Norwegian M1914 Kongsberg Colt 

Richard Byrne, AWESOME ! I can say, By doing this your Uncle's life was to be very short if caught. The rare pistol, is a prize to be valued for man who loved his Land and family. I do not think I could put a price on that.

@@knutdergroe9757 His families life would be pretty short if caught do, maybe not the best way to show love of family.

Your uncle-in-law was a patriot and hero. Be sure to do all you can to keep his story alive.

@@Lowlandlord Wrong. The occupying Nazis were douchebags, but they didnt kill entire families here just because one member was caught doing resistance work.

gjolb you underestimate “collective punishment”

Ironically they switched for the same reason the USA did. A *big* bank robbery when down and they started thinking "You know maybe we should have guns that fire a few more rounds than six?"

+MARISEX123 I was norwegian 1100 years ago

@@VicariousReality7 I'm still Norwegian 1100 years later lol. The first documented instance of my family's name is about 1100 AD, in church books, but we recon the farmstead has been there since at least the iron age.

1100 years?​@@VicariousReality7

Interesting

+SMGJohn "Norway" didn't participate in the holocaust of Jews. The Nazi puppet state that existed in Norway from 1940-45, participated in the holocaust of Jews. There is a big difference.

+SMGJohn we did things like sabotage Vemork where they made heavy water my great-grandfather drove refugees from Norway to Sweden in a bus at night we did not participated in holocaust of Jews

me 2

the Norwegian police happily helped the Germans rounding up the Norwegian jews. And thousands of Norwegian men joined the SS and fought on the eastern front.

Normally all I associate with Norway is that you still kill whales like it's 1870. Great to see you have some cultural elements which progressed as far as 1914.

fuck sweden

Well, the USA adopted the Krag Jørgenson rifles from Norway, and fucked it up. The Norwegian adopted the M1911 from USA... Or Belgium, and inproved it!

@Dr BoomYes, Norway definitely got tossed around a bit between Denmark and Sweden after the Viking era

@@gunnarkvinlaug7226 Affectionately known in the USA as The Crægg xD Meanwhile most Norwegians use the british Ah sound and call it the Khraaahgh Yurgensen.

@@kebman No, we would say Jørgensen, we're not germans so why should we use the germans u with two dots over- sound?

Feil. Den første , Serienummer 1. M1912 (de 95 første var M1912 ikke M1914) ble nettopp solgt i USA for 22000$ og S.nr. 2 ble stjålet fra et museum i 1978.

@@Ben742011 Nice. Ganske interessant

Handguns are usually only issued to officers and sergeants during peace time. You know... For office use lol! Otherwise its use is usually mission spesific.

@@kebman pictures of my grandfather showed him as NCO with pistol holster, so yeah that's what he carried.

@@STB-jh7od Nice! Alt for Kongen!

Red Guard Wait- NATO uses missiles against penguins?!?! ; )

Ikkje eigentleg, 10 treningar i løpet av eit halvt år klarar vell dei fleste

+trued_2 Seems fine to me. What is weird about it?

+trued_2 I think something is different too. I thought the previous video was a bit off too. It seems to be a little lower quality, and in this particular video it's louder on the right side than the left.

+Forgotten Weapons The audio quality seems to have tanked in all your recent RIA videos. It's as if there is an aggressive noise filter on the mic. This one is also mute on the left.

+Forgotten Weapons There is a noticeable difference between this audio and the one for "Should Guns be in Museums or Private Collections?", even though they are recorded in the same place.

+Forgotten Weapons To me, it sounds hollow, somewhat distant if you would. Almost distorted. I am reasonably sure that it is the effect that the pop filter has on the audio recording. I understand that the pop filter is necessary in order to remove the intrusive "Bumps" "Bangs" and "Clangs" we hear from the mic hitting against your shirt. But perhaps it might be reasonable to look into a Boom Microphone and mount it on the camera. This should allow for you to clearly capture your voice without the need for a pop filter or run the risk of hitting it with your shirt.

