Nobody Could Have Predicted Smash Ultimate at Double Down

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Double Down 2022 will go down in history as one of the most unpredictable Smash Ultimate majors of all time. With countless top player upsets, a shocking appearance of MkLeo's ROB, and a victory for ProtoBanham, we've got you covered on everything that happened in Vegas!
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@pgstats 2 года назад

Hey everyone, it's been pointed out that Axel uses They/Them pronouns. We sincerely apologize for this error, as we were referring to their listed start.gg profile's pronouns (He/They) to address them. We will be more diligent when it comes to double-checking details like this in the future.

@alb7466 2 года назад

🤓

@FormerlyAdGuy 2 года назад

From Guilty Gear?

@Noba46688 2 года назад

@@alb7466 ratio + reactionary; automatic L

@KAJYT6969 2 года назад

Who cares? you already said it was on their profile, no need to apologize

@girafee3454 2 года назад

@@Noba46688 😂

@theimpersonator7086 2 года назад

Seeing as Japan has been dominating NA majors for the last 2 months, a PG Stats video that really dives into the country and breaks down its top talent would be very cool. Whether it be one large video on the country, or multiple videos covering different areas like Kanto, Kansai, etc. It would be good for those in NA who understandably dont follow Japan that closely.

@gdfyredragan2270 2 года назад

Totally agree with this, would love to learn more about the country’s competitive scene

@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 2 года назад

Wait Kanto's real?

@Newbmann 2 года назад

Mentions Kanto kansai Ignores Osaka. You either just mention tokyo or tokyo osaka and other cities.

@yohfusagawa9494 2 года назад

@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 Yeah, Kanto is real but everything after 2nd gen isn’t if you’re talking about Pokémon lol

@Simon-hs7ik 2 года назад

Japan players are ranked unfairly low and the best way to solve that is to give more value to JP tournaments like officially considering Maesumas supermajors and giving kagaribis higher value.

@matchamixing 2 года назад

9:57 Please never do this again

@shadynn11 2 года назад

Finally I hadn’t seen someone call out that monstrosity that we had the misfortune of hearing

@KevSB07 2 года назад

Whoever is responsible (the person repping that insane tag) must be cackling when they see this

@damarihanson3876 2 года назад

I wish I had never gone on to the timestamp. I did not want to hear that again...

@theimpersonator7086 2 года назад

One under discussed story about Double Down would be Tea. His performance at Ult Summit 4 is looking more and more like bad bracket luck combined with a out of line underperformance from him. Ever since Summer of Smash started, Tea won a NA major and his lowest placing overall has been third. Even got a lot of good wins like Dabuz, Kola, Shuton, Ken, etc. Really seems like his main issues now are Leo/Sparg0 and that Japan is better than NA vs Pacman for obvious reasons. Someone get Tea and Maister sponsors already lol.

@crunchproductions2276 2 года назад

Yeah I was surprised to see him unsponsored this tourney

@Parthian6 2 года назад

Maister is sponsored by Moist Esports.

@theimpersonator7086 2 года назад

@@Parthian6 Moist Esports is repping Maister till he gets a Sponsor, different thing

@starrk6966 2 года назад

They aren’t sponsored that crazy

@curiosityunbound5460 2 года назад

For some reason it's very rare for Japanese players to get sponsors. He deserved one years ago, let alone now. Sometimes NA orgs pic up out of region players, hopefully someone picks him up soon.

@BlackCatCards 2 года назад

9:58 none of those words are in the bible

@fireatack 2 года назад

PGstats could do a deep dive into Japan's online ladder system, which is brewing a lot of good talent like hero, Acola, yoshidora. It also is a great platform to study the diverse character list of this game. I truly believe NA is struggling because they can't play niche characters like Steve and min min, but Japan can cause they have the ladder system.

@l.n.3372 2 года назад

Is Steve niche anymore tho? In America, there's Jake, Yonni and Onin (who won GOML 2022). Obviously Acola isn't always in North America, but that's still 3 Steve mains who tend to place well.

