@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va since he's filling in for people I'm pretty sure it'll count, that's why they let ty gibbs and gragson run for rookie of the year despite running like half the 2022 season lol
@@fowlermotorsports9754 yeah they said something last week and were probably just waiting on Martins to sign back and yeah so they just tried finding anyway to screw him out of it
This is all Toyota Nascar and Legacy racing needing an excuse to replace Noah garrison and they did a witch hunt and fond something from three years ago on social media . I hope he moves on to open wheel racing and becomes a huge star. 🙏
Interesting timing on Noah’s suspension. They find a meme from months ago….after it’s leaked that Legacy was trying to dump him for John Hunter. Guessing next step will be to use this to void Noah’s contract
@@flacko_jody2130 let’s be honest here, everyone has laughed at those types of memes before. I’m not a racist person, don’t get me wrong here, but sometimes some dark humor is funny, even though it is dark. That said he is a public figure so I understand the suspension but I think it’s going a bit far to call Noah a racist. I highly doubt he is anyone like that.
@@AnthonytheAmerican the fact that nascar fans get more mad at bubba for breathing than they do when a driver does shit like this is why the sport will never grow
I think Gragson is a sacrificial lamb with Legacy moving to Toyota next year. Now that Truex is returning next year, I feel Toyota was going to replace Gragson with JHN. I think Gragson is tied to Chevy.
When I first heard this... It's just LMC looking for their reason for letting him go for JHN next year! Who knows JHN might get to fill in for a few races this season.
@@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va I think Legacy wasn’t going to retain Grayson because of the switch to Toyota. I don’t think Nemechek can drive for Legacy because they’re a Chevy team and JHN is a Toyota driver. Also I think Grayson is tied to Chevy. Maybe he’s going to Kaulig to drive the #31 Chevy. I don’t think he wants to go back to XFINITY. I think JHN was in line to replace Truex but now that he’s returning, Toyota had no choice but to put Nemechek at Legacy in the #42.
@@MaLva500I don’t think Jimmie is really that good of a businessman like Jeff is either though. You see how much better they ran once Jeff got into those cars in 2016 vs when he was just managing the team, the performance seemed to pick up around Indy when he started driving again, l thought. Jimmie is good, but Jeff helped really build HMS into the powerhouse they are today, along with Chad and Ray.
@@CraigGrant-sh3in Floyd wasn't murdered, he died of an overdose, his breathing was labored even before being placed on the ground. The Hennepin County's autopsy even said so.
I hope JHN doesn't go for a second mediocre cup ride and holds out for a better situation Legacy is a mid pack company if that and i think he has earned better.
@@steveeazy18 If I were JHN I would stay at Xfinity for a while longer until a seat on some major team is available. LMC this year has been terrible and I think it would be another setback for his career.
@@spencermccormick299 he liked the comment not Toyota, nobody should be making comments about a man that lost his life and surely not if you are public figure
@@KaraKubed Police always put their knee on people's necks or head to hold down a resisting criminal. If you watch cops it happens all the time, all the way back to the early 2000s episodes. The officer didn't kill him.
This suspension is pure NASCAR wokism and Legacy getting a reason to fire him. I'm not a Gragson fan but he has had a great racing history before this year and made Xfinity interesting
Chase Elliot and Bubba Wallace intentionally wrecked someone 1 raced suspended Noah like a meme in social media indefinitely suspended? WTF Is happening here?!
@@KaraKubedIt was dumb, but not even remotely racist. Career violent felon, drug dealer, and part-time porn actor George Floyd isn't some Christ-like being. He's not above criticizing or making fun of. No one is!
Let's just be honest here. Toyota doesn't like Noah. That's it! They were trying to find some reason to get rid of him and finally did. Now they have a brand new spot for JHN on their newly acquired team. End of Story. On another note, isn't it just ironic that the Noah news comes not even 24 hours after Truex decides to stay 🤔 almost like they need to make room somewhere.
So disappointing. Noah is one of the few drivers with a personality and actually says what he wants to. I guess this is the consequence for not being cookie cutter
Indefinitely suspending someone for liking a social media post/meme off track(i understand what it was but for something off track), but Chase and Bubba right hook someone ON TRACK and get a one race suspension…
I mean not like the guy was a criminal or anything. Put a gun to a pregnant women’s stomache Did drugs, overdosed blamed the police for it got 4 guys arrested for nothing. Used fake money. And the guys called a hero and was given a gold casket. I’m so tired of the snowflakes in this world. Nascar and Noah’s team should be embarrassed
And Denny Hamlin got diversity training last year for posting an offensive meme. If this is because Noah liked the post why didn’t he get diversity training?
Sad world where everyone is so thin skinned that something that happened months or years ago just completely freaks people out. Everyone is supposed to be able to speak their minds. Social media should be outlawed
You are so right. I too am sick of these whining babies out there. This is just pathetic to me he didn't do anything. He most certainly doesn't deserve to be suspended in any way.
