Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Scahill on the Russia-Ukraine War, the Media, Propaganda, and Accountability 

He got a lot wrong, which is intentional.

FYI: Chomsky is in his 90's.

@lourak613, that stood out to me, too.

@@hahanoob1699 agreed

@@hahanoob1699 I really like Noam but I think your right. He is spinning the narrative He did this in the Bosnian war as well.

I agree. I wish the most powerful man in the world (US president..?) was even half as sharp.

It's amazing how well read he is

Whatever. Lost respect for him when realized he hates Mahatma Gandhi. How hypocritical of him.

@@gamer-ff6mh Where did you see that clip on Gandhi?

@@gamer-ff6mh where did you get that?

It sounded like it😹😹😹

Volodmyr, think he slipped up the Ukrainian equivalent of Vladimir.

@@johanmetreus1268 it was funny though, wasn’t it?

as a russian i would instanteneously switch sides if zelensky revealed that he is actually a dark wizard

@@giogio51592 brilliant, I like the fact you don't actually reveal which side you're on now, in this comment, and in fact with either assumption the "switch" would be hilarious.

Same

@Hugues Balzac Where did they teach you to ask such stupid questions?

@Hugues Balzac The entire interview, Chomskys entire philosophy is "the US is bad and at fault for X event and I must justify that preconception" They were talking about the illegal and immoral invasion of Russia and its actions (like committing warcrimes) but 90% of this video was about the US and how it was somehow at fault for all of it, Tankies cannot conceive anything beyond "US bad".

Yh its great when people let the interviewed person speak out till they end.

But without critical evaluation of those thoughts. In this interview he is a mouthpiece for Putin.

@@jnagarya519 I would argue he presents a critique of Western Imperialism. Remember Ukraine is an issue because the West has sought to pull her into the Western Empire.

@@markfisher6404 You aren't hearing what he is actually saying: he is asserting that which he believes Ukraine should do -- and is repeating the demands of IMPERIALIST PUTIN. At the very same time that RUSSIA ILLEGALLY invaded Ukraine AND IS AT THE VERY MOMENT ENGAGED IN MASS SLAUGHTER OF CIVILIANS. And get a clue by learning HISTORY. NATO has three basic purposes: 1. To put an end to the hundreds of years of war between and among European nations. In that it has been totally successful. 2. As a defense of Western Europe against IMPERIALIST RUSSIA. 3. As the first line of defense of the UNITED STATES against IMPERIALIST RUSSIA -- "better THEY fight them THERE than WE fight them HERE". There is a young French woman who made a video tour of the D-Day cemetery in France and posted those videos online. The cemetery is laid out by country, and the United States section goes on and on and on and on and on; most of those graves are filled with young men, boys, who didn't live to see their 20th year. That is the PRICE the United States paid in stopping IMPERIALIST HITLER IN BEHALF OF WESTERN EUROPE AND the United States. I have opposed EVERY US war since Vietnam. I was the ONLY member of my high school class to speak out against that involvement and took the heat for doing so -- "draft-dodger"; "Communist" -- and refused to be silenced. I opposed the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. Saddam Hussein did not have and did not threaten to use chemical or biological weapons, or nukes. But Putin DOES have nukes, AND is threatening to use them. His nukes can reach the United States. Reality and human affairs are not perfect. The Left FALSELY bashes Obama for NOT putting "boots on the ground" in Libya -- which the majority of the US population AGREED WITH: democracy is MAJORITY rule. Instead he told Europe that Libya was in EUROPE'S front yard, not the US's. And the Left actually attacked Obama and Clinton for what happened to Gheddafi. LEARN THE HISTORY: Gheddafi was a dictator and mass murderer -- and a consequence of EUROPEAN -- not US -- imperialism and colonialism in Africa. Let's be HONEST: If a DEMOCRATIC president engages in imperialism, the Left bashes him. If a Democratic president DOESN'T engage in imperialism -- and I'm speaking also to Chomsky's IMPERIALIST selling out of Ukraine -- the Left bashes him. And if a Democratic president acts CO-EQUALLY with the US's allies, in this instance against IMPERIALIST RUSSIA, the Left bashes him. LEARN the history of Russia -- and Hitler -- vis-a-vis Ukraine: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wVkM44gym1c.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3cN0hQ2eJYA.html

@@markfisher6404 That's utterly dumb -- ignorant of HISTORY. The ANTI-imperialist says that Ukraine has its own independent right to choose its destiny, its own future. The REPUTATIONAL "anti-imperialist" Chomsky asserts that Ukraine should appease IMPERIALIST Russia by acceding to IMPERIALIST Putin's demands -- which demands are REFUTED by IMPERIALIST Putin's illegal invasion and imposition of his OBVIOUS GENOCIDE on INDEPENDENT Ukraine.

