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I found what I believe to be the largest, most consistently fruiting, mature, unprotected mango tree in the world, meaning the farthest from the equator and closest to the Arctic Circle based purely on degrees of latitude. This tree lies at 38 degrees north latitude. This mango tree has been happily growing in a Pittsburgh front yard on the north face of a two-story stucco faced home for the past eight years and started as a simple Philippine mango seedling. It’s proud owner is originally from India and didn’t think twice about planting a mango in front of his house like the trees he grew up with as a child in his home country. The tree is helped out by being in a beneficial climate zone with gentle sloping land that cold air drains away from and lies along a banana belt created by this upland topography and it’s proximity to the cold winter low temperature moderating effect of the large body of water that is the junction of the San Joaquin rivers and Sacramento rivers. Furthermore, the entire front yard is a massive heat sink in that it is completely paved in concrete that meets up to the concrete sidewalk which then meets up to the large asphalt road. All of this paving releases heat at night. This tree could not ask for a better micro climate. It is all of these things that are coming together to create the most perfect spot for this tree to thrive far far far away from its more tropical range. The owner mentioned to me that the tree only has about 30% of the fruit it originally had for this season as he has picked lots of the fruit as of the filming date of August 10, 2018. He furthermore explained that the tree never once suffered from cold damage and fruits reliably every year. This tree proves that it is very possible to not only grow mango trees in the San Francisco Bay area and Northern California in general, but to successfully fruit them every year, and with global warming knocking on our door and ratcheting up temperatures year by year, it seems feasible to consider commercial growing of this fruit in the most protected microclimates of the bay which have enjoy low-temperature protection but that also retain significant amounts of heat during the summer. Most frost free locations in the Bay Area are so becuase of proximity to the modertating effects of the Pacific Ocean and as such are also cool, San Francisco being the best example. Mangos rather, like Marylin Monroe, LIKE IT HOT. This then would favor the thermal cold air draining belts of the Bay Area further inland away from the direct ocean maritime air influence. Currently, it is impossible to procure fresh, local, organically grown mangoes in the San Francisco Bay Area.I believe this will change over the next 20 years. Mark my word. UPDATE 8/14/18- And as I further research Mango culture away from the equator, I see that in in the hills of Southern most Spain near Malaga at about 36-37 degrees north latitude (about the same as Santa Cruz and San Jose), mangos are grown on a commercial scale. This tells me that it is quite likely that a larger unprotected Mango lies further north than this Pittsburg tree either in Spain, Portugal, or possibly another Mediterranean country. I am of course most interested in what is happening in the US and particularly California. I would love to have anyone growing mangos further north in California send me pics or a video and if their tree is larger than this tree, is fruiting, is grown without winter protection, I will crown it "Northern Most Mango" (at least in the Western Hemisphere).

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@Marlene5018
@Marlene5018 3 года назад
Wow! Lucky man with a beautiful mango tree! 😍 I just saw two mango trees in the area of Redwood City ca and Palo Alto ca, just one survived, it’s 4 years old, fruiting from his second year. I am making videos about mango trees as well!
@ernielanderos6467
@ernielanderos6467 3 года назад
I have a sapling that started in my compost bin. I have it in a 5G pot and it’s about 6in right now. It has around 8 leaves with some new growth. I live in Chico Ca
@ninja.widagun2145
@ninja.widagun2145 3 года назад
Yoooo nice man!! I’m in Tracy you inspired me to try haha
@Kreeder766
@Kreeder766 4 месяца назад
Did it work?
@dncviorel
@dncviorel 4 года назад
Pittsburgh is 9b on Hardiness Zone Map. You can play around with mango trees up to 9a, so yes, you can plant them even above 37 degrees North if you find the right microclimate.
