Norm: A Profile in Courage - The Fallout Show 

I mean... Not many settlements within a vault

​@@taylorstratford9717 you made me think about Preston garvey.

@@GSUS-fc6ss Good! Because another settlement needs your help! I'll mark it on your map!

that's because he did it in the vault, so the wasteland's golden rule did not apply

@@taylorstratford9717 I'm convinced he is running a terrorist cell because of how he knows about these attacks. You seen a cell phone in Fallout? And I didn't install a terminal at that one Preston, I designed and built it you know.

when hey levels a bit more hey should invest in strength hey got to much intellect and sneak

Charisma set to 0

@@t84t748748t6 You don't need strength if you aren't carrying a lot or like to fight up close. Endurance is a better stat because everyone needs more health and stamina.

Well no id say 1 or 2 for charisma he managed to get around Betty

"Lacks Enthusiasm"

Well maybe he can pull out a stealth attack or two

Norm is so perceptive, he is aware of his own crappy stats 🤣

I watched a 5’ guy tap out a 6’2” guy in the marines. Speed ain’t no joke.

@@Kilroy098 sadly norm doesnt have MILITARY TRAINING

Been hoping he'd get a break for a long while, especially after he kinda dropped after enders game

He’s amazing and I liked everything I saw him in after Disney, glad he’s seeing more opportunities

I agree. Initially, I thought his story was going to be the less interesting.

@@Redrgon25his is a detective’s tale, of using guile, wit, and a complete understanding of his foes to win

Absolutely. I hope we see more from him.

@@SwearMY same! i really hope thaddeus shows up again too,in full ghoul form,either in a game or season 2 lol,it would be hilarious

Agreed. He was the most normal, common sense, smart, and perceptive character in the show. All the main cast annoyed me at least a few times (maximus many times), but Norm was a character i didn't care about in eps 1 and 2 and ended up being the best overall character for the show IMO.

To me it was one of the best parts of the show I was realed in

Yeah, it was my favoruite part. I loved the mystery and the way he grew during the show

Same, if each character is considered to be on their own quest then Norms was by far the most intriguing and rewarding.

Wow. Why do people think they are expert critic of the world? Just say thanks for your hard work Ox

​@@Torriotorreswho are you responding to? Everyone is just saying they like the character. Are they not allowed to express that opinion?

I made that realization in this video too. I gasped and looked over at my mom while pausing the video and said the theory. She totally agreed it's a big possibility and the way hank was insisting the story wasn't quite as it seemed like not totally denying it but implying there was more to the story that would change the perspective

shes got a few good double meanings, i noticed her talking to Norm in this video too about how "Ive seen what happens when smart men get angry", and realised she could have easily been talking about the bombs being dropped at the end of the war

But the question remains ond how she got her Pípboy. I think they might have captured her and used some sort of hostage situation in order to sneak in the bomb

@@catslino5037 have you watched the whole series yet?

I knew it was a threat immediately 😂😂 what that says about me is a pretty peak at the kind of things ive endure over time as a norm-type. Aint that a kick in the head?

Only person in Fallout history to do that

The problem though is that when you select for brainpower, they start to question the narrative. Why are things the way they are? What’s going on here? And if their code of ethics is different from the one you intended to instill in them, then there’s a problem, as seen by the fact that Norm was able to deduce so much about what was going on from simple context clues

IT IS THE LISAN AL GAIB! AS WRITTEN!!

​@@thekillerprawn IS NORM THE LISAN AL GAIB?!?!?

And after when they get that what then

@@UndeadSlayer5 Norm become management and manage all over the vault.

Or the entirety of fallout

What he lacks in charisma, strength, agility and luck, he more than makes up for in Perception and Intelligence.

@@connerthewubbzler1062strength was his dump stat, intelligence and perception were his mains. Sometimes you need the smart guy able to make the connections others won’t or can’t

And intelligence

he wouldn't seen the cracks in the walls back in rep conn HQ

Well he is pretty smart so he probably gained quite a lot of XP points each time

Get out. Please leave the vault.

