Northernlion on the Child Free Pub Discourse 

Babies be like "I have a mouth and I will scream" Amirite parents? +2 to the left.

You give the water drowning the hamster to the fish, easy as

Speaking of guinea pigs, my wife's family had 2 when she was a child and one grew a huge cancer tumor. The other one ate it off which ended up killing the one who ate it. Then the one that had cancer lived for 2 more years

Tomo, my sweet prince, I’d burn the world down to warm your paw- oh hi Ryuka

2:08 I know exactly what he’s getting at when he says “I wish I had an hour to play balatro” but it is extremely funny that he chose that as the example of a thing he doesn’t have time to do

“It’s like not that hard to be 28” 10:34 why’d he say fuck me for?

"These hypotheticals never happen though" the mythical type AA chatter appears

“We need to criminalize unauthorized use of the word yet” 2:23 It’s quips like this that elevate NLs content for me. It’s comedic, relatable, and a sassy comeback right off the dome. I’m only a bit into the vid, but his friend is right, he is doing a noble thing, setting the bar for witty banter.

I was "Kids shouldn't be in pubs anyway" pilled but then I remembered i spent like the first 5 years of my life in a sports bar eating pizza and playing arcade games

4:08 my cousins tell me they go to school and talk about the new MrBeast video when it drops so I have hope the echo effect lives on

Straight son or flush daughter is funny af

The drowning children of this city look up and shout 'SAVE US' I'll look down and whisper 'But he's my little boy'

NL doesn't have conversations, he has discourses

The “child-free debate club” could be applied to quite a few groups, actually. I work in environmental lobbying and there is a big overlap between hardcore environmentalism and anti-natalism, and I feel that many of our conversations turn into circular debates where we talk about a problem, then give a solution that we all know is incredibly unlikely or unpopular, and then all say “So True!” To eachother. I consider it a coping mechanism; it’s hard to come up with solutions that work and are popular, so we talk about crazy shit and pretend we are enlightened for thinking it. I’m certain other groups go through the same problems.

"everybody hates their coworkers now" not true, I work from home so i barely know them at all, checkmate chatter

How is Enelle so insightful and yet can GayPorn Rap like Eminem (when he was good)

the weekly eps do help draw out the narrative beats into more digestible arcs, and you have time to fully reckon with the subtler aspects of the story

“We used to all watch the same show and talk about it in the office the next day” - NL who only watches a movie/show every decade

It’s not your fault

"Reddit is larping" so, half of Twitter is larping, and the other half is people saying "I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK THIS" it's why any time someone says there's drama and the first example is from Twitter i tune out

I'm sure I've missed stuff in the intervening years, but I feel like those first few seasons of GoT is the last time we had something actually stay in the conversation over an extended period. As a TV show, I mean. Like what he's talking about with the 90s sitcoms.

Everybody on the antinatalist subreddit wants to be Schopenhauer so bad

the librarian, more like crybrarian 😢

I had a guinea pig as a kid, and when it died, I was legit devastated, and never had a pet since. I guess I get too attached to the little fellas

4:22 the chatters "here we go" when he starts talking about everybody loves raymond sent me

Omfg him talking about the Guinea pigs has me crying because it's so true lmfao

man, he's been KILLING it recently, this banter has been NUTS

Everybody used to love Raymond. Now everyone hates everyone…

From Ireland, I was in the pub when young, mainly for my parents to watch hurling, rugby or soccer while having a pint, however I am aware we have a different culture around drinking establishments. I also remember there being a curfew for kids, like past 9 u couldn’t have kids at the pub my family went to for matches. Nothing better than a cidona and a pack of bacon fries watching a match tho.

I think NL has a really potent point on no longer getting to be apart of that culture as a show releases. Like you're not gonna get the same community with the binge model, there just isn't excitement outside of what happens next season where you get to binge it again. I may also be salty because if it wasn't released for binging, I wouldn't have been spoiled things towards the end of the fallout show.

Former Liquor Control Board of Ontario employee, teens are allowed inside the LCBO with their parents. They're allowed to push the cart, carry a basket, and unload the basket/cart at the point of sale and help package it up. However, As soon as they point out alcohol their parents buy or touch the product, then they get ID'd by law that we are legally bound (by oath of office and allegiance to the King, mind you) to do. Ho leeeeeee do the parents have no chill about it, way worse than the kids.

