I love Oasis but you’ve only got to listen to the lyrics of Weeping willow by the verve to see how Ashcroft’s lyrics are just miles away from anything Oasis have ever wrote.
In my opinion Noel wrote some great Tunes such as: slide away, wonderwall, champagne supernova, some might say, acquiesce, live forever, talk tonight and the masterplan. But i have to admit that richard ashcroft is the more talented musician.
Except I can't name even 5 great songs Ashcroft wrote. Lucky Man, Bittersweet Symphony, Drugs don't work..... I was never an epic fan as I am with Oasis, and literally would have no clue who Richard Ashcroft was if not for Liam Gallagher.
The point he's making is actually completely correct if you ignore the Ashcroft debate. It's a trend for people to be marketed as a "singer-songwriter" even if their actual writing contribution is minimal. Even by the numbers manufactured popstars like Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus are described as "songwriters" on their bios, on wikipedia, and so on, simply because they'll have played some minimal role in the writing process. It devalues the art of songwriting and he's right to complain about it.
I like Noel, but let’s not pretend he isn’t an arrogant, two face bloke who more often than not speaks about himself like an original artist who has created music than has not been inspired by anyone else’s. He’s said some outrageous stuff in the past, but why is he having a pop at RA is beyond me.
The irony of a man who self confessed he stole many lyrics and sounds from others, T. rex , the Beatles, the Jam, the Kinks, I am sorry I used to love Noel but he is just a bitter little man who forgot where he came from and what made him he is today, Richard Ashcroft is the greatest Rock star/Artist we have ever produced and I think he is head and shoulders above anyone else, lyric wise and certainly singing wise
Don’t care if songs are co written. Richard Ashcroft gets my vote every time - he has that extra something that I feel the Gallaghers try to make up by acting as bad boys - hey it’s rock n roll.
I'm a fan of NG but let's be honest Richard Ashcroft has more singing and songwriting talent in his little finger than Noel can even comprehend. I bet Paul Weller and Johnny Marr do not agree with him.
Come on aren't they all a bit shite..noel fluked all his best songs like .don't look back on anger..live forever ripped off from guitar lines from Neil Young..ashcroft is ok .but it's not the fuckin Beatles is it .or Dylan...anybody can write like those two..same with that smack head lee mavers .. .
I wonder what will piss him off now about Richard supporting Liam in his gigs this year. The bitterness and fustration he has for his brother he's taking them out on people closet to Liam.
He seems to have an inferiority complex, always putting down other artists, he isn't as good as he thinks he is, people can do as they wish with music, nobody owns it, just be free and enjoy yourselves. Up yours Noel.
And also because Ashcroft refused to make an album with him, but helped Liam a bit with his and he's being a support act for him this year too. Ashcroft is supposed to have always been good mates with both, and I personally think he's drifted away from Noel and just seems to be Liams mate now.
Noels not really one to talk about people writing lyrics and melodies for others as his whole career is based off nicking riffs and phrases from others
Totally agree with what you have said. What a fantastic video, thanks Feirrur. I have been a lifelong fan and have seen him 3 times and met him at an album signing in 2016. He's an amazing songwriter and legend. Thanks again ..
Franck demda it is weeping willow all the way through,the original is by far the best tho,I'm a huge oasis fan and Noel did,shall we say borrow,a lot from other people but the songs wouldn't of had the impact they did without liams voice
He's pissed off because Ashcroft refused to make an album with him :) He helped Liam a bit with his recent album which is no secret and is his main support act this year.
I'm willing to bet that if Noel had gone looking for another liam, he would have found one in five minutes in Manchester. How hard could it be?And I'm talking about at the very beginning
@@droberts753 But It was Liam (and Bonehead, Guigsy and McCarrol) who had the band. Noel freely admits he was not looking to be in a band, he was happy with being a drum tech and he certainly wasn't looking for a "Liam' or a band. Liam brought confidence, swagger, charisma and his voice, he was the heart of Oasis and he made Noel a part of it. Oasis would never have been Oasis with anyone but Liam up front. He was irreplaceable- as was Noel.
at least ashcroft admits when he borrows bits and pieces.thats more then noel does.there would be a list a mile long of lyrics ,chord progressions,solos and watnat noel took from other artists
Richard is 100% honest and has always given credit to other artists for even the tiniest amount of sampling. He is a terrific singer, musician (guitar & Piano), songwriter and all round excellent performer. He is a deep, non-commercial modern day genuine rock and roll star. Noel has written some great songs that were mostly based on the pinched ideas from other artists and had a terrific front man, his brother to deliver them. Noel can't sing. He thinks he can because he made a few quid from his songwriting. But he can't sing. In terms of actual musical talent... Ashcroft pisses all over Noel.
