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No Pain All Gain with Amelia Vrabel 

Floris Gierman
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Amelia Vrabel is a Senior Certified Instructor at ChiRunning / ChiWalking. She has trained and worked with Danny Dreyer, Founder of ChiRunning/Chi Walking. Amelia is also an active member of the Marathon PR Program and the Extramilest Community. It has been very exciting to follow her running progress over time.
We discuss the things she has learned over the years, as an athlete and running coach.
When she started out with low heart rate training, she had to slow down a lot, from a 9 min / mile to (5:35 min / km) to a 14 min / mile (8:40 min / km). There was and still is some walking involved in her workouts, especially where she lives at altitude, in hilly Colorado. We discuss her mindsets and strategies for training and racing.
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* ChiRunning WorkShops - www.chirunning.com/find-a-wor...
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* Two Week Test - philmaffetone.com/2-week-test/
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* Marathon PR Program: extramilest.com/marathon/
* Final Surge training tool - www.finalsurge.com/
* Elevate for strava - thomaschampagne.github.io/ele...
* UCAN nutrition - www.generationucan.com/
* Garmin Phoenix watch - amzn.to/2Z6ml34
* Garmin HRM Run - amzn.to/2sQsrbF
* Garmin HRM Tri - amzn.to/34G4n8O
* Garmin HRM Soft Strap - amzn.to/2sIKaSu
* Danny Dreyer - extramilest.com/25
SHOW NOTES
* Amelia’s background as a runner [4:00]
* How Amelia’s mom peer pressured her into running the Boston Marathon [8:05]
* How Amelia’s approach to running has changed over time [8:50]
* Amelia’s first experience with ChiRunning and why she didn’t initially practiced it. [10:20]
* The importance of learning how to walk well before you run + the walk / run workouts [15:50]
* Learning to relax more to go faster [18:30]
* What her first experience with low heart rate training and the 2 week test was like [19:10]
* How Amelia deals with frustrations when having to slow down significantly with low heart rate training [24:10]
* How she uses hills to mix up her routes and speed [27:00]
* Amelia trains a lot in cold winter conditions, this is how she deals with it [32:00]
* Importance of having the right winter gear with different layers of clothes [34:20]
* Buying a pair of waterproof shoes and wool socks was a game changer [36:10]
* Other winter running essentials: gloves, mittens, hand warmers, hat, buffs to keep face warm [37:50]
* How Amelia warms up with 5 minute walking and jogging to MAF -20 for 10 minutes [38:40]
* The type of speedwork Amelia integrates in her training [42:45]
* The thought process about running (or not running) longer than 2.5 hours to train before a marathon [46:30]
* What was Amelia’s experience like training as a ChiRunning / ChiWalking instructor with Danny Dreyer [51:00]
* Importance of correct arm swings for efficient running [54:00]
* Garmin HRM Run monitor that shows left right balance clearly [56:00]
* Optical heart rate monitor vs chest strap [59:40]
* The recommendations Amelia would give her younger runner version of herself [1:01:40]
* The misunderstanding about the value of real easy running [1:02:40]
* Any other recommendations for others runners looking to improve [1:04:10]
* Why No Pain No Gain doesn’t work and how to go about training instead [1:06:00]
* When running starts to become a stress, it’s time to take a step back [1:08:10]
* What’s next running-wise for Amelia [1:09:00]
* Final thoughts from Amelia to improve as a runner [1:13:10]
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Комментарии : 81   
@johngardner1898
@johngardner1898 4 года назад
I like how you bring on non-elite athletes who offer significantly more value because they are interesting and share their real world experiences. Amelia's stories about running in cold weather are fabulous. Great interview. Thanks Amelia!
@agnidas5816
@agnidas5816 3 года назад
most every 'popular' podcast has the guests pay a lot of money to promote themselves to be able to appear on the show. That is how those work. This guy invites people because he genuinely wants to talk not pure for a paycheck or to promote a book. It really does make a world of difference when there is a real conversation... it is obvious when it's just about selling a book (looking at you Rich ..)
@Amanda.c91
@Amanda.c91 3 года назад
YES fasted looooong runnnss at low hr!!! Total ZEN, the highest high. Makes me incredibly grateful for learning about this!!!!
@luigia9173
@luigia9173 4 года назад
Great episode!!! I’ve been doing this maffetone method couple of months and I can see some improvement! From 11 or 11:30 pace drop to 10:00 to 10:30 pace. And lost 27lbs and feeling really great! I’m very excited on my very first half marathon on January 2020! Thank you floris your videos are very inspiring and informative!
