There is no such thing as having too many children. I know a Roman Catholic family in North Kerry with twelve children. All loved, cared for and reared well. Nothing wrong with it.
@Laurence O'Connor no, that's a family that elected never to bring the demon of contraception into their married life and welcomed the twelve glorious offspring that God rewarded them with. And now the father whose wife recently passed has an entire network of children and grandchildren to rely on and that is a serious advantage to a fella in his old age. Of that you can be almightily sure.
@@RobertK1993 Irrelevant .. as Harold Wilson made clear to the Protestants Of NI .. stop spongin off Britain.. if you are in Britain ALL have civil rights.. end of storey
So utterly frustrating that the unionist mentality often steers them to obsess over what they perceive to be the culture and private lives of 'Catholics' ...and their assumption that everyone who wants a completely free Ireland is a 'Catholic'. It would be funny if not so tragic when you see people - who are quite possibly not particularly religious themselves - fixate so much on what they perceive to be religion and every word that comes out of their mouth is influenced by it.
Fast-forward to 2023 Unionist domination is over and despite decades of discrimination Catholics are now the largest single group in Northern Ireland with more elected political representatives in government than any other group.
@@LurganGoon91 Aye okay ..Let's never have a Roman Catholic about the place@ Basil Brooke ...we are the papal😂😂...Sinn Fein rule the roost ye planters🤗🤗🤗
Ahh the poor Catholics, my grandparents and there parents before them were equally poor as any Catholic, and Protestants remember how they were treated in the south, no equality then just murder and discrimination. The new Irish will be your problem not Protestants the globalist EU will make sure of it. #irelandisfull
@Janet Carr Wharton They probably continued to believe that it’s they who were discriminated against , fell for the DUP lies , and save up to buy flowers for the queen of England and then wonder why they are poor .
Looking back, their concerns about the Catholic Church were completely valid. I'm from the Republic, and I am delighted that the church is losing power every day - religion and state should be separate. Most young people in the ROI and NI don't give a shit about religion anymore thankfully. I wonder how that will impact future relations between the two states.
Annoys me when people say so often that the conflict in Northern Ireland had nothing to do with religion. If everyone had been Catholic or Protestant or Buddhist would they still have been kicking the bejesus out of each other? Somehow I think not! Conflict arises from difference. Religious difference equals cultural difference and can run deep as it cuts into people's own insecurities about their inherited beliefs. To belong to a religious creed is an act of violence against mankind and leads to violence. As Krishnamurti said; "Truth is a pathless land". An Ireland of ex-Prots and ex-Catholics can be a land of peace and unity and, like you, I'm glad it's heading that way.
Yes, I can actually understand why NI protestants were very nervous of a united Ireland in the days when the ROI was a Catholic bastion, effectively controlled by priests. But, thankfully those days are gone. Ireland is a much more inclusive country now, and a united Ireland is the sensible course, when everyone is ready for a peaceful transition ☮️
@@peacehope7365 They themselves where under Orange Order Presbyterian rule no different fool hate dul anti Roman Catholic bile LED by Ian Paisley mouthpiece.
@@peacehope7365 They themselves where under Orange Order Presbyterian rule no different fool hate dul anti Roman Catholic bile led by Ian Paisley mouthpiece.
My father was an Atheist for 20 years before he went back to the Catholic Church. One of the things he taught me was that no matter what, people believe their own bullshit. Everyone will find some other excuse to hate and then kill one another, even with religion out of it (if not especially). Communist Atheists and Fascist Atheists (like many N*zis) killed millions of people over ideology, class or ethnicity. The Northern Ireland Conflict had religion as one facet. It went beyond that, Unionists just used the old, contrived BS fear mongering of what happens when Catholics gain power. When Kennedy was elected in the US, Protestants (and Atheists) said the Pope would rule the US. That did not happen. You may champion religions like the Catholic and Protestant churches losing power, but Nietzsche’s warning about the Death of God. Religion, for all it faults, still was able to hold people back from their worst excesses. Because people in the 1890s were less religious, he warned the 20th century would be the bloodiest century, and with figures like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. Along with both World Wars, I think it’s to fair say he was not wrong. Religion is merely another excuse, and even a lazy criticism that has been used to start anti-Christian, anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim campaigns such as in the USSR, for why people cannot get along. Ethnic, cultural, linguistic, political and social distinctions will still be there, as they are in Northern Ireland.
