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Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer.
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@LexClips 2 месяца назад

Full podcast episode: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1X_KdkoGxSs.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: ru-vid.com Guest bio: Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer.

@ViCT0RiA6 2 месяца назад

youre sick for monetizing this type of content while innocent people and children are being starved and killed in Palestine. there is no debate and youre beyond wrong for platforming this as such.

@gh0st409 2 месяца назад

Enough of this idi0t in your show bro.

@VinylCP 2 месяца назад

Isn't allowing people to damn themselves on a public platform essentially a net positive? Idk why you'd be salty that Lex takes some $ home as a result of his making it available.

@Zoe_r146 2 месяца назад

Im supposed to take a college dropout seriously? Who uses wikipedia as a source? Who debates on discord ? And Interrupts? Gtfo theres 3 scholars and 1 idiot.

@Zoe_r146 2 месяца назад

Lmao destiny is a college drop out who thinks he is qualified for this debate after reading wikipedia 😂😂😂 lex fridman you really showed your bias after years of watching your content I have unsubscribed do not tell me that killing over 20,000 children is a moral and military accurate precision target with a straight face. I can tell you right now that same exact straight face lie was said by hitler himself.

@nighttrain1565 2 месяца назад

The fact destiny has a seat at the table is absolutely hysterical

@burtdandy5755 2 месяца назад

viewers only

@TheLozeszkur 2 месяца назад

the fact that anybody gives this idiot any platform is unbelieveable.

@HostileTakeover555 2 месяца назад

Why? What specifically did he present that was incorrect? Respected Benny Morris agreed with him numerous times through out.

@SerenaLi-dl9bl 2 месяца назад

He was way better than Norm. I don’t know if Norm should have a seat at any table.

@abdc2990 2 месяца назад

@@HostileTakeover555I would give OP the benefit of the doubt here, I think it's funny to see D-man who didn't know jack about this topic 5 months ago being so quick on his feet to dunk on the supposed most fampus pro palestine academic currently.

@xxabulletxx 2 месяца назад

Historian vs Wikipedia's finest redditor

@randommofo123 2 месяца назад

Please don't call fecalstain a redditor.

@jonathonchabluk5070 2 месяца назад

Finkelstein isn’t a historian lmfao

@johnvermassen 2 месяца назад

@@jonathonchabluk5070Raul Hilberg the founder of Holocaust studies disagrees

@jonathonchabluk5070 2 месяца назад

@@johnvermassen I don’t care about what somebody else thinks. Finkelstein is a sociology major, not a history one.

@Greg-cr2dw 2 месяца назад

@@johnvermassen Neat. I guess he's wrong, too, then. Would you also assume the world is flat if he said so?

@ahmaddahbour3091 2 месяца назад

The IDF literally bragged on twitter saying “we know where every bullet landed.”

@robertnicholls9917 2 месяца назад

This is the infuriating part. These Zionist defenders hear them bragging like we do but love playing dumb. They're not there in good faith. The goal is to make people doubt the facts and truth.

@tempacc9589 2 месяца назад

Idf: There are no accidents Mr Borelli: That's just an accident! Destiny sounds like one of those kids defending Iraq war crimes bragging criminal courts exist and our military would never do any war crimes.

@gavinvales8928 2 месяца назад

Citation needed

@Ben-xf7uy 2 месяца назад

We just making stuff up now??? Or just not giving context to fit your narrative??? Hamas are straight up actual terrorist. I guarantee you are a silly kid who has no real consistency when it comes to Israel. What does equal force look like??? Who broke the cease fire on October 7th??? You are incredibly simple minded hahaha. What is the appropriate response for Israel to have to October 7th??

@nerdemoji280 2 месяца назад

@@tempacc9589 There are clips with millions of views of Destiny saying that the IDF commits war crimes. In the debate, he specifically objected to the charge of genocide, and brought a strong argument along with him. I suggest you actually watch the debate instead of mindlessly repeating Hasan's reaction videos. Destiny cleared Finkelstein, who came off as a petulant child. Even Finkelstein's debate partner (who was actually quite good, probably the strongest debater of the four) was embarrassed.

@WillyOrca 2 месяца назад

If you play this at 1.25x speed, Finklestein's tempo is normalized, but Destiny becomes imperceptible. If you play it at .75x speed, Destiny's tempo is normalized but Finklestein's audio sounds like blue whale vocalizations.

@BassFlapper Месяц назад

What a great summary

@Top_Weeb Месяц назад

Finklestein is so majestic.

@ramezqubain8177 День назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@upstanding_citizen 2 месяца назад

Hamas stole a piece of Destiny's beard, that's a disgrace

@rottenfreddy3759 2 месяца назад

Lmao

@illahham 2 месяца назад

KHAMAS

@AQS521 2 месяца назад

His beard always looks so bad even without that scuff mark. It makes him look punchable with that soy beard.

@strangeman9362 2 месяца назад

I bet you're like norm resorting to ad hominems and insults as a means of Winning a debate 😂

@fabianortiz5560 2 месяца назад

Lmmmaaoooooo

@ronenmarom 2 месяца назад

Destiny has a Phd in Wikipedia knowledge.

@suren5174 2 месяца назад

Just as bad as Finkelstein's PhD in Ad Hominems.

@PoliticsReal 2 месяца назад

@@suren5174Destiny kept desperately looking at Wikipedia to get his digs in lol.

@sikkouvol.1996 2 месяца назад

@@PoliticsReal I know you are not that stupid to think that was actually wiki, right?

@PoliticsReal 2 месяца назад

@@sikkouvol.1996 Cope more stan

@chcsab9770 2 месяца назад

@@sikkouvol.1996he is that stupid

@Joseph-tj2in 2 месяца назад

The fact that Destiny irritated Norman Finkelstein enough to insult him but not rabbi Shmuley is pretty wild

@johnathandeleonlopez881 2 месяца назад

Rabbi schmuly is a frauder and knows it. Destiny is just a pseudo intellectual

@Freedomforeverall 2 месяца назад

Look at his face I'd bw irritated too

@Itiswhatitis638 2 месяца назад

It’s because destiny is idiotically arrogant. It’s infuriating when someone doesn’t realise just how ill equipped they are.

@user-nv4nb5ef3g Месяц назад

It's cos he was 1v1 with Shmuley - if you speak slow like Finky 1v1 it can work to your advantage; however, speak slow in a team debate (esp. vs someone like Destiny) & you start to feel like you're letting the side down by being too slow!

@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 Месяц назад

Finkelstein was already irritated with Destiny. Destiny didn't show up at their original debate, if I recall correctly, and was dismissive of Finkelstein's time.

@neyazahmed309 2 месяца назад

Destiny trying to educate a man who spent entire life academically studying the issue😂😂😂😂

@Makonator007 2 месяца назад

Finkle was tbh poor in this debate.

@OmniTranscend 2 месяца назад

@@Makonator007even a poor Norman walks over the childish destiny

@tempacc9589 2 месяца назад

@@Makonator007To anyone who knows nothing Finkle might look poor because Destiny screams loads of lies with enough confidence like a 13 year old child. Go google the four kids killed on the beach. Destiny was 100% lying and Norm was completely right.

@Makonator007 2 месяца назад

@tempacc9589 when you answer on certain questions that are not true, usually it's "that's a lie", or you just tell what the truth is...norm on lots of them just go "don't show ur ignorance", without offering counter points...not all but on a lot of them....even lex stopped him from quoting Benny's line...

