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No, Piccolo CANNOT Sense God Ki 

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Say whaaaat?? It's true, the anime and manga versions of Dragon Ball Super state this outright on numerous occasions. But what about that times he supposedly sensed Super Saiyan God Goku and the Supreme Kai? Well just watch the video to find out, silly!
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@skarloey1214
@skarloey1214 3 месяца назад
Not because he could, but because he couldn't.
@saudbintalib5701
@saudbintalib5701 3 месяца назад
EXACTLY!As I always say DB fans can't even read.....
@kanewilson8624
@kanewilson8624 3 месяца назад
Remember Planetary Guardians are on the REALLY low end on the divine patheon, as in…the bottom tier of godhood.
@Supahdenning
@Supahdenning 3 месяца назад
The real issue is that the North Kaio doesn't have god ki because Goku teleporting to him in the Cell fight requires sensing him, even though he should by all logic be a god. At least Kami started as a mortal and it's understood that planetary overseers are more like a volunteer position rather than actual inherent godhood, but the Kaio are, according to Toriyama in the Super Exciting Guide, Shinjin grown from the same fruit as Kaioshin.
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 3 месяца назад
Lets be honest, Super never made much sense with God Ki nor was consistent to it.
@saudbintalib5701
@saudbintalib5701 3 месяца назад
Not all Kais are made equally the stronger the Kai is the more likely they have God Ki
@MirasR
@MirasR 3 месяца назад
He could sense his pets or maybe get used to god ki of Kaio
@Supahdenning
@Supahdenning 3 месяца назад
@@MirasR The former is a plausible explanation, helps calm the headcanon.
@batguy39
@batguy39 3 месяца назад
He did learn to sense eventually. Kaiosama could be a precursor/hint, or bro's built mortal
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 месяца назад
3:35 If Piccolo could sense his energy he'd might even be more confident in a fight and been like: "So, the gods aren't that strong huh...." Rather than fearing for his life.
@an-average-box
@an-average-box 2 месяца назад
By this time shin was stronger then piccolo
@numerousbees12
@numerousbees12 2 месяца назад
​@an-average-box . he was probably stronger but not THAT much stronger. perfect cell would kick shin's ass and piccolo has been training for 7 years now
@jojo_justjoejoe5491
@jojo_justjoejoe5491 3 месяца назад
please keep making these videos they’re fire and no one makes dragon ball vids like this anymore except u
@Celtic1020
@Celtic1020 3 месяца назад
I agree with your conclusion, however, mortals can in fact be trained to sense god ki. As Goku and Vegeta can still sense it in base form. Additionally, Frieza is implied to be able to sense Goku and Vegeta in SSB. Finally hit is able to tell that SSB Goku's power is increasing by a specific multiplier despite not being a god.
@batguy39
@batguy39 3 месяца назад
Loei
@burnttoast.2017
@burnttoast.2017 2 месяца назад
I think it's less they can sense it, but that in SSG and Blue Saiyans emit an intimidating "pressure". Trunks talks about it when Vegeta goes Blue. If hit can feel the pressure double, he can assume his power has doubled.
@Martiangrl86
@Martiangrl86 3 месяца назад
This is just my own WMG, but Piccolo had been living on the Lookout all those years after the Cell Games, presumably to help Dende settle in to the role of guardian. Perhaps while Dende was in training/apprenticing, Piccolo retained some of Kami’s abilities, including sensing God ki. Sometime after the events of the Buu saga ended but before Beerus appeared, Piccolo officially passed along the torch and Dende took up the mantle of the new Kami completely, so he gained the power while Piccolo lost it. That’s just a personal head canon though.
@saudbintalib5701
@saudbintalib5701 3 месяца назад
GREAT VIDEO BRO!I always hate it whenever people say that it's a plot hole when it's really not just cuz Dende doesn't really mean that Piccolo for instance I am pretty much convinced at this point that fans never actually watched or read Dragon Ball and thus couldn't pay any attention which includes a lot of the popular DB RU-vidrs sadly we really need more people like you bro you really know your stuff quite well also the thumbnail as well the art that you made for the video looks really nice great job on that as well.