Considering he's the most oddball character in the show (or at least of the 31-33 vaults), I think his name is probably meant to be a cheeky little joke.

*[extremely Enclave power armor voice] Exit the Vault immediately.*

for me he was on of the few likable characters so far in this episodes.

😐

Hell yeah

Master blaster vibes

Norm on chets shoulders and uses ears as joysticks

I really liked their dynamic. They are like the polar opposite. Norm is small, smart & skeptical. Chet is tall, dumb & gullible.

Chet may be dumb, but he said one of the hardest lines on the show after Norm told him he's a coward: "We all are, Norm. That's why we live on a vault."

I was surprised to see him and I was shocked at his acting and the way he played this role. I didn’t know what to expect but he exceeded my expectations. Definitely one of my favorite characters and I’m looking forward to his story continuing.

A big part of it is how well you do during interviews. Moises seems to get very nervous and flustered during interviews which is why you don’t see him getting much of the limelight despite his stellar performance. The main 3 actors are all very outgoing and easy to talk to people so it makes for good interviews which gets them into the public eye more.

@@RoflCannon6 Wonderful point! It’s surprising somewhat because of Disneys notorious PR training but I truly think it’s just his nature. Id trip over myself no matter what on camera so I relate to being an anxious creature. Happy to see him going strong despite child stardom

Tom Cruise doesn't struggle with that, he just forces them to use SFX so he's at least as tall as his female co-stars, lol.

Maximus is most players - rushing to power armor headlong. I know that's what I did. Fk if that thing doesn't make me feel powerful.

Agree. Lucy being super naiive and kind also made me think of all the players like me who always make the moral choice and doesn't want anyone to die etc. I loved that she was like a first character. They really knew what they were doing with the whole show.

and then there's the Ghoul who seems to be a god dang level 100 character with a high investment in Luck, Perception and Agility (given all his precise VATS-like killshots)

I think that's always like my second or third build when playing a new Fallout game, accept being really squishy to get the full lore (and stealing from everyone and everywhere, let's not forget that)

@@stankobarabata2406 Fr, all while making questionable moral decisions.

Makes it feel like the world itself is alive, not just the stories of the lead characters. It’s great!

​@@samwwrl98ifyExactly, well said.

Of course, contrasting the vault with the wasteland and seeing that things actually explain each other is satisfying.

Well that vault is a key plot point so they need someone to drive that part of the story , being norm

And they sinked up perfectly for the big reveal! I feel scared for Norm and i hope he manages to get himself out instead of someone coming for him the next season

And at the same time, there would be nobody to uncover vault 31s conspiracy. Its Lucy's willpower that trumps her naivety to get her through the wasteland, with help from others. Norm had faith in his sister and turned out it meant he could stay and operate in the vault. They're a pretty great duo.

I'm betting he is gonna get sent after a water chip or something so Betty can kick him out of the vault, that is if he escapes 31.

​@@spacecowboy1438I hope he has enough balls to leverage bud's buds, it's the only way he gets out I think

@@thedigitalrealm7155in that sense, Norm is the brains, the intellect, the raw intelligence, the superego, Lucy is the heart, the one trying to do right, impulsive to some extent, kind of an id, and Cooper would be the beaten down ego balancing the two with his practical knowledge of the outside world.

@@The-Doctor6969 my fan theory is he convinces bud to make him overseer for 32, then becomes a surprise antagonist as he gets confronted by Lucy's return and her revealing details. But that's kinda cheesy and doesn't leave much room for character development like exile would.

I feel like cooper is the 5th protagonist

@@SejikanI mean he is the same guy as the ghoul so I would count them as one

@@ArnikaandMe i mean literally yes, but in the context of how the show is presented they are basically different characters that are just connected

@@Sejikan honestly i wish someone would make a game based on this multi protagonist game with each character having different stats that are predetermined. It would not be an rpg basically but just an action game based on fallout. Sort of like tales of the borderlands that completely changed the gameplay

Great theory!

