I'm here now after 2 years to see how well people predicted what was to come. I'm not denying it had a bad start but I'm also not saying it isn't redeemable. Post visions it is the game we were promised from the start and they are still adding more to it.
Are you excited about this game? We're a little too excited..IF YOU KNOW WHAT I"M SAYIIIIINNNNNN. I'm saying we're excited, ok? Cuz it seems like it's gonna be a cool game and stuff, yeah.
Windows95 basically everyone said you will never run out of things to do. But it trued out that its so repetitive. Also said that you can visit different planets but you could only visit a tiny amount of each.
this not my comment its from a another video but i quite agree that this is the story : Nada was a Korvax that was damaged in a freighter crash. Polo found Nada and managed to get it semi-functional to help with his research. The character the player is playing is a copy of the mind of the creator of the Atlas. as the race that built the Atlas left for the stars, they left the Atlas behind. The last wish of Atlas was that it's creator gave it a copy of their mind (in game lore). You are playing that copy. The Atlas has spent the intervening time "sleeping" simulating it's own universe. It suddenly wakes up to a terrifying realization, the Atlas is about to be destroyed because the star system it is in is going to be destroyed by a black hole. It has predicted those final 16 minutes with absolute precision, and in it's final 16 minutes it activates the mind of it's creator within the simulated universe to help it with it's ponderances of existence itself and to deal with the fact that it was left behind by it's creator. It is alone. it can predict those final 16 minutes with absolute clarity but cannot see beyond it's own destruction. the last thing that happens in the predicted simulation is that someone arrives and touches the glass covering Atlas' camera. It cannot see beyond, but whatever happens it knows that it will not be alone. That's all in game lore. now i'll get into some supposition. We know that the ancient Traveller sought out a signal and learned later it came from himself (herself, itself, whatever) when they go to the star system that had been torn apart and found their own ship crushed and mangled. from this we know that there is some kind of existential loop going on. I suspect that ancient Traveller (which turns out to be us, the character we are playing) went back to the system where Atlas was and was with it when it was destroyed. But wait how can a Traveller in a simulation travel back to a place that was in reality? because the simulation is reality. Reality is the simulation of the reality the simulation is in. an existential toroid. But it's more complicated than that. We know from other in game lore than each of the homeworlds of the three races: Korvax, Gek, and Vy'keen each had built their own Atlas. plugging that in lets do some more supposition. All the Atlas' are the same Atlas in different realities. because each Atlas is attempting to reproduce the reality it came from for predictive purposes, each is creating simulations. but as the Atlas is dying in the final 16 minutes, all the simulated realities start blending together and stuff from different universes start merging into each other (in game lore). The reality we are in in the game, the simulated universe is the complete merging of all other universes. The Atlas logs this merging as errors (in game lore). The Ancient Traveller can return to the system the Atlas is in because the merging of all the simulated universes IS our universe, the real universe. It's ALL real universes. The moment the Atlas is destroyed is the connection that all universes share. the simulation is reality is the simulation... ad infinitum, an existential toroid. The game is a simulation of an amalgamation of predictive simulations created by countless Atlas' that are really one Atlas. We, the player, are in a predictive simulation of the game we are playing. Imagine the confusion that a predictive computer that can perfectly predict what is about to happen must feel when it encounters a barrier beyond which no prediction applies. How might such an entity respond to that? Start back at the beginning and try again perhaps? The Atlas is stuck in a predictive loop trying find a solution which it can never find because it is attempting to predict what has already happened, not what's going to happen. It has looped all of existence without realizing it, because it's predictive simulation, in all realities, is reality in general. The Anomaly exists as an artifact of the universes merging. Polo and Nada didn't create it, they found it. the Atlas stations aren't the Atlas, they are Atlas Interfaces (different ones for each of the universes that Atlas was created in). The Anomaly exists in all universes and can be anywhere, because it IS the Atlas. The Anomaly IS Atlas within the simulation. Look at the Anomaly, and then look at the Atlas Interfaces. The Anomaly IS Atlas. The common connection between all simulations and simultaneously cause and artifact of the merging. Tinfoil hats, indeed. The sleeper whose number matches the number in the simulation at the beginning of gameplay, is the character we are playing in the simulation, who is the Ancient Traveller who returns to the world where Atlas was created, who sends out a warning that he followed and found his own ship crushed, which marks the loop we are stuck in. who ensures Atlas is not alone at the end, which causes Atlas to loop the simulation, who is a copy of the mind of the creator of the Atlas, whose very existence in the simulation is the cause for all of existence to... Exist.... What happens when we pull them out of the simulation? Emily cannot predict what is going to happen. yet she must have deduced all of this. If she is such an entity, how might she respond to the fact that she can't predict beyond a certain point? start over perhaps, begin again? and if she's determined what I've pieced together, and decides to start over to find the cause of the error, what would she want to do with that sleeper? if his existence in the simulation is the only thing keeping the loop going, and thus all of existence existing, what would she want? Would she tell us the truth what is happening? Might she lie to us? If you tell her that she doesn't HAVE to lie to us, what was her response? "You are wrong"
I'm still very worried about the objectives in the game Sure, not having any "task" to do sounds good until you realize that even if the world is open and full of possibilities, there is not much to do apart from discovering planets and collecting resources. I mean, at least the posibility to build structures, or customize their ships or build space stations would give people a reason to keep discovering resources and such. But discovering resources to buy a better ship to discover more resources does not drive a game.