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 2 месяца назад
In general, god ki is one of the most misunderstood plot points in Super regardless. For instance; most people seem to assume that god ki is just naturally stronger than normal ki and that anyone using normal ki can't compete against someone with god ki. This simply isn't the case. There are many instances of god ki users, mostly Goku and Vegeta, fighting on par with or even being weaker than others who just use normal ki. This was also true following the logic backwards into Z, as Goku and Gohan surpassed the Supreme Kai in power before or during the Buu Saga before they even knew god ki was a thing. I assume that the misconception around god ki automatically being better comes from Goku's huge power up in the Battle of Gods arc. We are already familiar with the concept of transformations coming with huge power multipliers by this point, but it seems everyone assumes that Goku's huge buff in power comes from him now using god ki rather than him simply switching to a new type of ki and then applying a transformation multiplier onto it. This could be context driven as it is called "god ki" and there's a degree of respect and reverence that other characters have for it and those who use it at this point in the story, but neither of these points explicitly means that it's stronger; this is at best an intuitive connection that may or may not be true, and in this case it seems that it is not. Another misconception about god ki is that having it automatically makes you a god. However, if you pay attention a bit more closely you'll find that this is false as well. This is once again an intuitive connection and in this case it does seem to hold up early on into Super's storyline, however despite Super Saiyan God being treated as though Goku has literally become a god early on, this treatment doesn't last and it starts becoming apparent that Goku and Vegeta are simply mortals who have obtained transformations that use the same kind of ki that gods use. They haven't gained any extra authority they didn't have before, nor have their life spans been extended. They don't even have basic godly status, as opponents regardless of whether they are evil or not simply treat them as regular opponents with no additional reverence. Take the Tournament of Power for instance; most of the people present were not evil, and yet Goku and Vegeta fighting in their Blue forms aren't treated as anything special in any way other than in the fact they are really strong. Even the actual deities present at the event are simply shocked that mortals are using god ki, rather than truly seeing them as equals. This continues into later sagas in the manga, with future opponents they encounter sometimes acknowledging their strength but treating them no different from an ordinary person otherwise.
@IsaDoesGame755
@IsaDoesGame755 2 месяца назад
Man, These Videos are so good. hearing someone who uses actual facts and logic to explain his reasoning, instead of just jumping to conclusions and making up their own narrative Great work!!!
@jbear9
@jbear9 2 месяца назад
He can't sense it the way he senses other energies but he can tell when it's there. He knows how they carry themselves so when he cant sense the energy of a really confident and mysterious warrior he takes it as a hint that they're devine.
@piccolo1906
@piccolo1906 2 месяца назад
Because Toriyama didn't want him to.
@Highball1417
@Highball1417 2 месяца назад
I always thought that Piccolo just lost the ability to sense God Ki, in the Buu saga he still had it but by the time the events of Super came he lost it.
@Hollow_Vex
@Hollow_Vex 3 месяца назад
Just had this recommended and will be binging your channel 💜
@flufferusgoobus
@flufferusgoobus 3 месяца назад
Great video and I think you've also really set it out why Piccolo even forfeited the match. Good job!
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 месяца назад
1:22 I thought telepathy had a different sense type, maybe piccolo can pick up on a gods *brain-waves,* but not their energy, thus allowing him to telepathically speak to them and even detect them without needing their Ki signature, a loophole to god ki sense perhaps.
@millasboo
@millasboo 2 месяца назад
0:01 He can we literally saw him do it in BOG and the S1 retelling. Keep up man
@DragonBambinoYT
@DragonBambinoYT 3 месяца назад
Yours is a great channel. I like it very much, keep on going bro!!
@SuperPeacefulguy
@SuperPeacefulguy 2 месяца назад
That means, picollo can definitely kick shin's ass during the buu arc. He just overestimated him
@nothing4209
@nothing4209 2 месяца назад
It can both be true that Shin is stronger and Piccolo can't sense him.