@krusher181 2 года назад

@@l.n.3372 clearly Steve isn’t niche, this comment just made a mistake saying that. Everything else they bring up… might be true

@cyan6991 2 года назад

@@krusher181 they meant niche as in, needing very specific counter play. min min isnt exactly "niche" either, she's rather strong and has a couple of top players representing her, it's just a somewhat uncommon and very unorthodox matchup

@l.n.3372 2 года назад

@@krusher181 The comment is still flawed. They're saying that Japan is better prepared for "niche" play and counterplay because of their ladder system. But that isn't always true either. Acola dominated Japan before the Gimvitational. How is Japan better at counterplay then, if they can't counter Acola either? Seems like it's either Steve is much harder to counter than we think, or idk.

@wunnaaaaa 2 года назад

“Online ladder system” no, we don’t care

@jiyu3027 2 года назад

Missed opportunity to mention Kola with the largest popoff ever known to man.

@thegrimoutlaw4732 2 года назад

Protos and kolas and Dabuz were pretty close lol

@jiyu3027 2 года назад

@@thegrimoutlaw4732 Kola outranks them because of his hard flex at the end

@yukon_2 2 года назад

love PGStats thanks for putting in the work to produce these polished videos

@hypersnake7904 2 года назад

9:56 such effort put into this one bit

@tsubsgutierrez4732 2 года назад

Especially at 2:20 😃

@KCDWolf 2 года назад

Boom4Eva -Who exactly is EVA? -Why are you Blooming for her? -Does she even want you to BLOOM for her? -Is Eva forcing you to BLOOM for her? So many questions, very little answers...

@KevSB07 2 года назад

Boom!

@duke4088 2 года назад

Why doesn't PGStats ever talk about Tea? Probably the hypest set of the tournament in winners semis vs Leo, finished 3rd beating everyone except his bracket demon, no coverage on his win at Crown 2 and very little is said about his second place finish at BOBC4. Literally 3rd best results of Japan this summer after Acola and Proto who each participated in 1 tournament that they won.

@VSQUAD Год назад

Tea 3-0d Kola, Sonix, Cosmos and Goblin. 3-1d Dabuz. Only losing Leo. He had the most dominant performance easily. I feel like proto got lucky he didn’t run into tea.

@brualdasil2 2 года назад

Pgstats has been killing it lately with the quality, frequency, and speed of the uploads. Whenever I can't watch a major, I feel just fine knowing that I'll be informed of everything relevant through your videos. Huge thanks from a fan from Brazil :)

@pinklemonadeschannel 2 года назад

1:54 is that esam in the back popping off there

@KCDWolf 2 года назад

Finally someone else slay the king ! No I don't hate Leo I just like to cheer for the underdog. Proto's Min Min offstage play is insane.

@alexmitchell2581 2 года назад

I don't hate Proto, I just hate Min Min

@blackbluem1210 2 года назад

Yeah but he made grand finals boring

@DSmith3279 2 года назад

I'm so happy and proud to be apart of Double Down this year. I didn't make it very far in bracket, but it was still the most fun I've ever had at a Smash related event. Next year, I'll be more prepared for the insane competition ^_^

@krusher181 2 года назад

Good luck

@SS2Balls 2 года назад

The dabuz segment tho. Also coney loves rob lmao. I like the funniness that was brought here. Makes the stats even better. Love ya Pog stats

@ErinLynagh 2 года назад

This is an amazing video, please make more like this!!!

@gameandflogchannel 2 года назад

There is a Smash major next weekend though, Phantom 2022 is happening in Australia and it’s a Platinum tier event

@ry-x 2 года назад

Phantom won't be a major for Ultimate

@toowiggly 2 года назад

What the fuck is an Australia?

@gameandflogchannel 2 года назад

@@ry-x It counts as a major though, since it’s Platinum tier

@bensteinebronn4947 2 года назад

Crazy how they didn’t talk about the marss riddles match for THIRTY THIRD

@Imboredlol 2 года назад

I never want to hear you say [0.0]n11ChaN^.^-A-wOw again

@jarroddobben 2 года назад

Two back to back bits at 9:55 took me out, pgstats and their narrators are really doing their best to be funny as fuck and informative at the same time

@thatcomona 2 года назад

I am not L4st :D

@jarroddobben 2 года назад

@@thatcomona apologies, should've been a bit more diligent instead of just assuming, and I'll edit out the mistake. If it helps, both you and l4st are fantastic in these videos.

