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Noisy Brakes? We Haven't Heard of THIS Solution Before. 

Misha Charoudin
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On our first laps with the M2 post-winter rebuild, there was only one "issue": extremeley loud brakes. Luckily Endless helped us out with a piece of advice.
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@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
Today's news shocked the car community. It devastated the Nürburgring community. But what it did to Sabine's family and friends - none of us can even imagine. Due to the latter, we have decided to limit our expressions publicly towards this topic for the time being. The reason I'm mentioning it here now against my will, is to avoid some of you who follow me on this channel only, to think that we are ignoring it completely.
@Richard_Turner
@Richard_Turner 3 года назад
Couldn't agree more. My heart goes out to the family and having lost my dad in the same way 10 years to the day can fully understand limiting what is said.
@stobsie
@stobsie 3 года назад
I lost my wife aged 39 in late 2017 after 6yr battle against bowel cancer, my thoughts and prayers are with Sabines family. 🙏🏻
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
@@Richard_Turner my condolences.
@thomasbryce1716
@thomasbryce1716 3 года назад
Sad news indeed. 🙁 first time I saw Sabine Schmidt was on Top Gear Tv show... R.I.P Sabine 😔😪😔
@sooofancier
@sooofancier 3 года назад
God bless anyone that lost his/her family member or friend.
@michaelbruhn7623
@michaelbruhn7623 3 года назад
R.I.P. The Queen of the Nürburgring Sabine Schmitz 😢😢😢
@stobsie
@stobsie 3 года назад
Very sad day for the motoring world & the Nordschleife has lost its queen, R.I.P Sabine.
@thomasbryce1716
@thomasbryce1716 3 года назад
I saw her for the first time on Top Gear Tv program. R.I.P Sabine Schmidt 😔😪😔
@betaich
@betaich 3 года назад
RIP Sabine the Queen of the Ring. Ruhe in Frieden Königin der Nordschleife.
@William-Bill-Munny
@William-Bill-Munny 3 года назад
The world and the Ring feels more empty now....... RIP Sabine.
@sicariosoldado-
@sicariosoldado- 3 года назад
This Lap is for Sabine🕊️😞
@sanmiguel4019
@sanmiguel4019 3 года назад
Absolutely shocked and gutted about the news this morning, only 51 as well, R.I.P. Sabine.
@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618
@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618 3 года назад
RIP Queen of the Nürburgring.
@DJMarsB
@DJMarsB 3 года назад
Looks like the Eifel was crying today, rip Queen Sabine...
@konstantin88181
@konstantin88181 3 года назад
Narrow angle on gopro actually looks more natural, better visibility to the front.
@davidofford7002
@davidofford7002 3 года назад
Hey, I agree. Very enjoyable lap with a great view.
@snoopydogg1
@snoopydogg1 3 года назад
Agreed 👍
@audiosputo2457
@audiosputo2457 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6SW5QrW9BC4.html
@seb1989
@seb1989 3 года назад
Agreed!
@snoopydogg1
@snoopydogg1 3 года назад
@@audiosputo2457??
@wallstreetoneil
@wallstreetoneil 3 года назад
I was fortunate to meet her at a Porsche event - what a lady - so funny and so german. What a devastating loss to the motorsport world. She was amazing.
3 года назад
So sad to hear about Sabine today, the ring and the car community lost an awesome ambassador. My deepest condolances to her family and friends.
@nevtinnion9431
@nevtinnion9431 3 года назад
Rest in peace Sabine,Queen of the ring😥
@hamzasherazi9334
@hamzasherazi9334 3 года назад
Vibing with the camera angle. Didn't mind that at all. A sad day today for a lot of us, RIP Sabine. My deepest condolences to her family and friends.
@gmbs81
@gmbs81 3 года назад
Rip Sabine Schmitz😞
@MWHM2
@MWHM2 3 года назад
I did the same thing on my MTB when I switched to 4 piston Magura brakes with 4 individual pads. It really helps, especially the rotor sanding
@MrE30
@MrE30 3 года назад
Afternoon Misha the endless brake pad method worked good job, it’s been a unfortunate sad day to here of the passing of Sabine Schmitz. May she rest in peace and condolences to her family she was a true legend of the Nurburgring 🙏
@LeoZanardi
@LeoZanardi 3 года назад
Really nice vid man!!! Interesting fact about the Endless
@jefferyfurness4939
@jefferyfurness4939 3 года назад
Hi Misha on separate note glad to see so many comments after you posted Sabine's photo also cool lap showing how to be safe
@oomstu
@oomstu 3 года назад
Endless fun was had by all. Glad you got it sorted, noisy brakes reaally grind my goat.