@editFiction
@editFiction 2 месяца назад
So true
@scrumt
@scrumt 2 месяца назад
Noteworthy that at the exhibition in the manga where all the gods fight goku says he can’t sense their energy because of them being gods, meaning even Goku and likely Vegeta can’t either.
@reggietheturtle8155
@reggietheturtle8155 2 месяца назад
Great video tbh, but, what's the background music? Chill as hell
@gotanksrox5331
@gotanksrox5331 2 месяца назад
maybe he felt the pressure of supreme kai's presence, sort of like when vegeta turned blue against trunks. trunks said he can't sense him, but feels an overwhelming presence about him. a similar thing happened when vegeta tried attacking whis (before he started training under him). he mentioned how some sort of energy is holding him back, which would just be the presence of him
@millasboo
@millasboo 2 месяца назад
0:45 They literally said he could with the DB’s if he took up the mantle but he said no if i remember right i got to rewatch that arc and read it
@millasboo
@millasboo 2 месяца назад
0:08 No that was when goku died
@cherryguy9802
@cherryguy9802 2 месяца назад
I don't really have to watch the entire video, I just hit the like button because the name of the title is facts 😂
@Abradrake
@Abradrake 2 месяца назад
I just assumed it was because Kami ceased to be a god when he reunited with Piccolo.
@_WiZ420
@_WiZ420 2 месяца назад
I feel like they sold Orange Piccolo, who would obtain godly ki. His strength could still be fine as it is, but why not just let this shit go, he's awakening Kami within. Nail too, but that's more just him being a warrior, means nothing in comparison. I feel like his character isn't complete until he obtains god ki. As for Gohan, I don't know. He can claim to go the Earthly route, but godly ki is something that Piccolo could go on to understand as well as Goku or Vegeta, and I doubt Gohan wouldn't be able to pick this up if he ever got serious. Gohan currently isn't serious, but one day, he could pick up on the essence and be pushed down a path. It really depends. For now, though, Daima lol
@oflameo8927
@oflameo8927 2 месяца назад
I bet Piccolo could beat Shin doing the Buu arc.
@Chckster
@Chckster 2 месяца назад
He couldn’t have, shin is supposedly as strong as cell
@henshinvolt4856
@henshinvolt4856 2 месяца назад
@@Chckster Shin is stated in one guide to be as strong as Cell Games Goku.
@Chckster
@Chckster 2 месяца назад
@@henshinvolt4856 Oh really? I thought it was cell. I think he should still win though.
@TheJoJSooS
@TheJoJSooS Месяц назад
easy asnwer: they can if toyotaro wants them to and they can't if toyotaro doesn't want them to.
@TheJoJSooS
@TheJoJSooS Месяц назад
I usually hate an amswer such as the one I gave but DBS validates it lol. Good video
@Donatas-rp5yf
@Donatas-rp5yf 2 месяца назад
Wow😮
@Laekith
@Laekith 2 месяца назад
But how did he know Goku was in trouble during Broly?
@maiastniki
@maiastniki 2 месяца назад
this is cool
@Eldagusto
@Eldagusto 2 месяца назад
Interesting points
@millasboo
@millasboo 2 месяца назад
0:14 Two different canon manga and the anime go two different directions
@progenitorgod1155
@progenitorgod1155 2 месяца назад
Piccolo couldn't make new dragonballs because I believe he is a warrior type namekian, and only Dragon type namekians can.
@baval5
@baval5 3 месяца назад
OK, but you forgot another tournament with another god. If Dende can sense God Ki because he has it, that means gods of Earth have God Ki. But Goku was able to sense Kami when he was disguised as Hero/Shen at the 23rd World Tournament and by extension when he first met him at the Lookout
@EWOODJ
@EWOODJ 2 месяца назад
It’s not like they can only have one ki source at a time. SS Blue is a prime example.
@baval5
@baval5 2 месяца назад
@@EWOODJ Well when Goku turned SSJGod his Ki completely disappeared, Gohan stated that he couldnt sense him at all. It seems that having God Ki completely masks your original Ki. Given that it doesnt make sense that Blue could be sensed either. Its all just Supers inconsistency problems, because Toriyama was more forgetful than ever. In the manga the phrasing Piccolo uses is "no mortal can sense Ki that comes from gods", and since Blue is supposed to be using the power of SSJGod as a mortal it can logically follow that Blues Ki can be sensed because its technically not coming from a God. But then we are back to Kami's Ki should not be sense-able because he is a God, or if he isnt then Dende shouldnt be able to sense God Ki either.
