We owned 2 generations of Leaf. The 30, and then 40 kWh Leaf. 30 struggled as we live in rural Ireland but the 40 was a brilliant car. The issue with charging didn't bother us as we charge at home 99% of the time. Hugely comfortable cars, very good at what they do, even if slightly dated at this stage.
The comments are hilarious Pro vs anti EV. Calm down people. There’s a place for both EVs and ICE and I think that’s the issue, at the moment with the current battery technology, EVs cannot replace ICE for long journeys but for the cities they are perfect. Now the problem is EVs are getting bigger and bigger requiring bigger battery packs and you’d could argue that’s not an efficient use of resources. Small and light would be the way to go for use in cities. At the moment, it seems that plug in hybrids would be the best of both worlds, smaller battery packs with a range of 50 or so KM with the ability to hold the charge for city use. That range would suit most people’s daily driving and you have the ICE for longer trips then there’s no need for 90kwh of expensive and heavy batteries - a better use of resources cheaper and the ability to get more of them on the road.
The issue with hybrids is the complexity and servicing costs of having both powertrains. Totally agree with the polarisation though - otherwise nice people seem to turn into rabid dogs because of a poo-storm created by some tabloids and a handful of RU-vid influencers creating hand-wringing anti-EV content for clicks. Hyundai created the sweet spot EV, the original Ioniq. Ultra-efficient design and smaller, lighter battery because, well, less power needed to drive the same distance. But it was binned - presumably because of market demand with people believing they need 65kWh+ batteries for one journey a year. Every other EV since, other than the Tesla, has been a step backwards.
I'm very sanguine about the future of EVs. Sooner or later sanity will reassert itself and lighter, smaller EVs whose manufacturers don't think we all need stonking 0-60 times and a ton of pointless gadgets will appear; new battery technologies will reduce weight and overheating problems, and the charging infrastructure will catch up. People will eventually realise that EVs may cost more to buy, but fuel and maintenance costs are less, so we need to adjust to a new model of car ownership. @@MrBinabanana
If we all drove normal-sized cars with a ~150-200bhp engine, weighing ~1,500kg, with a small electric motor that would do 40 miles on a charge, our personal transport environmental problems would be largely sorted. (And it would be safer for cars/pedestrians we hit.) 40 miles covers most journeys and means a small battery - less pollution from heavy metals. Most of us could do that. We don’t need pointlessly heavy SUVs/crossovers (you can have an estate for extra space). We don’t need 500bhp in a family car. Or even 300. And we could still have sports cars, etc. for occasional fun. The current situation is what happens when you let people selfishly do whatever they want - and allow big businesses to propagandise them through advertising to ‘choose’ to drive needlessly large vehicles. And the government have no intention of improving the charging network because rich people have driveways and garages, so they’ll be fine. That is the key problem with electric cars - or do you have spare hours a week to ‘fill’ your car? Electric cars are still the preserve of the rich - the poor will be shafted once they’re forced into them.
The best thing about the Leaf is the fact the computer systems have been fully hacked or reverse engineered. Thats what has has allowed third parties to do some great things that stop the car from being scrap before its CO2 debt of manufacturer has been paid off. All manufacturers need to be forced to release their information so the aftermarket can create a proper repair industry
I had Tekna 40kw and now a Tekna 62kw. I have only charged once at ChaDemo point with my second car as Nissan "paid" for a charger for my first. I use my "granny charger" (13amp plug) when overnight visiting. I use the E-Pedal as much as possible. Some other EVs don't have the same level of recharge on braking that I am now used to. I fitted a spare wheel and a custom made boot floor.
The Japanese model did came with a space saver spare tire, its placed under the car at the rear. You do have to the metal rack type of thing to hold it and a bolt to lower down that metal rack.
Thank you, I was not aware of that neither was the dealer. I believe that Australian cars must have a spare wheel supplied. The spare tyre jambs in nicely between the Bose woofer and the rear panel and is clean if I need it.