Yeah, that actually makes sense.

I thought norm poisoned them

I thought Norm poisoned them.

That's a good theory. I thought it was Norm, but Betty would make sense.

The thing is he is a budding strategist and leader. He has quite a bit of growing to do to get rid of his naive side, but he is also still just a boy at this point. He's going to grow into someone remarkable eventually.

I do too. I didn't, at the very beginning, but he quickly won me over.

Them Vault 31 genes ​@@Katharina-rp7iq

@@Katharina-rp7iq Both Lucy and Norm are the product Vault 33 aimed to create: a capable young people capable of making tough decision and soldiering on during hard time. The problem is Vault-Tec also want people like that to be mindless yes-men who lived to serve their agenda.

Norm experienced a mentally stimulating challenge for the first time in his life. It was too appealing to resist. And I think Moldaver was right about Lucy's curiosity, too.

@@djx7134 100%. The vault provided nothing to challenge him mentally his whole life and then this mystery appears? Of course he's gonna want to figure it out.

We don't quite know if she is a villain. Only that she's part of the other likely control vault. Everything else she's done has been vague and her motives are not clear yet.

@@billbaggins7355 not quite sure about that, but i think betty is the woman who introduces "henry" to cooper when he is spying on the meeting at vaulttec

Okay baba yaga fan

I look forward to where they take his character in season 2. I think he has the potential to become the main character. He's a man burdened with intellect.

That reminds me of the speech the Third Doctor said in Doctor Who when he was in his final story before regenerating.

As john Wayne puts it , Courage is being afraid but saddling up anyway.

​@@dazzwsmith I still wonder how he will get out of vault 31?

Courage isn't just a matter of not being afraid you know, it's being afraid and doing what you have to do anyway

Who thought Rico from Hannah Montana would land such a big role

@@MT-zw1tiRIGHT???

@@MT-zw1tihe’s landed several large roles over the years where have you been? His characters are consistent fan favourite main characters

@@randomyoutuber0524really? Haven’t seen him in anything else 😮

That's what I was thinking too, she seems to be the coldest character and by, "doing the right thing" it's ELIMINATING the competition. Her character will NOT have a redemptive arc, in other words you can "stick a fork in her"

@@wadevanduyn6316 lol I see what u did there.

@@wadevanduyn6316 Absolutely agree on your take on her character. She did appear to have gotten a bit unhinged after her husband died, she really did seem to have loved him. So she's a bit of a wildcard compared to the other 31ers from my perspective, Betty is just management. But Stephanie isn't just management, she is "angry", and so far we haven't seen her outright piss on the walls to take out her anger, also she was seemingly in disagreement with Betty on how to handle the prisoners. My guess is that Betty and brain-bot decided to keep them alive because they needed the genetic diversity as the vault had too few inhabitants left, but Stephanie chose anger over "the plan" and killed them, leading to her reassignment to vault 32 in hopes she doesn't cause more trouble. It also ties into why they never tried to get rid of Norm as they simply couldn't afford to lose any more people. And Betty wanting to keep Norm in 33, partly because she could keep an eye on him there but maybe also because she didn't trust Steph enough to have her and Norm together, imagine having two troublemakers unsupervised in the same vault! Maybe Steph and Norm will team up in the future, causing a downward spiral of violence and ultimate destruction, as is the fate for many vaults... (A super-mutant Chet and Norm duo entering the wasteland at the end of season 2 would honestly be f***ing epic)

I mean based on her saying she helped bury his mother she was in on what happened to shady sands. I think she just means her experiences before the war

@@CodeeXDI agree, thought I also think it’s plausible that Hank’s actions were still not completely ideal and were perhaps unexpected for Betty, but her loyalty to him and vault tec meant she helped cover his tracks and return to their usual mission.