Perhaps you should watch it a second time -- but actually LISTEN CRITICALLY to CHOMSKY'S imperialism.

Absolutely, I personally miss Jeremy Scahill visiting Democracy Now, as much as I am SO grateful for our luck that Noam Chomsky is still available and healthy.❤️We’re so fortunate, we who care and therefore understand who is telling us the truth.

@@subversivelysurreal3645 Chomsky is pushing the false history of Putin. Which is identical to the false history pushed by both Stalin and Hitler. NEVER rely on a single source -- especially as a member of the Chomsky cult.

@@Kaatu-barada-nikto nice try

@@Kaatu-barada-nikto do you? And about 2004? And 1991 prior to that ?

@@a.k.6059 what did happen in 2004 and 1991? as i understand pretty much conflict started in 2007-2008. 2007 Putin had his speech about unipolar world at Munich security conference, in 2008 G.W.Bush openly invited Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO.

@Douglas Cummings umm what do you call exaggeration of nazism in Ukraine? Bandera is a hero. Every year far right radical nationalists hold torch marches in Kiyv and other cities. Nazi battalions are part of militia and army. Pretty much nacism on goverment levels.

@@hfalex7703 post Interim government the Neo-Nazis got like..1% in the polls, clearly their power is overstated, most of Azov (numbering perhaps 400-800 nazis pre war) are probably all dead already and was only integrated into the UA military because Russia invaded Crimea.

nice, thanks for that

Scahill....told Noam to stfu...He should've doubled down...Noam is stuck in pre social media analysis

Or to read find out about the gist of the conversation in a lot less time than having to sit through the whole video... 0:01 - 1:02:20 America, Europe and the free (ish), democratic (ish) western world - Stupid hypocritical and BAD. Bad, bad, bad.. Iraq blah blah, Nicaragua, blah blah, WW1 blah blah. Vietnam... et etc. Bad in the past, bad in the present; culpable for the *Russian dictatorship's* invasion of, and war against Ukraine and crimes against humanity therein. 1:02:20 - Analysis of Putin and his poisoning, murderous, gangster regime as a corrupt dictatorship - and the real reason that they are repulsed at the possible emergence of a free democratic Europhile Ukraine (F all to do with NATO). And the moral duty to give Ukraine the support it requests and _allow Ukraine to take the lead_ in deciding how to proceed and deciding what eventual (unjust) concessions it is prepared to make to the murdering aggressor. And (regardless of the tedious broken record looping of anti-western historical whataboutery)... the need to punish Russia's regime for starting a war of choice in Europe, beginning in 2014.. For bare faced lying to the world and UN. 🤔 Oh wait... Oh dearie me. Again it seems we're out of time for that part of the analysis sports fans. Perhaps some other time, when it's on our agenda eh? Well... Hey you didn't seriously expect this exchange to veer off the usual course did you 😉 😁 Slava 🌻🌻🌻!

Thanks👍

@@AndrewTate2Prison are you and I the only ones that see that? Chomsky could be a bit out of touch....

Yeah they typically allow the Left to -speak- _rant_ in lieu of interruption.

What were the questions? Hey fellow bootlicker, what does it feel like being an old bootlicker?

Putin did try to negotiate with Blinken around the end of Jan or early Feb, but he was rejected offhand by Blinken.

@@helen7816 Well if Putin's position was I am going to invade regardless then I don't blame Blinken who seems sensible, clever and decent. I think the wrongs and rights are very clear here. I am sorry the Russians can't get their act together to create a democracy. Shame on them. Putin is utterly dangerous, reckless and yes this could get very much worse. But it's not America's fault at all and the civiluzed non autocratic world seems pretty united in supporting the Ukrainians.

Russia has lied about everything in this war to the west and it's own citizens. They agreed to free pass for Civilians out of Mariupol and when they started leaving they started hitting the refugees with artillery. They did Genocide in Bucha. Russia needs to be stopped full stop.

When has Ukraine tried negotiating? Ukraine was talking about retaking Crimea through force before Russia invaded. If zelenskiyy accepted a deal that didn’t include the return of Crimea which as Noam correctly points out is a non starter, the now well armed Ukrainian far right will kill him and take over the country. The US sees its strategic interest in fighting Russia until the last Ukrainian. It weakens Russia to bog them down in Ukraine. Europe will look for energy elsewhere, possibly to more US imports. And US arm manufacturers are getting even richer flooding Ukraine with weapons. What true US interest is there in a ceasefire?