So physical assault is totally cool in NASCAR, and is even celebrated (I’m glad it is) but liking a damn shit post will get you indefinitely suspended? I hate this world. We are quite literally, screwed.
Funny how this comes out less than week after story about Noah getting replaced in 42 when they go to Toyota. but it is ok to give middle finger live on TV interview is ok by Nascar. to me this is set up to get ride of Noah
This has gotten to be a joke with suspending people for such moronic things… I’m sorry but we’re going to put Bubba Wallace on a pedistool when he accused the entire garage for hanging a “nuce” that was a garage door pull…. I get it things may not be okay with some, but as human beings we should have the right to our own beliefs. Sanctioning bodies cannot be controlling the drivers every moves unless it fits their narrative.. that’s beyond ignorant.
Bubba didn’t accuse anyone of putting the noose in the garage. NASCAR was the one that thought that a person put that pull there like that for a reason. Bubba wasn’t allowed in the garage because it was during Covid.
But they can. It’s their company. They can fire/hire as they see fit. Saying a company can’t do something is an infringement on that company’s first amendment rights.
I’m curious to see if Berry fills in beyond Michigan. Or if a Toyota driver drives for legacy after this weekend. I would say it’s gonna be Berry for the rest of season
@@rynosraceroom66well technically Chevy doesn't have a say. They already cut ties and pulled backing for LMC hell they been using JGR pit crew members for a while now this year. They are nothing but a logo on the car at this point.
They probably just looking for an excuse to give Noah the boot. TRD doesn’t really want him, it seems. With Truex coming back in ‘24 I’m sure they want JHN in the car.
As a teen, Social media is what we do. Sometimes, we are dumb, but as most people, if i say something offensive no one will know because I'm just a teen, but some morons in the media might try to find some you wrote 15-30 years ago if you are running for political office or became a sport star. We are so divisive nowadays. If you look at someone crosseays, they might sue you. Its stupid...
People need to abandon social media all together. Life has not improved with the addition of social media platforms. How many more people have to get cancelled before everyone wakes up? Noah made a bad decision. There are ramifications for your actions. Always has been and always will be.
Everyone knows there are consequences for your actions in our word. We learn that around the age of 2. There is no such thing as "cancelation." It's a mad up term for people who feel like there should not be consequences for wrongdoing. Think about the people who use the term and why they use it.
I'm sorry, I get Noah's position, and it probably was an edgy meme, but come on, getting suspended from Nascar for LIKING a meme? He didn't even post it. And it was months ago. Geesh, Nascar needs to chill out and stop being so afraid of cancel culture. And cancel culture needs to stop ruining people's lives because they get offended over feelings.😑
The problem is, when it comes to Noah Gragson and what he supposedly did on social media, NASCAR and Legacy Motor Club are in a no win situation. If they don’t do anything then sponsors and certain individuals will complain, but if they do what they have done with Noah Gragson, then you will upset many other people for reasons I will not go into here. I don’t want to be NASCAR or Legacy Motor Club right now because it’s a no win situation.
Honestly the only way for this crap to stop is to not apologize and for them to not worry about certain sponsors. They are the ones keeping this crap going. It has to stop, somebody needs to make a stand but they're too gutless to.
@@FishNFoolLuresThis “woke crap” make up the majority of people. NASCAR and these major brands exist to make money. They are not going to risk losing money just to save Noah.
@@rodman0088No, the stand is not normalizing that kind of behavior, meaning racism and police brutality. I would think anyone supporting Trump or the GOP would be against police brutality and authority over reach. Not accusing you of being pro-Trump or anything, but I know that crowd exists in NASCAR and yet does not realize the irony of being against the idea of government overreach while realizing Chauvin killing Floyd was criminal still.
The challenging piece with Nascar is sponsorship. Sponsors dont want to be associated with someone who makes those choices. Indefinite suspension is harsh but Nascar doesnt want sponsors and money walking out of the series. The indefinite suspension will be removed once he completes sensitivity training and any other tasks Nascar asks him to complete. Wasnt Noah alive 3 years ago. Kyle Larson ring a bell? Gotta think of the potential consequences before clicking that button especially being a public figure.
Rational take. People are quick to downplay this as "who cares about social media", but being a NASCAR driver is unlike any other job out there. You represent millions of dollars and hundreds if not thousands of jobs across the country. You ought to be grateful to sponsors for giving you millions of dollars to race and abide by their values. Crying about "cancel culture" after doing something dumb is moronic given the fact that your entire livelihood is thanks to companies who decide to sponsor you. If you don't do what they want you to do, they have every right to disassociate from you.