@cossi2209
@cossi2209 3 года назад
Nice drive in this conditions, congratulation.👍
@martijnjanmaat2690
@martijnjanmaat2690 3 года назад
The news hit me like a bomb, condoleances to her family, but it must have hit so hard in the "real" Nurburgring community. You are handeling this subject very restrained. Good on you, sir Hope to be back with you guys real soon at the 'Ring
@shanescarlife
@shanescarlife 3 года назад
Your imitation of the brake squeal at the start of the video scared my dog! Lol
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes 3 года назад
That's an old MTB trick for squeaky brakes! Great work guys. 👍😎
@phillipchandler8862
@phillipchandler8862 3 года назад
R.I.P Sabine. A true legend.💖
@snoopydogg1
@snoopydogg1 3 года назад
Great video 📹👍👏 thanks as always 👍🙏
@6pistons
@6pistons 3 года назад
RACE IN PEACE Sabine Schmitz Nordschleife has lost it's Queen. 😥
@gabes693
@gabes693 3 года назад
I learned a trick in back high school , to lightly sand the new pad surfaces, pad sharp edges and slightly bevel the edges , if possible swirl the discs old or new prior to installing and do a bed in process after that , after doing this your brake feels dramatically better just by a few ol skool tricks
@dommycool100
@dommycool100 3 года назад
Can't wait to be able to travel again. Was meant to be here last year keen to come and have some laps in the taxi!
@tobe6214
@tobe6214 3 года назад
Today is a bad day, a hell of a bad day! We will miss you, Sabine !
@TexRobNC
@TexRobNC 3 года назад
Tire prices and sizes are something I have followed closely after owning a 335 with runflats (almost $3000 US for a set back in the day, and they didn't last either). My WRX can get a set of P4S for around $750 installed. Was looking at the Model Y for my wife recently, and was so pleased to see the 19" tires for it are super reasonable, less than $900 US for a set installed. When you're young, it's so easy to just ignore the tire maintenance costs when buying something, but I quickly learned that lesson.
@levente4424
@levente4424 3 года назад
Hey, instead of water dillute a bit of dishsoap(dishsoap is a degreaser, don't use WD40) with warmish water and try with that, that way not only the dirt will be cleared but the grease what comes with the dirt as well. Notice how braking performance will improve on an used car that had not this done for at least a year, mindblowing. :D
@richieduck67
@richieduck67 3 года назад
RIP Sabine I'm sure she will still be watching over the Nurburgring
@TheNinjaRider
@TheNinjaRider 3 года назад
Was somthing nice about watching this chill lap of the ring in shitty weather - on this really shitty day.. R.I.P Sabine😥
@andrewdavis2325
@andrewdavis2325 3 года назад
Never seen that method before, but it obviously works. I always used to chamfer the edges a bit. Sad news about Sabine Schmidt, My thoughts go to here family and loved ones.
@chekolevski9562
@chekolevski9562 3 года назад
I’ve done the same for years
@thomasbryce1716
@thomasbryce1716 3 года назад
GOOD Morning Misha.. Squeeling brake pads fixed hey? GREAT !!... An easy simple fix that Works & dosnt cost anything is the BEST ! 👍👍🙂👍👍 LOVE Ya Work bro💕 Godbless ava Gday🙂
@jgvbadv
@jgvbadv 3 года назад
I use WD40. My brakes aren't noisy anymore.. maybe cause i crashed the car but it was in complete silence :)
@NunoxFerreira
@NunoxFerreira 3 года назад
I use WD40 too,BUT i drive very slow..brake a couple of times, then clean disc and brake calipers with brake cleanner....it works!!👍
@twoeyedbob
@twoeyedbob 3 года назад
😂 lol
@Paul_VanGo
@Paul_VanGo 3 года назад
WD40? Are you mad? That runs off in no-time! I use high temp copper grease. Just a thick layer, directly on the disk. No need to disassemble anything either. Plus, strangely enough, the pads last a lot longer. I did 250kkm and I'm still on my first pads. Extra bonus, I never been rear-ended either! Downside: I rear-end a lot of others. But hey; no squealing brakes. I hate that.