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Excellent, very great progress already both in weight loss and pace improvements. Glad you're enjoying the videos. Keep it up Luigi, you're doing great!
@Meritumas
@Meritumas 3 года назад
Luigi A good luck Luigi!
@simongunnarsson701
@simongunnarsson701 3 года назад
My new favorite youtube channel! Thank you. Finally a normal guy who's passionate about running. No "Hey Guys!" weird intros ☺
@AnandMarar
@AnandMarar 3 года назад
She is amazing.. So down to earth..It is awesome when you bring such people on your show...They deserve to be on such platforms
@globerunning1437
@globerunning1437 4 года назад
Thanks for the podcast Floris.. Good job!!
@burillakcsaba
@burillakcsaba 4 года назад
No pain, just gain, I would say. Nice episode. Long term thinking is really important because everything starts with the mental things. You have to make up your mind what is your goal. You may run a couple of times a week, easy and relaxing without high expectations. You can also have "more serious" goals like running a certain distance within X amount of time. You need to see realistically what is necessary to achieve your goal and not what you can commit with your best effort. I think if you have the dedication and commitment, you only have to go along your way and put in the work needed. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Amelia and thanks Floris to organize this interview!
@LesDow
@LesDow 4 года назад
Such a great episode. Has helped me because I'm just getting over sciatica and I've been stressing about getting the necessary training in before my first marathon at the end of May. Well, I'm not gonna stress no more and just take it easy now, whether I'm able to walk or run to get the miles in before then. Thanks to both of you.
@mirandachitty3790
@mirandachitty3790 3 года назад
Found it in the excellent show notes. Thank you Floris. I’ve left a review in Apple podcasts too.
@jg5555
@jg5555 3 года назад
Fantastic interview - learned a lot from this. Thanks Amelia & Floris!
@samueljamespillar
@samueljamespillar 4 года назад
Great episode, thanks guys.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Thank you Sam, glad you enjoyed it!!
@danstarcevich5531
@danstarcevich5531 4 года назад
What a great episode! Like Amelia I also live in a mountainous area of Colorado except I am at 7,500 feet. So, it was great to hear of someone else running at 14 minute pace. Thanks for your work Floris and Amelia's willingness to make herself available. I find your podcasts to be both educational and motivational. Keep up the great work.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Wow living at 7500 feet is high, must be beautiful where you live. Altitude always impacts my heart rate significantly as well. Glad you enjoyed the episode! 👍
@vacationmode6286
@vacationmode6286 Год назад
Great Interview! I am just getting into chi running in the last month and starting MAF -- appreciate all the positive stories to keep me going!
@jarredlong8307
@jarredlong8307 Год назад
Great work over der. Love your show
@andrewpearson8216
@andrewpearson8216 3 года назад
Great stuff Floris, enjoy your shows. As a nurse involved in rehabilitation using low heart rate training just makes a lot of sense, regardless of the injury, illness or insult the body has suffered. It just makes sense that if low heart rate training is good for us in these cases why not just more of it and only when you feel like it!
@jeffkoll4002
@jeffkoll4002 4 года назад
Floris, Thanks for your videos. I have found all of your content to be very helpful on my training journey.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Happy to hear that Jeff, thank you!! All the best on your training journey
@jonathancoburn9127
@jonathancoburn9127 Год назад
A great interview with some sound advice on training and insight into a good mental approach to training. Thank you for your suggestions ❤
@GooglePhD
@GooglePhD 4 года назад
Thank you for this. This reminds me to Get more into chi running because I can relate, injuries
@robertbausa1
@robertbausa1 4 года назад
Another great interview! I appreciate all of the golden nuggets throughout. I ran a half marathon tuneup race a couple weeks ago and realize I’ve had a hard time coming back to true MAF. Time to slow the roll so I’m healthy and ready for my first marathon in Houston just 4 weeks from now.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Barry Roberts glad to hear that, exciting times ahead. Have fun racing Houston!!
@Mighty727
@Mighty727 Год назад
Awesome thanks!
@andybrady2964
@andybrady2964 3 года назад
As ever, a really great episode. Well worth watching.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@alfredoflash
@alfredoflash Год назад
Great episode 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@bev8200
@bev8200 Год назад
I’m 50 pounds overweight and every time I do my 10 mile run my left knee swells. Tried the chi running she was talking about and I ran faster and no swelling. Thanks
@goldmouse72
@goldmouse72 3 года назад
Great content, thanks! One comment: your pace conversions (to min/km) on the video captions are off in two sections. They are correct on the notes though.