One thing people forget about the Larson incident is that Ganassi waited for the sponsors to respond first, to see if they wanted Larson to stay. When they said "no," Chip was left with no other choice. Otherwise, Ganassi would lose MORE sponsors due to ridiculous circumstances (see DC Solar.)
Noah is 25 now. Supposedly this "like" occurred 3 years ago. He was 22 at that time and quite a bit more immature. Yes, he still has moments when he should edit himself. Some media guy reportedly came across this " like" and felt it necessary to post it at this point in time. I'd hate for Noah to lose his career over this.
Guy was probably holding onto this story for a slow week, or told Legacy and they realized they could get rid of Noah and make way for a toyota xfinity driver for next year
@hutchj6163 I dont know where you got your false info from. George was killed 3 years ago, yes, but the post was posted on May 27th, 2023. So Noah liked it recently.
@@noUGames I got the info from media earlier today. You think I made it up? Did you notice I said reportedly? That means it's not confirmed fact. Good grief.
i think this seals gragsons fate, hes either going back to xfinity or going to the couch. there isnt a single cup seat i could see him going to, his best bet is either back to jrm, or taking chandler smiths place at kaulig
JGR may very well had a hand in this suspension. Legacy was looking for a reason as they will be an extension of JGR and Noah is not welcome in the Toyota family because of spoiled brat Ty Gibbs. Just this week it was reported Legacy was considering replacing Noah. His contract was signed prior to the conception of Legacy Jimmie Johnson or the new Toyota affiliation. Witch hunt in his social media gave them something to grasp onto. Simply dirty pool. The announcement of Martin coming back today only supports this Theory. They needed a seat for John Hunter Nemechek
@@sowrkid28 you haven't been paying attention. They will be technical partners directly with jgr much like furniture row was prior to jgr absorbing that team. John Hunter going to Legacy which is most likely whats happening is because of this relationship
When you're 33rd in the standings, with 6 DNFs, on a 1 yr contract, with a new manufacturer coming aboard for 2024, you kinda have to walk on eggshells.
@@lmachen9372 I actually think that was coming soon anyway. I've been hearing talks about Toyota wanting to get JHN into a cup ride, and they were kinda waiting to see if MTJ retires. I guess this just made it easier for them.
I hate being in my mid-forty's, but damn I'm glad I grew up without social media and cell phones. All of this nonsense is so insane, gets weirder by the week.
No freedom of speech anymore (or freedom likes) nascar has became a joke if your not for the narrative now this is what happens he didn’t even say anything this is beyond nuts
Freedom of speech was never freedom from consequences of speech. You poor rednecks can't financially support the sport so they need non-racist fanbase not Confederates.
You do understand freedom of speech refers to freedom from government retaliation due to your speech. Please tell me where the government retaliated? This was an employee breaking a rule of his employer, and being terminated for it.
Not gonna defend Gragson, but if he got suspended for liking what he liked, why go to that extreme and not just sensitivity training like Hamlin last year with the Family Guy meme post? I don't know, but something smells fishy? Is NASCAR playing favorites by suspending a little guy like Gragson but not bringing the hammer down on someone big like Hamlin?
I cant say I am happy about this either and I agree with everyone's oppionion regurding the harshness of this. BUT BUT...REMEEMBER, NACAR Loves Toyota, they dump a huge some of money, and not only on the cars they represent, but the money that they sponcer races like Daytona ect. Very dissapointed. Have my own feelings, and do believe, this was Toyotas easy way of getting rid of Noah Period!
People are so soft nowadays. Suspending someone's career over them pressing a button on their phone. Our ancestors are laughing at us from their graves.
What a disaster it’s been for Noah Gragson. First it’s his terrible season for 2023, next is getting into a fight with Melon man, then there’s missing a race due to a concussion, and now we have this damn suspension. I know Gragson should’ve thought twice before liking that post, but I feel a suspension is too harsh. Something like a fine or sensitivity training is reasonable. It’s nice to see Josh Berry getting more experience however. Wonder how long Gragson will be out?
I think they really suspended him because of the severity of the tweet that he liked, they also have people like Bubba Wallace in nascar that they would have to think about as well
Kyler Laron, N Word, same suspension. Bubba Wallace, wrecks and assaults Larson for running into him, one race suspension. Chase Elliott this season, wrecks Hamlin, one race suspension. Noah Gragson, likes a meme, Larson treatment. What a joke. Legacy saw an easy out and took it.
Liking a meme depicting someone being suffocated to death tells you where his mindset is. The whole world saw what happened and it was NOT funny. IMO Nascar made the right choice.
That sounds like the same thing as Kyle Larson. He is suspended but won't say or show what he did. I find it suspicious. Sounds like there is more to this story. He gets the story that Noah might get replaced and then gets suspended. Maybe the social media thing just gave Legacy the excuse to suspend the driver. I think Nascar suspending noah is overkill, and he probably comes back after sensitively training driving for a chevy team next year like Larson.
