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@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
DIY Spray Foam Kit I Previously Used: amzn.to/3Pk8KS6
@mhughes1160
@mhughes1160 9 месяцев назад
After watching you and others DIY this stuff I see no benefit in doing this stuff yourself Thanks for sharing 👍
@davepost7675
@davepost7675 Год назад
The technique of spraying a patch on the ceiling then to pull it down and use it as a barrier is brilliant.
@andylupa6273
@andylupa6273 День назад
@@davepost7675 …the foam patch being pulled off the substrate when fresh/hot is what we did a lot of to close in rafter ends that did not have backups in a pinch, otherwise we pre did the backups. When something is missed the patch/pull works
@salchristiano6606
@salchristiano6606 Год назад
what a process. Loved the trick he used to seal the eaves between the rafters
@DavidBeyea
@DavidBeyea 5 дней назад
That spray man takes pride in his work. That’s hard to find nowadays
@michaelchevalier9859
@michaelchevalier9859 Год назад
Worked on the Space Shuttle External Fuel Tank Project. It was completely sprayed in close cell foam on the exterior. I think the stuff is a fantastic material to use for insulation in buildings. Very much enjoy this channel. My cousins had an ancient belt driven circular saw mill up in Maine. The whole thing collapsed one winter due to wet and heavy snow.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman Год назад
That’s sad.
@DRAGNET-pn5vf
@DRAGNET-pn5vf Год назад
I HOPE THEY RECOVERED. THANKS FOR SHARING.🇺🇲👍🏻
@michaelchevalier9859
@michaelchevalier9859 Год назад
@@DRAGNET-pn5vf It was old, mortise and tenon and pegs. It was actually powered by a Model T engine and belts. Never did hear what they might have done but they only ran it in summer. They were shipbuilders, like my dad.
@danielhanawalt4998
@danielhanawalt4998 Месяц назад
That's interesting. I didn't know that foam was used on the space shuttle. I'm wondering if NASA developed it. I live in the southeast so snow load isn't a problem. Sorry about your cousin's sawmill roof. Certainly get some big snow times up in the northern parts of the country.
@PabloP169
@PabloP169 Год назад
It's amazing how much that stuff expands.
@lamiglass1
@lamiglass1 4 месяца назад
I do spray foam for a living and always advise customers that open cell on an exterior substrate is a very bad idea. In the event something happens to the structure that would allow water infiltration the open cell foam will absorb that water where closed cell will not absorb water
@MASTER3RDEYE
@MASTER3RDEYE Месяц назад
Exactly. A roof leak, the open cell will absorb water like sponge and potentially overload the roof structure to the point of failure. Additionally, moistened closed cell could become a medium for mold growth.
@lamiglass1
@lamiglass1 Месяц назад
@@MASTER3RDEYE modern closed cell does not promote mold growth
@user-lo7cx4si6v
@user-lo7cx4si6v Месяц назад
Very educational thanks.
@andylupa6273
@andylupa6273 Месяц назад
Also ran a foam company and confirm you are absolutely correct
@Mike-zu9ke
@Mike-zu9ke Месяц назад
question... say you have closed cell on roof or exterior and a nail gets poked through and then removed.. for whatever reason.... will the closed cell seal that leak if water got in?
@deanwilliams93
@deanwilliams93 Год назад
You are such a joy to listen to. The way the explanations are handled are special, Nathan, Start a class on being southern polite.
@jamessanders8050
@jamessanders8050 Год назад
Thanks Nathan for showing the foam insulation video that really makes big difference on temperature of your shop .
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 Год назад
Nathan, good decision to have them install the foam insulation above the shop. You also will notice difference for heating and cooling. Great shop for generations.
@rickrowley3308
@rickrowley3308 Год назад
cleanest foam trailer Ive ever seen. Easy to see theses guys care about their work.
@BCDanno63
@BCDanno63 Год назад
Checked out their address on Google earth .they’re not a fly by night outfit by any means…
@yanbaihuzxzxzx
@yanbaihuzxzxzx 4 месяца назад
That's one way to look at a company, see if the rig is messed up, but also they might have just bought it.