Fester, I like both but have to say you're wrong but it's your opinion. Take away Bitter Sweet Symphony which main hook was nicked from Andrew Loog Oldham's symphony version of The Stones the Last Time and you've got some great songs but not many great hits. Noel's got a lot of both including the High flying Birds. Noel's singng is fine and getting stronger. Again I like them both, but regardless of voice and musical talent one tends to be more flat and boring than the other as a song writer and in the studio, Richard.
He doesn't like Ashcroft cause he won't join the band he wants to make of him (Noel Gallagher), Ian brown and Richard Ashcroft. Ashcroft is mates with Liam and doesn't want to piss Liam off so he won't join.
I don’t get this comment from Noel because I’ve followed Oasis from the start, and Noel/Liam both always had only good things to say about Ashcroft. Also, I am pretty sure that ‘cast no shadow’ was written about Ashcroft by Noel Gallagher!
Maybe it’s fake to be called Liam Gallagher when your shit’s being written for you but good music is good music, someone made it. And the name helps us identify your rockstar . Little bit false? yes. Better than a bad album? Yes
Rich from Gallagher. He's had co writers on most of his songs, they just werent credited. Ciggerettes and Alcohol - Gallagher/Bolan Don't Look Back in Anger - Gallagher/Lennon Shakermaker - Gallagher/Backer Morning Glory - Gallagher/Stipe Fade Away - Gallagher/Michael Step Out - Gallagher/Wonder Fuckin in the Bushes - Gallagher/Hendrix Hindu Times - Gallagher/Jones Lyla - Gallagher/Jagger Richards Waiting for the Rapture - Gallagher/Morrison The Importance of Being Idle - Gallagher/Mavers
Richard denied it on twitter. I can't understand why did Noel say that. At first I thought he knew something we didn't, but it seems it was just a lie. But why? In the past RA said that he wasn't going to do a collab with Liam or Noel because he didn't want to ruin his relationship with any of them (play sides)...
Yes I agree that Noel is wrong on Ashcroft plain and simple, but everybody makes mistakes, but Noel's basic point about too many co-writers is right. He just picked a bad example in the group is all. Not sure what exactly he has against Ashcroft, maybe he got it into his head that Ashcroft must be co-writing because a lot of his stuff is crappy compared to his earlier work.
I saw Richard Ashcroft live many years at the Brixton Academy and he was the bollocks I've not seen a better guy live since and I've been to quite a few gigs i lost my head when he broke out drugs don't work
Para mi forma de ver ...richard evolucionó en su vida privada y tambien generó cambios a su musica aun que creo que ha mantenido su sello por mas de una decada ....dentro de lo comercial richard canta a su publico ...y no para acaparar la atención popular.Saludos buen video y vaya que tienes otros con muy buen material
Noel was in the music as manager before Oasis without success so Liam was for a big part in the success of the band Noel wrote the songs but Liam gave them a real dimension . I hearded him to sing Oasis songs euh sorry I prefer Liam's interpretation .Richard is a free spirit . I love the way Richard see the world
I remember that the controversy broke out on twitter. A was really furious and offended, even treated Gallagher as a slanderer and is right, in my opinion. Your songs are so personal, they involve you
it amazes me that people who obviously are fans of noel dont know that everything, everything, he does is based on the beatles. hes always carried himself the way john lennon did in interviews. just with a little more flare. john talked shit all the time that he didnt mean
I was honestly gutted when I read this, such an unnecessary thing to say about his so called mate, and it’s lies? Makes no sense to me, Ashcroft has got the power
Didn't Noel dedicate cast no shadow to Ashcroft? I love both of their music but I can't help but side with Noel on this! the hole point of being a solo artist is to show the world how good of a song writer you are. Granted Noel's new stuff isn't his best but he did write the songs! And I'm sure he's talking about all of their new stuff!
Noel and Liam always liked and still like to cause shit, they feed on it, I’m a huge oasis fan but The Verve and Ashcroft in my mind were the better band, I spent a lot of time wishing for an oasis reunion but after getting into the verve and what Richard Ashcroft has done, let’s stop giving oasis hype and attention cause that’s what they want let’s get the fuckin verve back for a reunion, yeah everyone relates the verve with bitter sweet symphony but try to deny the words in that song, it’s one that can relate to just about everyone. Rant over. Cheers everyone!
Obviously I am not present when he wrote any of what noel might be talking about. But just because it says written by Richard Ashcroft doesn't mean it is or completely is. It's true (I don't know about this particular case) that people are paid off the books outright in cash for a song and then an artist can say they wrote it.
Better singer than Iain Brown, better songwriter than Noel, i'm a huge Gallagher fan before i get slated. Ashcroft in my humble opinion is the pinnacle of 90's British! Even Liam Gallagher thinks Ashcroft is the man and he hates nearly every fucker. I highly doubt that Richard is not writing his own songs, especially after his twitter reply. And this is taken from the wikipedia: Ashcroft was at the forefront of the band's popularity, receiving an Ivor Novello Award for his songwriting[11] and being referred to by the press as "the unmistakable face of the Number One rock band in England".[12] so, whats up Noel?