@SolidGoldShows
@SolidGoldShows 4 года назад
That's great mate. I am trying to grow mangoes here in the desert in Southern California. I used to live in Northern California close to Fairfield
@whatsgrowingon229
@whatsgrowingon229 5 лет назад
I’m growing mango tree in the same area with my avocado trees in Sacramento Elk area, let see if it will survive this coming winter. Both of my avocado 🥑 one from Lowe’s and one from nursery and they survived winter of last year, today I have 6 avocado 🥑 awaiting to be picked..not sure if I should pick but I’ll wait for the right moment since it is now the season to pick 😆nervous 😆
@zengrow3098
@zengrow3098 4 года назад
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx seedling trees are stronger, he could have grafted onto it and gotten better fruit
@francok38
@francok38 5 лет назад
I started one from seed . I will planted in Vallejo ca . I can’t wait .
@Bazandanlan
@Bazandanlan 4 года назад
sfrisco niners how is the mango 🥭 tree going? I had one from a seed but died on me after 4 months when I planted it in the ground 😞
@MacLaw3084
@MacLaw3084 4 года назад
Bazandanlan i read that you could keep it in a pot for a quite a while so you can bring it inside a few times a year during frost, if possible.
@alankaplan5249
@alankaplan5249 4 года назад
I started with a seed and now have a good looking plant with 6 leaves and growing quite nicely. I live in Pleasant Hill, Ca.
@ThePurpleFlower
@ThePurpleFlower 3 года назад
Alan, I'm in Evergreen, San Jose. I've sprouted a few mango seeds. Do you have any tips on how I can grow it here? last time I tried it grew a few leaves and then died.
@alankaplan5249
@alankaplan5249 3 года назад
@@ThePurpleFlower My mango tree is still doing good. I have another 6 leaves starting to sprout. It needs to be watered every day if it is outside Mine is outside in a pot.
@ThePurpleFlower
@ThePurpleFlower 3 года назад
@@alankaplan5249 Thank you. Today I potted 9 sprouted seeds. Have half of them in my backyard, and half in the kitchen.
@rajaganesh9435
@rajaganesh9435 Год назад
Hi how is the tree doing now
@iandubria6906
@iandubria6906 5 лет назад
Question i have 2 1/2 feet tall mango tree do you suggest i will cut it down to 1 1/2 feet to have another branch?
@Valterxicao
@Valterxicao 5 лет назад
Gary Gragg's True Plant Stories I´m from portugal... there is a mango tree in the city of Coimbra that is much larger than this, also unprotected ... To 40º of latitude coordinate!
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 5 лет назад
OK, this is an official competition. Please send me a picture to gary@goldengatepalms.com. I'd love to see it. The mango farthest from home. The World's bravest mango!
@Valterxicao
@Valterxicao 5 лет назад
@@ScaryHairyGary I send one video and one picture to your e-mail
@Atimatimukti
@Atimatimukti 5 лет назад
@@Valterxicao I have them north of Braga. It all depends on the varieties. Osteen, Kensington Pride, Sensation, Keitt and some others, that flower after the end of March can grow very well here
@Valterxicao
@Valterxicao 5 лет назад
@@Atimatimukti Show me photos. One thing is to have small trees and protected from winter, another is the one that is in coimbra with about 3 and a half meters of height and 4 meters of canopy ... completely unprotected of winter. I have some trees in the street in the zone of leiria, I have a tommy atkins grafted in the street with 2.5 meters of height
@Atimatimukti
@Atimatimukti 5 лет назад
@@Valterxicao My trees are small but I do not protect them in winter. If temperature goes below 4.4ºC when they are with flowers then I protect them. But I only have varieties that flower from April on so very rare if not impossibe to get those temperatures here. Besides, I have a micro clima here in Vila Verde. In my farm, temperatures can be more than 5ºC hoter than farms around. No ideia why this happens but being well protected from north winds can be a major fact. I also grow avocados, macadamia, anonas cherimoia, pitaya,white zapote and sapodilha besides the more comon ones. This year I will try the Ora Pro Nobis from Brasil outside the greenhouse. Sugar cane grows very well (almost a weed :-) )
@UncleGeezy
@UncleGeezy 3 года назад
I’m in Sacramento and just sprouted to mango seeds!!!! Hopefully I can do it like this one!
@aleem076
@aleem076 3 года назад
Can we grow Philippines Mangoes or Indias Alphonso Mangoes here in CA? Specially in Sacramento Area? Any ideas and help please thank you so much.