@davewallace.8303
@davewallace.8303 Год назад
That spray foam process is almost hypnotic! Couldn’t get enough!
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 Год назад
Great job Nathan, very well installed and cleaned up after and a reasonable price too. Now when you get everything put back together and get busy in there then you'll be happy too. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
@ronnielloyd4514
@ronnielloyd4514 Год назад
It’s so impressive to watch the insulation being installed. I’m sure you will enjoy this for many years and will be more healthier for you. Nice work!!
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 Год назад
That will make a world of difference for your Mr. Cool. I put closed cell in my shop ceiling and in the walls before I started building it out. Even without the mini split, It was evident how much the improvement was. Bill
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Nice 👍
@thalgott3
@thalgott3 Год назад
There is something so satisfying about watching this process...
@bobblossom2713
@bobblossom2713 Год назад
open cell does not have vapor barrier properties, but closed cell should have a higher R value per inch and provide vapor barrier characteristics.
@BretWaltonDrums
@BretWaltonDrums 2 месяца назад
Amazing how quickly it dries yet is malleable enough to remove from overhead and placed on the backside of the fascia. The technology is INCREDIBLE. Thanks for the great video!
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 2 месяца назад
Yes, exactly
@dmorgan28
@dmorgan28 Год назад
Nathan it sounds like you got a good deal. We just had our house done and it really makes a difference. Cool video. 👍❤️
@stevenweir7236
@stevenweir7236 Год назад
I've done roofing with polyurethane spray foam and elastomeric coatings. It's like putting down a seamless roof. Great stuff.
@slonefactor
@slonefactor Год назад
I had them spray my wood working shop 50x60 side walls and ceiling plus heated floors with central air and friend it makes it alot more enjoyable to work in there.
@jeffreyshier9021
@jeffreyshier9021 Год назад
Very satisfying to watch.
@Tscaperock
@Tscaperock Год назад
Prep is great 👍 the installation is top notch! That is fantastic!
@jimpowell9205
@jimpowell9205 Год назад
I’m just south of you, I too had a professional (out of Knoxville), to spray ‘closed cell’, on all exterior walls (I removed the sheetrock). Also the open-beam ceiling in the master bedroom. Wow, what a difference! Best investment I’ve made, to our house…..
@refurbansuburban
@refurbansuburban Год назад
It warms my heart.
@bwillan
@bwillan Год назад
The other reason to hire the pros for just about anything, is the speed at which they can finish the job. I suspect that job didn't take more than a half day to complete.
@yekcim66
@yekcim66 Год назад
It’s a real skill and it looks great
@jrmintz1
@jrmintz1 Год назад
Fascinating! I was wondering how they were going to do the ends of the joist bays. What a clever solution. I have to look into this for my house - it's from the 1940's and the attic is uninsulated. I think it's time.
@bobwollard9105
@bobwollard9105 Год назад
It's always enjoyable to watch craftsmen at work. Your shop will definitely be more comfortable to work in. And the foam helps to deaden sound as well. Good choice, Mr. Elliot.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman Год назад
Agreed 100%
@heknows5418
@heknows5418 Год назад
Had this done when I finished second story , been 4 years now the best thing I could have ever done
@Handirifle
@Handirifle 4 месяца назад
Wow that stuff expands like crazy. Loved how he closed off the eves.
@jerrybriscoe4735
@jerrybriscoe4735 Год назад
That’s so cool I can watch your videos all day long nice job.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Thanks 👍
@bentsprockettech
@bentsprockettech 10 месяцев назад
Very cool! Thanks for sharing all of this with us. I need to put up some insulation myself and this is very helpful. :)
@LastCall534
@LastCall534 Месяц назад
That's a reasonable price in my opinion. I'm definitely going to use those guys when I'm ready, very professional. They're in my neck of the woods, so to speak lol. Thanks for the video!