@kamahhl 2 месяца назад

Morris, who is the most prominent historian in this topic, agrees with Destiny on everything, so keep coping😂

@TheLeadAttorney 2 месяца назад

You are about to be insulted when they say to you, “With all due respect….”

@joshuafrank4643 2 месяца назад

Glad I read your comment before I wrote mine earlier because I was literally going to write the same exact thing!

@mekbebtamrat817 2 месяца назад

Nice to see you here Lead. It has been a while. I was one of your first subs. Hope you are well.

@malimal4972 2 месяца назад

Lead are you going on anytime soon?

@SDREHXC 2 месяца назад

It’s a really great phrase because for half a second the person thinks they’re being respected until they realize the amount of respect due is none.

@Yondervan2 2 месяца назад

But he lost…

@jjthomas8171 2 месяца назад

Everytime he says “Mr Borelli” I die laughing

@Hankblue 2 месяца назад

At 3:31 it became "Mr Morelli", it only has 3 letters left from the original name 😂

@Konanan 2 месяца назад

Truly the behaviour you expect from a respected historian.

@rehx4 2 месяца назад

Finkelstein is such a charlatan. Whatever you think about the conflict, it exposes your intellect (or laziness) if you are someone who thinks Finkelstein is a good faith actor. END OF STORY. There are plenty of people who make the case for supporting Palestinian causes who don't act in bad faith like Finkelstein. He used every dirty tactic in the book. If you don't understand what I'm referring to then learn more history, do more research and then do a better job of sifting through the ad hominin and false dilemma arguments that Finkelstein crams (like f'ing crazy) into his narratives.

@walkinbeauty7248 2 месяца назад

Because his student named him boring racist.

@JonoMatee 2 месяца назад

Lol yeh classic trolling from Norm. Good on Destiny for handling it so well.

@turntableable 2 месяца назад

Destiny the next day: “Norm Finkelstein called me fantastic”

@lucasbusselen9137 Месяц назад

Clip?

@kevinswanson7740 Месяц назад

LMAO 😂

@abundantharmony Месяц назад

@@lucasbusselen9137it's a joke you fool.

@internethardcase 20 дней назад

@@lucasbusselen9137 brainlet

@uberneanderthal 2 месяца назад

"israel wouldn't do bad things for no reason" seems to be destiny's entire argument

@vitulus_ Месяц назад

So, I think you're being a bit rhetorical here, and instead what you *mean* is probably that Destiny's argument lacks substance, and hence can be reduced down to a one-liner. Am I correct in saying that? If so, why does Destiny's argument in this video lack substance?

@tiktokviral6218 29 дней назад

😂😂😂 dayha doctrine

@yoshi4155 2 месяца назад

3:40 Destiny quotes the UN saying "While the vast majority of protesters acted in a peaceful manner.." 4:18 Destiny saying how Norm referred to the march as "mostly peaceful" as if it's false and ridiculous. He accuses Norm of selectively reading/acknowledging UN statements and then demonstrates straight after what selective reading looks like.

@xXxXxX-x-XxXxXx 2 месяца назад

thank you.

@gregoryo1903 2 месяца назад

This happened the entire debate. Destiny was consistently missing the precision of what was being said, or missing the entire point.

@ozymandias8523 2 месяца назад

Bro Destiny himself said he is pro genocjde against Palestinian (way before oct 7), obviously he will have bias to be pro isrsel

@Scorchxray Месяц назад

Destiny is a defective Uzi spraying everywhere not hitting anything. Finkelstein is a 380mm devastating cannon.

@deanodebo 2 месяца назад

Norms comedic timing is impeccable. I’m not saying the topic is funny, but seriously, the guy has comedic talent

@batheNacid День назад

I dont dickride destiny, but norms attitude was childish for a so called scholar in is research, this debate put me off norm entirely. Absolutely disappointing for such a debate

@toddmenzing6828 2 месяца назад

People making excuses for murdering children. SMH.

@Killer1260 2 месяца назад

It’s called collateral damage my dude … do you know nothing of war?

@Killer1260 2 месяца назад

How many German children died during ww2? Completely unacceptable according to your naive opinion

@toddmenzing6828 2 месяца назад

Yes, horrific and unacceptable. What if they were your kids?@@Killer1260

@toddmenzing6828 2 месяца назад

Your moniker is apt@@Killer1260

@toddmenzing6828 2 месяца назад

It's not a video game. @@Killer1260

@billr2505 2 месяца назад

Killing children is bad.

@spiderqueen601 2 месяца назад

So don’t start wars and use them as shields. And also don’t use teenage soldiers and call them children.

@sov3273 2 месяца назад

@@spiderqueen601 all those points you made were destroyed in this debate you’re not high enough iq to have an opinion on this

@sov3273 2 месяца назад

@@spiderqueen601 All those points were destroyed in the debate

@robertpirsig5011 2 месяца назад

@@spiderqueen601Israel started the war decades ago

@dylanbecker3979 2 месяца назад

Start a war? Israel kills a few thousand palestinians every 3 or 4 years... they call it "mowing the grass" but palestinian lives mean so much less to you that all those times dont count. Unsurprising your view is shared by zionists and nobody else.

@Terminalss 2 месяца назад

Pretty unfair that Mr Finkle had to debate Mr Bonell, Borelli, and Bonelli all at the same time

@jamiejulian5618 2 месяца назад

And MORELLI

@MindForgedManacle 2 месяца назад

Don't steal jokes from the comment section of the original video, come on

@milkyway208O 2 месяца назад

When your ideology and beliefs get proven completely wrong so the best thing you can do is make fun of mispronouncing names:

@kasino7132 2 месяца назад

Stop recycling jokes

@Terminalss 2 месяца назад

@@kasino7132 please dont arrest me 🙏

@IAmNumber4000 2 месяца назад

Destiny’s position in this debate was a coked-up rendition of Ben Shapiro’s “I don’t care about civilian casualties” middle school article

@snakey934Snakeybakey 2 месяца назад

Neither does Finkelstein. He is selectively sanctimonious.

@Taureg 2 месяца назад

Destiny thought his "war is hell" argument was the ultimate checkmate

@Spittin_Bars 20 дней назад

Its definitely adderall or vyvanse, no coke on earth can make you talk that fast while simultaneously saying not a god damn thing.

@AverageToAndrew 2 месяца назад

"Mr. Borelli, you are such a fantastic moron, its terrifying" 🤣 Get em Norman.

@user-rv2zj8zu5b 2 месяца назад

Even Benny laughs

@cluttereddrawers2084 2 месяца назад

80 year old man acting like he is 8 years old and this is your academic lol

@neosyk_ 2 месяца назад

So an empty point without a rebuttal. Are you a child?

@user-rv2zj8zu5b 2 месяца назад

@@neosyk_ isn’t that what you just did?

@helenakolar 2 месяца назад

SO BRILLIANT. 😂

@Support-your-local-team 2 месяца назад

The IDF's body count is tied with Destiny's wife at 30 thousand since October 7th.

@AyatoIlah 2 месяца назад

YOOOOOOOO 🎉

@antoniakarpova 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂😂

@tonywords6713 2 месяца назад

Savage

@heartfeltteaching 2 месяца назад

This is fiiiiiiiiiiire bro

@artfasil 2 месяца назад

ouch

@joefurtek8837 2 месяца назад

He probably isn't even close to the amount of books katt williams has read.