@edgargaebolg9307
@edgargaebolg9307 2 месяца назад
You're thinking too much about what's just a retcon. I'm sure they didn't even bother explaining why Goku can sense King Kai's ki if he's meant to be a god too
@baval5
@baval5 2 месяца назад
@@edgargaebolg9307 ...the entire point of this video is to say that its not a retcon, and the point of my comment is to argue that it is.
@granifle
@granifle 2 месяца назад
an issue with this video is episode 239: around the 9 min mark, piccolo says he can feel shins ki
@UchihaTobito
@UchihaTobito 2 месяца назад
Nice find! This is an anime-only filler scene, but I didn't know about this until now. An interesting contradiction for sure
@deckzone3000
@deckzone3000 17 дней назад
Then how does Piccolo know Goku and Beerus' punches are powerful enough to destroy the universe??
@rriverderch7035
@rriverderch7035 2 месяца назад
He sensed Kid Buu several times. Case closed 😂
@nerijus7
@nerijus7 2 месяца назад
Piccolo is just using 3g signal, he is unable sense 4g or 5g with that.
@vrokyoto
@vrokyoto 3 месяца назад
*fuses with a god yet can’t sense god ki*
@ElEquipoEstrellaDeNigerSquad
@ElEquipoEstrellaDeNigerSquad 2 месяца назад
Dende took his place as a god
@ReAwakenZ
@ReAwakenZ 2 месяца назад
Everything'd be all fine and dandy if it weren't for the stupid line that says Gammas are on par with Goku and Vegeta, which must mean Piccolo somehow knows their strength. And obviously he can't really grasp it when the only feats that the series is capable of showing when it comes to our main heroes is destroying a few hills.
@zeevdrifter2707
@zeevdrifter2707 2 месяца назад
The whole sensing god ki is extremely inconsistent, and forgotten half the time, also plenty of non god ki users have stomped god ki users.
@he_who_has_no_name
@he_who_has_no_name 3 месяца назад
0:20 you could argue that it could have be written like that. But it wasn't.
@AnkanBob
@AnkanBob 2 месяца назад
wait what did you call little green
@anthonywatson1508
@anthonywatson1508 2 месяца назад
Is Shin like at Semi Perfect Cell level? He's stronger than Piccolo but weaker than Super Saiyan Goku.
@runin12
@runin12 2 месяца назад
You literally debunked yourself. 3:36 “but why cant we sense gokus chi, maybe he is moving to fast for us to lock onto it” First of all piccolo here would obviously be aware that goku has the ability to use god ki and infact god ki would be within gokus base form at this point as we learn this In the granhola arc, piccolo In this panel literally doesn’t even think of goku going god or blue as being an option as to why he cant sense god ki he is straight up confused as to why he can’t do it, and rules it out as being due to speed not the state goku is in. He isn’t able to sense ui goku but thats just inconsistent In general, But even if that were the case it wouldnt matter as you can simply say gokus ki In ui is a bit more unique compared to his god forms. In the anime piccolo can also sense it Post universe the goku vs hit sequence that is, piccolo and even gohan are able to feel mui gokus pressure and ki when he taps into it for the first time. Piccolo comments on ui gokus power multiple times and even senses blue evo vegetas power. Piccolo makes enough statements about gokus ki especially In the anime that its safe to assume to he can sense it to some extent.