@jesseking2368
@jesseking2368 Год назад
I had the same thing done at my old place. 20x40 at 12' up. Prices were all over the place. Think I paid $1,600 at the time and was happy to do it. After a lot of looking, you can't do it yourself cheaper. You could heat that shop with a match just about. I miss that shop! I would love to have my new place foamed.
@nadineweiler7747
@nadineweiler7747 Год назад
That process was just crazy😛but watching it was amazing!!
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Glad you liked it!!
@kevdimo6459
@kevdimo6459 Год назад
Well done Nathan it’s done now and you can reap the benefits of their knowledge and skills. By the way it reminded me of a Tsunami working it’s way across the ceiling! 🌊🌊🌊
@fredbrooks8347
@fredbrooks8347 Год назад
Will you cover the foam to hide the foam? That stuff is amazing. I love to do it yourself with a lot stuff. BUT sometimes the time saved, the knowledge of experts, the experience they have and the muscle energy saved just makes better sense. Again Thanks.
@Cjnchef
@Cjnchef Год назад
Excellent price. You can hear the difference. No reverb of sound
@deanmills5106
@deanmills5106 Год назад
I thoroughly enjoy your channel and yes that is a great value
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@jimbecker5675
@jimbecker5675 Год назад
Surprised you opted for open cell as it doesn't have the vapor permeability and structural stiffness benefits of closed cell. Closed cell is also R7-7.5 per inch while open cell is about R3-3.5 per inch. But perhaps there was a reason that the contractor recommended it for your specific job. Regardless, you're going to notice a huge difference in comfort as you already note in the video.
@thenickboy
@thenickboy Месяц назад
I heard open cell allows the wood to allow moisture thru so the wood doesn't rot underneath the foam. That's a big problem for these foam installations, so it has to be the right type or the wood rots in a few years
@danielhanawalt4998
@danielhanawalt4998 Месяц назад
The ceiling in my little shop is the underside of the tin roof. In the summer the heat radiates straight down. Feels like an oven and in winter the heat from the heater goes straight out the roof. After watching this video I'm going to do this. Tried fiberglass insulation and wound up with a large family of rats in the ceiling. Not doing that again. lol.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 Месяц назад
Isn't it just the opposite? That open cell is the one with moisture permeability? Permeable means subject to.
@williamlewis9350
@williamlewis9350 Год назад
Recently had my 18x40 shop sprayed. You got a heck of a good deal.
@im3sixty
@im3sixty Год назад
So satisfying to watch
@oofda10
@oofda10 Год назад
Great video! Knew of the process but never saw it applied Thanks
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
You bet!
@hillbillyfranks
@hillbillyfranks Год назад
That's a nice job I like that I'll catch you on the next one
@Woodburner100
@Woodburner100 Год назад
I was thinking while you did the first batch that it might have been better to get the professional grade and have it sprayed by the professional crews. I’ve done some of my own like you did and it worked ok but it’s not the same by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve had contractors do lots of it on pipeline construction for ditch-bottom support on tie-ins at bores under roads etc. That stuff is amazing and is dry to touch within seconds. It provides support under the pipe so when it’s backfilled the weight of the dirt doesn’t put strain on the pipe.
@bubbakemp5817
@bubbakemp5817 Год назад
You named two good reasons to hire the professional guys. The number three reason, for me would be time! I'm sure I would have been able to do it probably four or five hours more than they did! Time is money! God bless!
@sandragee2864
@sandragee2864 Год назад
Number 4 reason is that you won’t have visits to the chiropractor for neck pain. I was impressed at how fast the foam spraying was. The value was in the time spent in prep work of covering things with plastic and cleaning afterward.
@jcnme
@jcnme Месяц назад
This Spray Tech did a Absolutely Beautiful Job 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😍
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Месяц назад
I think so too!