@aca2156 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂

@digjayd 2 месяца назад

Banger

@MandosCulture 2 месяца назад

In a year, Katt clears more than all 5 put together 💪💪💪

@joshuagoldstein8116 2 месяца назад

They only let him take out 20 books at a time!!

@alihamdon6644 2 месяца назад

He smoked so much crack he couldn’t give you a synopsis on a single one

@ahmedshousha1958 2 месяца назад

Finkelstien says: “overwhelming non violent”. Destiny: YoUrE LYING then he reads: “while the vast majority….”Then he continues to cry about it like he is not wrong. This guy is suffering from cognitive dissonance, he is not well versed on the issue and he super qualifies all his statements to weasel his way through arguments. Destiny is a skilled weasel, that’s all he is.

@Brotherken1234 Месяц назад

Weasel. Perfectly describes him. 👍

@Top_Weeb Месяц назад

He is, in fact, a weaselly little liar dude.

@ajaj6621 Месяц назад

It just demonstrates the difference between a skilled debater who is knowledgeable on the subject matter vs an internet debate lord

@Helios-- Месяц назад

He's suffering from being a fantastic moron. Dr. Finkelstein diagnosed him accurately lol

@leftoflibra 22 дня назад

This part… he’s a debate bro… they train to talk the loudest and fastest not because they are right or wrong they just want the perceived “win” by not allowing the other side to talk

@BowlSoHard 2 месяца назад

Mr. Broccoli’s nervous tick with the pen is hilarious 😂

@TSEliot1978 2 месяца назад

Why is Destiny even debating with University Professors? 😂😂😂

@HostileTakeover555 2 месяца назад

Finklestein was denied tenure because of his incompetence. What specifically did he say that was incorrect? Morris who Finklestein lauds in this clip complements him throughout.

@SerenaLi-dl9bl 2 месяца назад

What is this dumb gatekeeping just look at what they actually said

@oscarjarzmik8453 2 месяца назад

@@HostileTakeover555 He wasn't denied tenure for "incompetence." You're either an idiot or you just think we are.

@xmathmanx 2 месяца назад

lol, what kind of dimwit still respects university ranks?

@sehbanomer8151 2 месяца назад

@@SerenaLi-dl9bl hard to do that when they keep talking over each other. At least the universtiy professors have proper debate etiquette. Destiny appear to care about winning, not the truth, from what I've seen in this clip.

@stevebowen6071 2 месяца назад

I'm sure destiny's wife's boyfriend is very proud of how he handled himself in this debate.

@keithframe3489 2 месяца назад

lmao

@barney10240 2 месяца назад

Nah, both of them left him with the kid lmao

@SirArghPirate 2 месяца назад

@@barney10240 no way?!

@701delbronx8 2 месяца назад

She broke up with him to date a Swedish twink she was already sleeping with

@Rio-zh2wb 2 месяца назад

lol

@calebtatro6512 2 месяца назад

In fairness, Norm sat politely through three and a half hours of bullshit before he lost his temper🤷🏻‍♂️

@lucasbusselen9137 Месяц назад

Then you obviously didn't watch it lol

@winistan 2 месяца назад

Lex telling Finkelstein off for the "hilarious" remark is HILARIOUS because the same Lex was as mute as a fish when Destiny was literally LAUGHING in the room.

@rafaelrivasducca3979 Месяц назад

Lex did show a Zionist bias...even if he himself isn't. Hasbara??

@abeltesfaye_ Месяц назад

Lex literally interviewed genocidal war-criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu, and said he did that interview to, "add love in the world." He tweeted it & that tweet is still up for a source. Lex is clearly not objective and supports Zionism. Take that as you will.

@mateopavolini 29 дней назад

I dont think he told him off, he was excusin (what i assume was himself) for laughin

@Bmarr33 2 месяца назад

Finkelstein directly said ...."overwhelming majority", which means he did not lie. Destiny needs to listen a little more and talk less. He so wanted to get a point out that he forgot to make sure it was correct.

@MindForgedManacle 2 месяца назад

To be fair, I think they were complaining about Rabbani. But even he said "clear majority", so it came across as pearl clutching over irrelevant semantics.

@ESmorgue 2 месяца назад

The fact a guy wants us to believe, that aligns himself with men, women can be men. Is hilarious. He such an insight on history but denies recorded and established medical/scientific history. This dude is a clear fraud a fence jumper setup by powerful people to try and influence the youth into a certain narrative.

@eddieleon9608 2 месяца назад

You haven’t even seen the debate…. All these people shitting on Mr. Vitelli didn’t form their own opinions

@toneloke454 Месяц назад

Your right, how was just deliberately misleading, which is still a slimy form of lying

@suarezguy 19 дней назад

They both seem oddly, at least overly heated, Destiny slightly more overly confrontational (but the two close) when they were actually mostly agreeing that it was mostly not completely peaceful.

@poundcakeboi3104 2 месяца назад

Destiny is what happens when a chronically online kid who took AP classes in high school maintains an adderall addiction into adulthood.

@b.pack3 2 месяца назад

Solid Facts. He makes me embarrassed to be a millennial. Isn’t funny how every single nerdy beta male has a full beard? It’s like it’s their last reminder that they’re actually real men. lol what a bunch of jokes.

@blackdynamite_5470 2 месяца назад

He took way too many classes of socialism

@axileus9327 2 месяца назад

He does verbalize arguments like he’s writing an ap essay examination. Cramming as much as he can into the space available, attempting to indicate his authority on the subject based on his ability to regurgitate officially recognized facts and dates. It’s a lot less impressive when everybody can see you rapidly googling though in the middle of the discussion. It’s also void of meaningful analysis.

@y.s7787 2 месяца назад

@b.pack3 so true

@russe19642 2 месяца назад

Obviously don't like him,but every debate I've seen he's wiped his opponent. So I guess your man got mauled before and you're sad

@FelixGA9 2 месяца назад

Destiny just comes off like he went to the Ben Shapiro school of fast talking B.S. He just wants to look like he’s the smartest one in the room. For a historian, Morris seemed very biased.

@Jacqueline888 2 месяца назад

but fink isn’t biased? 😂

@cluttereddrawers2084 2 месяца назад

Any specific criticism? Lol

@roiseven4749 2 месяца назад

morris' own colleagues in new history claim he's gone off the deep end. he's no longer a serious critical analyst

@Jacqueline888 2 месяца назад

@@roiseven4749 didn’t finklestein’s own colleagues deny him tenure for ad hominem attacks lol

@shmeggley 2 месяца назад

@@Jacqueline888No, he got railroaded for not toeing the Zionist line

@user-lr6vd1cw7s 2 месяца назад

Instant internet classic, will be back in ten years to comment to the next generation that I watched it live.

@Iamangelocmedia 2 месяца назад

1:53 I’ll even answer Moron’s question 😂😂😂 yoooooooo

@willgia 2 месяца назад

Well respected academic, btw

@eugenekrabs869 2 месяца назад

Talking to wikipedia's finest btw@@willgia

@Wyllowisp 2 месяца назад

@@eugenekrabs869Yet he still came out worse than Ms. Bugatti. How embarrassing.

@spine5175 2 месяца назад

@@willgia yeah he has been writing about this subject before borelli was even conceived. Im sorry bro but even well respected academics have their limits to how much ignorance they can sustain.