@sherwinmoscow9455
@sherwinmoscow9455 2 года назад
I have listened to several interviews, and have enjoyed them all. As a result, I have gotten more acquainted with the Maffetone method, and am researching how to move forward with the process of becoming a runner, something I have wanted to do for years, but have not had a good idea from how to get from where I am to where I want to be.
@MrHubiker
@MrHubiker Год назад
Good one!
@seangillespie93
@seangillespie93 Год назад
I have learned so much from this channel.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman Год назад
Happy to hear that Sean! More videos dropping soon.
@jinaseverinsen98
@jinaseverinsen98 Год назад
Thank you for addressing the 14 minute-mile pace. I went from a “slow steady” 11.5 minute pace to a MAF pace of 14.5 minutes per mile. It’s a very awkward pace: a combination of lightly jogging, speed walking and just walking. One month in and it’s still awkward and frustrating, though not as bad as it was when I started. You give me hope.
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 Год назад
How do u work with ur heart rate monitor? I thinking either get a treadmill with heart rate controls or a garmin.
@dirtridergrandpa5873
@dirtridergrandpa5873 3 года назад
For me running at a low heart rate makes it more enjoyable and allows me to run longer distance without pain and long lasting fatigue. I expect both my time and distance to improve. Thanks for all your podcast etc. It has really helped me out as a newer 60 year old runner!
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 3 года назад
Happy to hear that, keep it up!
@crcaccounts
@crcaccounts 4 года назад
Assuming one does similar workouts day to day, is the MAF test necessary as it seems redundant? Suppose I run 10k 5 days a week @ a HR of 140bpm could I not just compare my run times month to month and get the same feedback on improvement?
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 года назад
Great interview! I just want to suggest a minor yet possibly crucial caveat: those 13-minute miles are at 7000' with lots of hills! I can attest that on the flat at sea level you would be many minutes faster (as you are in races) From another mountain runner.....Cheers!
@ameliavrabel2125
@ameliavrabel2125 4 года назад
Thank you! Yes for me I find I'm about 30-45s/mi faster on similar terrain at sea level. But it is difficult to compare exactly because when I'm at sea level I'm usually on short trips and the travel itself can be stressful and thereby has an effect on HR. I do know that living at altitude makes sea level running feel easier, which is a nice benefit in itself.
@JohnSmith-mt5ok
@JohnSmith-mt5ok Год назад
Apple review done :)
@ramamoorthyh
@ramamoorthyh 4 года назад
I am 48. Started serious running this year. Never bothered about low heart rate training and did a half marathon on December-1 this year at 2:34:40 @ 7'17"/km. After doing half, started low heart rate runs with max heart set at 137. Struggling with run walk and now it's about 9'45"/km and still I have to walk significant distances. This started just three weeks ago. It's real struggle to keep heart rate down.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Ramamoorthy H very normal, especially if you started running this year. I'd also look at stress levels, nutrition, rest / recovery / sleep, to make sure the other areas are under control as well. Patience surely is key
@davidosolo
@davidosolo 4 года назад
Don´t give up. It will probably work out fine but stick with it.
@corwynwarwaruk6807
@corwynwarwaruk6807 4 года назад
Relax more to run faster... so true! When I just relax it’s a lot easier to run, easier on my body, & just feels better!
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Spot on, it really can make a big difference, especially in the later stages of a race as well 👍
@corwynwarwaruk6807
@corwynwarwaruk6807 4 года назад
Floris Gierman i find I tense up when I think I am tired & ready to quit. I then get into a relaxing zone & let my legs move, I drop my shoulders & get rid of the tension. I find this point really relaxing in a “I am exhausted” kind of way. The worries of the day just disappear!
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
@@corwynwarwaruk6807 very well said. Glad you've found something that's working well for you!
@morton2200
@morton2200 4 года назад
I'm 49 and started running regularly a year ago (I've been a low-level competitive cyclist and mtb racer for years so fitness base was good - I thought). I ran my first half-marathon after less than three months running in 2'07" 9m42s/mile average. I've started trying MAF and can barely make 12m30s/mile pace without my heartrate going above 131 and find I am mostly walking. I'm going to run my first full-marathon in 2 1/2 months. Will MAF help me this close to race day? Or should I stick with my current training plan?