KillerSalmon I believe so

It's so it'll also fit in the hand of Norwegian trolls!11

+Martin Stensvehagen they actually used the name kongsberg waffenfabrik when they tried to reach out in Europa. The official name in 1919 was Kongsberg Arsenal and from 1940 to 1945 kongsberg waffenfabrik was the official name of the company, because the germans ordered them to make weapons for the wehrmacht. So on paperwork it will often be in german, that's why alot of foreigners say waffenfabrik (Er 4 generasjon som jobber i kongsberg arsenal ;) )

+Martin Stensvehagen Hehe, jeg merket det samme! Litt sløvt av han, men samtidig forståelig.

+showgunnw Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk have never been refered to as a "Arsenal". It was founded as a weapons factory, to make up for the huge unemployment in Kongsberg following the disolution of union with Denmark, by converting muskets. It have never been a place where firearms were stored, ie. not an arsenal. You seem to mix it with "Hovedarsenalet"(main arsenal) in Christiania, wich also had a small gun factory. "Hovedarsenalet" was housed in the building that today houses the armed forces museum in Oslo, and "Hovedarsenalet" is today based at Hovemoen just north of Lillehammer from "Lillyhammer" fame. If we look at KV trough the years, the spelling on "Fabrikk" and "Våpen" have changed as the Norwegian written language moved way from Danish. But never have the factory been given a germanic name, the waffenamt used numbers and letters for different manufacturers, and did not change any name.

+UGLEIV You are absolutely correct about the name area, my bad. However i'm almost positiv that kongsberg vaapenfabrik had an arsenal inn it's facilities. I currently live in the US(texas) and on the paperwork both of my m1914's kongsberg arsenal is listed as the manufacturer. One from 1919 and one from 1940. That's the reason why I referred to it as kongsberg arsenal, it seems that this is the name most frequently used in the US try to google "m1914 kongsberg arsenal". Even ria.com refers to it as "the Government Arsenal at Kongsberg" in the description www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/57/lid/1512 that being said i believe you are correct.

That would be a translation error, as Kongsberg was the government arms factory. It of course had storage rooms/houses someone could informally dub "Arsenal", but at no time was that sentiment official. In Norwegian documents you can actually track when items were foramlly accepted by various arsenals from KV, some aresenals even made guns theselves from KV-parts. Like the Navy arsenal at "Karljohansværn" manufactured/put together the Royal Norwegian navy's "Jarman rifles", but this practise was abandoned with the advent of smokeless powder and its need for consistency. As Kongsberg is still an entity, you could perhaps google them to have a look on their website. Unfortunatly they were split up after a huge corruption scandal in the late 1980's, they basicly sold computer and CNC technology for the manufacuring of subamrine propellers to the USSR, not a smar move when you are ownd by a NATO government. So today the only remainig government owned part is the arms manufacturing(Protector, JSM etc.), I even think the small arms division have been offloaded. From what I heard quite literally, people living in Kongsberg allegedly found the machinery to manufacture G3's and MP5 just dumped in the river...

+Fenrir I wonder how many of those survive stuffed into Norwegian attics...

+DFX2KX They appear now and then, the coolest things are probably when they are found in the walls. A lot of the freedom fighters also joined a secret operation after the war called Stay Behind. They had secret arsenals all around the country containing among other things sten guns, thompsons, m1 carbines and Kongsberg colts. I will inherit one kongsberg colt made in 1929 who where found in one of those arsenals.