The angry young fella on the left could easily be a southerner, physically speaking. Looks like a Clare hurler. The paranoia in these people really is something else.
He once made a comment to the effect that it was frightfully difficult to explain to Unionists that Catholics having a fairer chance of a good living would prevent them having “fifteen children on state assistance.” So he was a bigot, just a bit more enlightened than the types who eventually brought him down.
"There's hundreds of us can't get houses too" . Compared to the 10s of thousands of catholics that couldn't get a house because of the bitter protestants landlords and the corrupt housing even to today .. falls road 2 bed house roughly 600 a month 100ft across the road on the Shankill the same house go for 300 a month ..
Your talking nonsense. Most of the private housing on the Falls and Shankill rds are owned by Dublin property developers. Are you honestly saying that the Dubliners are favoring Shankill protestants over their Falls rd Catholic counterparts 😂
@@punkrocker6431 I think hes talking about todays housing market. Very few people owned thier own house on the falls and shankill rds in the 1960s and im sure that Dublin property developers wernt in the Belfast housing market back then either. Investors from the irish republic and further a field didnt start buying in N. Ireland until the Good Friday Agreement.
@@RobertK1993 What the hell are Presbyterians afraid of??? The United Irishmen of 1798 were all about Catholic Protestant and Dissenter and the British used the old Divide and Rule tactic for their very own monetary benefit do defeat these noble aims. The Irish Flag represents all of the people of the 32 Counties traditions so come join us folks....UNITED 32 FOR ALL.
Fascinating to hear their concerns about the influence of the Catholic church when 50 odd years later the republic would legalise gay marriage and abortion well before Northern Ireland. It's the loyalists in the north who were and still are the main opponents to such progressive policies. And of course, they're a minority now but still disrupting political progress for the majority of people in NI.
The Reverend Ian Paisley A Godly man, a man of peace, a cultured man, a gentle man, a quiet, thoughtful man, a man of reason, a man who listened to both sides of an argument and applied common sense, an empathetic man, an unbiased man, a man who believed in religious freedom for all, a man who believed in equality for all, a man who preached the true words of God ………… love thy neighbour, turn the other cheek, etc etc. Whoops, sorry, thinking of a different man, in a different country, under tyrannical British rule, yet he really was a man of peace, love and harmony……….. Mahatma Gandhi ❤❤❤❤
Mahatma Gandhi... did not think the Briitish were Tyrannical ... and he said so .. He said he would use the better part of the British & British peope to shame the establishment to free India without violence That would not have worked with most empires in history ... ie Hitler / Stain etc
I am always amused by Unionists in Ireland. They were immigrants to Ireland, and the Irish Culture must change?? No other People in the World would tolerate this. The British Government were responsible for all this fiasco, the immigrants were told they were more special, and merely took advantage.
Everyone in Ireland is of immigrant stock from 9th and 10 centuries. Many are from the Vikings that established trade networks out of Dublin. Even the Normans are Vikings.