The idea that kids need to be sheltered from alcohol is so bizarre. Kids already know all about vomiting and falling over.

I feel like I would save most other kids over my dog, but some just have bad vibes.

the caveman at the end did not realize the other tribe members he thought present were merely shadows cast on the wall and that he was grunting directly at only one caveman

I've never found babies cute, but I also never developed a whole ass complex about it. Just keep that shit to yourself and be slightly annoyed about it on your own time, like a regular human being lol

Hey librarian, maybe you already have it in the archives but a compilation of NL going off about people unwilling to answer hypotheticals would go crazy for me personally. Keep up the good work

If anyone cares, the Fallout show is very good. Even if I'd never heard of or played Fallout I still would have enjoyed it a great deal.

I've had two guinea pigs that died in pretty normal circumstances, the first died overnight and the second died from old age, it was pretty sad I held him when he was slowly passing away

My guinea pig died out of nowhere when I was in 5th grade and I was deviated. He had some crystals in his ween and we took him to the emergency vet and they called the next day to say he was over the yellow brick wall or whatever

NL's friend experiencing the worry of being a man emotionally consoling another man

I'm 28 and as soon as he read the "it's hard to be any age" comment I thought "honestly it's not that hard being 28" and actually laughed out loud when he said the exact same thing a second later. Good to know this is as good as it gets.

My cousins had three hamsters, all three got lost in their vents and only one ever came out. I can only imagine what they had to do to survive in there…

17:33 This is why he's the GOAT

I think you're right on track for today's expectations

fun fact, plato's allegory of the cave is actually how our brains work the part of your brain that makes up your conscious mind has no access to any of your sensory information. your senses get fed into a part of your brain that is (outside of really hard drug trips) completely separated from your mind, and it generates a simulation of what it thinks the world is like using a combination of past experiences, expectations and biases. and then that simulated external world, your consciousness fakes looking into with senses that it doesn't actually have, that are so far removed from what your actual sensory organs feed you that the raw input of your senses would be useless to you for example; if you hold out your pinky as far as you can from yourself, your actual eyes can only see color in an area smaller than your nail. and yet you see color everywhere all at once; because your fake simulated eyes that your mind is using to peer at the fake simulated world that it looks at doesn't work the same way as your real eyes. if the wall around your computer screen changed color every time you look at your screen and then change back when you look away you'd never notice because your real eyes don't see color outside of what they're focusing on and your mind is just guessing what color the wall is based on what color it was the last time you got good info on it the take-away being that you probably should take your own experiences with the grain of salt you'd put into anybody's experiences who you happen to know is constantly hallucinating, because that's what you are; hallucinating, constantly. if you thought that the light was green when you last looked at it, maybe give it another glance before you go. same goes for, like, giving other people the benefit of the doubt when they say they told you something, or not putting too much stock into unexplained noises or sensations

Holy fuck the Guinea pig bit had me fucking dying, gasping for breath

That first story was so fucking funny omg

Remember the first time I went to the bar, my friends told me not to curse because there were kids nearby. I was so confused. Guess thats last born problems

The story that starts this video is both heartwarming and a little bit painful, I wouldn’t know whether to clarify it or not.

Reminds me of the finale of a little book called Fabian - The story of a Moralist where the book literally ends because he tried to save a drowning child, couldn't swim, and just drowned himself

he's so funny man how does he do it

You're not wrong. Streaming has killed the cliffhanger. I miss well done trailers too. Fallout was definitely a cut above though

the tweet that i saw quoting the og was someone saying "why are we banning mothers aka WOMEN from facilities now??" 💀

Bro librarian belss u for pulling up the twitter reciepts to prove his points, makes it so much easier to follow for someone whos out of touch like myself lol

My fucking god, it's the people.

Hello to the gamers, welcome

i never truly understood the allegory of the cave until nl explained it in 1 sentence while yapping about the antinatalism subreddit, crazy

I come here to feel sane

A lady wanted to card me once when I was like 17 and my dad was buying beer with me present. My old mad was pretty pissed that she even asked.

Luna is genuinely so self aware holy fuck. I wish my kid was at that point where he KNEW he was being a pain in the ass lol

Hello to the Librarians

Hey NL, I've been through the (what age do they do something weird in the LCBO) They just don't allow the under age person to touch the booze, or even put it on the checkout counter even if just trying to help your parent.

what about a binge model where they put the first 7 episodes out of a show at once then put the finale out in like a month?