Interesting review. I bought a new Mercedes 220d 3 years ago, it does 60 to 70mpg day to day and I only need to fill it up once a month, a full tank gives a 900 mile range. It’s a lovely car and very convenient and cost effective to run. Recently I’ve been looking at a Polestar on a scheme through my work. With a wall box I could keep it charged at home no problems with fuel costs being a little lower than the diesel Mercedes. What puts me off is the charging network away from home. Last year we did a road trip to Scotland in a PHEV car. We couldn’t find anywhere to charge the battery. Domestic supplies tripped out on the 3 pin plug, service area chargers were all in use, we found a bank of empty chargers but you needed an app to use them and there was no mobile internet to download the app…..Luckily we had the option of just running on petrol so did that instead.
Why not get a Tesla? No worries about the charging network then. Alternatively, pay for a Tesla subscription and use the Tesla chargers that are open to non Teslas.
Good car to drive, extremely comfortable. I charge at home and save a fortune. Cheap to buy compared to most other cars. Most of my journeys are short. Ideal for my needs though not for everyone.
It's fascinating to watch how divided people are over EV's to the point of insulting complete strangers online I don't notice the same zealotry between diesel and gasoline I'm putting it down to the cancerous effect of social media
@@Pyjamarama11 Well, everything is relative. Could be "old" in the sense of "earlier" or "old" in the sense of how some people percieve it. I took a little bit of both into account. More concretely, Reviews posted 3-4 years ago should suffice to see what I mean. Cheers mate.
I still have my 2016 Leaf. Still working perfectly for my needs. Mostly home charged but often top up on the 6KW chargers at supermarkets - why not. No drop in range, still about 120-140 in practice, and still plenty for the tootling around I do. And as you say, so easy to drive. Chademo isn't a problem for me as i only ever used that a couple of times.
If you like EVs, buy one and drive it. If you prefer ICE vehicles, buy one and drive it. The choice should remain for many years to come by which time the charging network and/or battery tech will be much better.
Politicians are not engineers and they have little to no idea how much of a task it is to electrify cars, never mind an entire society. They think punitive taxes and juicy subsides are the solution to every problem.
My sentiments exactly. Love the new tech of EV but still can't resist any ice with more than 5 cylinders. A bit of a fine line in leaving it to market forces but at the same time pushing for change and being at the forefront of it. I doubt it won't be the last time a UK government pushes back the full adoption period.
I've had a 2014 Leaf (24kWh) since 2019 and it was the most expensive second hand car I've ever bought (£7,500). But 4½ years later it's paid for its purchase price in fuel savings alone compared to the 2005 Honda Civic it replaced. In October we had a V2H (Vehicle to Home) charger fitted and now I can charge it on cheap overnight electricity and use it as a battery to power my house (and soak up free power from my solar panels). For our family it's the gift that keeps on giving. It's a great daily driver, like you said it's not exciting but it's very competent and it only costs us 2.3p/mile if we charge at home (we get a lot of free solar miles in the Summer too). The bump in the middle of the rear floor is where the high voltage emergency disconnect lives, in the event of an accident the emergency services can pop it open and remove a plug to isolate the battery. With regard to Chademo, we're just beginning to see CCS to Chademo adapters as commercial products (>£800) so there will be some scope to keep using Chademo vehicles in the future.
Work colleague has the older one, bought cheap, crap range but used just for his work commute and local journeys, he reckons he’s saved a fortune and virtually no service costs. Not bad for a now 10 year old car.
but that's every car. No room for cheap n cheerful because 5% profit margins for city cars back in 2014 are worth way less than in 2024. Interesting that you have a Toyota Aygo as your pfp We can all roughly agree how much better the Aygo/C1/108 was compared to the stand alone monstrosity that is the Aygo X.
That's an interesting one. I lease mine on a salary sacrifice scheme. As I no longer worry about servicing, repairs or depreciation and save a lot on money on fuel with chargers at home or work I am not spending much more than I was running the 11-year-old high-mileage diesel Mazda that finally expired on me, but the EV is a huge amount better in every way.
As far as cold weather goes ... the 2019 LEAF we bought two months ago has just been through a week of sub-minus-30 weather. (I live in Saskatchewan, because I am insane.) Never needs a boost, the cabin heats up in five minutes compared to 20-30 for the old Civic. The range isn't great even with the 62kWh battery, probably 150km in that bitter cold, but we're not regular highway drivers so it's just fine - and that's a worst case range, worse than worst-case for you Brits. Plug it into the side of the house at night, it's charged in the morning and you really don't need more than that. Best winter city driving car I've ever owned. I kinda like the "old-fashioned" interior with buttons for most things rather than having to navigate touch screen menus, too.