I thought what she had in mind was what happened in vault 32, but maybe she meant Hank

I don't believe Hank is clever but maybe Betty does

@@tessa63627 Lucy says she good at science but not as good as her dad

It might be because every scene he is in is filled with tension.

I think it's because we so rarely get drama within the vaults as it happens

​@@thomaswillard6267100% agree. I love seeing a mystery unfolding within the Vault, which is a setting we very rarely ever get to see in real-time. The games always focus so much on the Wasteland its fun to see the social dynamics of Vault-Life.

Because unlike everyone else who resorts to fists or guns, he is using the tools between his ears to solve his problems

@@connormclernon26that’s right, Lucy has the chance of being saved by the ghoul or by maximus but Norm is truly alone in this vault and wouldn’t make sense for him to be guns blazing. Norms situation forces the writers to make something interesting every time Norm is on screen.

Yeah, Bud is obviously not all that bright. Though his plan did actually work. Vault 33 residents are the exact sort of docile sheep with barely adequate intelligence that he wanted.

And it was just like in game too! No long dialog leading to clues or eavesdropping sevens. Instead amazing visual story telling and hacking counsels. The whole show felt like the real game it it was amazing

Brings me back to the fantastic experience exploring The Glow in Fallout 1.

@@R3GARnator YES! It's that slow build that goes from shock to horror

Well did we really see his ending? I feel like he has a trick up his sleeve. Maybe like waking up all of bud’s buds?

@@AliAkbar-gq6ed I hope so, I think he going to get woken up in like season 3 or something, maybe near the end of season 2,

He could threaten to shut off their life support

Something tells me that norm gets into the robo brain, or the computers. Either that, or Lucy goes spelunking looking for them again to bring him out into the wasteland

I'm predicting Bud will stop him after he's informed by Betty that the water chip is broken. Fearing that his own idea for humanity's future will be doomed, he'll task Norm to find a new water chip.

And his stalth of course

Me too. I didn’t expect to like him, but now he's one of my favorites!

@@zxyatiywariii8 same

what, for hiding when people are attacking his community? i think that’s pretty normal. no use judging people for their fight-or-flight responses.

@@tonoornottono you can when they're not real 🤣

@@DapperGoth i think even in this context it’s just a very reasonable reaction. fiction still contains the real-world logic of fight-or-flight, these are still people. in fiction, people often have exaggerated skill sets. but they rarely have exaggerated flaws or weaknesses, those are usually just normal human traits. i don’t think this reaction is even something which exists on a moral scale, it’s just a biological imperative to survive. our evolutionary path has selected for communities which react in many different ways during a crisis in order to secure the survival of the species. if we all reacted the same way in every crisis, humanity would have gone extinct a very long time ago. and i think fiction usually appreciates this logic, the show certainly does. because norm thinks back on hiding and he feels ashamed, he questions why he did it. but he did it for survival, just like his sister did what _she_ did for survival. there isn’t shame in that, in a crisis situation. sustained decision-making is where moral judgment lies.

That's what I think too and he'll somehow deactivate bub the brain on a Roomba lol and maybe on freeze everybody

@@noahdean9685 Deactivating Bud would be too much a rouse. Outwitting Bud, convince his cousin Chet to start a revolt against Betty and revealing the truth to the remaining Vault dwellers is more likely. Can't wait to see his showdown against Betty.

@@mewletter vault 32 is basically a death sentence for those who do not meet the requirements of buds buds!

