Hi there. First time watching you. Been wanting to buy and install a charger for a year now. Just couldn’t decide. Excellent review. Thank you for your time brother 👍🏻
I’m not a pro fisherman and only go out on my boat every couple weeks. Do you think the 10 amp (5 per bank) will be enough for me……. Plus my space is very limited. Also. If you have time, can you explain why my boat has TWO cranking batteries from the factory….?24’ SeaHunt Center Console. Thank you man. Just ordered my Noco today
My noco saved me today. Hadn’t charged it fully since last season and this season my boat battery died at the Marina gas station. Grabbed it and jumped my batteries super quick no problem. Looking into these now.
great video, bought it. The noco tech I talked to told me they do not make extensions for this charger. He told me to buy #14 AWG wire and splice it myself.
The #14AWG wire is fine for up to 10’ TOTAL (from charger chassis to battery terminals). Anything longer, but under 15’ TOTAL = 12AWG. Anything longer, but under 20’TOTAL = 10AWG. Make sure your connections are done “well” (crimp with proper connector AND crimping tool). And ALWAYS be careful not to use cheap Chinesium “CCA” type “Copper Wire”. It’s actually copper CLAD aluminum wire. The quality is abhorrent and the load handling is significantly less than “pure” copper. Be cautious. And Good Luck!
Great review. You are right on these Nocos Dustin. I had the yellow and black brand in my Whaler at a slip (in saltwater) and corrosion was starting. This thing is a sealed brick. It is also capable of charging my 3 new lithium iron phosphate batteries, 2 of which are in a 24 volt configuration for my Xi5 trolling motor. Each battery gets one set of leads-that's it. Simple. I almost bought a separate 24V charger thinking that was necessary, but it wasn't! PS - I laughed out loud at your "unboxing" segment. Hilarious. I feel the same way about those. Other than just simply stating or showing what comes with it, why do I want to watch a guy take plastic and cardboard apart for 20 minutes of my life (that I can't get back)?
I bought my first Noco 12 years ago. That one was the best one I’ve ever had. Since then in the last three years they have had to send me four new units because all of them went bad. I believe they are making them in Mexico now and not in the United States. The quality has went down quite a bit. I run a high-performance bass boat and actually put it in a carpeted box to keep out of the elements and two of the banks still went bad. Don’t recommend getting this unit. The only good thing is they do have a three-year warranty. Used to be five, so they will replace it when you send it into them.
6feet. You have to splice between the fuses and the connectors. Noco does not make a quick connect extension for its on board chargers, contrary to the video.
Trollers pull max 50amp but average about 30. Really need a converter but a 15amp per channel charger can make a huge difference and extend your run time.
So with 4 of the same year make and model marine batteries connected in series. Do I purchase this and only connect one set of charger leads and if so shush leads on which battery if preferred , or connect all 4 sets of leads- one for each battery ?
I have a 3 bank and my 2nd battery is 2 years old and the charger is flashing all the signs below the meter.I charged all the batteries separately with a different charger and it still happened.Any tips would be great
If it's a flooded battery check the fluid levels. All your batteries should be the same age or you immediately do damage to the others. Replace them all at once.
So if i want to charge the battery on my boat which is a 12volt lead acid, I should set the Noco to the first battery symbol on the Noco before the AGM symbol?
Hello Dustin. you mention that there is an extension available for this genius 10x4 charger. I need one as one of my batteries is more than 6ft from where the charger mounts. I looked on their site and did not see this extension.
About the same type of unboxing I did on mine. Am I correct in assuming that there's no provision for the vehicle's (boat, truck, RV, etc) charging system to charge the rest of the batteries through this? The alternator, generator, solar, etc, will actively charge battery #1, (or whatever it's tied into) but cannot use this to keep the other batteries charged? Which would require some other distribution/isolation circuitry to allow ~this~ charger to remain isolated on all of the batteries... so... where's the benefit of the 4 isolated channels at that point? It seems like a good quality piece, and I've been ~very~ impressed with the other NOCO jump-packs I've bought, but it seems to me that they left out an important function here, in that the ~only~ way to charge the non-primary batteries is on shore/AC power. Is there something I'm missing here?
The benefit is repair mode, it independently treats each battery correctly and tests them. This is more for when you get home you plug it in like for a fishing boats trolling batteries where it's frequently 24v or 36v systems, yet it's best to charge them individually as 12v batteries. If you want the full array of features you listed at this quality it would be triple the cost, and it wouldn't be classified as a battery maintainer. This is a maintainer, not a battery management system which is what you described.
Thanks for the vid. Good info. I'm new to boating and just installed a Genius 5x2. Need to get up to speed on how to use it correctly. Love the "unboxing". LOL Gotta keep it light, right? Totally agree on the installation also. The tabs they use make it simple and easy.
So right about battery maintenance is overlooked, have a couple of NOCOs on different equipment and its hasn't failed me yet. Thank you for sharing, good information.
I had two on two different boats. Both of them failed in less than a year. Warranty voided because I extended the house battery lead. I will not purchase another Noco product.
It will require the use of a generator and the appropriate 3 bank charger. It can be done but honestly if you need more power while on the water you need to dive into Lithium. The cost is within a acceptable level now & the run time is DOUBLE of lead acid or AGM. I just bought 24v@60ah with a charger for $600 & it's only 35# witch is equivalent to the 2-31class AGMs I had that were 120ah. Same run time, same cost, 1/2 the weight, 1/2 the space. .... if I required more run time I could have went with 100ah but the cost goes up considerably.
Stupid question but can this top off batteries through boating season if not plugged in? I don’t have shore power at my marina but looking to use this in case my battery runs down so I can start motors when at sand bar and stereo running it down.