Noam has the mind of an eminently reasonable and rational man; I think he stumbles a bit when delving into abnormal psychologies; he considers them from within himself. I think this is a common problem with leaders on the left; they've never been messed with much by people of this type on a personal level, because of their status and power; so they don't have a real, intense, familiar understanding of that kind of crazy. They're a bit distant about the level of abuse these people are capable of.

He sure looks like one!

And repeating the Putin line, even though Putin has reverted to RIGHT-wing FASCISM.

@@jnagarya519 Exactly what I kept hearing!

@@jnagarya519 Putin was ALWAYS right-wing. He is basically orthodox neocon (US neocons are usually evangelicals).

@@tulenik71 Uh, no: he was once a "Communist" which is LEFT-wing. "Authoritarian" is right-wing, "totalitarian" is left-wing -- but the impacts of them on the ground are indistinguishable. But in recent speeches Putin has used phrases from Hitler's "Mein Kampf".

@Caller ID I certainly listened to it. But unlike you I don't limit myself to one source.

I'm guessing he is probably writing a book with accompanying film, a la Dirty Wars. Otherwise he might be bored of the show.

@@chrisgrant7450 I really enjoyed his stories, his interviews, his narration. It was comforting after Trump was elected. But he’s busy with lots of other projects I imagine.

Even a legend falls on their sword. Chomsky is round the twist now & anti the right to consent. Go away and listen more carefully to his rantings on the unvaccinated

I couldn’t agree more. Always clear and always positive about the responsibility of each and every one of us to both think for ourselves, find reliable sources of information beyond propaganda and to think about how our actions and inaction (equally important) affect those around us and not just ourselves.

@@SteveLondonE9 he said there’s no evidence that vaccines don’t work and while he believes the necessities of life should still be given to the willingly unvaccinated in the form of material aid they shouldn’t feel they have the right to be contagious in other peoples communities. You talk about the right of consent as if other people have already consented to your giving them viruses

I had similar views but since his views for antivaxx and this idea that Russia is the agressor after what we know what happened with the Minsk agreement and 30 years of Nato encircliment of Russia

He is an extremely important thinker and observer. After reading his "Manufacturing Consent" it changed my perspective. I use his basic media - corporate analysis to explain why we have not addressed climate change.

@jaleel appleseed who hasn’t been?

Russian KGB agent NC

@jaleel appleseed both of them get sponsors from KGB FSB

I thoroughly agree! I’m glad you noticed and commented on it. Scahill deserves a lot of credit for knowing his stuff. Knowing the subject about which one is interviewing a person is important in knowing what questions to ask, what statements to make to provoke thought and response that both guide the direction of an interview and the subsequent information shared by the interviewee. Very good interview with Professor Chomsky, thanks to Jeremy Scahill.

Chomsky's answer is that Ukraine should appease Russia by acceding to Putin's transparently false demands -- which demands are REFUTED by Putin's ACTIONS.

At what cost? Will you join the front line yourself?

@@mikexhotmail If you ask me personally - no. I don't want to neither I know how to fight. I don't think I would be good contribution on the front line - but I could work on IT side of things. I don't advocate forcing people to fight. But so far Ukranians seems to have a will to fight and I'm all for supporting them in it as much as we can.

"Sir"? He was knighted by the imperialist British Crown? But you aren't listening to what he is SAYING, which is that Ukraine should appease Russia by acceding to Putin's demands -- and we see that those are: illegal invasion and genocide.

and now he is basically giving excuses to the russians to do the same. isn't he a sweetheart. every morning when you open up your tv and see new children killed, just remember doctor chomsky and his honorary shit. coz that's what matters.

He always condemns the " West "..! He's been condemning the West for the last 50 years.

Noam Chomsky favorite regimes are Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela, he is a gem.

@@JigilJigil why are you lying?

@@JigilJigil Really??

Try " The Simpsons " ? The intellectual content is higher.

@@2msvalkyrie529 Yeah, I'm sure you're more academically accomplished than Chomsky....

Yeah, and now Chomsky himself engages in manufacturing consent for Russia's war hawks

Vox Terra, Haven't read Manufacturing Consent, but thought it an interesting title from someone who wants to separate others from society and keep them from basic necessities because they did not consent. JS 🤷🏻‍♀️

Shannon, I am sorry to disappoint you. You don't know what courage is.