@Soap010 2 месяца назад

well he was being a moron@@willgia

@paulconnelly4050 2 месяца назад

I dont anything about the guy with the beard but he reminds me of the old saying, 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing'.

@cluttereddrawers2084 2 месяца назад

Any examples? Or you're just getting a feeling you can't back up because you randomly dislike him lol

@paulconnelly4050 2 месяца назад

@@cluttereddrawers2084 you watched it like I did. What do you need quotes for? Do you want me to 'cherry pick' 😂

@suf1an658 2 месяца назад

@@cluttereddrawers2084as he was reading the report he clearly fucked up. Henece why he read it so fast and mumbled past the part where the report said it was overwhelmingly peaceful. In a large protest of thousands of people there will always be minorities that get careied away and violent, that doesn’t justify the hundreds of killings and attacks on civilians (unless they're Palestinian because they're obviously savages and radicalised ofc ). His debate partner himself literally admitted the IDF acted poorly during the great march and condemned it before Destiny read the report.

@LedragLP 2 месяца назад

the irony of this statement is unfathomable, enough comments for today

@cluttereddrawers2084 2 месяца назад

@@suf1an658 the UN reports the crowd was setting fires at the fence, flying incendiary kites which damaged agriculture, so yes overwhelmingly peaceful, with a tiny minority setting fires and flying fires into Israel. Nobody justified attacks on civilians, destiny and benny both said soldiers in the IDF who targeted people like that should and some have been tried for it.

@mukesh_bombay 17 дней назад

“I will even answer moron’s questions” underrated line

@rchaudhury3532 2 месяца назад

Norm,Mr Borelli ,Mr Morelli and Mr Marselli walk into a bar

@jorjethezebra 2 месяца назад

"Im seeing double, call them both fantastical genocidal morons"

@theredgoblin562 2 месяца назад

All of them argue about politics while their wives leave with different men

@jonathand3842 2 месяца назад

will never understand why you guys refuse to engage with the topic and keep the focus on people's wives they ain't your wives why do you care, focus on the topic why is it that destiny is wrong i'll wait@@theredgoblin562

@orion00 2 месяца назад

...and then the nursing home came and took Norm and his three imaginary friends back.

@bighillraft 2 месяца назад

@@theredgoblin562 Destiny probably ok with that, he can work it into his schedule

@CocoaBeanWhip 2 месяца назад

absolutely brilliant comedy, after repeated minutes of enough shouting over each other to give one tinnitus, Lex reveals to us that he is actually the moderator that is moderating a moderated debate.

@BeeVee-zz9ip 2 месяца назад

Funniest part hands down “this is not hilarious”

@megleyd 2 месяца назад

HAHAHA

@aga5109 2 месяца назад

It is not easy to moderate while people shout at each other 😂. Lex, come to group therapy, and you know what l mean. Only jocking 😂. In group therapy, setting anything can happen, but a very important task of a group leader - therapist - is to present, apply, and implement the rules of a group. Otherwise , chaos will spread. P.S. Have you seen the meme ? 😂😅😅

@user-ym7ss6xb3j 2 месяца назад

the funny part is that Lex is pro-israel himself 🤡

@danielharrington5690 2 месяца назад

He said in beginning of debate he was going to let it roll because emotions of this debate "speaks volumes" or something like that lol

@Joesledge13 2 месяца назад

Destiny shouldn’t even be in the room.

@adrianomfg 2 месяца назад

“Then let me educate you?” Destiny a RU-vid gamer, has the audacity to say that to PROFESSOR Finkelstein?

@AjaxDGonzo Месяц назад

Finklestein who couldn’t remember dolus specialis even though he claimed to have read that document 3 times? The same guy that kept cutting off the person reading from the actual document. The guy who kept trying to explain to an author what that author meant in his own book? The one the moderator had to cut off twice in the debate?

@Lysergicide25 Месяц назад

@@AjaxDGonzo In all fairness, Norm has been studying this for 40 years. His memory isn't as good as it once was.

@AjaxDGonzo Месяц назад

@@Lysergicide25 well and assuming all of the scholars have read 10,000 books then to average it that’s at least 3,333 for Norm, plus rereading books too. His brain must be fried, but it doesn’t compare to Katt Williams

@kevinswanson7740 Месяц назад

@@AjaxDGonzo the bozo read the UN report that said the March was MOSTLY PEACEFUL and then said Norm was lying about the March being mostly peaceful. Don’t try and save face for this dipshit 😂

@altairauditore1398 Месяц назад

@AjaxDGonzo what are u talking about? He remembers it.. he just wanted to point out that the correct term in this context is "mens rea"

@thespaniard3988 2 месяца назад

The most animated I've seen Norman Finklestein in a conversation.

@kalikiter1 2 месяца назад

It’s because he’s being challenged in ways he’s never been and it frustrates him. Pretty par for the course.

@AliLikesIdeas 2 месяца назад

@@kalikiter1 whatever you say

@saifalam2030 2 месяца назад

@@kalikiter1 challenge by who. You tubers who are justifying a Holocaust . Kanye did what destiny is doing he was cancelled by everyone

@magicsaint 2 месяца назад

@@kalikiter1 challenged by a video gamer?! It is more like Norman is putting up with people who are not even on the same caliber of knowledge as him.

@YesLads-tt6ue 2 месяца назад

@@saifalam2030????????

@citiboiroi 2 месяца назад

Stephen “Motormouth” Borelli

@m.d.sharpe8892 2 месяца назад

Brr-brrrOOM. BRRRRROOOOOM

@JTNugget 2 месяца назад

Methmouth

@mutamirmukhzani1240 2 месяца назад

@@JTNuggetfirst instance I notice someone calling him out

@martrex2 2 месяца назад

Mr. Morelli.

@proud_islamphobe 2 месяца назад

mr.thoroughelly

@thegalaxylab 2 месяца назад

while Destiny can definitely argue an interpretation that he wants to...the idea that Destiny thinks he can school Finkelstein on the FACTS of the conflict is laughable and reveals he's nothing but a sophist.

@johnym1 2 месяца назад

Exactly. It's funny that his fans on this thread are viewing him as a high intellectual or is knowledgeable on the matter, is laughable. the guy came from gaming to going on dating advice platforms to a political RU-vidr. He is just drifting to whatever is currently a major topic.

@eddieleon9608 2 месяца назад

If you think you are right, give me specific examples where Destiny is wrong in arguing Finkle, and finkle is right. I don’t believe you’ve formed your own opinion if you can’t.

@eddieleon9608 2 месяца назад

@@johnym1Is this opinion formed by you? Show me an example

@johnym1 2 месяца назад

@@eddieleon9608 that's a weird question don't you think? Or is it that you can't search on RU-vid and find out. Unless, you are a fake account.

@johnym1 2 месяца назад

@@eddieleon9608 I don't believe you are and actual account. How about that. Didn't we watch the same clip? I can't wait for your next comment.

@K55365 Месяц назад

7:07 let's see Destiny defend the recent killing of the foreign aid workers by Israeli drones.

@ri3121 Месяц назад

He didn't. Unlike other figures he isnt married to one side in an ideological manner. He called the IDF out for this drone strike and condemned it. Even though he supports Israel as a whole, he is willing to call out the wrongs of his side, something pro-palestinians cannot do.

@iTzsimplefx7 26 дней назад

@@ri3121 How can they though? I don't think you realise the passive aggressiveness coming from your statement.

