I understand that but at what point does it become a phone? The device is not just a phone but also a GPS and media centre for music and radio (internet radio).. I keep mine in a holder in the CD player. Perhaps laws are too loosely defined. If a person drives while holding their phone they are just asking for trouble, regardless of any laws.
This is what car reviews should be like: based on real-world experience, straight-talking and honest. Well done and thanks for saving potential buyers from making an expensive mistake.
I don't agree, I own one and as a used purchase and a range I need to only charge from home makes this a great car at less than £20,000 with only 4000 miles on the clock you can't go wrong.
I bought a 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus with 214 horsepower and it will smoke most vehicles on the road today! This guy has a couple of valid points but he must work for an electric vehicle competitor. Yes, the Nissan Leaf Plus is not a Tesla 3 Performance. The Leaf is not as fast or in that category as a Tesla. The Leaf has some hard plastic and its looks are not as nice as the Tesla Model 3. If you think the others have better charging systems than the Leaf then go for it. Yes, you can buy a gasoline car for half the price if you want but you get what you pay for. Go buy a Chevrolet Spark or another dog vehicle if that's what you want and can afford, it makes sense. Once you go electric you can't go back to an internal combustion engine vehicle.
The 214 horsepower Nissan Leaf Plus will smoke a 200 horsepower Ford Fiesta. The torque off the line of the Leaf is immediate and intense. The Leaf Plus is not Tesla Model 3 Performance fast but at about $20,000 less it's a good deal. If you can afford the Tesla Roadster it goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds. Quick is quick and faster is faster. The new Chevrolet Corvette is half that fast. Sorry. Electric vehicles are just superior.
@@markdemaegd4058 got to remember that the leaf top speed is something like 80or so where the ice car can do 120 so over 20 15 seconds or so the ice will win but then who goes 120?
The leaf was one of the first electric cars I testdrived. Later I tested an old one an realized, it is quite the same car. So I considered buying the used old one. Finally I boughr a Hyundai Ioniq because of CCS and better efficiency and mor practical flat boot and the looks.
I'm seriously considering the MZ ZS EV since your last video, and then you mention it again now. Hmmm... I'd still need to cover 30k miles to recover the equivalent fuel costs, but there seems to be lots of vehicles on the horizon. Think the Kia e-Nero ticks more boxes, especially on the range. Decisions, decisions...
Presumably you will cover 30K miles eventually, so that's no problem. And it's not just about the costs - it's about pollution and noise and climate change and just being the right thing to do (if you aren't going to just switch to a bike :-)
@@xxwookey Electric cars are very expensive and very polluting to make. And they still pollutes the air (although less than a ice car). I mean yeah we could pay more in order to "preserve" the environnement but i don't think the small benefits of EVs justify that costs. Bikes aren't a viable option for most people. (And EVs too actually)
No wonder they referred to it as a 1.5 revision. Nissan also majorly screwed up by not going fully CCS or at least sticking DC pins under the type 2 charger.
EV prices are ridiculous. You could buy 3 similar petrol cars for the price of 1 Leaf! And of course the battery will need replacing at huge cost just when the car had depreciated to scrap value.
Well the battery life (for a temperature managed car) should be 20 years in the car and possibly another 10 on top for home storage. Nissan seem to be trying to go for 10 year battery life which is just daft.
In the U.S. The e+ and and the E-Niro cost almost exactly the same. They start at $38,500 and go all the way up to the the mid $40-thousands. The E-Niro has 13 miles more range, which is negligible. The biggest difference is that the e+ is actually available to anyone who wants to buy it. The E-Niro inventory is extremely limited and available only in a few states.
Leased my first Ev, leaf SL 2019! Large battery, great stereo system, all leather, and perfect for hauling by bike, am an avid cyclist! Got $7500 government credit for an EV purchase too! Car is very nimble for driving in and around the community! Pearl white with black trim really like my new addition to the family...!
Its mad how Nissan are being run, the old new Micra was an expensive joke, they axed the note which is a fantastic car and the qashqui/ new Micra are just rebadged Renaults for twice the price... I blame the French 😆
I agree and IMO Nissan customer service and dealerships need to get their act together. They are even closing down access OOHs to their charging network. My next car will now be a Tesla Model 3.
I bought the Leaf 2.zero when it came out (swapped a 30kwh).. love it.. just sold the missus' Leaf 24Kw Tekna, so have had both and much prefer the Leaf 40 Kwh... but that now has a back seat as I bought the Model 3 SR+... there is no comparison. The Leaf 40Kwh map does suck pretty bad.. I use the Android auto with Waze instead.
The question is that four years on since your test, does the 62kWh leaf make a reasonable used buy? After all, Tesla Bjorn did a 3000 km trip in one without too much bother.
I looked at this “new” leaf and drove one when it was released and could not believe its price! Also the fact the steering will not adjust to suit my arm length related to pedal and feet etc. Then the news that the battery would not charge properly when hot even though the 90mile range NV200 can have battery cooling , off I went to competition 🤔
Excellent review. I have owned 2 Leafs and was planning to get the much promised longer range version due out in 2017 originally. This is shocking and it’s no wonder Nissan are in trouble. Recently tested the new MG EV. Very nice and half the price of the E+ (fully spec’d admittedly).
This blagging people with words like ‘new model’ seems to be the way now as manufacturers concentrate on profit and sod it’s customers. Lame job, Nissan - not the company it used to be
Great video again, thanks waiting until next year and going to buy a second-hand model s and import it into Ireland. Very different choices over here fewer options and way way more expensive, model 3 starts at 49000 euro after the government grants!!!
Thank you for this informative review. Completely agree with all the points regarding value for money and lack of development. Forget the Pro Pilot, stick to Pro Plus 😁
New Nissan Leaf Plus for hauling stuff and the dog, Tesla 3 for everything else. We are enjoying both. The Tesla is just too nice of a car for giving car rides to the dog.
I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head. I don't run an EV but I do own a Nissan product. (T30 Xtrail) and it seems quite a number of owners are having problems with Nissan dealers and the cars across the range. They've taken the eye off the ball with failing to spot buying trends - especially the rise of EV sales worldwide but also made fatal error of ignoring the drop in demand of diesel cars. Now they're panicking and having to play a game of catch up but without the budget to develop all new base vehicle. I bet the e-Niro is causing Nissan management some sleepless nights.
Had a Lef 24 exchanged for a 40kw got a fantastic trade in and discount getting 180 miles in summer and only waited. 10 weeks for delivery Spot on very happy
I think you will be hard pushed to find any Renault bits in the Leaf, Designed in Japan but built in the UK (for Europe) Its is however the only Nissan sold in Europe that is Renault Free.
It’s more of the way Nissan is run the build quality has come down but the prices have gone up, most of nissans cars have the the same under pinnings don’t be fooled because it has a Nissan label, quite a lot of parts have Nissan and Renault part numbers on them
@@Mrflash222006 I'm not in anyway fooled, I stand by my previous comment, my Leaf smells more of Sushi than Garlic. I agree the same can't be said for any other Nissan sold in Europe.
Just to give an outsider opinion, we just bought a nissan e-power note in Japan. I think they're shifting their focus to range extending tech instead of battery focused. For whatever reason, be it not enough charging support here or battery supply issues you can feel the leaf kind of being downplayed a bit. Maybe they don't want to compete with all the new players and the king, Tesla. In any case their e-power system is probably cheaper, built on leaf drive train with nissan motor tech, and in our note we get real world 30km/l or about 84mpg. And it cost equivalent 15,500 pounds to buy. Sucks, we really considered a leaf as well but in the end the note was the obvious choice and that decision was well encouraged by the sales person.