@UncleGeezy
@UncleGeezy 3 года назад
@@aleem076 yes try it. I’m not a professional but I feel like California has good weather to sprout the seed but when it come down to growing the actual mango I’m not there yet..
@aleem076
@aleem076 3 года назад
@@UncleGeezy Yes I understand fingers crossed :)
@UncleGeezy
@UncleGeezy 3 года назад
@@aleem076 good luck my friend
@masterlu7797
@masterlu7797 6 лет назад
I have like 4-5 large Valencia Pride mango growing in San Jose on a 2 ft tree. Still waiting for my "Big Mup" .
@masterlu7797
@masterlu7797 6 лет назад
My tree is a 4 years in the ground tree. Will not grow big due to turpentine root stock. I see it as a bonsai and is very happy that she bears huge fruits (longer than a dollar bill). Will be harvesting them end of September and eating them green. Thanks
@gardengainzz9191
@gardengainzz9191 5 лет назад
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx Hey Stan, I'm in Hayward too. I'm growing a Glenn Mango. It's in a pot until I figure out where to plant it. It survived last winter with no protection. It's about 4-5ft tall. Heard Glenn is a hardier mango. It fruited for me but the fruit fell after getting about the size of quarter. Better luck next year.
@gardengainzz9191
@gardengainzz9191 5 лет назад
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx thank you for advice! I'm over by chabot college & 92 & my zone says in 10A. Hoping that's accurate!
@gardengainzz9191
@gardengainzz9191 5 лет назад
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx Yea, living near the bay adds that humidity and sort of a shield from any potential frost. Gives me hope with growing all my fruit trees.
@gardengainzz9191
@gardengainzz9191 5 лет назад
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx I'm searching on google maps for that Mango on Tennyson near the Rotten Robbie. Is it over by the apartments next to the gas station?
@thehuntfortruth
@thehuntfortruth 3 года назад
A guy in Canada is getting his to fruit in a green house
@gloriadeguzman5144
@gloriadeguzman5144 4 года назад
Mine is in Hayward. Friuts good.
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 4 года назад
Please send pics to gary@goldengatepalms.com. I’d love to see it!!
@philoscifer
@philoscifer 5 лет назад
What variety are the mango, I live in San Jose and would like to grow some
@ThePurpleFlower
@ThePurpleFlower 3 года назад
I'm in San Jose too. I don't remember the name of the Mangoes I bought - but I got them from a local Indian grocery store. I know they were not any Indian variety. I think they were called "Kent". Very sweet. I sprouted 10 seeds from them...and hoping they will live :-). Try any Mango you can buy from a local grocery store. Just make sure they are well hydrated always. I hope we both are successful in our mango-experiments.
@Realdavidart
@Realdavidart 3 года назад
It's a Caraboa Mango tree that is native to the Philippines.
@alexcontreras6103
@alexcontreras6103 4 года назад
The cement around it provides radiated heat
@vicenterojas9269
@vicenterojas9269 4 года назад
That's a very nice mango tree you have sir .
@rotesdiadem8625
@rotesdiadem8625 3 года назад
Southern Spain is commercial mango growing area and further north. But it's possible even further north along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, maybe up to 42° N as an absolute maximum.
@busker153
@busker153 2 года назад
Well, it seems that I am going to have to add Mango to my list of trees to get planted and growing! I have a lot of Moringa going right now (50+), 4 Fig trees waist high, and 3 Apple seed grown trees to graft known varieties on. I'll leave a branch to be able to see what the seed tree produces for fruit! Who knows, right?
@adamb.8854
@adamb.8854 3 года назад
I need some scions from this tree did you cut some:)? Horn like end-shape of the fruit resembles me of a south-east-asian variety, but dont know exactly. I am from Europe zone 7/b, i am a 20 g pot grower, but i know that people grow them in Sicily(Southern Italy)with success, comercially too. (Kensington Pride,Glenn, Tommy, Keitt) Oranges, Avocados, Pomegranates Rome/Italy downwards close to the coast. Turpentine mango grows and fruits on the French Riviera, also some citrus on the french/italian coastal border. Some people try to grow mangoes on Sardinia, Mallorca, Corsica with more and a less success. Southern Spain is the warmest in Europe, a bit warmer than Sicily, there is a greater production of mangoes in the Malaga area. East side of southern Europe like Greece or Cyprus grow also some mangoes. Outside of Europe Israel for sure. Thanks
@joshblack4291
@joshblack4291 3 года назад
So, those plants you mentioned as indicator plants do well in Sacramento. I'm guessing mangoes would also do well here.