@PMcGJellyP 2 месяца назад

There was a moderator that whole 5 minutes?!?

@TheJalinmyles 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂😂 yes!!

@amineHighTube 2 месяца назад

Lex intentionally let them express as they wish

@derbarone 2 месяца назад

bro there was an moderator the whole 5 hours and i didnt notice

@zainubumar 2 месяца назад

😂

@aga5109 2 месяца назад

Have you seen the meme😂😂😂? Look it up.

@dykemichaels2194 2 месяца назад

I didn’t know Lil Dicky was so political.

@glasgowblackchigowski6117 2 месяца назад

It's ironic how that name fits him given the latest turn of events in his life 😂

@mollykyoto5220 2 месяца назад

@@glasgowblackchigowski6117 Please tell me if its about this Destiny moron, I can barely stand the secondhand embarassment as soon as he opens his mouth/and or "expressing himself" when someone else talks - in all the wrong places + its overshadowing my anger, too much shame - so I need a release, gossip will do if its funny/degrading, haha

@MehulPatelLXC 2 месяца назад

Man, I always wondered who it was that he reminded me of!

@masterp401 2 месяца назад

Few months ago he didnt even know where isra3l is on the map😂 he came prepared with his wikipedia knowledge😂

@Cheeseburger33333 2 месяца назад

@@masterp401must suck to be a norm fan right now when his years of research cant stand up to wiki warriors

@shadowcoder887 2 месяца назад

What episode of Jerry Springer is this?

@LeMerch 2 месяца назад

It’s a blooper

@mrmanic4151 2 месяца назад

"JEREMIAH! JEREMIAH! JEREMIAH!"

@snuffcarl 2 месяца назад

HAHAHA! Shame. Could have been great. I almost didn't make it through all 5 hours.

@grippercrapper 2 месяца назад

RIP Jerry Springer. We will never forget your trailer trash fights.

@joshuagoldstein8116 2 месяца назад

Destiny.......you are NOT the father!

@alileevil 2 месяца назад

"You got the month wrong". Video game streamers should stick to video games.

@cluttereddrawers2084 2 месяца назад

And the academic should get his facts right when he's read 10,000 books on the subject 😂

@Claude-dp3mx 2 месяца назад

Even worse is this: 3:40 Destiny quotes the UN saying "While the vast majority of protesters acted in a peaceful manner.." 4:18 Destiny mentioning that Norm referred to the march as "mostly peaceful" as if it's false and ridiculous.

@anewmythos9021 Месяц назад

There was a missed opportunity here to clearly point out a contradiction Destiny was making. Destiny emphasized how unlikely it is that civilians were targeted by the IDF simply due to the rigorous checks and balances built into the chain of command, ie it would have to be approved at higher levels, not just by one soldier. But then minutes later he concedes that members of the IDF likely have targeted civilians at times. My question to Destiny would then be, of those cases that you acknowledge civilians have been targeted, by your own logic wouldn’t those have also been approved all the way up the chain of command? This is important because it actually makes Norms point even stronger, Destiny’s own argument proves that these are not just one off rogue soldiers killing civilians, but a deliberate goal of the IDF.

@bayanbishara6666 21 день назад

not to mention how the idf killed israeli civillians as well with the testimony of israelis themselves like why wouldnt they kill palestinians?

@johnniiee146 2 месяца назад

To be fair he called Mr. Bonnell quite measured and informed. However regards Mr. Borrelli an absolute monster.

@PoliticsReal 2 месяца назад

Nope. Steven is anything but informed.

@Blibetyblabla 2 месяца назад

Stevelli on the other hand is quite informed

@lampad4549 2 месяца назад

@@PoliticsRealwhat did he get wrong?

@PoliticsReal 2 месяца назад

@@lampad4549 Everything

@tugger 2 месяца назад

literally everything, he's a lazy pundit who is wildly outclassed @@lampad4549

@Repent759 2 месяца назад

When you put two historians, a journalist and a gamer, together, this is what you get. sickening

@ganixdoesstupidstuff7599 2 месяца назад

The gamer cooked 😂

@j85grim4 2 месяца назад

It's a sign of the decay of the U.S. that now a gamer that doesn't know anything about politics is considered a public intellectual.

@willgia 2 месяца назад

@@j85grim4 oh, I see. You’re saying he said something stupid and wrong and you’re about to point out what he was wrong about, right? I’m so excited!

@j85grim4 2 месяца назад

@@willgiaYes in tha clip he said Isreal never purposely targets civilians even though they have a 90% civilian kill rate with their "targeted bombing". Even if that were true, the 15,000 children are still dead. Want another one?

@nopenerp6862 2 месяца назад

@@j85grim4 where do you get your figures from?

@felixlucanus7922 2 месяца назад

Potentially interesting tactic by Morris at 3:00. He interrupts Finkelstein by saying that he is willing to concede the point and tells him he doesn't have to go any further. He feels uncomfortable with Finkelstein laying out all the facts on record because he knows they are not favorable to his position and so prefers that they not be advertised to the audience. Rabbani shrewdly picked up in this tactic and quickly said he does not know about this case and wants to hear more, even though he is most likely very familiar with it.

@realAdamClinch 4 дня назад

4:52 "I dont read things off of those machines" 🤣🤣 haven't laughed that hard in a good while

@nono9543 2 месяца назад

I tried posting this on Pornhub but they don't accept rape

@kushclarkkent6669 2 месяца назад

I don't laff at r*pe jokes, but this is the closest I've gotten! Props to u!

@timeee2kill 2 месяца назад

@@kushclarkkent6669no literally 😭

@BlueMountainSports 2 месяца назад

We are laughing about all the love in the room.

@mastercharlesdiltardino8058 2 месяца назад

They do if you blur the faced out. I've heard that it's really hard to get videos taken down from the hub.

@Yondervan2 2 месяца назад

Finklestein can’t handle a debate. He crumbled

@MrNinopino 2 месяца назад

Mr Borelli is using that pen 100% as a prop.

@willps_art 2 месяца назад

I don't think he can write and read properly

@shariffseyzza4366 2 месяца назад

this whole zionism thing is an act. everything was prepared and worked on. hahaha. it's a horror movie where all the cast were '' a real time serial killers'' directly or indirectly.

@MrTote191 2 месяца назад

and drinking water every 2 seconds, what a moron

@FalkoJ89 2 месяца назад

@@shariffseyzza4366 you have been fed propaganda through a nasogastric tube since you were born. How could you possibly think for yourself and realize zionism is morally sensible?! You do get it, right? All you're doing is expressing how intellectually limited you are...

@blackdynamite_5470 2 месяца назад

After 6:00 I saw what you meant He ain't writing shit.

@rajmathew6220 2 месяца назад

"Mr Martinelli...talk fast so people think that you're coherent." 4:00

@JaimeG88 2 месяца назад

"You made my argument better than me... you said that they couldn't have done it at the bottom if it weren't also at the top!" 8:08

@mikesheehan5946 2 месяца назад

Too loud didn't read

@henrysarson7417 2 месяца назад

Destiny got destroyed

@bordedup546 2 месяца назад

@@henrysarson7417 norm wouldn't even let him read a quote from the un. very bad faith

@dootnoot867 2 месяца назад

@@bordedup546 thats based

@OhSlugggy 2 месяца назад

@@bordedup546it’s okay, destiny’s whole career is bad faith

@robertcampomizzi7988 2 месяца назад

@@henrysarson7417 Is that what you think?