@@tanyaborysova9327 Thanks for the thought.

@@tanyaborysova9327 Neither does Chomsky; but he is good at making millions through the book-publishing arm of the US capitalist machine by writing books condemning the US capitalist machine. He's also good at keeping those millions in tax-protected investment portfolios.

Appreciate you Mr Chomsky.

Wasn't Wisconsin once a heavily Democratic state? Now it's a state that Republicans can easily win.

Exactly...everything is the fault of the us...rightly so in part but Putin is an independent actor

Exactly, it's everyone else's fault, except the actual aggressor nation. Hitler was just "misunderstood" and had legitimate reasons to feel so "scared" surrounded by evil capitalist/commie pigs from all sides. UwU (sarcasm, in case anyone's digitally illiterate).

If anyone's grandchildren were in the war, you'd want that war to full stop. No little or a lot of aid will make a difference in the casualties.

@@vinlondon8904 I wouldn't want them to be beaten and raped by the enemy, I'd rather give them a chance to defend themselves

@@martiendejong8857 the Azov batallion makes up for 0.5% of Ukrainian armed forces. Insisting that Ukrain is a Neo-nazi Country because of that is just Russian propaganda

No , The Drawback is that you destabilize a Nuclear Nation which has Suitcase and tacticle battlefield Nuclear weapons as well as biological Weapons . Those Weapons will have a vastly greater chance in the future of seeing a Western City. There always are Consequences and sadly Innocent people are always the Victims .

A serious drawback for the US is a strengthened EU, pushing it one step closer (and the biggest step yet) towards a unified, autonomous power. This would make the world much more multipolar and weaken the USA's geopolitical position.

@@johansmifthelry9307 Great point

@@johansmifthelry9307 That is wishful thinking in the short-term. And in the long-term - we are all dead.

All the weapons have been given and not sold

You think this is unbiased? Why does he give no attention to Russian imperialism while endless bringing up American imperialism from unrelated times and conflicts? When russian imperialism is actually the topic at hand. That's not unbiased. Chomsky is one of the most biased people speaking about America. He is completely polarized into supporting whatever isn't american

Search . Noam Chomsky : US IS World's Biggest Terrorist ib the World '

Glenn Greenwald is an extremist ideological hack. Chomsky is that AND a burn-out; he's still living in the pre-McCarthy 1940s-50s.

so maybe we should do our best and try to spread this important talk. I've posted it in my status on skype and WhatsApp, for example, and also forwarded it to my friends. As Chomsky says, it is a lot an individual can do to make a change

Chomsky is the greatest trickster in the world. As a linguist who would never been known he has made a good career of convincing people that he knows what he’s talking about.

@@Aikidoman06 Your conclusion is undeniable sir, all correct thinking people of even average intelligence know that an objective analysis of reality can only lead to trouble and conflict. Far better to go with the current plutocratic narrative, it just works better for everyone that matters.

@@Aikidoman06 Isn't he the one who said that "we", the unvaxxed, should remove ourselves from society, and that it's our Problem how to get food then?

@@Nea-van-R. I don’t know. Everything he says is stupid. He’s always wrong and has made tons of predictions that always fall flat. He just hates America but not enough to leave

Russians ARE NAZIS. You obviously dont even understand what Nazi means.

They also stated the neutralization of Ukraine, but it was kinda packaged with the demilitarization goal.

@Douglas Cummings oh noes our nassi assets : (

The US government doesn’t want this war to end. They are making so much money off of this conflict and so far, it is costing Russia way more than any other country involved. This is a textbook proxy war, and the West is ecstatic over it… Expect this war to last until at least 2023 @Douglas Cummings

The fall of Azov will not change anything because Russia’s argument that there are nazi forces in Ukraine (possibly meaning Azov and not only) is an absolute propagandist statement with no evidence to support it. Therefore, even the fall of the battalion can not serve as a basis for the negotiation. You can not negotiate on terms that simply do not exist.

This comment is so great. I feel the same. I'm scared to lose one of the last sane voices we have in the USA.

@@marshadingle3550 Thank you for your reply, Marsha! It’s great to know People like Chomsky (one of my heroes... well, I don’t really have heroes, because that usually involves the elevation of a person/people above others and ourselves - and most people’s heroes tend to be famous and often somewhat arbitrary from my point of view- but people I admire and respect) is respected by others. Especially in the US. If the voices of Americans, like Professor Chomsky are not heard in America, then we are all in danger of a precarious future.