@bartbley1269
@bartbley1269 Год назад
If you make more or the same doing your work . don't stop your work to do theirs. As pros they will do it faster and usually better . I've tried the DIY in lots of projects. The projects were good but it took 4 times as long . Seen a dry wall taper and Mudder make magic one day the craftsmanship was a show of wonder . WOW
@integr8er66
@integr8er66 3 месяца назад
This is a good argument if, two things, you have unlimited work opportunities, AND you like doing your professional work enough to do it all the time, oh and one more thing I forgot, if you do your work and get paid you pay taxes on that and then have less money with which to pay them. If you DIY the tax man gets left out of the game. Lastly its not even 50% of the time that the guy I hire does better work than I do, at anything. They are there to get in and out as fast as possible.
@slkgeothermal
@slkgeothermal Год назад
Great decision to use open cell on the roof and to have a pro installer do it. You had said, open cell at your application level was equivalent to R19, I believe. There is an additional R value to using spray foam that is hard to verify but I have seen over time as an HVAC contractor. My experience has been; "Real R value" is much higher; I believe it to be R 30 or better because of the UV rejection with the encapsulated roof or better yet the whole structure. I like to see that you built your shop with old school sawed lumber and covered it with new day foam "-)
@NSResponder
@NSResponder Год назад
I always found this a fascinating technology. Better living through chemistry!
@Z-Bart
@Z-Bart Год назад
A galvanized steel spring curry horse comb works well to scrape off any high spots on your ceiling joists. If you plan on paneling in the future.
@Makete100
@Makete100 Год назад
I was wondering about how to do that. I was thinking about a huge wire cheese slicer. LOL.
@johnblake3863
@johnblake3863 Год назад
Congratulations. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting!
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@SilverBack.
@SilverBack. Год назад
Nathan it looks Great, I have heard people say that it is not good for you but not found any proof. Keep up the Great video's Please
@swampy1584
@swampy1584 Год назад
I love to watch people who know what they are doing
@jameschupp2230
@jameschupp2230 Год назад
The did a Excellent Job for you!!!
@johnsonsinsulation
@johnsonsinsulation 3 месяца назад
This spray foam is so satisfying😀
@mikemuniak4711
@mikemuniak4711 Год назад
That's is cool how that stuff works
@shadeTreeWorks
@shadeTreeWorks Год назад
Good stuff. When I did my shop, a local company quoted me cheaper for 3-1/2" closed cell walls and 5" open cell ceiling than I could have actually bought the diy kits for. I was instantly sold. 2 years later still no regrets.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Good stuff!
@gtfg3800
@gtfg3800 7 месяцев назад
I had a professional company spray the purple closed cell around the sill plate of my house using the full-sized drums you saw here. Initially, they were going to use kits but after seeing the size of the job called in their foam truck & applied closed cell purple foam. They said it was much cheaper, faster & did a better job than the kits. Watched many videos on the small kits & it looks tedious & nowhere as nice as professionally installed foam.
@fricknjeep
@fricknjeep Год назад
hi there that was interesting thanks for showing it , john
@BCDanno63
@BCDanno63 Год назад
Was Wonderin’ how they’d fill Those daylight gaps in the soffit areas .. Great the way they can manufacture a sheet then stuffit in the Gap and use it as a base to go right over…so many ways to play with that stuff….
@chris222233
@chris222233 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic deal!
@kimmclaughlin7752
@kimmclaughlin7752 Год назад
Was that a mr kool air cond/split I saw in your shop prior to the installation? Saw another you tuber put in one 2 weeks ago and they love it. Just being snoopy wondering if it was one and is it installed yet? I need one and the 36,000 unit is what I’m thinking about. Love your videos and now have my wife watching also.
@hambonewilliams4783
@hambonewilliams4783 Год назад
Thanks for saying how much I have wondered . 16:13
@justjane2070
@justjane2070 Год назад
That was interesting! Looked like some kind of alien growth 😂
@jameslemon51
@jameslemon51 Год назад
So if your happy then Job Well Done.😎🤠😄👍
@evankibbe590
@evankibbe590 Год назад
😊nice nice that's a lot of r value 😊👍👍👍👍
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
Very!
@DavidDCD999
@DavidDCD999 Год назад
Looks good.