@lucasmoreno5330 2 месяца назад

"What's your knowledge of the IDF beyond Wikipedia"

@NugKnights 2 месяца назад

Benny is the only person in that room qualified to answer that question. Not Finklstine.

@snoopcelev1590 2 месяца назад

I was in the idf. NF has zero sense what the army is like

@Dunge0n 2 месяца назад

@@NugKnights Whatever sings ya to sleep.

@NugKnights 2 месяца назад

@@Dunge0n Hes the only one who was in the IDF and the only one who speaks Hebrew.

@drinkingrobot2252 2 месяца назад

@@snoopcelev1590gay

@psingh63 2 месяца назад

More appropriate name is Density. Reminds me of a scene from Back to the Future (1985) where George McFly says, "My density has brought me to you". The two historians and Middle East analyst were good participants in an important debate and made reasonable cases for their sides; but what was the function of Density apart from raising Finkelstein's blood pressure.

@mikerosoft1009 2 месяца назад

Exactly. His name should be Density from now on. He's unable to have a conversation without losing it.

@jonathonchabluk5070 2 месяца назад

Norman Finkelstein isn’t a historian lmfao

@heartfeltteaching 2 месяца назад

@@jonathonchabluk5070 He is a highly respected scholar on the topic whose discipline is political science. That his specific discipline is not history matters not

@withinfinite5104 2 месяца назад

Only Mr Borelli, a 35 year old man, could bring life back to Finklestein, who, with all given respect, lives his life at .25 speed

@tonytooshort 2 месяца назад

Remind me what this has to do with the topic at hand

@MP-mx9nf 2 месяца назад

Its such a bs Finkelstein is not talking slow at all. U guys need to get some serenity into your life and train ur attention span a bit

@ScottsOnTheRottenCotton 2 месяца назад

Slow ride, take it easy

@withinfinite5104 2 месяца назад

@@MP-mx9nf I wounldnt call it serenity, Finklestein starts screaming in some points over pretty basic points

@MP-mx9nf 2 месяца назад

@@withinfinite5104haha. Serenity was not related to Finkelstein's performance.

@Letsplay222 2 месяца назад

So it is impossible for the IDF to target children because they are 'organized'? What does that even mean? I wish they wouldn't stop interrupting Finkelstein with non-sequiturs, but on the other hand I wish Finkelstein wasn't so easily wound up.

@Libbathegreat 2 месяца назад

That's what happens when you actually care about and spend your entire life delving into a subject only to show up and have to deal with a shill who cares about nothing and who thinks tired and easily debunked talking points are "gotchas".

@Jockito 2 месяца назад

No the point was that it would imply a top down policy to target civilians if there were drones, etc. used because they would have to be signed off and agreed upon by more than just the guy flying the drone. What this means is that Norm is implying there is a policy to target civilians.

@based4573 2 месяца назад

@@Jockito as we know, the US has never killed children through drone / airstrikes OR targeted civilians. Anyone who actually thinks that there's a team of lawyers sitting there, analyzing the drone footage in real-time to wage whether a AGM should be fired is "regarded", it's just a deflection tactic to emphasize how "careful & moral" they are. If the laywers even go over the drone strike, which I doubt, they'll just look at how many civilians are in an area, and wage whether you should drop leaflets etc. or just do the strike without notice. By your logic, My Lai massacre should not have happened, yet it did & people commit war crimes IN PERSON and listened to their commander.

@mothmoth4366 2 месяца назад

this is a very dumb strawman. None of that is remotley addressing what Jockito said. OF COURSE it's still possible for war crimes to happen despite procedures to stop them. That fact doesn't mean you can just pretend those procedures don't exist in order to paint a war in the most cartoonishly simple terms. @@based4573

@hammurabii.3173 2 месяца назад

@@based4573 All you have said doesn't disprove the lack of a policy to target civilians wich was the initial claim. How hard is it to just follow what was said? Making the argument that targeting civilians is endemic in the IDF is completely different than arguing that there is a military policy to target civilians.

@uhwaykin 2 месяца назад

Lex should honestly be embarrassed for sitting Mr. Bordacelli at that table.

@lucasbusselen9137 Месяц назад

Without "mr bordacelli" the debate would most likely not even happen

@67y3j3fv2wg 2 месяца назад

Norm absolutely hates the fact that a chipmunk like Destiny is in this debate

@gtlogic6023 Месяц назад

Especially when he calls out Norm on all his bullshit. Think norm needs to up his book reading comprehension.

@67y3j3fv2wg Месяц назад

@@gtlogic6023 So you also agree that Destiny is a chipmunk. Good.

@gtlogic6023 Месяц назад

@@67y3j3fv2wg don’t care what destiny is. Be more mindful of frauds like Norm that rely on sleazy appeals to authority to make their points.

@67y3j3fv2wg Месяц назад

@@gtlogic6023 Norm is a political scientist and a researcher of the Holocaust and the Israeli Palestinian conflict. He is also an author and a university lecturer. In other words, he has spent decades studying and researching these two topics and also lecturing at universities on the subjects. I'm not sure which part of that you think is sleazy though. What are Destiny's credentials on the subjects? I don't know if you have spent some time learning and researching something and knowing it really well and then having some guy challenging you on your craft based on stuff he read about it on Wikipedia. Also, and most importantly, Norm is an activist for the rights of Palestinian people. He probably has been that for as long as Destiny has been alive. Destiny is a very arrogant and ignorant chipmunk and I don't blame Norm for losing his 💩.

@67y3j3fv2wg Месяц назад

@@gtlogic6023 Norm is a researcher, scholar and activist. His fields of study are the Holocaust and the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Destiny was no match for him here, no wonder he got annoyed by his presence.

@crd9191 2 месяца назад

“Go look this up on your machine!”

@Cyri51 2 месяца назад

that was hilarious

@doublestarships646 2 месяца назад

Old man doesn't like machines because it has facts.

@jashanarora17 2 месяца назад

@@doublestarships646Well, he remembered facts more than anyone in the debate. Books > machines

@ringo1018 2 месяца назад

@@doublestarships646please take a shower immediately

@commercialbreak9531 2 месяца назад

@@jashanarora17 if by remembering facts you mean constantly misquoting books from the guy sitting right across the table from you until the moderator has to tell you to move on, then sure.

@Gamedino 2 месяца назад

What episode of Curb is this from?

@UnfinishedBob 2 месяца назад

The one where Susie Greene says: nobody appreciates my complexity. And Larry says: How complex can you be? You're a Jew from the Bronx.

@SteinBergsson 2 месяца назад

@@UnfinishedBob Perfect... :D

@MrDemian0666 2 месяца назад

Wonderful moment. Not sure why people still give Destiny any oxygen anymore.

@phukuhu7310 2 месяца назад

Because there are a lot of young and dumb people on the planet.

@rogerpicatus 2 месяца назад

Next time someone starts running their frantic mouth that's precisely what I'm going to say: "Mister Borrelli, you're such a fantastic moron it's terrifying."

@quinto34 2 месяца назад

Telling Finkelstein 'let me educate you'..😂

@coenhealy-johnson5194 2 месяца назад

And he did. Finkelstein was completely uneducated when it came to the processes of ordering/undergoing strikes.

@snoopcelev1590 2 месяца назад

@@coenhealy-johnson5194 Exactly.