@whatsgrowingon229
@whatsgrowingon229 5 лет назад
Anymore Mango 🥭 tree growers videos in northern CA???
@iandubria6906
@iandubria6906 5 лет назад
Yes! Bought from 99cent’s store, it’s been 3 years now.
@tokindonkeyhu5341
@tokindonkeyhu5341 4 года назад
U still need to protech the Mango Tree during the cold weather season, otherwise, it wont survive or develop to its potential.
@cerverg
@cerverg 2 года назад
I don't want to be that guy but... I've seen mangos outdoors growing in the south of France. So ya probably that mango is not the northernmost mango growing outside
@caligirl486
@caligirl486 5 лет назад
looks like Manila mango
@jonathanblanny7954
@jonathanblanny7954 3 года назад
Would you think I could grow it in south side San Jose right up on the marine layer and I have hibiscus, bougainvillea even on my property
@Kim-FP5
@Kim-FP5 2 года назад
Check out the Glenn Mango, I’m 20 miles south of you and considering that variety as it’s supposedly OK for zone 9-11! HTH!
@jonathanzubia6759
@jonathanzubia6759 4 года назад
this gives me hope i can grow a mango tree in yuba city
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 3 года назад
I have a few (one in the ground others in pots) in Chico, but they haven't experienced a winter yet. Gary has a newer variety that's supposed to be the most cold hardy yet, I'm hoping to get one on those.
@jmart5302
@jmart5302 3 года назад
@@Mrbfgray how’s it going?
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 3 года назад
@@jmart5302 Just entering the cold season so we'll see, few mangos in pots one in the ground all doing well except for one which has never done much. Dozen avocados in the ground for over a yr. most are doing well some thriving with a few maybe ready to carry fruit in a yr. or so. I may put out some heat lamps for a few things any day now just to get them past few coldest hr.s in a night.
@vicentebarragan2336
@vicentebarragan2336 3 года назад
@@Mrbfgray how did it go with the mango tree .im trying to plant one here in yuba city
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 3 года назад
@@vicentebarragan2336 I've got several but only one in the ground which got hit hard one time due to an unexpected first frost, one in pot is looking bad other OK (rated as more hardy but it's never grown much for me either) I had heat lamps for cold mornings except that 1st frost. For comparison my less hardy avos--Reed and Wurtz took just a little damage on top but they too had some thermal protection from below too, virtually no damage on another dozen more hardy avos.
@Atimatimukti
@Atimatimukti 5 лет назад
Are you kidding? I have mango trees at 41º 43' N in Portugal (and a lot of people here also) and you are at 38º 01'N. It depends on the variety. The problem is not so much the temperatura in winter but the temperature as soon as they go in to flowers. So get varieties that flower after April and give fruit before November and also, dward ones that you can cover easy.Trees can get to -3ºC but flowers and fruit die with less than + 4º 4C (sorry, no Fº)
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 5 лет назад
Yea, I need to go see this crazy super north Portugal climate zone myself to believe it. Has anyone had success with Coconuts anywhere in Portugal???
@Valterxicao
@Valterxicao 5 лет назад
@@ScaryHairyGary COCONUTS fruits in MADEIRA ISLAND
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 5 лет назад
@@Valterxicao I need to see that too.
@toddanderson7484
@toddanderson7484 4 года назад
Do you know the variety of mango you have? I am a plant breeding student and eventually want to return to California and try to develop tropical fruit for northern climates. Portugal sounds like it may be a good place to collect seed.
