NKVD Officer's Model Nagant Revolver 

Crazy Archer that is true for the communist Chinese army in its early days as well! Instead of saying officers and soldiers they say the commanders and fighters.

It is not really correct. You can find contemporary (30s and early 40s) documents that use 'officer' interchangeably with 'commander' because of force of habit/tradition. It was obviously frowned upon by more politically correct people at the time but it was in use.

WORD BAD, WORD GOOD! DOUBLEBAD, DOUBLEGOOD, IN FACT!

I will get the nails for the shoulder boards.

@@CruelDwarf yeah, in the same way "commander" was still in common use later on till the end of the union. right now, in estonia, an previously ocupied ussr area, older people still refer to ranks such as prapor and so on, even though we have used a western system for three decades... habits die hard

Yeah, honestly I’m pretty sure u can count the number of meaningful innovations for firearms on ur hands.

I was expecting a firestorm of arguments about that here- a lot of people seem to think it was far more effective than Ian does.

It allowed the use of suppressor. So not completely useless. It wasn't originally designed for that purpose, though.

@@vvm1989 the gas seal was an accidental success.

@@nikik5567 I have a question for someone more knowledgeable than myself. How come that gas pressure never forces the primer out of the casing? Gas pressure acts on the bullet, propelling it away from the shooter. By the same token, such gas pressure should act on the primer as well, right? Why doesn't it? Why do primers always remain seated after firing? In a rifle, you usually have the bolt face "securing" the primer. In revolvers, we only have the hammer/transfer-bar acting on it. Thank you.

@@WinyPouh Yes, this is fairly common knowledge. The joke here was that the NKVD is infamous for killing dissidents, thus "silencing" opposition of the Soviet regime.

@@Tunkkis any proof? Or it just stupid propaganda.

@@drdnout go on tell us what other genocide didn´t happen.

@@drdnout how many army officers were killed in the purges of the 1930s? Just to start.

@@ScottKenny1978 not many, events of 1941 will show that not enough.(bastards like Vlasov, Bandera, Shukhevich, etc)

@@adamradziwill butthurting belorussian migrant detected.

As Stalin said: there are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors

How about Noviks? Was he Latvian or Belarusian NKVD officers? Or Vitebsk, where he was born, is a Moscow district in your history book?

@@wraithwyvern528 proofs? Who said that Stalin said that?

@@QuantumMechanic_88 proofs please. When and whoo said that Beria said that?

Interesting. The covert guys took charge, not standard law enforcement. Stands to reason. Russian law enforcement/security history is so confusing. all the joining and splitting and name/acronym changes.

Big brain time!

Blochin from NKVD is a Hero!

Sergey Kuznetsov: Than was CK earlier than OGPU?

@@finrodfelagund1052 General Vasily Blohin?? Yes he was arguably a recordist.

@@adamradziwill Please take your politics somewhere else.

@@adamradziwill butthurting belorussian migrant detected.

@@adamradziwill they used what they had at their disposal - Nagants, Mossins, probably even Mauser pistols. Any weapon is meant to kill, quite a news, isn't it?

@@adamradziwill I think everyone got what you want to say. No need to repeat it so much

I'm curious on how a shooter aim the double action variant M1895. It seems like on 0:59 in this video the hammer obscures the rear notch. Does this mean that it still need to be cocked first before aiming even for the DA variant?

You don't want to, believe me.

Yeh, the bodies, forced confessions and unmarked graves

I’d rather not

If it told you it would have to kill you.

So many polish officers murdered with it.

*[insert joke about the Russian Navy here]*

So the question then is: can a million guys with Nagants sink a destroyer, assuming it's no more than 25 meters away?

@@Zer0SumGame So just... *[Insert Russian Navy]*

@@alltat A WW2 destroyer has almost no armour, less than 1 inch typically, but that's still more than what a Nagant revolver can punch through.

@@alltat Sure, easily! Just throw them all on board, it would be pretty surprising if a ship can handle double its deplacement.