India has something like 200 different cultures and religions and all get on fine in majority.. Ireland has two and can't agree on anything lol...from the north myself
The KEY issue in NI was always Civli Rights.. and ironically British public opinion & the Govt was on the Catholics side right until the IRA started dropping squaddies..Though pompous incompetent British handling of it all ... let everyone, particular the Soldiers down as well .... NI protestant attitudes & bigotry had been unknown in the mainland for 150 years ( except Glasgow )
@@studslannigan6286 You dont know your history.. British army in 68 didnt drop any IRA in fact it is now acknowledged by both of them that they worked together to end the Bogside war & remove the local police / UVF from the picture .. Cant change facts.. sure it turned out badly .. but they were caught between the ProdS & the Catholics.. Once ( some elements) of the IRA attacked them directly as part of thier agencde Rather than doing what they should have been doing to protect their community NEVER forget that then PM Harold Wilson stated POWER SHARING .. with the Sunning dale agreement Which only a full blown Orangeman UVF / UDA insurrection managed to destroy
@@foraustralia2558 Well the old Rangers spent decades cheating and robbing Scottish football and they paid that price ...deservedly so ...KARMA 1872-2012🤗
Northern Irish Unionists have lived in Ireland all their life. They just live in that part of Ireland which remained in the United Kingdom after 1922. The title of this footage is entirely erroneous and misleading.
@@jay70328 No, they live in that part of Ireland which remained in the United Kingdom after 1922, just like I said. I.e. They both live in Ireland and the United Kingdom simultaneously, is that not what living in the Six Counties of Northern Ireland amounts to?
@@padruigmacrodain that's like saying living in Strasbourg means you live in Germany, or living in California means you live in Mexico. Northern Ireland is in the UK, and *on* the island of Ireland. But they (we) do not live *in* Ireland. The land is not a part of the country of Ireland, at least not for now.
@@jay70328 Actually, you do live in Ireland, what you call the island of Ireland, I call Ireland, what you call Ireland, I call the Irish Republic. The Irish Republic has no moral right, nor ever has had any moral right, nor ever will have any moral right to hijack the age-old name of our island home and simply appropriate it for itself. You can use the term " island of Ireland " all you like, personally I consider it dumb, stupid, even nauseating, ( and of course, it is very much of recent origin, I grew up in the South in the 1980s ( born, for the record, in '77 ) and that term was practically never used, it only caught on in the late 90's/ Noughties ) so to re-cap, Northern Ireland is simply that part of Ireland which remained in the United Kingdom after 1922 and the country which is now the Republic of Ireland is simply that part of Ireland which did not. Northern Unionists will always be Irish Unionists whether they like it or not, they are simply those Irish Unionists who won out as opposed to those former Irish Unionists and their descendants, south of the present border, who did not.
@@padruigmacrodain I remember once when I was around 8 years old, my brother and I were playing Lego. I had a police station and he had a fire station. We were setting up our Lego town, and he said "the flags go this way because the wind is blowing this direction". I proceeded to point my flags a different direction and said "my wind is blowing this way". We still laugh about it too this day. That is basically your whole argument, that YOU find it nauseating, and YOU find it dumb etc. No one cares what YOU think. The facts are the facts, and NI is NOT a part of Ireland.
They are just sh*tting themselves in fear of being as badly treated as they did to us Northern Fenians in the occupied six counties! Tá ár lá tagtha mo chairde!🇮🇪🇮🇪💚💚💚
"Northern Irish unionist", what other sort of Northern Irish person is there? Nationalist don't call ourselves Northern Irish. In fact if I ever be asked the question in a form I would tick British before I would ever call myself Northern Irish. It's a disgusting term to have attached to you.
What the hell are you saying. You lot are oddballs. A man has a welsh accent then people refer to him as the welsh guy he doesn’t snap back ‘I’M BRITISH!’ Ask a Scot he’ll say he’s Scottish only you fools in NI shouting I’m British! Whining about it. You’re Irish man get over it
J Mc I'm Irish and I actually do agree with you that Unionists should only be classed as being British because if they suddenly come out classing themselves as being "Northern Irish" which is connecting themselves with the Irish identity after spending hundreds of years not associating themselves with anything to do with the word Irish then it's a bit worrying for Unionism / Loyalism.
In the beginning Britain had to fight the celts off many times ; seems like you kinda have to go way back to understand the history fully; I like the celts and Irish better ; but sometimes I like Brittain for instance they abolished slavery a lot earlier than America so in some ways they do ok I don’t really know seems like a wretched hive of lizards to me but I guess I don’t really know I just know I like the tv shows they do lol