@Atimatimukti
@Atimatimukti 4 года назад
@@toddanderson7484 Osteen, Kent, Keitt, Tomy Atkins, Kensington Pride, Irwin, Palmer and Sensation. The more dificult from this group is Kensigton Pride from Australia because it very prone to anthracnose (we have a lot of rain in the northwest of Portugal)- Kent is also very susceptible to hunid conditions
@daleandrews3552
@daleandrews3552 3 года назад
I'm convinced that most of CA(especially coastal) is capable of growing the most tender of vegetation. Even coastal areas as far north as San Francisco. Am I wrong? I'm just going by the palm trees that I've seen growing there and using them as a barometer.
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 3 года назад
The Bay Area has the second most complex micro climate in the entire World next to the tip of South Africa where there is similar geography but with a tropical ocean on one side and a cold ocean on the other playing tug-of-war with each other. And what you are saying is true although generally the closer to the coast you are the more frost free it is but the more cool the climate becomes. As you move inland, temperatures increase but so do freezing night time temps. There are microclimates inland that buck the trend and are warmer and also frost free for various reasons but generally as you leave the coast the heat increases but the vulnerability to freezing temperatures also does. So it all depends on what you are trying to plant and knowing exactly what you can get away with any given micro climate within the Northern California microclimate.
@mauriciodiaz1310
@mauriciodiaz1310 Год назад
Modesto california has mangos n so does central valley ca
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary Год назад
and soon, they will be everywhere
@jcm5343
@jcm5343 5 лет назад
Wow! Thanks for sharing Gary! I live in Castro Valley. Do you think Carrie Mango will work?
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 5 лет назад
As long as you give it a hot spot with tons of sunlight where it will not freeze hard it should do it.
@jcm5343
@jcm5343 5 лет назад
Got it. Thanks! I hope some of our local nursery will carry a Carrie Mango.
@jasonhayward7231
@jasonhayward7231 3 года назад
I wonder if it will work in Redding Callifornia, way more north but much hotter. More sunny days than almost any state .
@karinahuerta5777
@karinahuerta5777 2 года назад
My mom has a mango tree in Colton California
@durrainbarrett538
@durrainbarrett538 4 года назад
Hello, I am your neighbor in Antioch, California. Are you growing any other tropical fruits like guavas, lychees etc.? Could you please recommend a mango variety that would grow well in zone 9b? Thanks!
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 3 года назад
Check his nursery in Richmond, I believe he has a new variety that is most cold hardy yet. (Golden Gate Palms Nursery)
@cococombsc.8331
@cococombsc.8331 5 лет назад
In I'm Pittsburg and I'm trying to grow a Mango tree from a seed so I will see 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
@510jesus
@510jesus 4 года назад
Hows the seed going?
@fallingfallfally
@fallingfallfally 4 года назад
I was going to like this video until i realized this wasnt your property or tree to be proud of.
@fastfishwater9787
@fastfishwater9787 4 года назад
Definitive Definitely That makes no sense, he’s literally just trying to showcase what can be grown in a warm northern microclimate
@juniorrocha161
@juniorrocha161 2 года назад
I live in Pittsburg
@offmyshit
@offmyshit 5 лет назад
You said you were going to knock on their door. I wanna know their secret, too!
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 5 лет назад
Their secret is they are from India, grew up with mangos, and just planted a small plant just like you or I would plant an Apple tree. That simple. They thought nothing of it.
@ThePurpleFlower
@ThePurpleFlower 3 года назад
@@ScaryHairyGary That's all?? I'm Indian too and grew up with Mangos all around. Now I'm in San Jose. I will go inform all my sprouting seeds that I am from India, they must grow for me. :-D
@David-zv2em
@David-zv2em 3 года назад
@@ThePurpleFlower I will tell my tree I am a white guy from India.
@ThePurpleFlower
@ThePurpleFlower 3 года назад
@@David-zv2em hahahaha!! Yes, please do. It seems to be working. I told all my seeds, and they are all growing beautifully.
@Grando7260
@Grando7260 2 года назад
I wanna grow one in Vallejo
@Charliiie415
@Charliiie415 4 года назад
I have a tree here in SF but it has never grown fruit.
@gloriadeguzman5144
@gloriadeguzman5144 4 года назад
Ever try adding fertilizer.