the emphasis is on exploring and discovery, not necessarily objectives. they want the player to just explore rather than be ordered to do things in game :) also i think u can customize ships and weapons and also your suit but no building structures sadly.
Nadia Mary Akbar And that's fine, but exploring does not drive a game. I like the fact that there are not main objectived apart from the main one, but players need something to drive them to keep exploring, something that for them feels like an objective. So far I havent see any of that. I think you can upgrade the weapon and the ship, but they have confirmed that there is no "customization" per se.
I like to think that we will not advance to waste our lives playing video games in virtual reality, instead that when we near our death we can choose to have our mind uploaded into a internet of virtual worlds where we can live our lives for as long as it is possible to do so. I would prefer to live for hundreds of years in a virtual world after living out my life in normal reality rather than giving up and entering the void of nothingness. There may be a choice in the future, gamble with the belief that there is an afterlife, or survive for as long as you wish in a virtual world.
wel i kinda don't mind if virtual reality becomes as realistic as this world i would enjoy it too be honest we work here we meet other people we eat go to the toilet repeat repeat in a virtual world you can live freely money is not really needed as long as my body stays healthy and safe and i have people there that i know and love i would prefer the virtual world there is no downside to a virtual world except hacking but hacking is basicly just terrorism in real life and you can block that if you would try with more people though (sorry if my english is bad its not my native language and this just what i thought)
I just hope immersive virtual reality happens during our lifetime. I could be 90 and will still play it. But I'm pretty sure you read Play to Live from seeing your comment. ;p If not, go read it, you will definitely like it :D
its kind of sad though, even though your mind still exists you ourself is gone. If you put your mind into a new baby so that you could basically live again, you are destroying whatever person that would have grown up to be unless you get a mindless clone. Sort of an ethical thing, cloning human beings
Why would living out life in a virtual reality be a waste? I mean if the world looks real, feels real, and is governed by real mathematics, how is it any different from our universe which looks real, feels real, and is governed by real mathematics? Look at it this way: You live out your whole life in this universe, doing your best to make a contribution and make your life meaningful. You succeed, doing everything you wanted to do before you die. However, it turns out that our universe was a simulation in another, larger one. Would that suddenly make your accomplishments meaningless? You certainly didn't think of them as meaningless when you thought this was the real universe. Why does the universe have to be "real" (if that term can even really be truly understood) in order for your accomplishments to matter? So long as you did what you intended to do in life, why would you consider it a waste? Personally, if a virtual reality was created and that universe was far more interesting and intricate than our own, I could see the appeal of living out your life there, and wouldn't consider the people who chose to do so as though they were wasting their lives.
This is one of the most well made videos I've ever seen. You indicate points then supply actual reasoning behind the points while still keeping it entertaining. Also that thought about putting someone into VR at birth then removing it very far down the line is something I have also thought about. Very nice video!
"People could forget which reality is real" Doubt it. Games are audio and visual stimuli only. We have a few more sensory inputs than that. Maybe in the future they will have smell-o-vision.