Chomsky is a fossil. It's obvious he isn't learning anything anymore. Not if it requires him to put down the anti American brand he built his whole life. He is actually wrong about so many things and refuses to answer them directly regarding russian imperialism. It's not refreshing. It's gross

He is still a brilliant mind

Watch : ' Noam Chomsky : US Is World's Biggest Terrorist In The World '

Yeah, so what? He has no idea what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. Does he speak Russian or Ukrainian at all?

@@piotrjanowski9141 and how do you know whats going on?

@@cr34t0red7 Because I live here.

@@piotrjanowski9141 where “here”?? Plus just because you live “there” doesnt mean you know whats going on!

Professor Chomsky is the top public intellectual but Rich Medhurst is doing a great job on this conflict, check him out!

Also follow the commentary of Scott Ritter, Ray McGovern, Alexander Mercouris, Col. Douglas MacGregor,, Patrick Lancaster, Dr. Gerald Horne, The New Atlas, The Grayzone, etc

Prof Chomsky has had a glittering career as an arm chair critic of US foreign policy. His memory is impeccable, but that only pertains to the authenticity of what he has read. In his analysis of foreign countries however has always been through a chauvinistic lens of western superiority. He is ultimately ineffectual in dealing with the thick layers of lies spouted by the west in the geopolitical arena and falls victim to these lies, despite maintaining his criticisms of the US. He really needs to retire.

@@platosbeard4449 It's true..I don't find his analysis specific enough..he makes way too many broad sweeping generalisations. Afterall, geopolitics really isn't his field. He's more of a linguist and social critic than a credible political scientist.

@@cupiduspacis4209 All good People. With the mountains of propaganda that MSM is subjecting the populations to it's important to have legitamate sources of information one can turn to.

@@boctunes1853 fucking insightful

On this issue they have their heads so far up their own and each others asses that they appear normal to the uncritical eye -- and ear.

They carry water for the Kremlin

This.

I agree. I am no expert or even a student of politics, however Putin has made his intentions clear time after time. He wants the old USSR back and wants to be king of. Negotiations?? How do you negotiate with a madman? Giving in the only negotiation he would accept. Going into the history of what the US has done in the past and maybe has not been sufficiently punished for accomplishes nothing. Let's deal with the here and now. You cannot sanction a country's leader without sanctioning it's people too. Maybe if the populace suffers enough they will realize that their great leader is a liar and is actually the one punishing them. Although that has not worked here. 45 is still ensnaring his rabbits.

There is only so much that can be discussed within the timeframe. Do note that Chomsky did not say Putin had to be involved at all, only that being a war criminal per se isn't a hindrance. Nor did he include Zelensky, as he was talking about the states Russia and Ukraine. When you say "Western", do you mean American or European? They are not the same. The suggestions Chomsky made were purely based on the positions Russia and Ukraine publicly already stated, not what is desired. That a negotiated peace is the only option for a future Ukraine is rather evident, as if Ukraine seem to threaten Russia with military conquest, Putin will press the red button and if Russia seem to destroy Ukraine with military force, there is no button to threaten Russia with. So there are two fundamental questions here: How to arrange a negotiation with both countries actively seeking a resolution, and how to ensure that such agreements are kept? Only after those two questions has been answered is there any point looking into details of what an agreement should contain, as Kremlin can simply not be taken on their word or signature.

His "advice" is that Ukraine should appease IMPERIALIST Russia by ceding to Russia's IMPERIALIST demands.

@FriedIcecreamIsAReality Debatable, I see it more as a soft dictatorship. I'm Canadian.

That's not how it works in the real world, take the Cuban crisis as example.

@@PandemoniumMeltDown What other path would Canada like to take? Also, consider the fact that if Canada ever were attacked, you wouldn't really have to defend yourselves. The US would do it for you.

@@ericsuarez834 Certainly the US did intervene to some degree in Cuba, but we didn't bomb into rubble. We also intervened with the USSR's actions (putting nukes in Cuba). Overall, it was vastly less than what the USSR/Russia did with Ukraine and the whole Warsaw pact. You're drawing a false equivalence.

@@ericsuarez834 In Cuba Russia threaten the USA directly with atomic bombs on their front-door. Nato never did something like that with Russia. Also USA did not invade and occupied Cuba because of the Russian threat these times, they talked.

When did Chomsky ever say that? He jut said he's the only person who suggested we should do that, anyone could do it theyd just have to be pushed into doing it. I dont think Trump would even be allowed to do that if he was in office

Yes, after I read Chomsky in the early 90's I saw our media in a completely different light, he influences my speaking to this day.

