@@rorybehrens7652 I do too. It's touching, and very sad! If the series had held to book canon this would indeed have been the last time they saw each other.
Even all these years later....that hug between the two of them still brings a tear to my eyes every single time I watch this series. Never was there a relationship more pure and understanding then the love, respect and friendship between Orry and George.
Same here. People usually refer to this series as historical drama, but I usually refer to it as the ultimate story of friendship, that just so happens to have an historical backdrop. These two man may be fictional characters, but I'm sure this sort of train scene happened many times over on the eve of the war.
You don't have to know the story to get this scene....it's that good...One of the best scenes ever filmed.... it evokes all the emotions of the time and the music carries it through. BEAUTIFUL!
One of the most moving scenes in world miniseries history.I really wish HBO or Netflix would air this again because shows like these are scarce nowadays. Brilliant.
Veronica Panella Indeed as was Orry as well. If you've had the pleasure of reading the book series it is well worth the time it's very different from the TV mini series but it's still just as good. (: P. S. You are very beautiful and gorgeous.
George was depicted as the better man overall. Orry showed dark sides to his character, such as when he admonished George to never challenge him to go against his "own kind" and when he told Virgilia to go back to her "n-word" of a husband. After Orry left the Hazard house in anger, and he and George went awhile without speaking, it was George who took the initiative to visit Orry's to apologize and salvage the friendship. Also, when the war was raging, and Orry and Charles went to rescue George from the brutish prison, George remarked that Orry seemed to have done it only out of a sense of obligation. If it had been George rescuing Orry, George would never have made Orry feel that way. Case in point, when he in turn rescued Orry after he was MIA after a battle. And before that, George pulled Orry out of one of his depressed states (after losing Madeleine and his leg), with some tough love. He was definitely a wonderful friend.
@@zukini8763 I disagree with George being the better man . I think one of the most profound lines in the series was when Orrie visited George's ironworks and Orrie sees George's workers. George says "Theyre not like your slaves." Orrie says "Theyre worse." George " At least theyre free to come and go as they please." Orrie" I guess an empty stomach is enough to make anyone stay." This was exactly how things were. The north had slaves just under a different name. They were either either paid slave wages or were indentured servants who could never make enough to earn their freedom because they accrued costs living in the U.S. the irish were slaves. The same thing goes on today all over the world.
I was so glad they got Patrick Swayze to play Orry. One of the few actors who didn’t have to force a Southern accent. His native Texas accent helped make the character so much more alive just like in the book.
I saw him in an interview where he was asked about playing Orry Main... He said the character Orry, through and through, was probably the closest to himself of any part he had ever played...
I thought the series in general could be over-the-top and melodramatic, but this scene here is pitch perfect. And yes -- one of the best friendships ever depicted on TV.
You have to understand the reason for the melodrama. The entire nation was at war families literally fought against each other. People today are afraid to not wear a mask
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This is the most heartbreaking scene throughout the whole series. I'm from the generation where men should not express his feelings and yet, every time I see that scene, I can't help but having a big lump in my throat.
I agree with you and although I write from abroad, I can say that this tv show has marked the end of my childhood and the beginning of my adolescence, at least maybe not just for me but for many people of my generation
I agree I too belong to one of those generations of men that was not supposed to express emotions and this is without a doubt one of my favourite scenes.
This scene sums up the real tragedy of the American Civil War: men who had known each other since their time at West Point, men whjo had fought alongside each other in the Mexican War, now have to part to take sides against each other. And it does show how torn many who eventually went South actually were: they loved the Union, but could not bear to fight the people of their home, the South.
This show really showed the hardships of the Civil War how friendships were tested and torn apart by their allegiances. It was the West Pointers who served on opposite sides that showed it the most. Specially the class of 1861 most of all.
In the novel, Orry was tragically killed towards the end of the war in a battle. I'm glad the miniseries saw George and Orry reunited their friendship as strong as ever.
This scene is likely one of the strongest in friendship between men! It still makes me cry and absolutely can’t swallow because of the emotions this scene portrays between these two men, a strong loyal friendship! The line between George and Orry, where they rather not meet again if it was to be on a battlefield, is so sad 😭 And then they continue their friendship via their bet gives hope for them and their friendship to survive! The music is still amazing! George and Orry are so well played!
Weirdly, I have been in a similar situation. I was born and raised in a very high controlling cult but left about 15 years ago. One of my best friends decided to return after being out for over 20 years herself. While I thought she was crazy to go back, we've somehow managed to retain our friendship even though the religion preaches that I'm an "apostate" for leaving and she shouldn't even talk to me.