Menygee 5000 Theoretically it would be feasible but strapping things to your face will always be less than totally convincing. Once we learn to bypass the the normal stimuli inputs (eyes and ears) and send signals directly to the brain then it will be like actual reality.
It will never cease to amaze me how much history is forgotten among people. Procedurally generated universe sims have been around for decades already. A fairly well-known (At the time and in the circles) game was Noctis IV, an indie game one-man project way, way before that was cool, which was released a full 16 years ago. Star Quest 1 was released 5 years prior. This genre is god damned ancient.
One wrong thing in this video I had to point out Treesicle. If a planet is pleasant and sunny on one side it will be identical on the other side, varying only in time of day. Planets have only a single biom.
Only in same ways, maybe not 100% if you dug through the planet to the other side. Yes that would be the same. But at the top of earth is completely different from the all that around it. Which yes, also means the bottom is very similar to the top. Just because the world is "one biome" doesn't mean that its all sunny and bright all the time. There are parts of our own planet have 24 hours of sunshine for months at a time. This yes also means that there are 24 hours of darkness other months. You aren't wrong, he isn't wrong. No one is wrong. Just not everyone is right ;) Who knows. Maybe the created the game so that there is acid rain on one section of the planet and then lovely dovey other sections. Just to mislead people. Yes I understand its all math and generated but by that understanding, its even more possible that could happen unless there are certain rules set in place for the math that prevent this from happening.
After re-purchasing this yesterday from not playing it since 2017, I saw no change at all. I spawned on a shitty planet, a gulley, surrounded by mountains, in a storm. So I logged off and joined my friend's game, and that was when it hit me: this game is meant to be played with friends. The moment I managed to repair my ship with the help of my friend, I was immediately addicted. My friend and I spent five hours just exploring the system we had spawned in, and the further I went, the more difficult it was to stop This game's story of redemption is unheard of. I applaud Hello games for making the worst, most confusing game on the planet into this masterpiece of crafting and space exploration.
yeah, I believe this style is the future of video games. in 10 years maybe someone makes a Skyrim-like RPG, but randomly generated. random buildings, random quests, random weapons. depending on the scale you make the game, it might be near impossible to tell if it was procedurally generated. I think the success of No Man's Sky could shape how we make open world games going forward. Imagine a giant studio making a procedurally generated game, not with 10 people, but with 200.
my friends and i have been thinking about a similar game as to what you just said. wouldn't that be amazing? hopefully they can. well, they can, hopefully they actually do it using a similar engine as no mans sky one day, soon, in the near feature
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lol when he was talking about distinguishing the difference, I kept hoping for a clip from inception when Dom was in the bathroom trying to spin that top lol
so the fuck what. I see repetitive landscapes every day on the face of the earth. Who fuckin cares if one mountain has different variations. who cares if a field of grass looks similar to another field of grass. a patch of dirt in Europe is the same as a patch of dirt in north America. I work by a corn field. don't they all look the same no matter where you are? Even if NMS is disappointing its refreshing change from all the canned games we have now. fuckin tired of canned ass games. im too old to be impressed by canned maps and canned stories. lmao.
I really really hope NKS lives up to the hype I really want it to, but I'm a bit worried, because it just sounds *too* good this is like everything I've ever wanted in a game: Exploration in an enormous universe
***** yes, but when you have thousasnds upon thousands of variables, rather than just "color of tree" it can seem totally unique, even the animals sounds are unique (they use a system that models the throat of a creature depending on its size and shape, then simulates what noises that throat would make
Ivan Moncure Ever played starbound? All planets are unique, with randomized monsters, environment, buildings etc. The gameplay from planet to planet is still basically the same, though. There's no "infinite gameplay". It's not like every world has their own unique game rules. You will have your tools, your ships, etc. You are still bound by the mechanics of the game. It might all be random, but it might all just be random in a very similar way. After all, if I show random noise, all of it looks the same. However, every frame is completely unique and random.
Apparantly the type of planet and whether or not it is close/far from the sun is important. Cold planets have this material, and this one can have 0 life and robots, ergo making it safe for you to mine for ever. Also you never have to see a planet. You can just be a pirate or a trader, who occasionally does that.