@strikerv1816 2 года назад

Don’t let this distract your from the fact that kola had to run the fp2 gauntlet and did really well

@Jabc0m 2 года назад

its so hype to see you guys talk about Rocke, he games not being on a stream was a crime

@budee949 Год назад

These are the most highly produced vids about Smash I've seen! Though the Secret Base/Jon Bois inspiration feels a little *too* strong at times lmao.

@thegrimoutlaw4732 2 года назад

Double down was incredible! Props to The Iceman!!! Mkleos Rob is DOPE!!!! INCREDIBLE SMASH SETS!!!

@Suzaku_Mizutani 2 года назад

While the video said it was unfortunate, I sincerely hope that the competitors for Smash Factor take it easy this week in order for the week after to be even more hype, when they are fully rested.

@anwnerd1762 2 года назад

Even with all of that you didn't mention shoe's upset over riddles and Marss getting 33rd again

@jonma4570 2 года назад

Tea, ken and kola be like "where's my shout-out"

@michaellee4856 2 года назад

fr i was waiting for the Kola vs FP2 revenge tour narrative lol

@voyt8tele363 2 года назад

coney kinda predicted double down tho

@WowSuchPerfectWorld 2 года назад

I'm so stoked to see Jahzzo being mentioned in videos like these!!! Wow. My little Jay-z is all grown up.

@MeesterTweester 2 года назад

While Joker and Pythra are hard to fight, out of Leo's characters R.O.B. probably had the best matchup against Min Min. The gyro holds down the stage well and the gyro into side B combos can be lethal if Min Min is too far off stage.

@hecty8667 2 года назад

the downside is that rob is way easier to hit and it was really hard for Leo to get off ledge and not getting edgeguarded.

@krusher181 2 года назад

He barely used side b off stage…

@krusher181 2 года назад

@@hecty8667 tbh I think Leo was just having fun

@hecty8667 2 года назад

@@krusher181 eh, he was still tryharding but when he saw his plan didn’t work (corrin) he tried a last minute rob and it worked pretty well.

@krusher181 2 года назад

@@hecty8667 yeah I mean after the bracket reset he could have tried a lot harder. He didn’t switch off Rob. Clearly didn’t care all that much about the event or something

@lightningquiz7924 2 года назад

9:38 Hades actually makes sense for the pronunciation, but you just say it letter for letter H 4 D S

@MeesterTweester 2 года назад

It looks like "hads" lol

@ryft9345 2 года назад

Rlly surprised and disappointed that Colossel (Which had more entrants) didn't get a video of its own despite it being at over 1K entrants. EU will continue to be slept on 😔😔

@weaponleonX 2 года назад

Yeah, it was an amazing tournament too

@RosaMunwalker Год назад

11:57 the soundtrack is from an pokemon game or castlevania game from nds era i guess

@marlon1945 2 года назад

This might be leo’s chance to bring back the greninja. He does really good against minmin and lucina

@birdn3ck741 2 года назад

surprised bloom didn’t get a mention at all considering how he got 13th at his first NA major only a week after getting 4th at colossel where he beat gluto amongst others

@PKMNTrainerVic 2 года назад

You guys gonna make videos on Phantom in Australia since a couple of top melee players are attending

@MeesterTweester 2 года назад

10:09 Flag of Georgia the country

@PokenCarder 2 года назад

Phantom is literally happening next weekend

@verfuncht 2 года назад

As soon as I saw how well Axel was doing against Leo, I immediately went to WaDi’s Twitch in the hopes that he would be watching. I was not disappointed

@emilianolopez7369 2 года назад

Didn’t mention kolas influential popoff :(

@SantaLee2.0 2 года назад

I’m glad someone finally recognized axel, the true low tier warrior.

@watermel 2 года назад

As a Japanese this tournament was unbelievably hype, I feel like double down is just the beginning of japans uprising to become the next Mexico and dominate the smash meta

@ringss_ 2 года назад

Looking at Battle of BC 4, it was almost foreshadowing

@l.n.3372 2 года назад

The next Mexico? I'm pretty sure Japan has frequently been known to be the #1 region. They even beat USA/North America on most previous crew battles, too. Until Double Down, when USA/Canada got the win.