Any movie made in the 2000s has no excuse

All shit tier movies. Even in the 50s that never happened

@@nikik5567 speaking of Rider named Death, not every movie maker has guts to make a movie where 1905 terrorists would be viewed not as complete villains: in soviet ideology Savinkov was pictured as a villain and individual terrorism practiced by the SR party never got much of focus in cinema; and post 1991 Russia has strong imperial bias so even pre1905 revolutionaries are not appreciated by the mainstream media. So let's be glad that they did what they did and didn't get shut down at all.

@@jonmeray713 I can't check the list of firearms used by soviet movie makers in the 50s, but I bet that there's a lot of 1895 Nagants anyway. Also I recall a pack of Webleys, a 1879 Reichsrevolver, and a nickel plated S&W Russian in 1973 Sannikov's Land.

@@SamuraiAkechi I wouldn't call Savinkov a hero by any stretch of imagination =) He was a writer himself and wrote some brilliant autobiographic books that outright refuse to glorify what he did. This doesn't change the fact that SRs were lumped together with royalists and others (Bolsheviks were superb at this, and completely plastered over the fact that most people they fought were also for reforms and democracy), but Savinkov was a a self-professed dying breed of damned murderer. Anyway, frankly no one thinks about how INSANE was political terrorism in pre-Revolutionary Russia. According to at least one research of statistics archives, in the period of 1908-1910 alone, there was about 20 000 terrorist acts and expropriations, with over 700 government workers killed (from generals to simple postal workers), and over 3000 civilians as collateral. Way more than 9/11. By that time, wide-scale terrorism was going on for decades, including the killing of one emperor (Alexander II) and near-killing of another (Alexander III). And only the killing of Stolypin, the most prominent state minister and the spearheader for new (rather reactionary, but still) reforms, led to a total crackdown. Which didn't help.

This is not historically correct, I am afraid. 'Cosmopolitan', 'Kulak', 'Spy' are the appropriate recipients for the attentions of the NKVD. 'Dissident' belongs to more civilized times, when they were dealt with by the tender mercies of the KGB and Psychiatric Hospitals.

Stukach Slayer

Both this and any SS Pistols make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up because of the direct association with the killers of a murderous despotic regime

It also includes a conscript motivation device for when those MG42s just have too much ammo for you to assault them yourself.

Oh you have a Zorki? I have one as well without any special markings. It's a really great camera and the stock telescoping lens is great, amazing contrast.

Of course, the good old cliché of an NKVD soldier being either a homicidal maniac or a pen-pusher. NKVD troops were border guards - my grandma's first husband died in Ukraine in the first week of the war, doing his duty. When wondering about history, please try and learn it.

@@leshatcatski5089 while it is certainly a stereotype it does exist for a reason. The NKVD were largely responsible for carrying out the horrific purges at the behest of Stalin and his government. While the NKVD did perform other duties the blood of millions drips from their name like water from a faucet. There is no need to share the fact that normal men served bravely or did not carry out horrific murders at the behest of an egotistical mad man as doing so suggests the idea of the NKVD carrying out such atrocities is a 'misconception' or that it wasn't as widespread as it was. In Katyn forest alone 22k polish police and military prisoners were executed by the NKVD and buried in mass graves. I'm sure your grandfather was 'one of the good ones' but by no means does his life invalidate the view of the NKVD as thugs, murderers and bland paper pushers.

@@manatee9595 Yeah just like Police force every where. NKVD are police, so they got issued police gun. They also did Police shooting etc.

@@yulusleonard985 Think there's a bit of a gulf between the amount of crimes against humanity done by standard police and that done by the NKVD

@@cianakril Or, for most Gringos, "ess, ess, ess, air." Or something close, since the letter э doesn't have a real Gringo/English equivalent.

@@3of11 yeah that Pee Pee Ass Eiche gets me every time

sssr just sounds goofy though.

@Мармеладов ТВ * "aue"

@@pineapplesalad6494 Goofy, but the proper way.

Shutup!

@@dewaldsteyn1306 and your problem is?

@@whatTheFup I think that might be a bot, why do I think so? IDK, that wanna be friends stuff still freaks me out.

@@AutumnBun321 true...

Es Es Es Er. He should have just gone for the "USSR in Cyrillic"

CCCP or SSSR: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik.