I’ve had my 2018 leaf Tekna 40 kwh for 3 years , It has 98000 miles on the clock but still drives perfectly and everything works as it should . Leafspy says my battery capacity is ~86.2% . Great little car .
We have a 2016 Tekna leaf which is only 24kw, it fits in with our life style perfectly. We both work from home, it's perfect for whizzing around locally for picking up and dropping off kids etc. We love it, so easy to drive and still able to shock boy racers at the traffic lights 😂. I think the type of EV you chose is definitely proprationate to its use and your life style and the leaf ticks all those boxes for us. I should add we still have a diesel as a second car which we don't use that often but still need for towing the caravan 🙄
I doubt any boy racers would be shocked at a leaf tekna's acceleration. It's equivalent to most standard petrol cars let alone a hot hatch. Also give it the beans a few times and watch your range disappear quickly. EV owners going on about acceleration always make me laugh as you never see one going quick on the road as they're too worried about impacting range.
I think you have it pretty much spot on. If your daily driving isn't a huge distance and your company has charging points an electric vehicle is a fantastic choice. I mean getting the boss to pay for your driving is a win. If your drive is longer or you need to carry weight then EV are not the greatest. What we do need is those who drive I.C.E. and Electric vehicles to realise is we are all road users, stop fighting each other and turn our gave onto those who are not delivering what they are supposed to The Government who for many years have let our roads turn to into a potholed mess.
The main reason that the prices are either staying static or dropping is because of all the bad press. That's because of the poor quality Chinese batteries that are being used in order to keep production costs down and profits up. I think that when a cheaper and safer alternative to this generation of batteries is developed and made available then the prices will stabilise and people will be more willing to put their hard earned cash into the product.
Am not American, but from what i gather online, there are people out there thinking EVs will be the death of America and proud owners of the last remaing gas guzzlers in existence.
Another issue with the Leaf is that the battery is passively cooled which means, a) when traveling, charging slows down with each successive recharge, and b) the battery degradation over the life of the vehicle is far worse than any other EV.
A more balanced review of a fairly modern car regardless of the power source. A vehicle with a reliable 150 miles even in winter is more than sufficient for 95% of drivers. The average car use per day is around 20 miles in the UK and most people do not go on journeys of over 100 miles with any sort of regularity. We have an EV. It's not a Nissan though it has similar battery capacity and motor power but will do more real miles than the Nissan does. Our everyday need is low but round trips with an oldie to the hospital can result in 80 plus mile days. We now have the ability to charge on cheap juice overnight even though we live in a Victorian terrace. Local authorities are slowly but surely making this happen. I love cars and my all time favourite is the Ford Anglia 123E Super with the 1200cc engine. We had a 1967 vintage version and I loved everything about that car. To be brutally honest though in the modern world a modern car is so much safer and more practical.
You nailed it in regards to driving an ev in a rural area. I live in a larger rural city and we have two public plugs in town. Many people like me do a lot of miles since everything is far. Unless you have an employer that you can charge at, it’s a tough sell in rural areas. Keep up the great variety!
Im happy with my ev as a daily. I have a classic car for fun. If it works for you try it. Im not going to preach to others about it. Thanks for a fair review as allways.
A fair and balanced review, most likely another car I would consider alongside the MG4 if I had to Change the family car. I actually need to drive a Leaf again and see how it compares to the MG4 I reviewed.
Hi Ian. Just to to put a counterpoint to all the negative comments, interesting to see the the viewpoint of someone like yourself on such cars, and no car is going to be everybody's cup of tea. They will be the perfect car for some folks - just not for those folks who seem to posting angrily for some reason. Reminds me of the Daily Male strip in Viz 😅
One of the best and impartial reviews on an electric car .I am not a fan of EVs but that Nissan has got a lot of things right so silly huge touch screen plenty of normal switches and dials looks like a "normal" car not ugly but no need for all that power and still the charging issues in the real world
A lot of noncense, i drive a Nissan Leaf since 2018. . No problems at all. Okay chademo not the standard anymore bur available , I drove from Holland to the south of France. , nor any problem by loading with chademo I like this car..