My guess is he’s going to hack bud He would probably need atleast expert level of hacking and a base skill in robotics to hack bud. He hacked and overseers computer and com link so that probably puts him at around expert to master level as that’s usually what their at in none desolate/half done vaults. Robotics thou is tricky. Didn’t see a mister handy type bot in there. This makes sense as the whole line of products suck at lying. they would have accidentally outed 31 long before even if programmed be it with actual information or just observation from being old. The thing is he did do practically every job in the vault so he probably has a point into repair and that could be enough for him to figure out the robotics. Especially because buds probably one of the weakest robobrains (robotics wise) we have ever come across so the level for rebooting should be minimal

@@mewletter he will never actually kill anyone he might actually be attack by betty and his squirrely nature willw cause her to trip and she will die from her own weapon

That’s actually a great idea

I like the mention of Norm having the same go-getter energy. He mentions he wouldn't be able to go to the wasteland bc he's scared or doesn't have the courage, but the story showcases that he actually does and that Both he and Lucy are quite similar as siblings in that regard.

@@reklom2334 I like to believe the reason why Norm didn't go into the Wasteland was because he lacks self-confidence. From I can tell Lucy was the favorite child outgoing, charismatic, and talented (from her opening). Leading their father to favor her more then Norm which made him compare everyone of his aspect to Lucy's which damaged his own confidence. It was only when the Raiders who killed his friends and families that he finally becomes motivated.

The nonchalant go-getter attitude 😂

It’s not just you. Nobody else who stayed in the vault actually was focused on. Lucy and/or Norm are heavily involved in all but two scenes that take place in vaults 33, 32, or 31. And those two scenes weren’t even that crucial to everything that happens

I'm hoping my guy Chet has a change of heart, and comes looking for Norm once he realizes he's missing.

@@noahperkins4716 Stephanie and Chet will be big in Season 2 I bet. Stephanie is from 31, so she knows as well. She's pretending to be dumb.

@@qrowing i can see stephanie being a psycho killer ... me thinks she has the black widow perk lol STAY SAFE CHET! ... also the whole time i was like "is that seth mcfarland?"

He was on some sort of spectrum alright xD

I was expecting: "But everyone is S.P.E.C.I.A.L."

That line was something I didn't know I needed to hear tbh

Lmao. P.I., Norm, the Vault's Private Investigator. It fits.

😂😂

Slightly below charisma, but definitely high int. and high per. He definitely has the small frame perk. Im thinking he also has skilled as well.

​@@luvondaroxonly needs an overcoat, a cigarette and a snubnose revolver

His sneak is above average also.

All the main characters have huge, glaring weaknesses. Lucy is hopelessly naive, despite general competence in all areas. Cooper is her mirror; he's overly cynical and tends to kill or abuse everything around even when it's detrimental to him (he got lucky Lucy gave him the drugs instead of leaving him to go feral like most would've). And Max is just kind of dumb.

@@djx7134 Yes and a key is that all their behaviors are consistent with their characters and their experiences. Cooper's change into a cynical psychopathic killer, is understandable given what he learnt about the start of the war, the behind the scenes scheming and betrayal (most painfully the betrayal his wife committed shattering his view of the world), along with what seems to be the loss of his daughter subsequently, after the bombs drop and hundreds of years of surviving the brutal wastelands. They never go the convenient route with him, they stay true to his callous lack of empathy and its only when Lucy shows mercy even after he sold her off as body parts, that he begins to slightly question what he has become, when the movie reminds him of who he used to be. its just excellent writing. But I feel like there are multiple writers on the show. One of them worked a lot on Cooper and Norm and that writer is very skilled. While the one working on Maximus a lot and the BOS story line is not as good of a writer and gets far too silly at times and is prone to overly convenient writing that even approaches Dues Ex Machina at times.

@@ScottMcMaster-er4xj I think Maximus is supposed to actually have insane LUCK. As in a nod to the attribute in Fallout games. They all have protagonist plot armor levels of luck, but his luck is just ridiculous. He defines "failing upward" like no character I've seen before. I'm pretty sure it's intentional. And Max has changed a fair bit. He's still stupid. He probably always will be. But his priorities have changed. In fact, his crazy luck is kind of bothering him these days, since it's pushing him in a direction he'd rather avoid (becoming more tied down to the Brotherhood). So, don't think ironic is the right word exactly, but interesting, at least.

