"No Major Is USELESS"  

A good education in a field that pays well or is important is great. Getting stuck in life long debt is the scam part.

Hes right. No major is useless.... the issue is getting a philosophy degree at an out of state university for 200k over 4 years when you couldve done community college and in state for 1/8 the price.

He didn’t debunk anything. Destiny based his opinion on the value of purely gaining knowledge and the other guys were basing their opinion on income.

Unless your degree is in STEM or some specialized field, college isn't teaching you how to do your job. That's what job training is for. College is there to teach you those other skills that employers want that show you're a person that can be trained. Critical thinking, completing shit on time, gathering/applying information, working with other people, etc. You can get all of those without going to college but then you're going to need to prove them some other way which usually means having years of job experience. Not saying college is the only path but it's a very safe, reliable path for your average person. Most people who are like "look at me. I didn't go to college and I make millions of dollars on the internet" are very exceptional and if they're honest, they should tell you that.

PWF is a huge hypocrite here: 1) He got a marketing degree, and he constantly markets himself right now. And he's making it, in an industry where you have to aggressively market yourself on multiple platforms. So clearly he learned something in marketing school. 2) He said all he did was party in school. Is that a degree's fault? No way. He should have gotten off his @$$ and networked in college. Seems like he decided to focus more on girls which... 3) PWF's college experience with partying with girls gave him his career. It's arguably the reason why he is sitting on that panel in the first place. Having a social experience living away from your parents, gaining life skills and social skills outside of the lecture halls, figuring out how to manage your time, having your own place to maintain, keeping yourself clean and fed without mommy's help... It's endless. 4) Plus right now, there's more women than men in college. So all those college women in their "prime" (according to Fresh and Fit) are literally in your dorms. It should be shooting fish in a barrel. But if for some reason that doesn't work out.... 5) Any bachelor's degree gives you eligibility for a master's degree. Get a BA in Gender Studies? Don't worry, you can get an MBA because of that degree. Realize your music degree is useless? You can get a master's in elementary education, special ed, or ESOL, which will at least get you some kind of income. Yeah, PWF is just thinking one dimensionally here. To say a college education is worthless when clearly you weren't applying yourself and making connections is just bad faith.

I wouldn't say he debunked it

I wish I had enough money to just go to school for the rest of my life. I love academia

Destiny was cleaning carpets before his twitch money

As someone, who BARELY got my bachelors degree in broadcast journalism, I’m pissed that I couldn’t find my dream job, which has forced me to branch out into other ventures. However, if it wasn’t for the hard work I put into finally graduating, I wouldn’t have the confidence to go out there and conquer the world and want to make something more of myself. The reality is, college prepares you for the real world and that’s what I’m thankful for.

Yeah those psychology/political science careers are necessary til the person is making 35k/year, in debt, and scraping to pay a studio

“No major is a useless and college is safer path to money says the college dropout arguing against people who have majors which they don’t use. You can’t make this shit up😂

If it wasn’t for the cost of education I’d agree with destiny. The ROI is a solid argument, the cost of university is insane.

Does this guy have blue hair because he too so many damn blue pills

With the advent of RU-vid and social media in general, you can grow an audience based on any topic, so I think Liberal Arts is more useful now than 3o years ago

If Acadamia's sole goal is to make money for yourself, then we failed as a society. Acadamia is to create paradigm shifts for our civilization. Expand our minds and find someone who stands out from the rest. I want a Gene Roddenberry universe, not an idiocracy. I say the biggest fix for our schools is to bring down the costs.

How is noone mentioning how college degrees are overpriced for what they are !

Going to an out of state school for psychology vs two years community college or state school for a stem degree shouldn’t even be in the same conversation.

My wife has been paying student loans off for 10+ years now for a degree she completed and has not worked a single shift in that field since getting her diploma. 100% useless.

He didn’t debunk anything.

No major is useless.... tell that to the Starbucks barrista.

Try getting a well paying job at JP Morgan or Tesla with a high school diploma.Destiny is right!