@Diamond_Aura 2 года назад

Is there a video that can explain how PGR works and what SPR is? I love the analysis in this video but I’m missing parts of the lingo necessary to understand it fully

@pgstats 2 года назад

Link in the description!

@Diamond_Aura 2 года назад

@@pgstats oh thank you so much! I really ought to get in a better habit of at least checking that before I ask questions.

@Jackaljkljkl 2 года назад

Everyone should get a pocket MIn-Min, just for Steve.

@hakirayleigh 2 года назад

11:00 Great moment for Isabelle mains, getting better results than her "better version" Villager.

@coolersspaceship7964 2 года назад

#unban nairo

@lorion2539 2 года назад

Outro theme: Pokemon Black/White, Black City theme

@starrk6966 2 года назад

I’m surprised Leo didn’t go joker for min min because he absolutely embarrassed Dabuz in that matchup but idk I suck at this game 🤷‍♀️😂

@veridian727 2 года назад

9:57 Why

@KevSB07 2 года назад

9:58 o god I’m both dead and revived from this

@ArynBacklogDragon 2 года назад

okay, I'm still shocked people aren't talking more about Jake vs Proto here. People have been going on and on about banning Steve, yet when someone comes in and absolutely obliterates one of the best Steves around, no one talks about it?

@thegrimoutlaw4732 2 года назад

Also Kazuya lol. No noise from anyone

@l.n.3372 2 года назад

Tbh, Min Min is considered to be equally oppressive and toxic (and a non traditional Smash character) too. When one beats the other, it's not a victory, it's just a clash of awkward lol

@ArynBacklogDragon 2 года назад

@@l.n.3372 not really, Min Min's weakness are a lot more pronounced and she's not as over centralizing as Steve. people have been going on and on about how broken Steve is and there's nothing anyone can do against him, yet when we have an example of an under represented character completely dismantling him, people should talk about it I feel.

@l.n.3372 2 года назад

@@ArynBacklogDragon I'd say not really to you, because Japan had been complaining about Min Min for far longer than Americans are now complaining about Steve. But in the end, they're both frustrating characters to play against and to watch.

@ArynBacklogDragon 2 года назад

@@l.n.3372 well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that last one. I do enjoy watching high level Min Min (I dunno, maybe because they're so hated I kinda feel like rooting for the underdog). also, are you liking your own comments?

@CoffeeFields101 2 года назад

9:57 jumpscare

@CatherinetheMewsthebestMTB 2 года назад

What's spr stand for again

@imESAM 2 года назад

2:12 tHAT'S ME :)

@sachitechless 2 года назад

*gestures broadly at Phantom 2022, literally a Platinum SWT event*

@TheTechnicalityGuy 2 года назад

A Platinum SWT event isn't automatically a major.

@MaximumNaCl 2 года назад

@@TheTechnicalityGuy take a look at the melee bracket and then say that it isnt a big tourney.

@MeesterTweester 2 года назад

The probably mean it isn't an Ultimate major in scale. Just because it's Platinum doesn't mean it's a major, Ultra Hard wasn't and they are gave Platinum to a variety of regions at the start of the year without knowing who was attending ahead of time.

@MeesterTweester 2 года назад

@@MaximumNaCl But this is an Ultimate video, sure Melee has out of region players but Ultimate just has Nietono.

@MaximumNaCl 2 года назад

@@MeesterTweester I think this is 2 more Japanese players iirc. Yeah ik it's ultimate and not melee but still kinda cringe they didn't at least mention it. They are probs only going to mention it for a bit because of the melee players. Otherwise they will just do what they did with bam and give it like 2 mins where it's littered with incorrect info.

@shewple5801 2 года назад

with rocke we ball

@TheOGShiv 2 года назад

R.O.B Supremacy reigns true

@emiliomendez4961 2 года назад

the Dabuz copy pasta plus the Oni Chan part nearly killed me, I don't know if I can continue to watch this videos

@taillord4644 2 года назад

Wait what about phantom 2022 and just roll with it 2022

@jaydencuccio4960 2 года назад

9:55 wtf

@shrek3706 2 года назад

Why didn’t you cover Tea’s insane run?

