I love how in these "real thoughts" talks they just get so distracted and end up mentioning like 20 other movies to make their point and get on so many tangents lol.
This is by no means a negative comment, but part of the reason that Deadpool wasn't really all that hard-R in its violence was because they simply didn't have the budget for it. Deadpool was about as shoestring as it gets for a studio film, since Fox basically only gave the film money after a decade of nagging and pestering by the producers, and even then it was only after the leaked test footage got so popular that it was finally greenlit. Fox only gave them a minimal amount of money, and then slashed the budget again mid-production. It was basically produced with the funding of an indie film, and yeah it kind of shows, but considering the end result I think they did very, very well with what they had.
And to be fair the guy who directed Deadpool, Tim Miller (who did an amazing job BTW) was a visual effects artist or whatever. Like he directed video game commercials and I think he did the visuals for the opening to Girl With A Dragon Tattoo (I think that's the movie but don't quote me on that). So he didn't really have experience with practical effects. The movie was still awesome though
I love Deadpool but I was kinda sad there wasn't enough gore but I figure since it had low budget the couldn't do as much but everything else the jokes the characters and the action even though not as bloody was still awesome I'm sure since Deadpool has made a lot of money and their making Deadpool 2 they'll have a bigger budget and have more blood and gore
Baloney. Tom Savini, Lucio Fulci and others were yielding ultra-gory movies on extremely low budgets back in the 70's and 80's. Good practical gore effects don't cost that much. Also, Deadpool is lower-tier budget for a mainstream Hollywood movie in the 2010s, but even at $58-million, it can hardly be considered a "shoestring" budget.
I think the style works because when you pair it with 2 main actors who are already over-the-top, instead of actors who give a bland performance, it mixes better with their characters and doesn't seem quite as pretentious.
Eric Stevenson when there is a Nostalgia Critic about a movie I like, I get nervous… But, Face/off thankfully in the movie they like… So that means it’s a positive nostalgia critic review for once.
I always put Face/Off in the category of classic 80s action movies like Commando, Rambo, A Better Tomorrow, Cobra, and Tango and Cash. It was so unlike any movie that was going on at the time (late 90s). That was a weird time for movies too, because like Doug and Rob were saying- the late 90s were the fucking dark ages of movies, especially action movies. CGI was still in it's infancy but at least the practical effects were pretty decent. But yeah, Face/Off was a blast from the 80s past during the 90s, and if you're a fan of cliche 80s action movies like the ones I listed, then you most likely love Face/Off.
Face/Off is perfection. Its one of the very few movies that are just entertaining and you want to go along for the ride because the entire vibe of it is THAT infectious :)
A while ago John Woo made the epic movie Red Cliff, based on a famous third century Chinese battle. It's five hours of pure awesome and everyone should see it.
DUDE ya. Face/Off was greatness. Pure 90's gold Cage doing a Travolta impersonation + Travolta doing a Cage impersonation = mind blown Also Windtalkers was the literal worst
This is my favorite movie honestly. Both main actors are known for going batshit insane and they do such a good job of just switching and going nuts! I absolutely love it! My family doesn't, they think i'm nuts, but I absolutely cannot get enough of it. :D
I still love "Face/Off"; the campiness of it was mostly due to Castor being so unhinged following the switch. Archer goes through it on a smaller scale at the prison, but Castor and Pollux relish in it.
Yep; John Woo did that on purpose. The lead agent's name, Sean Archer, is a also a reference to Sagittarius...located on the opposite side of the sky from Gemini.
Face/Off was the first R rated film I saw in theaters. It was awesome!"Ah yes... the eternal battle between good and evil. Saint and sinner, but you're still not having any FUN!!!!!!"
The fingers down the face has been a joke between my husband and I since we started dating never ceases to annoy the piss out of one another and get a laugh,thank you Face Off
For a third time, I liked the whitewashing editorial and I know a lot of others who did too :). And as Malcolm said on twitter, at least it got people talking and hopefully learning.
+Ciaran Smith racism = prejudice + power The word racism is always misused Discrimination and prejudice is NOT exclusive to whites. In America, racism IS. Like it or not, that's how it is. Has a white person ever been denied anything or oppressed simply for being white? Exactly. No one is saying white people don't have problems or issues. Just stating facts about America.
I like how they crack up over Rob confusing John Woo with Ang Lee, only for Doug at 22:27 to call Margaret Cho "Amy Chow" and neither of them catch it.
Hard to face off as the best action movie of the 90s and made John Woo relevant in the US. The crazyness of Travolta and Cage playing each other is is amazingly awesome. I saw this at 12 at a sleepover with a bunch of friends and we were all in awe of this movie
Well Doug did call Michael Fassbender "That Guy" throughout the entire X-Men: Apocalypse review so I'm definitely willing to forgive Rob.......this time.
thing is Deadpool was made on a meager ass budget of 58 million, like it did not have the budget most superhero movies have so it cut a LOT of corners, and yet it managed to make 783.3 mill. I mean, whether you like it or not, that's freaking impressive. And I enjoyed it as much as i've enjoyed Face Off (there, I brought it back)
@@mrbanks456 Even to people who don't know who he is! I had never even heard of Deadpool and I saw a trailer for the movie and thought, "Wow! This red dude is really funny! I should see this!" Now I'm freaking addicted to Deadpool.