Twitter recently forced their domain to show up as x and it caused my script blocker to reject it, happiest I've ever been.

5:35 Real life Voight-Kampff test, good to know twitter failed it

I asked a guy to not bring his daughter into the vape shop I worked at, and he freaked out at me

it would be nice to have an hour to play balatro every so often outside of my 5 hours of balatro on stream everyday lol

He mentioned r/antinatalist but, given the theme of the rant, he has to talk about r/dogfree now

I work in manufacturing, and things have been crazy ever since covid. The company is desperate to hire people so we end up with a bunch of lunatics. I still have a couple coworkers that I like, but most of them I try to stay far away from.

0:19 northernlion shoots smack? 🤨

Doing WHAT in the group chat??

when he pinched his nose and said something, nl sounded so different i thought librarian had started overdubbing his own interjections and commentary

BRING BACK 1 EPISODE A WEEK

I think the your pet vs someones kid question is actually kind of interesting because while a human life should mean more than a pets, the sense of responsibility that would drive someone to save their pet over a strangers child makes some sense

'The son and the daughter... And the holy ghost'

If you leave your baby outside the building they should take your baby and the weed. Baby inside the dispensary is totally fine. Catch my ass walking into auto zone with a 5 year old and someone starts yelling Sir, SIR. You can't bring them into the car part store, they can't drive

3:35 I definitely agree with this sentiment, I mean yeah it save up my money for monthly subscriptions, but I don't like that they drowning you in one go, it's like rotting your brain with too much content.

gamers

took my toddler to the dispensary the employees hotboxed his Damn stroller....... baby was chill asf Though

I don't have a pet and I can't swim. But I'd much rather meet a dog at a bar than a child...

NL after giving birth to the holy ghost (he meant to have a son first)

as a child of alcoholics I'm grateful my parents didn't take me out to a pub lol. It's embarrassing enough seeing them drunk at home

I'm a parent and why not, makes serving alcohol easier too

I thought the dog-friendly child-free place was just trying to not get a lawsuit for a dog mauling a child. So they picked one thing to be okay and not the other.

*Niche Internet Microcelebrity I've never heard of talks about the public discourse of being child free* Four minutes in: Yeah, so about the Fallout TV show...

Northernlion loves monoculture

My gerbils died when I was little and we held a burial and funeral in the back garden, buried together in a small cardboard box. By the end we were all laughing.

I'm with NL, I enjoy the weekly release schedule, like Shogun. It lets you simmer in the boiling pot of British sailor oil.

Are canadian bars not child free by default? I remember when my mom used to work as a musician at a bar when I was like 12 and had the police called on her just because I walked through the front into the back room.

I do t know about the Reddit but any actual academic debate on antinatalism is inherently rhetorical and and acknowledged by the authors as inherently unfulfillable. Like I don’t think I’ve read a single piece of writing on it that wasn’t just a work of philosophical extrapolation that the authors acknowledges will never be a reality, like most of the arguements derive from extrapolating on the concept of human suffering to the extreme. The crux being is human suffering in itself valuable, I.e is it better to live and suffer than to never live but never suffer. I don’t think any academics really view it as a real life issue, or even anything to do with children at all. Natalism just referring to the act of birth, the subreddit just sounds like people that hate children not actually anything to do with the philosophy of suffering.

hey northern L did you watch the fallout series yet?

Do American supermarkets not sell liquor, or do Americans just not take their kids to the supermarket either, just in case they see some booze on the shelf?

14:00 most of them do smoke in there, and some of them leave pot OPEN . Depends, really.

wait.... he's based?

It's definitely morally wrong to have a kid

I can see why nothernlion think that regarding r/antinatalism but I disagree. The thing is antinatalism doesn't have a single core argument and nor there is a single core argument against it. Every antinatalist has a different take. That's why the wiki is written in multiple different perspective. This might be why you would antintalist if you are conservative, christian, buddhist, left wing etc etc.

dont assuming stuff bout me with yet

who invited redditors into the comment section? WHERE ARE THEY?

You don't understand, I still wouldn't save the stranger's child if my pet was safe and sound

Other people don't want to hear someone else's children screaming all the time near them. Hell, I bet parents that happen to have a free evening don't want to be near other people's screaming children. As long as there are some places that allow children and others that don't, I think all is fine.