@jgvbadv
@jgvbadv 3 года назад
@@Paul_VanGo It was a joke.. I use pig fat..
@Paul_VanGo
@Paul_VanGo 3 года назад
@@jgvbadv In that case, I agree. 😁
@bitmaster6542
@bitmaster6542 3 года назад
Nürburgring should name something after her, she fully deserves it.
@paulkrapp
@paulkrapp 3 года назад
Thanks Misha.........R.I.P. Sabine 💔
@mattiasandersson3444
@mattiasandersson3444 3 года назад
R.I.P Sabine -The Queen of the green hell
@giorgiokuhn1164
@giorgiokuhn1164 3 года назад
Hallo Misha nice lap, bye sabine !!!
@rustler08
@rustler08 3 года назад
Nice, auto-wet-sanding pads. Both should be flat, both are friction-based, so it makes sense that you can use another pad to sand it. Also, Robert when it comes to speed bumps: take it slow, there's no need to unnecessarily jar the entire suspension when we do thousands of laps. MIsha: FULL SPEED, slight brake, POWA!
@hobgoblinoftruth5815
@hobgoblinoftruth5815 3 года назад
RIP to the ultimate Queen of any track she drove on anywhere 😔
@manroshansingh
@manroshansingh 3 года назад
Hi Misha, you should make a video of the symbols on the tarmac, really cool seeing them
@nurburgringdreaming2221
@nurburgringdreaming2221 3 года назад
I had to use Degreaser on my CCB rotors when I finally figured out wash and wax was leaving a film on my rotors when I would wash my wheels so I don’t use any type of soap now on my wheels. Just pressured water and wipe clean
@DMRking97
@DMRking97 3 года назад
I do the same with mountain bike break pads, it basically clears off the first layer of pad, making it break in quicker
@marioribeiro886
@marioribeiro886 3 года назад
i don't know about that, but every time i change the brake pads, i always pass a bit with sandpaper and also the disk, even if they are new
@S1RS
@S1RS 3 года назад
When I bought Pagid RS pads from PBS they gave me some Emery cloth to remove the pad deposit from the old compound pads. You could literally feel the difference on the discs.
@darjanator
@darjanator 3 года назад
Oh man, those photographers are beast mode! 1, 2 degrees, snow, rain, wind and they're still out there on their posts, taking photos.
@hectorherbert6585
@hectorherbert6585 3 года назад
That"s when they are out .....They want crashes and mishaps...!!!
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
@@hectorherbert6585 not really.
@f87max30
@f87max30 3 года назад
It" s a trick mountainbikers also use after installing new pads on the disc brakes. Just a big squirt of water on the pads, then brake hard. After 5 or 6 times, they are good to go.
@m2kev789
@m2kev789 3 года назад
Very Sad to Hear of Sabine’s passing - RIP😢
@Matthew-nl9kd
@Matthew-nl9kd 3 года назад
What Endless pads are those exactly? Using MX72 on my M4 for track days, seems to do ok although I've only done 10 min sessions on street tyres.
@STEVEBHPDEVON
@STEVEBHPDEVON 3 года назад
misha would like a video of your thoughts on the m2 and what its like to drive👍😀
@AlanDampog
@AlanDampog 3 года назад
RIP the Queen of the nurburgring! :(
@biking261
@biking261 3 года назад
I have seen and indeed done the brake disc cleaning and degreasing the pads followed by rubbing them together before just not on a car
@bisondacierr
@bisondacierr 3 года назад
I had to interrupt watching the video. Does Misha explain somewhere why they squeeked so loud? New brake pad material not working great with old brake disc deposit material? Thanks!
@MrSkyl1ne
@MrSkyl1ne 3 года назад
r.i.p. Sabine, so sad to see you go at such a young age.
@stevie-1154
@stevie-1154 3 года назад
what product did you use to rub the brakepads to each other?
@moparedtn
@moparedtn 3 года назад
Thoughts and prayers go out to the family of Sabine Schmitz. I've lost several close family members to cancer and I've survived it six times (so far) myself; it is evil and vile. *FLUCK CANCER* - Ed on the Ridge
@rrodrigo42
@rrodrigo42 3 года назад
What grit of sandpaper did you use???