There is no Mistake Americans are allowed to Like or Dislike Whatever Floyd was a Thug nothing More Noah should have Gotten a Lawyer and Sued Nascar for Free Speech or is this a nation of Cowards & men I would Tell nascar shove it before Bowing to the Woke Mob ? That is how we Got Here Enough Woke Nascar &ell no never .
Are you kidding me, if that's true, it's pretty sad you can't even like something, nascar is in my opinion woke that's another reason I quit watching them. Everybody gets hurt feelings nowadays.
As someone that follows a ton of NASCAR meme pages and also Gragson, he likes literally every NASCAR meme I see. It literally puts his name front and center on so many posts for liking it. Seems like Toyota and Legacy needed a scapegoat to get him outta there.
I’m not a Toyota or Chevy fan in any shape form or fashion, but this bothers me. This is the supposedly great gentleman Jimmy Johnson’s team so just goes to show you how much of a gentleman he is.
In the mainstay Legacy Motor Club have sponsors on both Cup entries which are companies owned by Maury Gallagher. Not that it should making any difference. Although it places the spotlight directly on any decision.
How crazy if Berry could get the team its first top 10 of the year, especially if he's still with them come Martinsville. It'd be crazier still if B.J. McLeod can catch or even pass Gragson in the points.
Drivers need to be sponsor friendly but sponsors need to be fan friendly too. If you betray a driver over something like this you also alienate their fans. Look at Bud Light. Know your audience. Don’t worry about the feelings of people who don’t give a shit about your sport or product.
Jimmie Johnson had single handedly ruined his career he won't wait a season or two for noah to learn and get better he just fires him and at this point he's probably given up
Isn’t it just slightly peculiar that a human being is being told what to think, say, do?? Can you imagine if all those off color remarks made by the legions of Hall of Fame inductees were made public? I find that today you have to live in a bubble with everyone chomping at the bit to pop it by any means necessary! He’s a damn kid still, they do and say lots of crap that could be offensive but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are bad people!
Not first dumb decision in Noah's career. I guess he doesn't understand how not to shot himself in the foot. If it was any question that he ain't going to be back in that car next year it's definitely clear now.
Audio quality is good! Appreciate the video update. Social media strikes again with an athlete and Noah will not be the last athlete to do something stupid with social media.
Noah & LMC are done i believe. His job was already on the line with his performance and TRD taking over. Now this situation and to make matters worse his rumored replacement just won the Xfinity race today.
It'll be an even bigger slap in the face if Berry top 10's with the 42 car. Also we can tell how tall Eric is, AJ and Suarez almost looking straight up talking to him aha
I dunno how tall Suarez is, but I think The Dinger is on the short side... lol, so maybe have Eric next to some more average-height guys for comparison. (Speaking of which, I think probably Reddick and Larson are about the shortest Cup drivers out there. Shows that size doesn't negatively impact skill. It would be interesting to see what the average height for a Nascar cup drivers is...who is the tallest...the shortest... Just curious....)
This is just ridiculous, and in a way I can relate to this. In 2018 I got expelled from school for doing the same thing, except I was the one who actually posted the meme. But he just liked it, he didn’t even post it. We as a society are promoting violence and drugs as being okay, but if you post/like an offensive joke then you’re going to get punished for that. It’s so backwards…
This whole world started going backwards about 30 years ago. Now it pretty much sucks all the time. When will we start fighting back on all this ridiculousness?!
@@DiehardtNG10 I wasn’t even super popular, we had a current events class conversation on gun control, and being a smartass I said “if you add more laws, you’re gonna have a higher crime rate because there’s more laws to break than before” and one of the kids got extremely defensive against that and went to the principal because he felt like I was making fun of school shootings (a bit of a stretch if you ask me) and after the principal talked to me that day, it was all good. I wasn’t in trouble until the other kid went onto my Instagram, pulled up an old post I had made, and began telling others I was serious in it (it was a meme that made fun of school shootings) and that’s what I got expelled for. I shared something I found and when someone else didn’t like something unrelated I had said, reported it and me. It was super shitty but it’s been over 5 years now, but I can relate to what Gragson is dealing with.
Liking is George Floyd meme is never probably a great place to be. There's a bunch of them out there that are kind of light-hearted or whatever on other subjects but that one gets real dark real quick.
Gragson getting suspend for that is completely ridiculous. 5 years ago this wouldn’t have been a issue. We have over scrutinized ever aspect of everyone’s life and we care to much about minor actions taken by people. He shouldn’t get fired for this or have a nascar suspension.
@@mattcecil6692 didn't say team, said best of sport, Jr, Kelly, Jimmie, Mr H, Jeff, etc. I'll say it, Legacy Motor Club is just awful right now, but I really think they will fix it.....