+Arvid Gutjahr Arvid: Union of Kalmar was only during the middle ages (Wiki says 1397 to 1523). Since then, until 1814 it was the Kingdom of Denmark-Norway, a personal union. Denmark lost Norway in 1814 after losing the Napoleonic wars. Rather than split up other parts of the Kingdom of Denmark, Denmark conceded to release Norway, knowing full-well that it would most likely be annexed by Sweden. Interestingly, Greenland, Iceland and the Faeroe Islands actually belonged to the Norwegian crown, but were transferred to Denmark, probably since the British preferred the Atlantic possessions in Danish hands, thinking they would be easier to wrestle from Denmark in the next war. From that perspective, it's pretty easy to understand the fierce Norwegian resistance in WW2: Free for only 35 years after being subjugated 400-500 years, and then the Germans show up! From a Danish perspevtive, 1940 was: "Oh man, here they come again. Everyone, do as we always do - abandon Jutland, rally up in Copenhagen, do whatever they ask and pray the peace terms are not too rash - they'll leave eventually, they always have in the past 1200 years!"

+amazed2341 Denmark never put up a fight, soldiers was even banned from digging trenches. Just look up the Danish losses on 9th of April.

16 men dead is a testament to a complete and utter lack of fightig spirit. The Danish army was the last army in europe to use volley fire with magazine cut-off. The lack of fight was a result of a political decision not to fight, to claim otherwise is just wrong. And as in other peaceful takeovers like the British ocupation of Norway in 1945, accidents created massive casualties. This is what put Denmark and Norway apart in 1940, the Norwegian politicians didnt make a decision. To this day nobody knows if there was or wasnt give an order to mobilze, and if it was given it was per mail days after the invasion.

+Arvid Gutjahr Why would that be seen as a severe blow? Are you just guessing at this? They bought coastal guns and ships from Germany, Madsens from Denmark.

+Erc888 Norway just achieved true independence and sovereignty for the first time in modern history, having been subjugated from 1397 to 1905. They're pretty big on doing their own thing. So much so that they invented a new language with a new grammar to bring the official language closer to what was considered the true Norwegian spoken outside the circles of the ruling Dano-Norwegian elite. That struggle persists to this day. So on that note, the pistol thing with three trials seems not very silly by comparison.

Possibly the Polish vz36 (often called "Radom")? They look a lot similar to a Colt 1911, and apparently a few were taken over from the Wehrmacht in 1945

your story about the armament of the norwegian police, gave me the answer to a question that have puzzled me. Rember Henry Rinnan? the officer commanding the firing squad (I think it was Sønstebye) was armed with just such a Colt 9 mm, with which he shot Henry Rinnan to make sure that he was dead!

Darth Vader Really? From you accent I thought you were from Tromsø! ; )

My step brother found one in a barn and he had to be a good citizen and turned it over to the police. Still haunts me to this day.

Dude, he is just pronouncing Våpen wrong.

Not really. The WW2 production M1914s mostly went straight into armouries and were never issued.

I would imagine the stories would be of spending the whole war riding in the holster of some German soldier on garrison duty in Norway, and nothing else. The Germans typically issued these substitute standard weapons to garrison troops, so they could ensure there were enough of their primary weapons for the troops actually in combat. I don't think there is any way the Germans would have issued a pistol using a non-standard caliber to front line troops, and thereby unnecessarily complicated their logistics. I've never seen any evidence that these 45s made under German occupation ever turned up anywhere else in the ETO.

+Nathan Hogan Nope, not yet.

Lithuania did as well if I'm correct.

+M. Pulverman I really don't see a handgun as the "latest and greatest" military gear. Maybe because I was and and had bigger, better things to play with. But in the era of the gangster, they sure didn't see any fault with being on the edge of personal protection. Good luck with you six shots when the bad guy has 8 and can reload much faster. Google the 1986 FBI Miami shootout.

+RonJohn63 true, that's my point.

Despite the extensive military trials, it still was decades for the civilian federal law enforcement arm to catch up. Seemed ironic.

+RonJohn63 Somebody should remind them of that.

+SPFDRum The FBI had/has their own tests which are kept in secret. Because they don't want that information given out to criminals.

I know right? the blueing matches the handguard so nicely.