Yeah, and after so much wait we have to listen to this horseshit

What you mean "all,"? And it can't be proven that there is a "God". Oh, right: "God" permits mass slaughter, and then we praise "Him" as "merciful," and ask for MORE of the same "blessings". Ever notice that your "God" is on EVERY side in EVERY war? And that your "merciful God" never steps in and stops the bloodshed? Perhaps if "He" were less enthusiastic about "objectively" supporting ALL sides "He" wouldn't be paralyzed with indecision.

God, ha, now there's a war criminal if ever there was.

Oh Lord above, fantasy land here we come, all marching into the marvellous world where everyone is free to do whatever they want with no rules, all marching to our hearts, and everyone has everything they want and all live in marvellous houses, and no one has to work 9-5 because that would be terrible. Whereas those lucky mediaeval peasants had such a lovely relaxed life style, definitely not working dawn till dusk then going back to a stinking cold dark hut.

But see Timpthy Snyder for the actual history of which Chomsky seems blithely unaware.

Shaw was a good theatrical turn . Nothing more . And , like , Chomsky ,an apologist for Communist murderers. Bertrand Russell saw through both of these " useful idiots "....! As Lenin rightly described them..

Hmm, just wondering aloud whether Chomsky recommended Saddam reach a negotiation with the US during the Iraq invasion. Or was he possibly just calling for the US to leave immediately. Have to stroke my beard a bit longer to figure that one out.

Would you like to be surrounded by hostile nations? How would the US react to that situation?

@@gregor9189 As You noticed from my first comment, I am Romanian. Throughout history, we fought-off the Roman Empire, The Ottoman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire and other smaller nations/tribes. We are Latin people surrounded by Slavs. So, yes we are already surrounded by "hostile nations" like Russia. I was born under the Soviet Iron Curtain - thanks Russia!

@@gregor9189 what about when the options are having hostile neighbors and capitulate if you're the weaker party or having hostile neighbors and invading for the stronger? Just keeping the hostile neighbor seems to be the most reasonable base state for both.

@@Eusantdac You made the incorrect assumption that Noam Chomsky considers us Eastern Europeans human beings, capable of having our own preferences and agency.

@@fdr3898 Well, that is exactly the problem: people only seem to want to talk about what the US wants, or what Russia wants, or what China wants. Smaller countries do not seem to matter. Like who cares what Romanians want, or Ukrainians want, or what people in Taiwan want. It's all about what Imperial powers want - that's all that is ever discussed and I do not think that is right.

It is much more violent in India

@@mzakuta maybe , but not to mention China at all? As if nothing wrong happens there … don’t you think it’s odd?

China's action targets muslim separatists, not the general muslim population.

@@a.k.6059 Chomsky is notorious for directing his critique at the US and those he considers the US's lackeys. The others often get a free pass.

T Turtle not really, he just doesn’t pretend like these cia shills crying about uyghers. If a large population of uyghers were in the us they would’ve exterminates them already lmao

Exactly

The US had no control over Corruption and political incompetence in 3rd World countries as well ethno-nationalist and centuries old religious disputes. Like everything in Life it takes two.

I disagree. Think about some of the things that had the most profound impacts on quality of life since 1900…medical, electronics and automotive. I’d strongly argue that America’s technical leadership has improved the lives of the world many times over. Do these products have to be purchased? Yes, mostly. Does this mean the world is ‘stealing’ from the world? Hardly… Along with the bad of capitalism comes an insane amount of good that many forget to give credit for. America is not Russia, forcibly subjecting its culture on those they interact with. Sure, the US tries to get others to follow a democratic track of government, but few can dispute that autocracies are better than democracy for the world as a whole. The US has been/is far from perfect but they sure have done a lot of good for everyone, yet many love to villain-ize the US because American values put autocracies in danger. I’m open to hearing a counter-argument on this.

@@a2xd94 As you wish: Banana-republic. The thing pulled into question is not whether inventions done in USA has been of benefit to the world, but that the US administration actively is seeking political and military supremacy to support economical supremacy as well. Yes, USA puts autocracies in danger, but are just as likely to put democracies in danger as well, the obedience to Washington the determining factor followed by the weakness of the target.

@@johanmetreus1268 I think it would be silly to think that the superpowers would NOT seek to align others with themselves. What examples do you have of the US endangering democracies in their attempts to further Pax Americana?

What receipts? Chomsky lost his marbles. He’s old and rtrded