I always cry when I watch this scene. This scene sums up all the suffering the Civil War caused our nation. It pitted George Hazard & Orry Main against each other-brother against brother.
wow....the coming of the music in the embracing at 4:05 is epic. I watched this back in the 80s in Spain. For some "unknown" reason....s this ecesion drama came to my mind these days. I hope not te be in the same place as this two friends in the near future.
Yep undoubtedly George was closer to Orry Main than he was to his own brothers Stanley and Billy. And in the same for Orry being closer to George than to Cooper. Although in the book they don't seem as close to each other in the miniseries in my opinion.
The interesting thing is that I think scenes like this occurred in many families and friends during the Civil War. I have watched this many times throughout my life to take different things from it. In 2020, this scene mixed with a bit of drama gives me hope that we as a society can work things out.
It certainly feels like it. I just hope that enough reasonable people are able to come together and put a stop to all this insanity before it's too late.
can you immagine this in reallife? Brothers and Friends divided by war from one day to the next? This scene is sooo insane. Heartbreaking if you just think about it :-(
Leutnant Kropp-- Scenes like this took place, in reality, all across this great country in 1861. If "we the people" don't compromise and come together, scenes like this might take place in our country once again by 2061....
@Just think With the exception of your first sentence above, I disagree with everything you said. There is so much more to the story about Lincoln and slavery, but if you choose to believe, and perpetuate out-of-context anecdotes, that is certainly your right.
How come they can't make good miniseries like that any more? How come they can't write the good books that good mini series, and movies, were based on?
Right now in 2020, I fear we will see this play out again. I served 13 years, I got out due to a injury from an IED in Afghanistan in 2015, but I will return and defend the constitution. I told my friends who support a certain candidate, that I understand their decision but I can't back that, and I feel like this scene with my war time friends. A good friend of mine has been stationed across the country and he's an officer and has stated that he knows what side he will go if that happens and he knows my stance, right before he left we shook hands then hugged. I pray it doesn't come to this. Kills me inside...
Damn those onions. And got damn you Bill Conti! Was this the end of book 1? Anyway, hands down one of the best and strongest scenes in the series. I love the strong and deep friendship they have despite the war.
A true tragedy. Both victims of a situation far beyond their control. Neither wanted to go to war but felt obligated to do so. Add to the fact that they're technically enemies and fear if they meet one might have to take the other prisoner or even shoot them.
Indeed sad and tragic. Two friends who had fought in the previous war in Mexico, and soon a war against each other. This is how this great epic, North and South, should have ended. I am afraid the the sequel that followed a year or so later was a hastily made "girl toy" romance for the My Little Pony Generation, best left undone, or at least put together with greater care and thought. At least the acting in the second movie was of the same quality though the story left much to be desired.
I’m a teenage girl and I can confirm that I cried MUCH harder during this scene than pretty much any other in film history. Started crying the second George took out that blasted ten dollar bill and couldn’t stop crying until the credits came up
The North had the Industrial in population advantage. Most factories capable of producing military weapons were in the Union states. Plus the Union population outnumbered the Confederacy population 2:1. What wasn't anticipated was the South had much stronger military leaders.
The friendship here may only be written by its author and a scene acted out from screenplay ...make no mistake ..man has really no idea ... the words to keep friendship strong ...only actions seem to seal the deal..because the world is a challenge ..and mankind weak to yield to the whispers of the devil...war , death destruction..It is why mankind has the greatest friend in God ..yes in God to help us overcome the evil that walks this earth ...God loves us ..found in John 3:16...this scene if only many could know God in such a manner there would never be any wars ...live in peace and pray for our nation ..God bless America.
A scene which was played out in some fashion or another countless times as the Civil War became inevitable. I've heard stories about West Point and Annapolis cadets at graduation, falling out as comrades and classmates for the last time, and heading off as commissioned officers to begin the first assignment...leading opposing armies against each other. Hard to fathom sometimes, how the fiercest, most vicious, and most costly war America has ever fought-- in terms of not only casualties inflicted and property destroyed, but friendships ruined and family ties ripped apart forever-- was with itself.
yep that's the nature of a civil war, not so civil really, my late grandfather was Catalan and fought in the Spanish civil war. He talked very little about it, but we do know how horrific it was.
No he didn't have any living brothers during the war (might have had one at one point but I'm not positive). It was his brother-in-law's that fought for the South. I think they were all from Kentucky and held slaves. Abraham's wife Mary actually grew up in a slaveholding family.
@Nanjing03 I agree, they were rushed into doing it because the first series did so well in the ratings. They should have done what they did with first series and take 3 years to plan it out good enough. I did like how they kept Orry alive it would have sucked if they did like the book.