+T0mN7 I thought the Ballester-Molina was a locally made stopgap to fill in for the 1911's.

Keith Larsen Yep, my bad. While they look similar, the 1911 was called " Sistema Colt Modelo 1927" (Meaning, Colt system 1927 model) Which ironically was produced for a significantly longer period of time.

+T0mN7 "The Ballester-Molina was designed to offer the Argentine police and military a less-expensive alternative to the Sistema Colt Modelo 1927, which was itself a licensed copy of the Colt M1911A1, built under the supervision of Colt engineers. Production of the Ballester-Molina began in 1938 and ceased in 1953. Ironically, the Sistema Colt 1927 was manufactured until 1966."

+John4566442 The Model 1927 is a Colt 1911. The Ballister-Molina is slightly different and the parts don't necessarily interchange.

also in Spain the Astra makes a copy

+BigBossManBBQ Only the 1945 run had the WA stamps.

+rainmechanic Try Again.

They sold for a lot less than 600 dollars here in Norway in 96, I suspect you could get close to 10 for that price back then. Its not much less than what they go for now.

+Throttle McCrackin That is Rock Island's cunning plan... :)

The double lanyard loops are a bit of a mystery since I had heard from a Dane that Norway never issued lanyards to any of their troops.

If you look at the drawings by Hauge in his book from 1945, wich is the earliest complete account of the german invasion you will see a laynard loop on all pictures of norwegian officers using the Colt.

+HaakonTheViking OHHH it is Kongsberg. It sounds like he wanted to say Königsberg and I was wondering if that suddenly went a couple kilometer north

He did say Königsberg waffenfabrik for a second there, but he also fumbled himself back to Kongsberg. But it's understandable, the names are kind of similar, and våpenfabrikk-waffenfabrik also are kind of similar...

+HaakonTheViking Slapp av.

kjetiloo Slapper helt av, tro meg

+HaakonTheViking kallar ni det verkligen våpen?

+KapteinFruit Can you own handguns in Norway?

+sergeantbigmac Yes.

Audigiant Cool. Id like to visit someday, my grandparents are from Norway.

sergeantbigmac​ Ok. A lot of norwegians emigrated to the US. (I am guessing you live in the US). My grandmother was born in New York. She went back to Norway thoug. :)

Audigiant Yep there are, they settled a lot of the midwest and west coast.... Coincidentally theres a 'Sons of Norway' organization down the street from me lol.

I don't recall if they kept making handguns, but Kongsberg weapons factory itself was and still is (although re-organized under a new brand now) a *very* significant international weapons systems designer and manufacturer. They make several systems used by the US military, including anti-ship missiles, air defense missiles, and they also made the software suite used in american AWACS. And if I remember right they make avionics components for many of the US air-to-air missiles of various types.

To my knowledge they do not. The Norwegian military now use the Glock 17, which is bought from Austria.

+Matthew Bozanich FCP X doesn't have one.

Forgotten Weapons ah well thanks for the reply. i hope it irons itself out

+Joel Coffey I don't have a particular unicorn gun, honestly.

+Forgotten Weapons But we all know that you would love an authentic FG-42.

Forgotten Weapons Boo! OK, then what would be on a list of guns that you’d be interested in examining/shooting?

+RobertoDonatti i don't have any info. but basically any of Browning's designs in Europe were licensed and patented by F.N while in the Americas and the rest of the world they were licensed and patented by Colt. this was a decision by john browning himself to apparently have easy patent management that he would not have to worry about reapplying every few years when the patents ran out. as F.N and Colt would do this for him. another interesting note to add is that the colt pocket 1903? was both licensed and sold by F.N and Colt under each companies name and logo and the famous browning high-power. although only licensed by F.N and not Colt was in turn licensed to many countries for military issue including the nazis after invading france and the rest of western europe

In the 60's Argentina began replacing the Colt and Sistema Colt with the Browing HP. They are being replaced by the Bersa.