@DonnieX6
@DonnieX6 3 года назад
RIP Sabine, my dear queen of the ring... 🖤
@josemorenoporras7506
@josemorenoporras7506 3 года назад
Sorry for Sabine,I read it in the Spanish news,very sad. That thing on the pads and rotors is a very old trick.
@Jimmy87268
@Jimmy87268 3 года назад
I felt the linear view provided a better view on the road ahead actually
@torisaurio
@torisaurio 3 года назад
1:30 i work at a bike shop and we do that with pads and brake shoes so they don't make noise, although what we do is with sand paper
@stevenmoir9421
@stevenmoir9421 3 года назад
Misha , Robert. I think apex should do a tribute video to our beautiful Queen Sabine. 🏁😔 Still sinking in shes been taken so early. Hope all the team are well and the brakes are definitely improved
@Pyotr_Velikiy
@Pyotr_Velikiy 3 года назад
RIP Sabine.
@michaelhanson2848
@michaelhanson2848 3 года назад
What Grit of sandpaper was used?
@Nordmore68
@Nordmore68 3 года назад
My condolances... But for the brake pads, why don't you put some heat resistant grease on the back side? Between the pad and the piston that is, and also other surfaces where back-plate of the pad is sliding against the caliper-parts.
@ljubomirilievski35
@ljubomirilievski35 3 года назад
This morning i change the pads in front because of squeaking... why i didint wait one more day. Rest in peace Sabine.
@DavidGocky
@DavidGocky 3 года назад
I tought that the squeling was coming from the front brakes but i was wrong i guess. interisting method to fix your brakes and we can finnaly take the car out with no annoying squeeling sounds.
@m3nine11
@m3nine11 3 года назад
@ 7:05 where you mentioned 'no drifting through Adenau Forest...I cannot drift anyways...' - did you mean that you can't drift because you are not allowed to drift during TF at the Ring, or did you mean that you cannot drift full stop? (If the latter, appreciate the honest by the way).
@carstenschroder7054
@carstenschroder7054 3 года назад
2:19: start engine , select 1st Gear, Just hold the Sandpapier to the rotating disc.
@MT-eb2dx
@MT-eb2dx 3 года назад
Bad idea. Very bad idea.
@TwistedSymmetryUK
@TwistedSymmetryUK 3 года назад
1 - doesn’t remove deposits very well 2 - I like my fingers 3 - Added time of clearing abs codes
@carstenschroder7054
@carstenschroder7054 3 года назад
@@TwistedSymmetryUK OK. My sugesstion wasn't meant too serious....But If you like your Fingers soo much, then don't Work on cars.😄 And the uneven surface of your disc will BE Rubbed even by the Bakepads. (Hopefully) Then you can Check the ABS Sensors or Check the Sensors.😉
@giorgitsiklauri4543
@giorgitsiklauri4543 Месяц назад
Whats that spray chemical used in video?
@michaeln.7083
@michaeln.7083 3 года назад
Good wet line... I would be all over the place.. sorry to hear about Sabine she was such a great ring master, cancer sucks!!!
@CarlMCL
@CarlMCL 3 года назад
Did you get your special deal on photo's Misha? You mentioned in an earlier vlog because of how often you buy the photos.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
I did!
@tomhilbig3485
@tomhilbig3485 3 года назад
Once my old breakpad had Reality deep Lines in it i used a cnc machine to make it even and it worked another 10k km
@arminask
@arminask 3 года назад
Interesting to see wet line for the full tourist lap
@shravanav993
@shravanav993 3 года назад
Goodbye Sabine, you'll be missed
@martinchapman2168
@martinchapman2168 3 года назад
Good video
@MacheteK
@MacheteK 3 года назад
Good comment
@oscarswaggie
@oscarswaggie 3 года назад
@@MacheteK Good comment on comment
@thomasbryce1716
@thomasbryce1716 3 года назад
good onya🙂
@DavidGocky
@DavidGocky 3 года назад
14:30 I dont know why i love seeing someone slam on the brakes so much.