The thing even STEM degrees, particularly Tech, is oversaturated and barely anyone is hiring entry-level right outta college.

I have a bsc in menchanical engineering and am currently unemployed, maybe mostly my fault, but from experience even STEM is pretty saturated.

very easy to be on a confy well paid position and say "yea invest in culture even if you starve cause we need artists" fucking hell

I hate how these Red Pill people say your anecdotal experience doesn't matter. But as soon as you tell to explain a point or something that say I know a guy. The guy who told his friend to start a photography business was the dumbest ish I have heard with phones today everybody is a damn photographer.

"Trade school graduates earn comparable salaries to those with a four-year degree. With a median annual salary of around $35,720, trade school jobs differ by roughly $11,180 compared to bachelor’s degree holders earning about $46,900. However, trade school programs take just two years, providing graduates with an extra two years of income, amounting to approximately $71,440. When considering the added costs and time spent in college, trade school grads can be over $140,000 ahead, bridging the income gap. " Good try destiny, but you're wrong.

I know someone who has a history major, and another colleague who has a journalism degree. They endlessly bitch about how they feel cheated knowing entry level jobs don't pay as much as they think their degrees are worth. I don't understand the disconnect. Obviously if you were a career student with little to no job experience, your employer isn't going to start you at top pay, degree or not.

i guess it depends on the mindset of the student i was the type who didn't like school because it goes against my beliefs of myself. if i naturally loved school, i would know to myself to enjoy school and learn from it so that i can have a clear and set path in life which is to become a slave to the matrix, cool however, there has always been something in me, sort of a rebel ion feel to it, probably because im a dude too, as men we have this ingrained in us but also im not really learning as much as i expected to and its just more of a memorization than learning for the future. i have forgotten 90% of what i've memorized in school and did not apply what i've learned out to the real life from it.

Destiny is 100% right most people are dumb and should really look at statistics cause college degrees have a better outcome than most other avenues

A cultural ROI? Bro college isn’t free!

Blue hair freak is right, others are blinded by their own biases

It isn't useless per se. It makes those colleges a lot of money!

For women, college is not a scam. When people say "learn a skill", they weren't talking about women. Women without degrees are shut out of job booms because they don't have anything that says they're qualified.

College is a secure path to being a Starbuck's barista for almost all my friends. The college student's "destiny" will be debt.

College is not overrated 😂 These rich people really forgot what min wage is like. Majority of people are earning near fking min wage. Those with degrees are earning substantially more. I know it seems like 20-25 is not a lot but imagine making 8-15

I wouldn’t take career or academic advice from any of these guys.

Going into debt to go to school, or get paid to be an apprentice... Tough call, lol...

Dudes can make 100k/year cutting grass. If you already have money and can pay your bills, go get that culture enhancing major. If you don't have a career, do not get into debt without a skill that pays first.

Dude is out of touch and just love to disagree with cool people. Deep self esteem issues with this guy.

The average income for those with a trade is similar to college graduates. Destiny is wrong.

Pearl lived in Milwaukee? Damn pay us a visit then

no major is useless? eh...good luck making $11/hr as a Starbucks barista after spending 102K to get your master's in gender studies

If you want to not make money on something you pay for that's called a hobby.

A safe reliable path like the trades, which doesn't get you debt and depending on the trade can get you 6 figures a year in pay

If you want to be a doctor, lawyer etc then I’d say go for college but if you don’t want to waste your time and money and get into debt then don’t go into college

No he didn't

Why would anyone care what destiny thinks?

How long had Destiny been out of Corporate America? He is out of touch. They've removed Undergrad requirements from many Corporate jobs because Educated Millennials/Gen Z have poor social skills, can't take feedback or manage properly. Not to mention they want $70k out the gate. Undergrad Degree is not a guarantee of Middle Class anymore. Meanwhile I have a useless Associates and have many reports under me with Undergrad. It will get even easier the next few years for people who just have hustle (not scam mindset).

na, destiny is wrong here. when people talking about roi, they are talking about personal financial investment, of course you need people to invest in other (cultural ) things to preserve society value. but if i pay 30k for college (university), i better think i can get 30k back in my job that dependent on my graduation certificate.