“‘Kah Kah Kah Pah’ for Soviet Union”. That’s my version, and I’m sticking to it! 🤣😂😁

Molotov

The signature is from Stalin. commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact_showing_the_new_German-Soviet_border_Sept_28_1939.png

Smol brain. I fix

@Paul Alexander Ass of stone, actually :)

Prototype for what's to come.

Dude, that's like someone buying a vintage Skoda as their first car.

Ahahaha, Comrad Ian McCollum, nice! xD

I'm pretty sure "Иян" would be the correct way of writing his name in Russian, going by the pronunciation.

@@mikeoxlong1395 Иэн, not Иян

@@yobasomaliev Иван, not Иэн.

Иван Коллумович

At first I read it like "stuffing". Eh, still legit.

@@piotrgrzelak2613 "democratic regimes" Cool story, Kolya. How much is rouble worth today?

@@Infernal969 it's doing fine, can't say the same for the US current situation. Civil unrest is a dirty thing. You have my Russian regards

Probably nothing. Most of NKVD are border guard who check papers. People who issued this pistol usually dont have much ammo allowance.

@@slavsya The whole world is not US and Russia, my dear drone. But yeah, Russia should know something about civil unrest, being borderline 3rd world country owned by few people.

Revolvers

@@abdulabdanahib9617 If you want to be bloody technical, then yes, Revolvers.

Ironically, Mosin-Nagant rifle as it's called in the West is mostly Mosin, very tenuously Nagant (see appropriate C&Rsenal video or FW video). Nagant revolvers though, are pure brothers Nagant. It was their main product.

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine May be, but note - the situation with firearms in Russia was never like that in USA. Even in NKVD they had no a great choice of guns, didn't think about that too much and used what they were given. So not gun owners, bur state employed gun designers decided what oficers should have in their shoulder holsters. The most notable state employed specialists, who developed sound surpressors in Russia were Mitin brothers and Gurevich. All of them started their experiments with Nagant revolvers /full size/ and ordinary, classic sound surpressons, however very soon they developed their designs much farther then that. Mitin brothers stàrted to make silensers of their design for Mosin Nagant rifles only. Gurevich begun to experiment with guns sealed cartridges and soon started to produce original silensed revolvers and ammo of his own design.

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Ian had lost his chance to come to Russia, when he was visiting Finland and was in some 4 hours drive from Sanct Petersburg.The Artillery museum in Sanct Petersburg /Russia/ has the biggest in Europe and the second in the world collection of firearms /in terms of number of items/...

Urrah,

that guy used intestine torture

I've read that tankers who were issued the Nagant in WW2 (it was useful for shooting through the pistol ports in the side of the turrent) frequently used sticks or the pistol's cleaning rod for just this function.

Are your cases splitting?

They do bulge slightly but none have split so far. I think I have to say that even though my pistol was made in 1941 It is an Arsenal refurbishment so the condition is excellent.

"Roleplay sessions where we played NKVD personnel" what

@@zelpyzelp a pen and paper role play in which we played as NKVD agents

I had no idea, and I feel stupid for not knowing. Of course it makes sence. I remember as a kid (when soviet athletes wore the letters) I tried to figure out what "CCCP" stood for, but it didn't occur to me that the letters were Cyrillic. Thank you for pointing it out.

Could you please expand on this, were your relatives on the deportation lists?

Unlike most revolvers, if the muzzle was pressed against the target it was pretty quiet. I don't think that I have ever heard of a WWII or earlier Soviet suppressed weapon.

Actually the gas seal does have an noticeable effect. (not a perfect test but the difference is signifigant) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u4MqgIVh9zc.html

Also in Sniper Elite 4!

Weren't the "bolos" cut down C96's?

But with BraMit it would be whisper.

@@drdnout more like internal screaming

If it told us anything, it'd have to kill us.

Which book?

*Hunt Showdown humming music plays while equipping the Nagant officer on a hunter*

Was looking for you brother

@@adamradziwill butthurting belorussian migrant detected.

Боло Маузер заказывали не "для НКВД", а потому что немцы были единственные, кто торговал оружием с советами, а немцам можно было производить только пистолеты с короткими стволами