@Charliiie415
@Charliiie415 4 года назад
Gloria De Guzman yes, I live near the beach and it’s always around 50-56 out
@lynvicente514
@lynvicente514 4 года назад
I’m in Vallejo, if you happen to have to prune it, could I get an air graft?
@getnhyphy
@getnhyphy 4 года назад
Regan Nursery in Fremont sells Manilla trees
@ChitoWorld
@ChitoWorld 3 года назад
I’m in Oakland . I just ordered a Glenn mango .thinking if I should pot it or plant it in the ground
@KingfisherTalkingPictures
@KingfisherTalkingPictures 3 года назад
I’m in Oakland as well. I’d love to hear how it goes.
@josheichorn980
@josheichorn980 2 года назад
I’m in Oakland, too, in the banana belt (by Mills College). My main concern with putting it in the ground is all the clay we have here. Bad for the roots. But if you prep your soil enough, it shouldn’t be too bad.
@donspahn1409
@donspahn1409 4 года назад
Hey brother I live right around the corner I got to growing right now good to know. 😊👍
@Realdavidart
@Realdavidart 3 года назад
Around the corner from the tree in the video?
@bigmack2262
@bigmack2262 3 года назад
Would a mango grow in Santa Cruz Ca?
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 3 года назад
I would think so especially if it is a hot, sunny and reflected spot.
@subtotechnoblade2692
@subtotechnoblade2692 4 года назад
i bet there are people in canada growing them in greenhouses
@ScaryHairyGary
@ScaryHairyGary 4 года назад
That doesn't count, like a little guy using a trampoline to dunk. Disqualified!
@Realdavidart
@Realdavidart 3 года назад
It's a Caraboa Mango tree that is native to the Philippines.
@aleem076
@aleem076 3 года назад
Really? That's the sweetest mango in the World
@Realdavidart
@Realdavidart 3 года назад
@@aleem076 that's what they say. Very popular in the Asian markets in my area.
@aleem076
@aleem076 3 года назад
@@Realdavidart Can I grow it in Sacramento Area?
@Realdavidart
@Realdavidart 3 года назад
@@aleem076 you should be able to. Same sunset zone
@aleem076
@aleem076 3 года назад
@@Realdavidart Thank you so much
@salinawhite7669
@salinawhite7669 4 года назад
Can YOU SELL SOME mangoes FOR me brother
@kenroll7578
@kenroll7578 5 лет назад
I used Potassium, Phosphorus and minor elements to my tropical fruit and it seemed to work. My Tropical Obsession posted on: southerspirit4life (Tropical Fruit Tree Experiment) I think that’s you may be on to something. I researched it and found this information 3.3. Potassium and Low-Temperature Stress Cold stress inhibits plant growth and development, which results in limited crop productivity. It affects plants by directly inhibiting metabolic reactions and indirectly influencing cold-induced osmotic, oxidative and other stresses. The effect of increasing K+ applications on yield and cold tolerance studied by Devi et al.[92] in Panax ginseng showed that a high K+ concentration activated the plant’s antioxidant system and increased levels of ginsenoside-related secondary metabolite transcripts, which are associated with cold tolerance. Cold stress may destroy photosynthetic processes and reduce the effectiveness of antioxidant enzymes, resulting in ROS accumulation [66,93,94]. K improved plant survival under cold stress by increasing antioxidant levels and reducing ROS production [7,92]. Greater frost damage in K-deficient plants is related to water deficiency from the chilling-induced inhibition of water uptake and freezing-induced cellular dehydration [95]. A significant negative correlation was found between frost damage and leaf K concentration, and an adequate K supply can effectively increase frost resistance [6,8]. Bogdevitch [96] found that oats that were supplied with sufficient K could survive late frost without obvious damage, whereas much of the crop that was grown on K-deficient soil did not survive. This finding could be attributed to a regulation of osmotic and water potential and a reduction of electrolyte leakage caused by cold stress [8,97]. High concentrations of K+ protected against freezing by lowering the freezing point of the plant’s cell solution. Furthermore, an adapted cytosol K+concentration is also essential for enzyme activities that are involved in regulating frost resistance [8]. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3645691
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