This is an impossible question to answer. Environment, load use, temperature, charger quality, etcetera.... in a boat, in the midwest, not stored in a climate controlled environment with an average use of 15-20x per year: I get average 3yrs but 5 could be normal for your area.
The box and all these other NOCO Genius chargers say "40 amps" or "up to 40 amps". Is this to say it is useless for charging batteries rated higher than 40 amp hours or is it/that referring to something else?!?!? Many Marine Deep Cycles are rated 100 amp hours and even higher. Seeing this question a lot on other channels as well. Thank you!!!
If a charger is rated for 40amps & it's a 4 channel charger then it only provides 10amps per channel. The 100ah rating is discharge capacity & has nothing to do with charging.
Anybody know if this can do a bank of 12 volt lithium and a bank of 12 volt AGM at the same time? I have only upgraded two of my banks to lithium thus far.
Does the type of battery selected to be charge need selected every time the charger is plugged in or does it keep its memory so I can plug in and not worry about it’s settings
Hi Dustin- thx for this vid- educating the ignorant (me) and I appreciate it. But I really do have other questions I'm hoping you and/or your subscribers can answer for me... FIRST- I've got a 12.5 ft alum rowboat, with a 42lb / 12v trolling motor, and an Optima blue top D27M - and I already own a small "green wall" charger, takes about 2.5 days for a full "green charge". Me, and a buddy, 200lb a piece, 1 battery, 1 motor, and no other electronics right now. (Maaaaybe a small electronic fish "liar" coming soon- havent decided. 1) Do you mount this charger in the boat? I run my rowboat into an ENCLOSED landscape type trailer, fits beautiful, and snug, and allows me to leave most of my gear inside ;) 2) So I'd need to run some wires into the trailer, right? Is it worth doing this? I eventually I may upgrade to two 12v batteries, but not yet. 3) Stupidest question-- this don't STORE a charge in them, to be able to charge on the water right? Is that worth looking into? We fish small rivers and ponds/lakes, and we've run low a handful of times (it's why we store small canoe paddles).....
No the charger doesn't store charge itself. If your current charger takes 2.5 days it must be below 2amps. I understand your minimal lifestyle needs. Your setup probably doesn't need a "onboard charger" just get a quality home charger with terminal clamps. You can pick up something usually big enough to even jump a dead bat. For under $75. Be very careful adding weight to a small boat but a 2nd battery should allow you to run all weekend without needing a charge.
@@DustinApple Cool Dustin, thanks for the fast reply! I ran out and checked my 'green wall charger' and found it's only 750 milli!!?!?!? (Nearly fainted) So it's time to upgrade anyway! THANKS!
Hey Dustin, May be a dumb question but for this charger are there amperage requirements coming from the outlet in the wall and also what extension power cord would you recommend to use?
Can you charge your batteries with this charger with a generator while using the batteries for your trolling motor? Is that hard on the batteries or the troller?
I have a 36 volt minnkota and I have been using a 36v golf cart charger for years. I stay out for 12 hours at a time with no problems. You have to get one with high amps mine is 25 amps
Hey i have a semi truck with 4 batterys in series, do u think it will charge my battery's by just putting 1 positive and 1 negative for all 4 battery's?
Hi Dustin just ran across your video on this charger and I thank you for taking the time to review it. My question is the same as mamajuana343 question.. I also have a Semi truck with 6 AGM class 31 batteries all connected to each other by the OEM battery cables for a 12v system, If I install this charger and hook up 4 of the battery that are connected to each other will it cause the charger to malfunction since all 6 batteries are connected together in a series and actually act as 1 battery for a 12 volt system? Sorry if it's confusing and this may be a question for the manufacturer.. Thank you for the video and the product review have a great day and a fantastic tomorrow!!
@@fredricks240 your batteries are in parallel, not a series. Semi trucks, at least in the USA, are running 12v. A single charger will charge all of the batteries assuming the charger is pushing enough amps (greater than whatever is drawing them down).
Deep cycling refers to a battery's capacity not its type. Your battery is either flooded led acid, Absorbed Glass Mat, gel, or lithium. 95% of boaters are running either flooded or AGM. If your battery has reservoir lids on top to check fluid levels then you have a Flooded lead acid battery. AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) are typically a sealed battery without lids.
I have one installed on my semi, its did over 300k miles so far over rough northern roads and works fantastic. Mines not exactly the same, its the older model but I'd hope the new ones are just as robust.
Im curious if i run this to charge my marine batteries in my boat if all the charging cables can stay hooked up. 3 batteries will be wired 36 volts for trolling motor. Can it charge the batteries individually even though they are wired for 36 volts?
@@DustinApple OH and I will charge them individually with my four bank charger just like yours since you taught me I could! You solved a big problem for me! Thanks again bro!
Let me know how that works out for you. Compare the space its gonna take up & the weight of all 4 compared to a single 4 bank charger before you buy. There is no comparison. Price is worst wat to invest in boating accessories.
does the charger you have utilize their quick disconnect "X" clips on the wire leads? if so how easy are they to disconnect and is this how you would add an extension?
I don't have X clips but most extensions on other brands use a plastic block to connect leads. Although I've not installed "Noco" brand extensions. I'm sure it will be pretty obvious once you get some.
@@DustinApple I ordered the 10' Extensions after watching this video. After I received them, I couldn't figure out how they connected. Noco advised me that these extensions are NOT for their on board chargers and that they do not make such a thing. Rather, you have to splice a 14WG extension between the fuses and the connectors. So, I have to return these extensions to Noco.
I'm curious, I've got 4 batteries and 2 of the batteries that are paralleled, can I charge them both with one of the leads? Trying to decide if I should get a 3 or 4 pole charger/maintainer.