In case someone wants to know the planet comparison vs. Starbound: "12.667 quadrillion planets in the game currently. 422.22 quadrillion planets expected for release." So yeah. The coordinates in Starbound is like an algorithmic seed from minecraft, so it could be infinite, but it looks like they chose to keep it finite. Still a LOT more planets in No Mans Sky!!!
***** Exactly what I'm trying to say. -It's like- It can be compared to spore, except skipping right to the Space Stage. I'll admit that it's not the strongest comparison.
starbound is just the same planets and life over and over again with blocks and structures shuffled around thats basically it i still enjoy it though lol
Matthew Neel not really, everyone has the same map. sorta like no mans sky i guess, but even if you are not on multiplayer you can visit planets other people have gone to using coordinates
Very interesting video. I think games in combination with vr can change over a long period of time how we live as humans. It is quite a intriguing thought that vr can be the utopia for every individual. Imagine that at the moment you are born, you are transferred into vr in some crazy device that will also feed you and take care of you, so you never have to leave the device. Is this maybe the way to end all wars and conflicts in the world? Scare thoughts, but at the same time very interesting.
Ironically, most of Aincraid would have had to be made that way, simply because doing it manually would be so expensive as to be effectively impossible.
With photorealism, or 3D laxer scanning, maybe not so expensive. Scan one brick, then another, and onother again and againuntil you can put them together into a yard of road. Then copy and paste the shite out of it.
You know living in this reality for the last 40 years makes you appreciate the fact that VR games like no man sky and better more interesting games are coming on the rise I think this is a whole brand-new world opening up and no one can say where it will take us, definitely which ever Pill that allowed me to stay in the Matrix was the one for me;)
no mans sky has actually inspired me to learn about our own awesome world and universe and there are so many weird and unknown things that happen and exist like the wow signal and deep sea animals its crazy what's down there .and it would be a shame if the future was vr but there are just some things that vr cant do no matter what for example food and water and physical objects
Whats mind boggling to me is that the number of planets to explore in no mans sky FAR exceeds the amount of atoms in the disk itself. Like damn, thats extremely impressive to me.
omfg, I've jumped on the hype train a few months ago and i'm so excited and really worried for this game, but hopefully it'll be good because it has so much potential, I'm not salty at the creators delaying the game though, because I REALLY want this game to be really good, but how the fuck are players gonna find each other in such a big part of the universe, because this game has multiplayer, and thank god for it, there's now only even more replayability!
8:40 i hope in the future we will have a virtual reality where we could do LITERALLY anything. make a vr game, make a virtual earth, make any fictional world real etc.
Seems like minecraft would be less limited, seeing as you can actually build stuff in it. I've got a sinking feeling that even though the planets are so big each will only have one resource on it. Imagine playing minecraft where you can't place blocks and all you collect minerals for is to upgrade your armor/weapons/vehicle. (The space ship combat would be like a way more fun version of running around killing zombies) Without any kind of narrative then it's going to be so grindy.
I'm not building any hopes up. Saying that though i've wanted to see a game like this ever since i had a dream as a kid after playing too much colony wars, actually reaching one of the planets in the distance rather than hopefully flying to no avail
“Fire up the turbines, put a little kick in it Didn't wanna start this fight, but I'll finish it I don't want survivors, none of them are innocent It's my time to fly, the sky's the limit When you read a bold headline, I'll be livin' it Everything I sacrifice is significant Travel at the speed of light, I'm unlimited With no end in sight, this ride's infinite” - Iteration [DATA CORRUPTED]
Your comparing No Man's Sky to Minecraft has me thinking: what would happen to the game if they added the ability to build your own intergalactic base, even civilization, when the goal is exploration & reaching the center of the universe? Would it lead to an easier path in gathering resources and fighting to the center, or would it hinder us from our goal in exploring? Would we stay near our colony instead of going out and seeing the universe? I wonder...
ive spent a fair amount of my child life imaging that life is just a video game. Watching this video reassured me that I'm not some crazy wack and that it is quite possible that everything we see and know is just a well developed video game. this video made me feel good about myself, thank you Treesicle. Plus I'm stupid hyped for no mans sky and am super upset about its delay, ill be fine though not homicidal yet kappa XD.