@davidosolo
@davidosolo 4 года назад
Good question. I guess it depends on what your ambitions are for this specific marathon. If you are willing to invest in the long term, you should go MAF all the way. If your ego has to be attended and the finish time of this marathon is the most important thing for you, then stick to your current training plan. MAF works out differently for everyone and no formula and/or guarantees, in the short term, can be given.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
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@LyleSilsby
@LyleSilsby 4 года назад
Floris Gierman 5 star rating done!
@ChamindaJ
@ChamindaJ 4 года назад
5-star rating continues
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Lyle Silsby you rule, thank you! 🙏
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Chaminda J. Thanks so much!! 🥳🎉
@paulacoutinho9168
@paulacoutinho9168 4 года назад
Thank you for all the episodes ! 5 out of 5 :)
@mirandachitty3790
@mirandachitty3790 3 года назад
Hi I also live in a hilly area and would like to try Final Surge and or elevate. Are they Garmin apps?
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 Год назад
Want to do it for the mental benefits and stress benefits. My ego always gets in the way and i stop. I want to do the 3 to 5 sessions a week focusing on heart beat. Even get a treadmill with heart rate controls amd just zone out. Do that for 6 months then think about if want to do anything else in running.
@Captainsparkist
@Captainsparkist 4 года назад
Honestly, for me, the maff heart rate is way too fast for me and it’s too the point where I can’t maintain it for very long.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Captainsparkist happens to some others as well, you can decide to slow it down to MAF -10 or MAF -20 for example.
@stafili
@stafili 4 года назад
What's her marathon PR?
@ameliavrabel2125
@ameliavrabel2125 4 года назад
3:26 - Chicago 2009 - the year it was nice and cold!
@humble_integrity
@humble_integrity Год назад
i had to slow down to a 16 minute or 20 minute mile for a long time...
@jackhoughton2700
@jackhoughton2700 4 года назад
Folks. Advice please. In Uk, what’s best HR strap to pair with Garmin Forerunner 235? Many thanks
@ameliavrabel2125
@ameliavrabel2125 4 года назад
I used to have the Garmin 235 and used the soft strap monitor with that one. This was a few years ago so you might check with Garmin as to whether there are others which are best compatible now. Good luck!
@joakimloow1922
@joakimloow1922 4 года назад
I bought the Garmin HRM-Dual about a week ago. Paired up perfectly with my 235.
@kajjebre
@kajjebre 2 года назад
Starting with Nisan garbage commercials tells everything about garbage quality of Nissan
@nanthilrodriguez
@nanthilrodriguez 9 месяцев назад
"halfhazard"
@bentaylor2235
@bentaylor2235 2 года назад
No pain no gain absolutely works. It’s called speed work and it’s essential to reaching your full potential. It’s just not an everyday thing. Easy days easy, hard days hard.
@jshepard5840
@jshepard5840 3 года назад
I just stopped by to say that while you may have some great information in this video, myself along with countless other people probably pass it by because I'm not willing to spend nearly an hour and a half hunting for the few bits of information that may prove useful to me. Just my opinion.
@Website9
@Website9 4 года назад
I am not convinced by this way of running.... Amelia's running stats are average for a female, why would anyone take her advice???
@etiennevlok
@etiennevlok 4 года назад
I have to agree with you, can't get injured yes, but those race times can be achieved by a beginner runner.Not hating at all, but I agree with you! There is a reason the top marathoners don't use chirunning...
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
Hi RT, I think you missed the entire point of the conversation. Amelia experienced very frequent injuries when training at a higher intensity. This interrupted her entire training frequently, not allowing progress. She wasn't able to run without being in pain. She is absolutely not alone, every year 60 to 70+% of all runners get injured. Therefore an alternative approach that is less stressful on the body, can be a good solution to allow more consistent and injury free training, that finally allows joy to come back in workouts. Read some of the other comments on this video, that is why Chi Running and Low Heart Rate training has a lot of momentum and that's why others take her advice.
@FlorisGierman
@FlorisGierman 4 года назад
@@etiennevlok why do people think that what top marathoners use in their training should be what recreational runners use in their training. It's an entirely different end goal. If an athlete has experienced every running injury out there with traditional no pain no gain approaches, something obviously isn't working. Therefore looking for alternatives that do allow consistent injury free running are great ways to bring joy back. A fast finish time is not the objective for every runner. There are many athletes out there that care more about becoming a stronger, healthier and happier athlete and with consistency in training, faster race times can go hand in hand with this for some athletes as well.
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