@@ScottMcMaster-er4xj Also, I think we still have a lot to learn about Cooper and how he became the Ghoul. There's still a wide gap to bridge between Cooper Howard and the Ghoul. What we've seen so far doesn't quite account for everything.

@@djx7134 Fairly sure his daughter died. She was on the horse with him, then gone later. The death of his daughter definitely would mess him up, especially knowing the whole war was planned and conspired. It also explains why he's gunning for Vault Tec now and anyone he sees as responsible.

Courage is a courier of charging toward the unknown.

def only from the moms side considering that hank is a coward

I thought he was cowardly when he hid in the floor, but his courage manifests in quieter ways, which are nevertheless courageous.

im trying to remember, I'll have to rewatch, I only remember "Lucy" mentioning her brother, but not if he's older or younger. Its implied hes younger but not explicitly stated. He seems less mature than Lucy, so then maturity is part of Norm's character arc.

it's never implied he's her little brother, he's just her "little" brother 🤣

He was a kid in Hannah Montana if I remember correctly, he's got plenty of experience acting and he obviously has tremendous talent for it. His name is Moses Arias

Lucy acts like a stereotypical protective older sister towards him so I just assume she's older. Did his mom took off to shady sands with him or just with Lucy? I can't recall but if he was out of the vault with her, I think he would at least remember being outside if he's the older sibling.

@@GRA5S definitely lucy is older. throughout the show lucy constantly remembered her mother in a bright area while we never get any of those moments with norm, which implies he might not even have been old enough to remember her face since moldaver mentioned that when hank found out where rose was living and tried to get her back in the vault, he "took the kids and dropped a bomb"

See this is what I think. I hope there is a small reference to nick or dima

I dunno, there is a certain level of danger that comes with that job. He'd definitely need a partner.

​@@thecpmr6276Sole Survivor:" We will sort that out. Strong you follow Norm." Strong:" Strong protects little human."

​@@chengkuoklee5734also strong: [STRONG DISLIKED THAT]

@@chengkuoklee5734 A Super Mutant Thaddeus/Norm teamup would literally be the best timeline in my opinion

Lucy is Dorothy. Max is the Tin Man. Even him being stuck in the armor is a Fallout 2 reference and random encounter where you come across a BoS Brother who needs help out of his armor. Coop is the Scarecrow. CX404 is Toto Both Hank and Moldaver can interchangeably be The Wicked Witch and The Wizard of Oz

Now I need to go back and rewatch the Wizard of Oz. . . this is interesting, and I don't know that as well as I know Fallout, it's been ages since I saw it. . .

Love it My brain is already thinking of fanfic thanks to this comment

Even the projector is a projection of a field in Kansas

It works so well, I love it!!

thats a cool connection i never thought of that

Maximus starts the series getting angry at his friend for becoming a scribe, letting Titus die because he "doesn't deserve" to be a knight, and tried to kill that one guy when he planned to tell the Brotherhood what Maximus did. All in all, Max was ultimately really selfish for the first half of the season. It was through his journey with Lucy that he started acting selflessly, like giving the vault the power core back, and giving himself in to the Brotherhood in hopes he could get them to help her. He believed Brotherhood Knights should be brave, kind people who help those who need it, and he found the heart for that. As for the Ghoul, I don't have as thorough an analysis for him as the Ghoul, but all his stuff as Cooper in the flashbacks are about him trying to figure out more about Vault-Tec and their plans and whatnot. In other words, he wanted information, which could connect to Scarecrow wanting a brain. If you want something for him as the Ghoul, the stuff with that drug that keeps ghouls from going feral could be him trying to keep his brain/sanity.

Who is Toto? The head?

​@Skootfairy Four, obviously!