@Jockito 2 месяца назад

Norm getting some of his own condescending medicine

@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440 2 месяца назад

Norm is a kook

@_Addi_ 2 месяца назад

Finklestein literally tried to 'educate' Benny on his own book lmao. Cope and seethe.

@chocolatecosmos1424 2 месяца назад

It was worth watching the entire "debate" just to have Professor Finklestein say what I have been dying to say to Dustinia for years.😂😂😂

@Libbathegreat 2 месяца назад

I think you mean Density.

@chocolatecosmos1424 2 месяца назад

@@Libbathegreat What makes you think that?

@olisaer3486 2 месяца назад

@@chocolatecosmos1424 its actually dustiny

@olegnurmagomedov750 2 месяца назад

Despicy

@olegnurmagomedov750 2 месяца назад

Dustbiny

@all-caps3927 19 дней назад

The fact that Mr Pirelli even has a seat at that bloody table is the joke of all jokes.

@MT-kx2uc 17 дней назад

Destiny randomly circling his note pad is fascinating. He knows he's out of his depth. Hilarious.

@stratocaster1986able 2 месяца назад

Norm "I choose my words wisely" (Also Norm) " MR BORELLI"

@fankaydarius5849 2 месяца назад

That is not contradictory

@AC-it8rm 2 месяца назад

@@fankaydarius5849 He's either senile or a 70 year old "scholar" employing 3rd grade debate tactics by pretending to not know someone's name. Don't know which one is worse.

@xxPenguinKnight7xx 2 месяца назад

It's intentional disrespect. Nobody outside of reddit knows his name. It's the "who omegalul" before the internet.

@mellgee 2 месяца назад

@@xxPenguinKnight7xxI agree. I believe norms points was to demonstrate how forgettable and insignificant Mr. Bartolli is at the table.

@beansdestroyer 2 месяца назад

@@AC-it8rm he either has dementia or is just a bad faith hack

@juneshasta 2 месяца назад

How I wish Lex was at my family's Thanksgiving table, "Just a quick pause..."

@blackdynamite_5470 2 месяца назад

Why are they arguing about whether Islamic terrorism is a good thing or not?

@mikerosoft1009 2 месяца назад

@@blackdynamite_5470because it's an endless debate. Guy 1 "You did this!" Guy 2 "Well you did this!" Guy 1 "Well you did this!" Guy 2 "No we didn't but you did this!"

@ismailchennani4466 2 месяца назад

@@blackdynamite_5470 why the other arguing if killing civilians is bad or not

@davidmacnab5213 5 дней назад

"Moron" is an understatement.

@Barak_Ethan Месяц назад

Having that kid on with them made it very unpleasant to watch. I commend the other three.

@kungfubuju8388 2 месяца назад

Can we please call him mr. Borelli?? 😂😂

@Dan0TheMano 2 месяца назад

Nah, he deserves to be named after a stripper in Ft. Lauderdale.

@rootin222 2 месяца назад

I think it’s a courtesy from where he comes from that when you talk to somebody that you’re not mutual that the respectful thing is to address them by their last name

@screamstation 2 месяца назад

let's have a vote between Morelli and Borelli.

@jacobwalsh7209 2 месяца назад

@@rootin222 His last name isn't Borelli lol, he was intentionally getting it wrong even though he does actually know it.

@rootin222 2 месяца назад

@@jacobwalsh7209 maybe it’s his New York accent

@TheAbsoluteSir 2 месяца назад

The real question is why wasn't Lex moderating more?

@LimpyDog 2 месяца назад

In the full version Lex have a disclaimer in the beginning where he states he won’t moderate

@snuffcarl 2 месяца назад

I heard that disclaimer, the question is why he made that choice ?

@HelloOki 2 месяца назад

why would you want the arguing to stop thats what were all here for idiot

@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078 2 месяца назад

он был в ахуе

@stratisclouds 2 месяца назад

@@snuffcarlbecause this is raw

@sunwukong6917 2 месяца назад

Norm was right in everything

@snakey934Snakeybakey 2 месяца назад

"Mr. Bortellini, let me just ask you this? Did you or did you not vote for Benito Mussolini?" "That happened to 64 years before I was born," "Don't try to change the subject Mr. Boteccelli."

@BENDANZHU 2 месяца назад

When a level 1 newbie meets a level 100 raid boss..

@MagneVikjord 2 месяца назад

Don’t you think Norm is getting completely outclassed in this clip? He’s messing up so hard on the military targeting piece

@djwestbrook36 2 месяца назад

@@MagneVikjord lol your seeing something completely different 😂😂😂

@codyvandal2860 2 месяца назад

@@MagneVikjord Except IDF commanders are literally on the record discussing the deliberate targeting of civilians as military policy. How you don't know this basic fact I have no idea

@Jockito 2 месяца назад

@@codyvandal2860If that's true, why didn't Norm mention that in this debate if he's such an expert?

@codyvandal2860 2 месяца назад

@@Jockito "If" it's true? It is true.

@70othl3ss4 2 месяца назад

Can we all just respect the fact that finklestein is such a gentleman, to talk as slow as humanly possible to make sure Lex gets all that sweet ad revenue.

@UnfinishedBob 2 месяца назад

I for one can't wait to taste FIJI water.

@teedeed5390 2 месяца назад

He’s not to be truffled with in this matter he’s educated and dedicated on Palestinian Isreali occupation facts and figures that’s are verified not just usual lies

@Idcwhatyouthink1234 2 месяца назад

I support McDonald’s

@revanfein 2 месяца назад

I can't think of a better way to describe Mr. Borelli...

@adolfwigga 2 месяца назад

Intellectual can't own a gamer so he has to resort to insults 😂 that's when you know youve lost, when youve become that emotional

@revanfein 2 месяца назад

@@adolfwiggasometimes you win the argument and point out the idiocy of your opponent.

@adolfwigga 2 месяца назад

@@revanfein winners don't get emotional and butthurt. He's an old man and came off incredibly immature. Not a good look if you want to look reasonable. Which clearly a person using insults isn't and clearly isn't winning anything. Children act this way when they don't get what they want.

@revanfein 2 месяца назад

Agree to disagree my friend. I enjoyed every bit of smashing that Finklestein laid on this clown who thinks he is an intellectual. Some people are not even aware of their idiocy, it is a service to them to point it out.

@sampson4886 2 месяца назад

@adolfwigga hahaha coping hard bro. It's an insult to finkelsteins existence he has to debate a grifter that doesn't clearly know what he's talking about

@creestee2229 2 месяца назад

They tried to get ben shapiro but he didnt want to debate finkelstein so they settled with Destiny

@OmniTranscend 2 месяца назад

Destiny and Shapiro. 2 cheeks of the same butt

@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 2 месяца назад

LOL one of the rare moments where shapino shows a glimpse of intelligence, nice.

@kaif4941 18 дней назад

@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 shapiro only won debate with college child

@ace6664 2 месяца назад

"an entire apparatus is designed to approve a strike" like the iraq war until julian d'assange leaked the strikes right?

@plumbus813 2 месяца назад

Different country, different military

@ambot186 2 месяца назад

Is julian d'assange in the room with us right now?

@thelastsigmamale 2 месяца назад

@@plumbus813every military usually does this shit, don’t be naive

@fafolaw 2 месяца назад

Until someone proves otherwise leaking info or something like that, no

@YotamAlbalach 2 месяца назад

@@fafolaw Someone people believe "guilty, until proven innocent" when it comes to anything pro-Western. It's definitely not a clear sign of Marxism, don't worry about it. Forget I've said anything.