Thanks feirrur for this upload 👍🏼 I completely agree with Dave music comment below and. Really disappointed by NG empty accusation . Look out for NG's next album aptly named The green eyed monster 😜 Music is power 😎✌🏼️
As far as I'm concerned, I don't even need to see any evidence that it is Richards music, 'couse it sounds and feels like his music...you can not fake that...
I love Oasis and Noel as a solo artist and yeah he may be arrogant but he does make a hell of a good point about most artist needing a team behind them to make a hit song/record
nice vid Feirrur. What Noel said was implying that Richard lied about his songwriting, that he had a secret team behind him. The fact that where richard used obscure samples he always said so in his credits by mentioning the official source artist, is proof that he is honest in his songwriting credits. The truth is that with Noel his statement is the other way round. It is Noel who collaborates and he says he writes alone. Richard must be confused by his attitude, considering Noel was one of his top supporters in the mid 90s. But it is easy for a past supporter to become a hater if his 'friend' is still going strong compared to him.
dave music well said Dave you've summed this pure jealous ego maniac up perfectly , I think that because NG publicly burnt his bridges with oasis thinking his solo career would be as successful as RAwhich it isn't and he seems to have hit out at RA with no other reason I can see apart from pure jealousy . They was all mates and he does that , he really has lost a lot of respect from me .
Ironically many people still question Richard's genius mainly because his name is not as easily recognizable as "anyone" gallagher, ex - oasis etc. Noel and Liam were seen as voices of their generation from 94, and many still believe they must have been no 1 in talent from the britpop scene, whatever scene that was supposed to mean. I think it was a media - created paper thin excuse of a title to something real that was going on but was hard to identify. It was part of Popular consciousness and British, so why not call it Britpop right? Having said that, it was hard for Richard to have the same level of fame since he was identified as part of the britpop scene in its last stages by the media, and ironically people see Richard as a follower of the gallaghers, as in he came after them, which couldn't be further than the truth. However if anyone had to match say ten hits by Richard/Verve and ten by Noel/Oasis, do we really have any indication that Noel deserves to be called legend or the funny "godlike" title more than Richard. Thank God that the media have been very discreet in creating such disgusting self important titles for Richard, he's better than that in my eyes. However to close my point, the media appointed Noel as the king so he thinks anything he says will be believed to be true. Whatever the world claims Noel to be, what he did now is not the stuff of a legend, Far from it! If anything he has turned his back on a true mate, dissed a family member, dissed other people who as far as I know never said a thing against him, all in one self pompous idiotic statement. Why? Cos the godlike legend is OFFENDED by the phony songwriters. So in turn he has the right to offend true songwriters as phonies, that makes RKID happy. Sad World we live in
dave music very true but any true followers of that era will know oasis was a supported act for the verve and NG sang RA's praises even writing a song about him so much for loyalty amongst real friends he has embarrassed himself publicly and in my eyes his only way back to get any respect from me and many others is to publicly apologise to RA for his idiotic claims and take a long look at what he's has become , that God like genius label isn't worth nothing more than for RA than to wipe his arse with 😎✌🏼️
so true, richard gave oasis a leg up in the beginning of their career by letting them support verve, and as far as I know only Richard got a NG song dedicated to him. Therefore noel's statement towards richard is more negative than in the case of the other singers he mentioned. The media chose oasis as THE BAND of the 90s, creating fake PR wars with Blur and consequently ignoring great bands like verve until 97 when their talent was noticed around the world. When someone, however talented, is put on a pedestal by the media, they are likely to become narcissistic egotistical slanderous people as they fight to stay on their fragile throne.
dave music brilliantly put he'll be buying a vineyard next making wine for his new mates weller and marr obviously holds them in Saint like status because of what they did 30 + years ago .
Noel don't even try to talk about Richard Ashcroft. he is the band that can take number 1 and can beat you anyday in writing songs, he doesn't rip of songs like you. the verve is the band that oasis could never beat. Richard is a legend, a real rock star.
He's such a great diplomat, I think we should send him to Putin to negotiate the peace with Ukraine. All out nuclear war ten minutes into the conversation? Nah. I give it 15.
Noel is so funny I remember he bowed down to Richard Ashcroft like Richard was a god and rightly so because RA as a solo singer/SONGWRITER there is no better and noel should get on his knees bow down and ask for forgivness from the GOD of music 🎵🎶 RA 😇
Taylor Swift says she writes her songs, but she actually has a shit ton of help. Even if Richard Ashcroft says he writes his songs, they sure aren’t very good. Extremely average.