Thanks for the video, Ian, solid review. If you can't charge at home, you're in trouble and that doesn't appear to be changing any time soon. So where does that leave us? Also note: Funny how EV videos get spammed heavily with positive comments from people with strange posterior-related photos.
Great video. The competition has leapfrogged the Leaf, that mattered to me, but it doesn’t matter to everyone. I hope the CCS charger adapter becomes widely available for these cars to keep running. Whatever your opinion, keeping cars on the road longer is a great thing, cheap motoring is a lifeline for many people, particularly if they need an “auto” this would be a great motor used at less than a fiver to charge at home on the right tariff with minimal maintenance.
Chademo is an actual standard whereas CCS has variations between manufacturers. Chademo is also designed with V2G in mind and V2G/V2H functionality was mandated for Japanese manufactured EVs in the wake of Fukushima as is presents the potential for EVs to provide grid resilience by acting en-masse as a utility scale grid storage facility. We're onto our second Leaf (2012 24kWh, 2016 30kWh) and use of public charging is virtually nil for us. The upgrade was actually done last year with V2G very much in mind as we have solar and I'm hesitant to spend money on a static battery when a Leaf can do the job plus provide mobility. Some very interesting info to be had in Robert Llewellyn's interview of David Slutzky of Fermata Energy on V2G's potential in electricity supply resilience and gaining income from your Leaf by way of their bidirectional charging functionality. Worth noting also that EV manufacturers are reacting to V2G demand and are now increasingly incorporating this in their vehicles, but the humble Leaf has had this almost from its debut.
My biggest upside on CHAdeMO is that when I go to charge my car it is almost always vacant. There are not so many other cars that use it. So I hardly ever have to wait for charging. Although very rarely I have found a place where all the stations are taken (so the CSS connectors are also usually available).
I had a Leaf for two years. After 8000 miles its range was 35 miles in winter at night (- heater, lights, wipers etc). It needed a new £5,000 battery. Factor that into your running costs - £2500 per annum for batteries. The dealer said the 5 year warranty is void because I plugged it in to recharge it when it was already 80% full. Apparently the same applies if you let the battery go below 20%. In which case the useable range is actually 60% of its real range, which in turn is probably 85% of the manufacturer's claimed range. I have solar panels at home so of course when the sun shone on them I plugged it in. You would, wouldn't you? The dealer never told me not to plug it in if it was already 80% full, and why did the stupid computer on board allow this? That's the last time I have an EV.
I call BS on this story. Totally made up. The 20/80% guideline is just that. No issue charging to 100% or running down to zero occasionally. No impact on warranties. No dealer would say what you claim. A warranty repair would be good for them. I know you want to spread fairy stories but do not pretend they are real. Just be honest that you do not like EVs for some strange reason.
It didn't need a new battery. It needed a battery pack refurbishment, which costs roughly the same as fitting a new clutch to an ICE car..... Please explain why you felt you'd have to spend £5000 on a new battery on a 2 year old Leaf, when the battery has an 8 year warranty?
@@Brian-om2hh I didn't have to spend £5,000 on a new battery, the next owner did. I had it on a 2yr PCP and just gave it back to Nissan. The dealer said that the warranty was void, not me.
@@VillaSpainMarbella I bought the A2Z EV version it's made in China of course. I think I paid $1500 CAD. A2Z EV is located in Quebec Canada but I think they sell a European version as mine is CCS combo 1 for North America.
I'm surprised at how far behind Nissan are with the Leaf in the EV world. As you alluded to, their focus now is on the Aria. It's a shame that so many manufacturers seem intent on releasing SUV after SUV which is why I've not gone for one until fairly recently. I love the idea of EV and have just ordered my first, a BMW i4 eDrive 40 M Sport Pro which I'm eagerly awaiting. Not very HubNut, but happy to lend it for a test drive if you ever feel the need (I'm in Wales too). I don't get the hatred towards EV. Like you've also alluded to in other videos, it's nice to have a variety in the fleet. I like all sorts of cars regardless of propulsion. I have my V8 in the garage. I love the smooth and effortless driving dynamics that EV offers for daily driving. Did not order mine to 'save the world', I ordered it because I actually enjoy driving EVs for daily driving. I do like the look of the current Leaf, it's a shame the tech is lagging. Still can't believe they didn't offer a CCS option. I supposed it's a bit of a BETAMAX Vs VHS situation.