@simunvucemilovic-juric8083
@simunvucemilovic-juric8083 3 года назад
i kinda like this camera angle more than before
@iand299
@iand299 3 года назад
Hi Misha, I love the channel and content. I was wondering if I were to upload my one and only lap on Nurburgring would you watch it and give me some pointers? I had never been on track and I drive a bmw F31 318d (estate). I doubt I will get a chance to come over this year but next year I really want to come over and have another go! (In a rented track prep car as my clutch nearly died in my car). Thanks in advance
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
I'm afraid I won't have time for that, but you could get an instruction lap.
@TheJPenguin
@TheJPenguin 3 года назад
What kind of sandpaper was used for the rotors? Also how'd you get at the inside/back face with the backing plates in place, I thought it was mostly covered. I often end up with horrible squealing from my PFC and Pagid pads on my M2 after track days, I do also swap back and forth with the OEM pads though cause of the noise (squealing but also clunking from lack of anti-rattle shims etc) and cold wear.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
Next to the caliper there is some space to get behind
@zigaveren3902
@zigaveren3902 3 года назад
I've been wanting to know if you let the cars warm up before going on the track or not? Because I know Apex is very close to the track so the engine doesn't have time to warm up properly.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
We let them run before the customer takes them.
@marioapelmann5706
@marioapelmann5706 3 года назад
Que descanse en paz Sabine!
@speedibusrex
@speedibusrex 3 года назад
Sabine is gone :(
@alexkerr306
@alexkerr306 3 года назад
Sad news indeed. Regards from Scotland.
@plamendimitrov5762
@plamendimitrov5762 3 года назад
2 years ago, I replaced the front disks and pads - 1 of them quickly got warped and they squeaked soemtimes. Some time later I had the 2 disks polished and we replaced the "new" pads since they were eating the disk away. Got new, know for being softer, pads - now them brakes squeak even worse..... I can say its worse than the BMW at the start....
@baronbunni4689
@baronbunni4689 3 года назад
15:09 more like the race track is quite today, misha
@koomaj
@koomaj 3 года назад
RIP Sabine
@stewartmclean625
@stewartmclean625 3 года назад
Rest in peace Sabine, the queen of the ring 💚
@sockmonkey201
@sockmonkey201 3 года назад
Honestly, I’ve been crying on the inside all day!😞 RIP Sabine.
@sjorsangevare
@sjorsangevare 3 года назад
What is the reason the wet line is on the outside of the corners? I'd say that that would give you even less room for error, but I'm probably wrong :P
@wallymcguire2033
@wallymcguire2033 3 года назад
The short answer is there is a lot of rubber put down on the track on the normal dry racing line and it becomes very smooth. When it gets rained on, that surface becomes very slippery so there is more traction to be found by moving over onto the cleaner coarser pavement that isn’t used in the dry. The extra traction more than makes up for loss of room for making mistakes, although it’s harder to watch on camera it feels better to the driver.
@sjorsangevare
@sjorsangevare 3 года назад
@@wallymcguire2033 Thanks for the very clear answer!
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 3 года назад
Who has not come into contact with the Nordschleife through Sabine Schmitz? My condolences to family, friends and the Nürburgring community.
@JoranDorifuto
@JoranDorifuto 3 года назад
I think rubbing the brake pads together is to remove the old brake pad deposits that stuck to the new pads.
@Torchedini
@Torchedini 3 года назад
Or remove unevenness from the pads. You could do it with sandpaper too. but both pads on each other also works fine. And saves you some sandpaper. Brakes are just 'sandpaper' trying to grip a moving disc. If you ever need griptape just wrap sandpaper with doublesided tape on inner ends and you destroy your skin before the grip goes.
@liiiinder
@liiiinder 3 года назад
Rather prefer that angle instead of the wide angle for the gopro. Feels more like you're in the car :)
@bastiescalante1565
@bastiescalante1565 3 года назад
Hey misha, why did Apex go for a M2 rather than the M2 competition?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
Because back then M2C wasn't out yet, we have this car since 2017!
@runevw2446
@runevw2446 3 года назад
You can do the same with bike brakes. To bed them in faster.
@OscarCastillo1
@OscarCastillo1 3 года назад
BMW M Performance BBK are annoyingly noisy with the constant ticking sound at all speeds. No squeal yet though.
@dalulsgodyeet1048
@dalulsgodyeet1048 3 года назад
Nice
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