@aminezouagui238 2 месяца назад

So if the IDF is so well organised how are they still making so many mistakes and killings kids, women, and babies ? Either they're so uncompetent despite having all that process of chain of commande Or they're doing it on perpus and are targetting civilians Both scenarios are chatastrophique and unacceptable and must be stoped

@MehrdadParthian 2 месяца назад

this is the best example of why you shouldn't bring a kid to the grown ups party. this girl destiny, just kept on wailing instead of having either a pen in his hand and take notes when professors are speaking or at least have the dignity of being indignant enough to have an ice cream cone in his hand and sit and laugh at them while they have a discussion about the past, present and the future of the middle east. i bet Lex is punching a hole in every wall he sees right now...

@JohnLast300 2 месяца назад

Everytime Destiny speaks Norm is enraged lmao

@outvoid6847 2 месяца назад

shows you how scared he was of letting him speak

@invadercem2 2 месяца назад

@@outvoid6847🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 okay

@masonterhorst 2 месяца назад

@@invadercem2 🤡

@lzsmashv2208 2 месяца назад

@@outvoid6847your coping so much 😂

@outvoid6847 2 месяца назад

@@lzsmashv2208 if his arguments are so stupid you'd expect a 40 year scholar on the subject to debunk them like its nothing. Instead he acted like a scared child

@akwall47 2 месяца назад

This is unlistenable

@digjayd 2 месяца назад

Most Israel Palestine debates are unlistenable

@Dziaji 2 месяца назад

Agreed. All 3 insufferable.

@zachdave2994 2 месяца назад

Norm never stops talking

@kushclarkkent6669 2 месяца назад

Perfectly listenable to me. Maybe get your ears checked.

@porquee 2 месяца назад

NORM NORM NORM NORM

@naldof6732 Месяц назад

Norm: Kids got unalived by top snipers. Destiny: *chuckles*

@jl8410 2 месяца назад

Destiny needed this. He and his fans consider him an intellectual because he sounds smart when he’s “debating” dipshit influencers. He’s so out of place here in a roomful of academics. He and Benny Morris are lacking morality on this. The rationalizations these two have made about the genocide going on in Gaza against an oppressed population is despicable.

@sohail4287 2 месяца назад

Can't imagine the ego you must have to go up against a bunch of academics after reading only wikipedia. He calls Vaush lazy (which he is) for not doing any research, but Destiny barely does anything beyond some surface level reading. Honestly, he's made up his mind before he goes into a topic and reads some things to confirm it and some common counters people use

@Longestspring 2 месяца назад

Well said

@viech7595 2 месяца назад

I think he did good. He never argued that he was as or more knowledgeable than any of the people there. That said, Norman Frankenwien is clearly a schizo lol

@CR33SIVE 2 месяца назад

@@sohail4287 What exactly was he uneducateed on? And if he was uneducated on these things, why did Norm freak out at his claims and insult him as opposed to dismantling his arguments? Sounds like he didn't know how to dismantle his arguments.

@mrcool1519 2 месяца назад

@@CR33SIVE Because his "claims" were obviously bs and deserved to be ridiculed. Imagine making these claims with all the videos out there surfacing online. This guy is out here trying to paints these people as saints lmfao.

@emissary_kyle 2 месяца назад

The only way my month would be completed would be if Destiny had a sparring session w/ Sean Strickland.

@eugger3011 2 месяца назад

You know you're seething when you wish physical harm on someone instead of actually refuting any of their points.

@balzinderchhabra8804 2 месяца назад

This is the intellectual version of that. 🤣

@chrishernandez8504 2 месяца назад

@@balzinderchhabra8804 in what way? Was it when flinkle didn't know about -dolus speciales- that is essential to prove genocide and is cited multiple times in the ICJ report he claims to have read and to save himself he used Mens rea ? That's your intellectual Titan? When a person can out pace your knowledge of a subject in 5 months your no Titan of anything 😂😂

@jebalitabb8228 2 месяца назад

@@eugger3011look at the pfp are you surprised he resorted to violence so fast

@BIMYOUJR 2 месяца назад

@@jebalitabb8228 classic destiny fan, resorting to racism

@MoonBurn13 2 месяца назад

With the exception of Rubani, both sides fired cheap shots: but Team Amphetamine had automatics.

@eddieleon9608 2 месяца назад

Rubanis comment about Destiny being racist etc for not technically calling the Jim Crow era apartheid is pretty ridiculous.

@pugachevskobra5636 13 дней назад

Nah. He was spot on.

@ivywild628 2 месяца назад

There is 4hrs of this!!! WATCH IN FULL its great ❤

@tylermadison2073 2 месяца назад

Benny Morris was living his best life

@davesprivatelounge 2 месяца назад

bro was just there for the destiny roast

@TidyDisarray 2 месяца назад

@@davesprivateloungefr he even laughed at him when he wast being roasted by the opposition 🤣

@hhjhj393 2 месяца назад

@@TidyDisarrayI mean I think he was laughing at how ridiculous Finklestein was. If you watch the whole thing he is out of control here and lex has to talk to him multiple times.

@maquacr7014 2 месяца назад

@@hhjhj393 Nice hasbara.

@maquacr7014 2 месяца назад

@@TapetBart Hasbara is everywhere. Germans tried to warn everyone about this.

@MrMAXZ888 2 месяца назад

Norm "Raging against them machines" Finkelstein.

@dannyarcher6370 2 месяца назад

This needs more likes. Have one.

@zachdave2994 2 месяца назад

Norm “rape and experimentation on millions makes no difference to me” Finklestein. He’s likened Israel to the Reich.

@Gaucho215 29 дней назад

It is essential for individuals to be well-prepared and informed before engaging in a debate. Relying on real-time information retrieval during a discussion may indicate a lack of sufficient preparation. Engaging in a debate should be based on prior knowledge and understanding of the topic, as searching for information during the conversation could be perceived as a lack of expertise on the subject matter.

@melsonperos9566 2 месяца назад

when your calling ad hominem u already lost

@HelloOki 2 месяца назад

He said "hilarious" sarcastically / satirically how did you not pick up on that

@70othl3ss4 2 месяца назад

He was acting like destiny actually found it hillarious tho

@MachoMaster 2 месяца назад

@@70othl3ss4 That was in response to Destiny smiling, laughing and showing that he is not taking the Finkelstein-described crimes seriously.

@cydra_infinity1423 2 месяца назад

Lex is always on Israel’s side

@mojojojo560 2 месяца назад

That’s easy, Lex is a mouthpiece.

@mohammadalirashed3103 2 месяца назад

@@MachoMaster He wasn't laughing at the nature of the crimes, but the manner in which Finklestein was describing them. Obviously nobody thinks innocent people dying is funny.

@runntlan7177 2 месяца назад

This dialog proves that there will never be peace

@zootsoot2006 2 месяца назад

One side driven by logic and attempts to reach a rational solution, the other driven by emotion and literal ad-hominem attacks. Yep, this debate sums up the entire issue.

@runntlan7177 2 месяца назад

@@zootsoot2006 theres no logic when they are both motivated by religious ideologies

@xzxzz7543 2 месяца назад

Are you sure it both sides ....cuz to me one side tries to displace people using 2000 year old excuse while the other side tries to fight back .@@runntlan7177