I hate to say it, but I think I agree with Destiny a bit more than the others on this one.

The first phrase of this clip trumps the whole discussion

This guy is just too contrarian. You can say "Hey there is one woman and three men on today's show" and he'll counter your statement and say, "yes but are we really on the show right now" or some weird statement just to be different. Dude, they are obviously talking about ROI when it comes to choosing a major as most people are referring to when talking about choosing a major, not some pie in the sky ROF (return on fulfilment). I mean the other guest mentioned STEM, where one can deduce that he's referring to ROI and potential career options STEM degrees can offer. It's ok to have an opinion. Buddy is just annoying.

Your best path to finding a good job is to spend those 4 years networking with people...know people, talk to people, befriend all kinds of people....then you'll end up finding a place to work that you know someone that can get you in the door. Unless it's a STEM job, just knowing someone that works at the place you want to work can be the easiest way to get in the door there...of course, you can't be a Fing idiot or anything, but if someone can vouch for you, you don't need a degree in a lot of cases. College is too damn expensive for 90% of the jobs out there.

He ended up quitting his job to manage me lol

I edit videos and I’m not making 10k a month. I do it for a film distribution company.

Poetry is definitely useless.

Trades are the go to

Woman studies isn't useless?

Gender Studies:

Heres a very simple reality Thebrich send theirbkids to college You choosing to drop ship and do online marketing instead of going to school does nothing for yourself

yes let's get educational advice from a guy who didn't get his money from going to school

To disagree with Destiny. You can learn about art, history etc... Become an expert without going to university. The RoI works both ways, the cost of university is unjustified for those things.

Basket Weaving is a real thing. 😂

He doesnt know wtf he's talkin about all he does is just argue, i can make better argument he just doesnt like when ppl dont agree with him

Destiny is a smart guy though even though you might not like some of his life decisions

Just showed up to say destiny is a shit bag. Not all degrees should cost the same.

Con artist alert. Destiny is a con artist.

I am an IT professional for 20 plus years. I'm so-called Black. (I don't subscribe to race, but many tell me it somehow keeps them down). I am a self-taught Tech School dropout with one year of attendance. I earn in the tip 10 percentile of USA workers. I mentor Mena dn wom e of all backgrounds, many of them with college degrees. I have Men and women with college degrees reach out to me for advice on how to accomplish higher levels of achievement and income. And fully 60% of the people i have worked with actually got degrees in a different field. College today is bullshit. You would do better joining a meet up, setting up a small network in your home and learning the top 10 or so tasks in the role you will be working. I actually believe that the majority of college degrees are worthless.

Gender studies 😂😂

The so called Useless Degrees i hear noted here seem to be business degrees- marketing, accounting and general business degrees. I have noted myself that the only business degrees rate as worthless. Most business owners i knew or met never had either college degrees or had college degrees in other subjects. Then again even though I became a self proprietor , I never had interest in business myself. Niormally I agree with this Destiny, most degrees are worth it. I have a BA myself and It is much better having a degree than not possessing one.

5:15 bingo lol

Destiny has little hands and arms

Knowledge is always good but many jobs don't need it, college is selling you too many course, sometimes you learn while doing your job, experienced is more important

Most people don't know what their skills are College does nothing to foster anything for the students

Colledge is a scam. In the past employers would have to pay train employees now they employee has to pay for their own training.

This is such an American problem.

College only makes sense for STEM fields ntn else. Those are the only jobs that require degrees nowadays. Do u need a degree for acting, no u dont u need talent and links. Do u need a degree to be a great artist, no u need links and talent, do u need a degree to be successful in sales and marketting, no you need links and experience those are the requirements. There are useless degrees nowadays...you require network, talent and or experience. There are so many stats that back this up. Majority of degrees nowadays apart from STEM degrees are thrown out the window once you enter the working world.