@theyinkler1866
@theyinkler1866 8 месяцев назад
Oh I see your a festool man, best tools ever built in my opinion
@iain1969
@iain1969 Год назад
Looks like they did a terrific job. Are you lining the ceilings and walls to encapsulate the insulation? Thanks as always for the video.
@animes2k
@animes2k Год назад
It would be a good idea. I think it either needs a fire resistant coating or some sort of paneling/drywall to be up to code in a house. Not sure if that applies in a workshop.
@dundeeecroc
@dundeeecroc 11 месяцев назад
WOW!! impressive!!
@thomasallen3818
@thomasallen3818 Год назад
5 inches of open cell foam has an R value of 19, whereas 3 inches of closed cell foam has an R value of 21. I had my steel barn sprayed with 3 inches of closed cell foam and installed a mini split HVAC unit and it stays 72° inside with the unit set at 73°.
@jefferykeller2995
@jefferykeller2995 Год назад
Very nice. Just wondered, if you were going to insulate the area behind the dust collector?
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Год назад
My gosh man that stuff is AMAZING and well worth the $$$$$$ money.....Thanks Nathan 🙏👍 Shoe🇺🇸
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Год назад
👍
@deniscarter6613
@deniscarter6613 Год назад
It makes people think about insulation in the workshop or even the house
@CraigGrant-sh3in
@CraigGrant-sh3in Год назад
One of the differences between closed and open foam is , close cell foam doesn't absorb water\moisture (thing camping sleeping pad ) where open does absorb moisture\water (thing couch cushions ) The other difference is density . Closed is denser\firmer . I'm guessing the properties between these spray in foams are similar though, I'm not a RU-vid content provider LOL
@treystills
@treystills Год назад
Unfortunately open-cell spray foam is a poor choice for roof decks. Opened cell is vapor permeable meaning moisture carried by air will infiltrate the foam and "ping pong" up to the highest point in the roof deck (usually the ridge). This roof may experience ridge rot within 3-5 years. A way to avoid this is to spray at least 2 inches of closed cell foam then spray open over it.
@zuzupetalskaiathegermanshe2910
@zuzupetalskaiathegermanshe2910 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video! Going to do this on my cabin, on bedrooms... very similar ceiling/roof situation! But I would love to see how they trimmed it off the rafters and evened out high spots (low spots, I suppose) in case you want to install a ceiling.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 9 месяцев назад
Great suggestion!
@Eric_B
@Eric_B 9 месяцев назад
@@OutoftheWoods0623it was more of a question, not a suggestion
@raykotterer2977
@raykotterer2977 10 месяцев назад
that' was a great price, I'm in northwest Indiana and i have a room 30 x 15 and was told it would cost $7000
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 28 дней назад
Great video. A couple questions please? Is there a structural concern with a spray foam? Some people told me that it can hinder the expansion and retraction of the wooden structure possibly damaging it. Second, do you recommend to put in an air chamber before spraying it?
@WolfgangR75
@WolfgangR75 Год назад
Ur Tools an isolation are so different....but very interesting..
@JohnathanAulabaugh
@JohnathanAulabaugh 4 месяца назад
I had an estimate for spray in 2022 for an upcoming project 1543sqft ceiling and walls was $2200. Finally had got to start in 2023 and asked for the ceiling only on the same project and it was $3500 from the same company..
@georgeescaped6035
@georgeescaped6035 Год назад
looks like they sprayed marshmallow on the ceiling!! that stuff is pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 2 месяца назад
Open cell foam allows moisture to escape while closed cell foam will cause condensation to accumulate on surfaces and mold will form if the room is too tightly sealed. My grandfather taught me about this in detail because quite frankly I don’t understand why the building codes are set up quite the way they are with vapor barriers(the initial conversation) because whether the vapor barrier is on the inside or the outside of the insulation doesn’t seem to make any functional difference to me, but I am not an expert. Closed cell foam acts as a vapor barrier as well as insulation, so you can’t use it on walls AND ceiling, but you could use it on the walls but use open cell on the ceiling to allow moisture to escape. The easiest way to remember the difference between open cell foam and closed. Cell phone is to think of the big blocks of foam under a dock; those are made of closed cell foam so they will never get waterlogged. Closed cells are similar to a bunch of individual little balloons each trapping air. Open Cell foam is like a kitchen sponge.