I used to have a SEAT Mii electric which was a superb little car. Genuine 160 mile range with a battery that didn't intrude on space vs the petrol model at all. Exactly what you want when people say EVs are too big and fancy. Shame they only made a handful of them before stopping production.
Cool, i genuily been quite intresstes in the i4, bmw seams to be on of the only companies out there with some real towing capcity, 1600kg would be perfect for me. Just wish they wouldn't have switched to that horrible touch screen only. Have to wait until one of the first year version with at least some buttons are back from there lease. I also don't mind EVs but I can't stand the Tesla boys that claim nothing goes wrong with them and everything is perfect. Witch simply is not true. They are the type of people that makes the hate for ev grow. Nissan is just stupid not offering it with CCS today, since they have the technology with Aria
I've currently got a 30kwh leaf, had it 4 years and love it, but the passive cooling and Chademo have become an issue which they failed to rectify. Mine still has all 12 bars ( allot don't) but what I don't understand is why all EV manufacturers ( and public) seem obsessed with SUVs/ cross overs , in a EV you are looking for efficiency but manufacturers have just made bigger, heavier less aerodynamic EVs and just put in ever bigger batteries to accommodate them on range. Seems like madness to me . I'm currently looking at Hyundai Ioniq 38kwh ( discontinued for some stupid reason) that's a decent family car that often achieves well over 5 miles per kWh, on a small battery does 150-160 miles in winter and 180-200 in summer. The battery management is also fantastic with little degradation, only really let down by fairly slow rapid charging ( max 50kwh) but to me that's the way car manufacturers should be going, efficient vehicles.
@@davefitzpatrick4841 Just did some research and the ccs chademo adapter seams to be working now. Apperantly it was to weak battery in it so it couldn't pull the contactors. Classic Ioniq is cool but not certified for towing snd therefore i class is as worthless.
@@Iceeeen yea just watching Dala's video now Which is good , see he's going to order one so that will be interesting, fingers crossed, but for me the leaf is still let down by range and battery management, as I've said mine was a great first dive into owning a EV , I understand you need to tow so yea the Ioniq isn't for you , but for my needs I think it's just about perfect, I could stretch my budget and get a 300 mike EV but in reality I only do long journeys around three times a year and with a disabled wife we tend to take our time on those trips . Either way I won't be going back to Ice cars ( doesn't make sense when I also have solar) although the leaf has it's flaws It has shown me EVs are the way to go ( for me personally) .
Wow, i didn't expect to hear Aberystwyth when clicking on this video. Lived there for 3 years and i miss is dearly, i'd move back in a heartbeat if i could.
Why do modern cars look so big on the outside without having practical loading? We've gone backwards. I'm spoiled with my Peugeot Partner I guess but for me it's not the leccy power plant that puts me off cars like this it's the impractical load area and terrible visibility.
The weird cubby in the back is the battery breaker. Pull off the plastic cover, unscrew the metal cover underneath and yank the big orange handle underneath. If you crash it and the fire brigade turn up, that's what they'll do.
EVs are a controversial topic and this is a great hubnut quality video about an EV. To fuel the discussion, the battery capacity of the nissan shown is equivalent to 1.36 uk gallons of diesel. For me, this small calculation is the strongest argument in favour of EVs. Cars with petrol engines, what a (really nice) waste 🙂
I test drove the Hyundai Kona and I believe it has similiar bhp, and again if you put your foot down all hell would break loose, it's too much power for the car to handle, and probably most people too. I drove the 150bhp Leaf and it was fine, and the VW ID 3 which was 200+ bhp but rear wheel drive, it seemed a lot more refined. The VW was like £37k and didn't even come with rear speakers as standard, it was far too basic and feature-less. Anyways I got annoyed with the whole thing and still have a diesel car, no regrets.