@ZHL242 Год назад

6:55 is the most unathletic popoff I've ever seen lmao

@gerardoalanis4016 2 года назад

Proto's Min min y the Tweek's DK from SM4SH era, MKLeo found his weakness one more time.

@nathanlevesque7812 2 года назад

Leo truly hates Min Min for being the real distance demon.

@VarsVerum 2 года назад

That oniichan name was… Jesus

@nathanlevesque7812 2 года назад

I could have gone on without learning how to pronounce that tag with ChaN in it...

@MKsomething_ 2 года назад

Still no video about the 2nd biggest smash ultimate tournament of the year 💀

@zooker7938 2 года назад

THE ISABELLE AGENDA CONTINUES

@HiImAiden 2 года назад

lmao Jake's pop off

@olympian543 2 года назад

I’m sure it’s a common term but I don’t know what SPR is. Can someone explain it please?

@arthurboureau1364 2 года назад

Smash power ranking

@pgstats 2 года назад

Seed performance rating.

@olympian543 2 года назад

@@pgstats ok thanks. And if you have a positive SPR like +4 does that help determine future seed placements?

@lebigpeanutguy9996 2 года назад

Nobody except coney apparently

@rickyterheege20duitseherde36 Год назад

Kazuya carries people

@Shmossis 2 года назад

Except coney

@krusher181 2 года назад

MkLeo is the best player of all time in ultimate. He’s so special.

@eighto3346 2 года назад

ITS H-4-D-S NOT HADES

@BEATNGU95 2 года назад

Lol Jakes pop off, Gackts like tf going on 🙂

@BSCTDrayden 2 года назад

not mentioning bloom getting 13th in his first NA tourney, second oor, and beating Kome is a wee bit stinky imo

@iopendoors6914 2 года назад

H4DS is not pronounced hades lmfao

@Spyder-Marth 2 года назад

Regarding this tournament I'm glad it happened because it proved that Steve can be beat. Proto beat Jake's Steve with Min Min, then Kola beat Jake's Steve with Cloud. As a side note, Onin's Steve lost to Ned's Sephiroth at the Warpzone tournament. People have no argument about Steve dominating the meta at this point. There's clearly counterplay but as seen, only a small amount of pros actually took the time to study the MU. What's sad is that after all of the Steve rage, NOBODY is talking about this. Like... nobody.

@waffle1788 2 года назад

AC went Snake not meta knight btw axel is stupid good at that matchup

@Hugo_Prolovski 2 года назад

Dabuz is Joyboy

@justaveraeg 2 года назад

BUZBY TOP 4 LETS GOOO

@Simon-hs7ik 2 года назад

One thing for sure though no one predicted all the DQs 💀

@number2777 Год назад

If you kept up with the top players prior, you would have known smh

@rivers3k Год назад

omg i made it in a vid

@codedvortex8522 2 года назад

Pokemon little cup showdown, lol nice

@PurposeDriven7_ 2 года назад

Still don’t understand why Mkleo didn’t go joker against proto.

@BeyondFables 2 года назад

He didn’t feel his Joker was ready

@jppj8356 2 года назад

@@BeyondFables check his twitter, he said he could've but didn't want to

@PurposeDriven7_ 2 года назад

@@jppj8356 exactly

@BeyondFables 2 года назад

@@jppj8356 I saw his Twitter, that’s what I based my statement on.

@Kalimier777 2 года назад

Sad no major.. BUT HEY!! I have yet to not thoroughly enjoy a PGStats video.

@Kowjja Год назад

And Marss got...

@iv624 2 года назад

Honestly I think Tea just killed Leo’s confidence with Joker. Lol jk but in all seriousness we did not see Joker at all after that match. If leo’s more confident with Rob than with Joker that has to say something

@romaortiz6140 2 года назад

It's not about confidence, he just was too tired to play Joker at the highest level. If he wasn't confident on his Joker he wouldn't have locked himself in that character against 8 stocks of 3 of japan's best players. And he was still able to take 5 of those stocks, losing to Tea's Kazuya afterwards sholdn't have taken away any confidence from him.

@KevSB07 2 года назад

I mean it’s not like tea outplayed the joker itself, he’s zero-to-deathed him