@rogerstepp3240
@rogerstepp3240 Год назад
That price is a great value . Been wondering myself about cost .
@markwallace3181
@markwallace3181 Год назад
If the foam would have been closed cell, ya good idea. Open cell isn’t great as it isn’t as good a vapor barrier and it doesn’t do good with water. Problem with open cell and a ceiling is if it leaks your in big trouble. Closed cell actually seals the ceiling and will keep the water out or if it does come in, water has zero affect on closed cell. Problem with closed cell is it’s more expensive, you paid 1,800 for that, would have been probably closer to 3,000 for closed cell.
@handytbutler7380
@handytbutler7380 6 месяцев назад
Well I hope you put up fire board, foam is very flammable
@fondadeen1164
@fondadeen1164 Год назад
Oh that worked great
@garrytalley8009
@garrytalley8009 10 месяцев назад
I think that DIY most likely costs more for large jobs as well. I have a metal building and will be going with closed cell. I will be having the ceiling done to keep from sweating. I am thinking about the walls as well but am giving it more thought because I still need to run electrical and may want to finish it off later. Much thought has to go into the job than just do it. I am happy that you like your job, but I think it's pretty ugly to look at even if it works. Thanks for sharing.
@marklapierre5629
@marklapierre5629 Год назад
Maybe I'll do that in my shed.
@jameschupp2230
@jameschupp2230 Год назад
That is an very reasonable price... Probably the average going rate is $3.00 - 3.50 for 5" Open Cell... Depending on the access...
@bt8143
@bt8143 7 месяцев назад
I went through the "froth-pack" trials too! What a joke for me! Ended up paying $700 for my 40x8 container ceiling and walls, closed cell! I'll never try it again.
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 3 месяца назад
Closed cell should be on the celing I would have installed 2" closed cell in the rafters came back over it with closed cell. You cant go by R value also i would have put 1x1 in each rafter to hold the foam board off the bottom of the roof deck and made sure air could flow behind it with soffit vents and rige vent , Then put on closed cell around the edges , this stuff has to be covered If it catches on fire the fumez are deadly.
@armageddonready4071
@armageddonready4071 28 дней назад
I bought a roll of heavy duty aluminum foil from Sams club and put in between the studs before the spray. It makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 28 дней назад
Interesting
@armageddonready4071
@armageddonready4071 27 дней назад
It will reduce your cell phone availability inside, but well worth it. Probably helps with other stuff I haven’t discovered yet. Also, take the top if of aluminum cans, then stuff with cob mud and sand then stack them between the studs inside the walls. Thermal mass and reflective. If you use these in videos, don’t forget my ten percent. I don’t know how to do videos, but I’ve got tons of things for some open source inventions for off grid life.
@charliemurphy2523
@charliemurphy2523 Год назад
Noticed the canopy for you miter saw. Can you tell me where you got it from, thanks??
@integr8er66
@integr8er66 3 месяца назад
I do agree that on this stuff it does not pay off to DIY, the price we pay for a DIY kit is just too high compared to the price they pay in bulk.
@peternewman9713
@peternewman9713 Год назад
Hi Nathan! Are you going to line the ceilings?
@BoopyBopper
@BoopyBopper Месяц назад
Tip: Add a barrier and spacing between roof deck and spray foam.
@James.......
@James....... Год назад
That looks great. Are you going to install more old barn metal on the ceiling in there?
@jamesmandeville3523
@jamesmandeville3523 Год назад
I was gonna ask the same. That stuff will get real dirty and dusty.
@2naturesownplace
@2naturesownplace Год назад
@N8 did I see a blade/edge sharpener on the floor?
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