I still love my MK1 leaf and it it's used daily for the work commute of about 35 miles per day for which it's perfect for. Mine is the 24kwh so summer range is around 90 miles and winter around 55 miles. 99% of the time mine is always charged at home overnight so it's very cheap to run. Like Ian says a CCS adaptor is currently in development which will be great and keep the Leaf current for many more years. I do intend to upgrade to the Gen 2 leaf maybe soon to one with the 60kwh battery for longer journeys.
In the same boat, have a 2014 24kw for local stuff. 90 miles a bit optimistic for mine (10 bars). Only charge at home but not convinced with current energy prices that it's the amazing saving over diesel that it used to be vs running our qashqai 55mpg. Brilliant car though, love turning heating on via the app!
@@JamieMcAlley I am lucky that I still have 12 bars on mine and its a late 2015 with 56k miles on the clock. I think that for me personally it's cheaper than running a diesel also when you take into account the lack of Road tax and servicing costs there is still a saving there.
I've got the MK1 30kwh , had it 4 years it is a fantastic car let down by the battery tech and now Chademo. I'm looking at the Hyundai Ioniq 38kwh , CCS charging a realistic range of 150-160 in winter and around 180-200 in summer, owners often reporting their cars achieve well over 5 miles per kWh, proper battery cooling/management and you can pick 2022 models up for around £18 . Whilst I love my leaf I wouldn't touch another because of the passive cooling and poor battery management, the fact that although there are Chademo chargers still being installed far , far fewer than CCS that is though and they are generally dual purpose ( so CCS and chademo) and with more and more EVs on the road it's only making longer distance travelling in the leaf more problematic.
I've owned an e+ Tekna one of these for three years and am very happy with it. Even the 62 kWh doesn't have any battery active thermal management, but it matters less with the bigger battery. Don't do much public charging, but on one occasion, I jumped the queue for CCS as I was the only car that could use the one chademo connector 🤣
As always pro’s and con’s fully explain, with real world experience, such as charge point. There is a place for all, these should be championed alongside ICE, as better is some circumstance, such as short urban journeys and where home charging allows
There is a Brazilian Company featured on Dala's Ev repair that has Beta stage CCS adaptor for the Chademo Nissan and some people bought and used it and improved it by giving the Adapter a bigger battery.
I always enjoy a hub nut video and appreciate the leaf as they were a bit of a trailblazer . In a way I actually like the fact it' is bit dated. However as a life long car nut , especially in respect of classic cars , any future purchase of an EV that I may be forced into making will generate as much excitement as me buying new fridge. I find this very depressing.
2:55 I think it was the Fiat Grande Panda has the cable on a recoil mechanism like a vacuum cleaner (so the car end is permanently affixed and it just needs to be plugged in at the other end), which seems a better idea than having a loose cable about.
Having driven the earlier leaf and this one I think they’re ok at what they are designed to do. Somewhat lacking in character but a reasonable car if you have off street parking .
Driven one for twelve months nearly. Love it, as a vehicle to both drive and enjoy - and with 99% of charging at home on off-peak it's very cheap also. I've needed a rapid charge I think five times in that time and never had a problem finding a chademo. In the UK there are probable more CCS, it just isn't as much of an issue as I think people are making it - to most users
It's relevant to a point HubNut. The Leaf is now outclassed in several areas compared to more recently developed and produced EV's. It's biggest issue is the lack of a heat-pump and decent battery management. But, if you get a good enough deal from the salesperson, it could be worth considering. Personally for similar money, I'd look at decent used Hyundai Ioniq Mk 1's and perhaps the Kia eNiro. Both way ahead of the Leaf on tech and efficiency.
They have a heat pump on the posher models, and have done for about a decade. You don't get that on the lower-spec 40kwh versions. I was wrong about thermal management annoyingly.
@@HubNut the heat pump is on all models except for the early Japanese built ones and the unpopular base Visia spec on the later ones. Very good for the range on a 24kWh in winter.
I tend to agree with you about power. I don't understand the fascination with manufacturers to have ridiculous bhp on EV's. I don't need silly 400+ bhp and sub 4 second 0-60 as seems to be common place on EV's. I'd prefer to have less and have more range. The top 3 selling cars in the UK for 2023 all have less than 200bhp. So give me an EV with 200bhp, 0-60 in 7 seconds, but a range of 400 miles please.