Yes, exactly. And note - it wasn't just nuking Shady Sands, which I assume Betty knew about. It was the cover up also. Lucy thinks that her mom died of starvation during the "Great Plague of '77". But there was no "Great Plague" ... it was a cover up to hide the fact that Rose left Vault 33. Hank (and Betty?) made up this plague to force everyone into quarantine, so they couldn't work the farms together, and people died of starvation. During this coverup, Hank lost a lot of weight, making Rose's faked death plausible. Lucy says "people" starved, so Hank let at least one other person starve to death for the coverup. Upon hearing this story, The Ghoul dismissively taunts Lucy, telling her that he bets Hank ate Rose. He had no idea that what Hank and Betty actually did was way worse.

@@IsaacKuo fantastic!

I think she realizes that Norm is the perfect type of person to be a manager with Vault-Tec lmao

Or, she kept him at her vault because "keep your enemies closer." This way she can keep a closer eye on him. If he was in the other vault, he'd go digging for more info with no supervision..

I think there might be some 'worthy opponent' feelings there. I think Betty enjoys the fact that she actually has to put a bit of effort into dealing with Norm and can't just manipulate him as easily as the rest of the vault. Any game's more fun when winning is a challenge and she likes that the 'Norm' sub-plot of her playthrough isn't stuck on 'easy' like everyone else's.

I feel like she doesn’t want to make Hank upset. Hank seems to have a lot of power, so Betty is trying her best to not get Norm into danger

@@stevedowdy1 I could definitely see that!

Me too, I disliked him right away but at the end I liked him most.

Don’t tell me he’s dead.

​@@redrasegardenI don't think so I think he's going to cryogenically Freeze himself or somehow destroy or deactivate the robobrain of bub and unfreeze everybody, I don't know we'll just have to wait and see what happens in season 2.

@@noahdean9685 just as long as he’s alive

@@noahdean9685 it's just, if he freezes himself we'd have to see a jump into the future to see him again, and I should hope we don't have to deal with that.

He was the the protagonist's bully in Ender's Game Movie also.

That or he could threaten to compromise the cryo pods and those still in it. And he would do it and be able to do it.

@@petemadrona2252 that too

I love how the closed captions even called him "Brain-on-a-Roomba" 😂

@@zxyatiywariii8 missed chance to call him budba or brainba

He'll probably just get in the pod, not wishing to bet his life on a bicentennial brain to buy his intimidation

Or just blackmails him, he can sabotage pods, systems, and play football with Bud, removing his brain from the drone. Or just makes a deal... you know a deal deal.... if something Bud is a manager who always want to manipulate things. I hope they don't go with the he gets frozen and someone else must save him arc.

Yes. . . I want to know HOW those radroaches are getting in, too.

Didn’t they get into 101

@@zxyatiywariii8 if they can get in Norm can probably get out

I kinda don't think he did it. . . although if he did, I LOVE that he did.

Norm with a nearly immortal ghoul/super mutant version of Thaddeus would be great but any scene between Norm and Snake Oil would be absolute peak

Reminds me of Mom from Futurama.

I think he is frozen now.

lol with THOSE turrets? nobody needs luck to dodge them

He used up all his luck for that one scene

Given everything else we have seen from Norm, no. It is not currently within his character to poison his fellow vault members.

I hope norm develops into a nick Valentinesque character next season, maybe get a 1-2 point boost in charisma/confidence lol

@ragingfilthycasual but they werent his fellow dwellers, they were the raiders that killed his fellow dwellers. He only poisoned the slices he cut off, not the cake itself. Or else the girl who took the cake would've eaten a slice by then and died... Thats what I think, anyway

I mean it's very clear that the new overseer was the one that did it. Norm is genuinely confused whereas the new overseer says people need something to get upset about, probably so they won't pay too much attention to who she's keeping in 32 and who she's sending to 33. It obvious she's sending people who won't go rogue, and who agree with her without needing her there to manipulate. But she knows she needs to keep an eye on Norm because he's figuring stuff out so she keeps him in 32

It was 100% the new overseer. It happened directly after she got "elected" and he genuinely seemed confused. And the overseer is just.. objectively an antagonist, so it'd make sense.