@UchihaTobito
@UchihaTobito 2 месяца назад
I recommend rereading DBS chapter 58, since this was confusing to me the first time I read it. The line about "moving too fast" is an intentional misdirect to setup the reveal that Goku was using UI Sign earlier in the fight. Moro specifically tells Goku to show him the form that he used to employ "those high-speed moves". Goku obliges, and activates UI. That's the big reveal, and is payoff to answering the question of why they couldn't sense him (and still can't in chapter 59, which they reiterate). As for your other points, Dragon Ball has always made a distinction between sensing someone's ki as a way of "measuring" their power level, vs determining how strong someone is through observation. For example, they've always been able to estimate the various Androids' strength just by fighting them, or watching them fight someone whose power they can compare it to. God ki users are treated very similarly in DBS, although I will agree the anime is much less clear/consistent than the manga.
@Aurexplays
@Aurexplays 2 месяца назад
I think thats obvious
@redreaper9622
@redreaper9622 3 месяца назад
There is actually one more wrench in the puzzle. DBS: Broly. Specifically the novelization. (Which is merely the film put into words with more in depth explanations and input from Toriyama’s OG Script, so it’s totally valid to reference, especially since it clarifies unexplained phenomena. Such as what happened with the Dimension of Swirling Lights, or the symbolism of the tree on Piccolo’s back in Superhero’s novelization). That being, Piccolo *senses* Gogeta’s “FULL inner strength,” (which is at least Super Saiyan Blue), and is able to confirm Gogeta is stronger than Broly. He also couldn’t have been talking about mortal transformations, since SSJ Gogeta in itself was equal to SSJ Broly (in the novel and film). And at best you could give Gogeta a hypothetical SSJ2, but Piccolo is highly aware of Broly’s evolving capabilities (as he sensed Broly’s increasing power). SSJ2 being an only 2x gap. (Not to mention he should be able to sense Broly’s “Full Inner Power,” which vastly exceeds mortal transformations and needed SSB to truly stomp him, and even then Broly was able to tank multiple insanely powerful super moves from SSB Gogeta and keep fighting.) Meaning he must have been talking about God Ki. Of course, you could handwave this as an inconsistency borne of forgetfulness or simply retconning Piccolo’s sensory ability.
@SonZackSSJ9k
@SonZackSSJ9k 3 месяца назад
That’s easily explained by the fact that Piccolo knows how powerful the SSJG form boost is, he’s seen it in the Universe 6 tournament and in the ToP before so Ofcourse he’d know Gogeta Blue could beat Broly.
@redreaper9622
@redreaper9622 3 месяца назад
@@SonZackSSJ9k I mean, that’s *estimation,* not *sensing,* but that’s a valid way to interpret it in my opinion, since Piccolo has done similar before and it be CALLED sensing.
@SonZackSSJ9k
@SonZackSSJ9k 3 месяца назад
@@redreaper9622 Wdym? He’s literally estimated something without Power levels before. Not only that, He could also mean Gogeta in SS3 was enough against Broly which was likely the case.
@redreaper9622
@redreaper9622 3 месяца назад
@@SonZackSSJ9k I agreed with that, though?
@SonZackSSJ9k
@SonZackSSJ9k 3 месяца назад
@@redreaper9622 oh wait? Mb sorry bro
@Op_pose
@Op_pose 3 месяца назад
Piccolo has the power of a God, but cant sense the power of a God
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 3 месяца назад
Its why I don't like the whole concept of God ki.
@mistra809
@mistra809 3 месяца назад
Why so much time for 1 video?
@KamehamehaSuperStyle
@KamehamehaSuperStyle 3 месяца назад
🤫🧏
@SD-vp5vo
@SD-vp5vo 2 месяца назад
super saiyan gay form doesn't make goku a god
@IDK_What_toputhere139
@IDK_What_toputhere139 3 месяца назад
i thought this was a funny dbz comic?
@thestrong2401
@thestrong2401 3 месяца назад
Frieza and Hit can sense God ki as they state so in the anime when goku turns ssb frieza is able to tell he is stronger than him and Hit is able to tell Goku is multiplying his ki x10 when he uses Kaioken, yet neither of them are gods
@batguy39
@batguy39 3 месяца назад
Loei
@Dewani90.
@Dewani90. 2 месяца назад
Sensing Shin energy?, man, gods of creation are barely strong enough to fight most enemies, if Piccolo sensed Shin's energy then he would have laughed his ass off at the fact that he was way stronger than the little guy.
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