One word as to why the high power: Americans. Regarding the more range in exchange for less power; thats not how EVs work. Effectively no such tradeoff for them. So your wish will likely not be fullfilled because of physics and market demands.
The power is essentially free and the more regen, the bigger the motor required. Having less power won't benefit range much at all; it's all up to your right foot.
Plenty of smarty-pants negative comments on here but these are mainly by know-all types and best to ignore. I use the Leaf for short journeys and town driving for which it is a real winner. Home charging means I am saving big bucks.
@@ridehead8771 I’ve only had the car for a few weeks and haven’t done a full charge. 20% charge costs about £2.50 and takes around 3 hours charging from a normal household socket. I may upgrade to the fast charger later. I was quoted £500 to install. Then again if you do a full charge overnight it could be cheaper depending on who supplies your energy. You would have to investigate.
@ridehead8771 40kwh battery (which would be completely empty) multiplied by the cost of a kwh. I'm paying 23.5p currently. Each kwh will get you 4kwh in summer, 3kwh in winter. (really cold 2.5) Home charger charges at around 6kwh so 24miles for every hour plugged in at home in summer. 6p a mile summer not too shabby.
Brilliant observation about the handbrake. My Renault Zoe has an electric handbrake that the car insists on turning on and will not allow me to park off handbrake free. If I leave the car for two days or more it welds itself on and I get endless weird error messages as I try and force it to release it. A good BANG!!! later and it finally releases which is loud enough for pedestrians to turn their heads to see what has happened. It really is a major pain and shows simple bad design.
Hello, can you please tell me when you get home after work, what percentage your battery is and also what percentage you charge it to? I presume you charge it everyday for a five day working week?
I think that it costs about USD $0.67 for 19.2 kWh per day that I drive from the house to work. That's almost USD $15 per month just roundtrip to work. Each kWh from Cobb EMC, my electricity provider, costs $0.053. I couldn't believe how cheap it is! The majority of the electric bill is the base charge, which is USD $70.
@@GavinScrimgeour hi i get home at 6pm with about 6-10% charge i plug in at 20amp 240volts for about 3hrs and charge to 100% my batterys have degraded to 10 bars on scale averaging 4.5 miles per kwh
@@bubbybunyan3883 Hello, thank you so much for replying. Your comments are very helpful and interesting. I have a 2017 Leaf with 11 bars (cheated out of the first bar) with 85% SOH. Have you used Leafspy on your car and if so, do you have a recent SOH reading? Also, what are the operating temperatures of your car? I live in Scotland and 9 out of the 12 months, the car is rediculously cheap to run. I get a cheap electricy rate of 7.5p per hour.
Having direct experience with a Leaf the chadma charging port was an issue.I looked into an adaptor to use CCS but its not as simple as a different plug its a different ampage so the actual entire charging system needs changing aswell.Classic example from my experience was choosing to charge at Peterborough services on the A1.There were 8 charging points but 7 were CCS.We were stuck there for 2 hours waiting for the Chadma point.EV,s outside of your home charger are a bloody nightmare and pounds per mile are no longer cheaper than diesel.Even 7kw/ hour home charging now costs about twenty quid to fill for 120 miles.
If that car had a CCS charging port, it would be a far, far more practical alternative. Though UK charging structure still needs quite a bit of development. I stuck to my old, very high kilometreage VW Golf IV for the longest of times here in Norway, until it finally just became too expensive to keep it on the road and have it pass MOTs. Thankfully, that coincided with the charging infrastructure really being up to snuff, and after watching lots of very thorough EV tests done by Bjørn Nyland here on RU-vid, I felt more than comfortable about making the switch. I think something like 82 % of new cars sold here in Norway last year were EVs (though I bought a demo car from a dealer), so buying an EV here is about as common as...drinking water, really.
I agree, with CCS the Leaf would still be a pretty good car choice. You'd still have thermal throttling issues on long journeys but at least you could charge at nearly any station.
The fact that every Norwegian city of more than 10 thausand inhabitants have automated highway robbers, in form of toll booth barriers, where electric cars are exempt, as well as a lot of other incentives that punish ICE cars, it's no wonder that electric cars are popular in Norway. Just a bummer that the electric consumers pay with their own money for sub sea powercables to Germany and the UK, so the otherwise cheap hydro power now costs the same in Norway as in Germany and UK. Well, at least a select few make a ton of money on your suffering.
I don't know about writing off the 13A plug. Say you were gòing away for the weekend. 62kWh/3.1kW is only 20 hours to leave it plugged in and get your money's worth from a rented place
In Denmark, most rental holiday places charge (pun intended) an arm and a leg for electricity used. Furthermore, a 13A household outlet is not designed for extended full load
I have the basic MG4. Quite simply brilliant in every way. I still love my classics but petrol feels from a time gone by now. Nissan did so much to pave the way to better motoring but the leaf has not kept up.
Actually, CHAdeMO stations are still being built in the US, so it's not becoming "more rare", yet. The future in the US is not CCS, it is NACS (Tesla), even Nissan has committed to NACS.
We don't trust Elon Musk the Tesla charging standard. We owned a 2019 Tesla Model 3 and we sold it when the used car market went crazy. We like our 2023 Leaf SV Plus over the Tesla. We have a CCS to Chademo adaptor.
Cold in Wales? That said, i drive 2014 C-Max phev. Less than 20 mile range. Car only gets used a couple of times a week, so it only has 40k miles. Averages around 70 mpg per tank, and we only put had in it 3 times a year.
Hello hello, my mum got a Dacia Spring and its a good eletric car even though its a bit small. Sorry for asking but what are the Plans that the germans might get a chance to have merch too. Greetings from the cold germany.
As precarious as the oldest LEAFs are regarding battery health, I would still want one. Not least because if compared to any EV newer than 2015 - it should be a cost parity to give a 2011 LEAF a crash salvage 40-62kWh that enthusiasts offer in the Netherlands
Hi@@toyotaprius79 the last time it snowed it took 2 mins to get hot in my car and melt the snow. I will one day up grade my batties.It's crazy cheap to run. Before I got the leaf I had a old car that looked new but I got to ill to work on. That one goes on TV shows and films now. I sold it. It was on 'Good Omens', The leaf is stressless.
so much politics, so little time... I don't get it. Nobody seems to connect the dots. I fervently believe in global warming and I like the idea of electric cars (I drive a dual fuel car and rely on LPG which is more environmentally friendly but the British government, after allowing grants for vehicle conversion subsequently forgot about LPG and so the associated fuel stations are all going… except in Europe where people think differently). It’s an uncoordinated mess. There is no way that the infrastructure to support mass EV conversion is going to happen without huge (unforeseen!) issues . The figures don't add up and even if they did there are one or two (or twelve) issues left unaddressed: The harvesting of the required rare earths from the bottom of the sea for battery manufacture and the environmental impact is just one issue left unfaced. The emerging danger of electric vehicle fires is another. Lots of people don't live in houses suitable for EV cars. Great if you have your own drive. Not so much if you don’t. I could go on… Everything connects, and until someone addresses the associated problems we will be forever stuck in an "oops, I never thought of that'' moment. Something we, the British people seem, historically, inordinately good at..
It's about control.There's no intention of replacement of the ICE vehicles,with EVs. The masses will be forced to pay highly,or give him there cars.I see civil unrest coming.It will be the last straw.
Er, LPG is far from environmentally friendly. The emissions produced during LPG refining are truly horrendous, although the end user doesn't see these.
Great video 👍 There is a CCS to ChaDeMo adapter but very expensive at almost 2k dollars 😬 Dales EV repair has some great videos about the development and final product. BR, Per (Denmark)
We declined an offer for the Leaf by our Uncle Jürgen who is a Nissan dealer. Insufficient range. You can't go Monschau- Wipperfürth and back on one charge.
Bose audio is usually vastly overrated. Great marketing but poor sound quality. Had the same in an Alfa GT I had. JBL, Focal and HK stuff in cars tends to be better. Nice road test, quite reminiscent of old school Chris Goffey Top Gear
Most of the time, its just the brand slapping their name on it and gave what the car brand wanted;a mediocre but better than standard audio system. So yes, it depends on the car brand. If the car brand requested the audio manufacturer to make good sound system, they can. But sometimes they just requested the mediocre ones and slap on their famous brand on it for marketing.