Am I the only one that enjoys Hard Target? It was a sweet Van Damme movie, has great action moments, Lance Henriksen is a good villain, and, for some odd reason, I loved Wilford Brimley playing a cajun. XD
John Woo made Replacement Killers with Chow Yun Fat and Mira Sorvino, which is the same flavor of over-the -top action as Face/Off. I also liked it a lot.
I remember seeing FaceOff in the theater with friends in 5th grade and my Dad got totally busted by my Mom for taking us. Lol. The movie was unsettling at some parts but it was freaking awesome. We painted our toy Colt 1911's gold! Then he took me to see Con/Air. I mean of course he would! It was the 90's. Oh, and The Rock >>> FaceOff & Con Air. The Nickonissance
I first remember the teaser for this film shown in theater. It was just a soundtrack with Cage and Travolta's faces slowly merging together in split screen. It was that easy back then.
Ah normative masculinity, Buffy is more badass, bloody, gritty, and thought provoking than any of the transformers shows, movies or anything and yet it's seen as less "manly"
Dude, you can say it's because of Spike and not Angel. That might help give you some man points back... Wait by saying that I know Spike I've showed I've watched Buffy as well... Is the club recruiting?
The John Woo black coat signature actually began with A Better Tomorrow popularised by Chow Yun Fat. Kids in 80s Hong Kong started dressing up like Mark from the movie once it came out. I highly recommend some of Woo's earlier stuff especially Bullet in the Head which is possibly the darkest and most nihilistic entry on his filmography.
Correction.. the long black coat emo phase started even earlier with the crow. I remember eevery Halloween the emo kids all had the same eric draven costume.
I'm a few years older than Rob and I got the black trench coat thing from the bad guys in Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man. Theirs were leather and bulletproof, way better than the rest of the examples.
John Woo did lot of movies in 1970s and 1980s but lately its been a movie in 6 years . Windtalkers , Paycheck 2002 ... Red Cliff 2008 ... The Crossing 2014 ... but then he is 70 years old .
Don’t worry Rob, I mixed up actors of the same race/similar names all the time. Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling Tom Cruise and Christian Bale Ving Rhames and Michael Clack Duncan Some people look similar or have similar names, it’s a common mistake, don’t feel bad about it man.
Speaking of trench coats, those are officially banned at my school. A buddy of mine wears one when the closest thing to winter where we live comes around.
I was a trench coat highschool kid, too, but in 2007-2009 before I got bored of wearing it. It was a cotton coat, though, not leather, and I secretly pretended to be a Mafioso instead of Blade or Tom- I mean Neo.
Part of what made the Abrams Trek for me so terrible? Was the advertising campaign for the first one. I don't know if it was just regional to where I lived in the Pacific Northwest because most people elsewhere in the country don't seem to remember this... but the movie was advertised there as a straight up prequel. A straight up "See how Kirk becomes Captain of the Enterprise" and keying in on continuity and honestly a bit of empty space to tell a story between what we saw of Christopher Pike in the Pilot/The Menagerie, and the Original Series crew taking over instead. So when it was like 8 minutes in and clear that if it was a straight up prequel, someone really failed continuity research on it, yeah. I was pitchfork and torch mob ready as it were. Entirely because of the advertising campaign pulling the bait and switch. All the trailers and TV spots and such saying "See the first adventure as James T. Kirk takes command of the Enterprise, and the rise of the legendary original series!" and such, like a prequel instead of a reboot. Even after that sting which sat with me throughout the theater... when I came back to it just wasn't a good Star Trek movie. I mean when you look back at the Good Trek movies, they all have something in common. They're very true to the show. It's not necessarily something you'd see IN the series due to budgets and such. But it feels like it's the same group, the same kind of stories, etc. When there is action it is more about out thinking the opponent and bluffing them than it is about out shooting or out flying them. The problems are often ones that speak to fundamental aspects of the human condition. Growing old, and all that entails. The consuming fires of revenge. If you can put aside your past with a bitter enemy, and embrace a peaceful future. Abrams movies just... in hindsight it seems like he was just using them as a portfolio example for Star Wars because he sure as hell didn't want to do Star Trek. To me there's a sense of bitterness that comes off in the movies. Particularly "Into Darkness" where the Wrath of Khan parallels feels more like "SEE! I'm shoving this down your throat! Eat it up assholes! This is what you want huh!" in this really vindictive tone that is so off the mark that even as a fanboy I can't get into it.
Ashamed to admit this but I also wore a duster for about 3 months in high school. Fun with 10th grade. Not ashamed to admit watching Face/Off countless times on cable. A real thoughts on the Jaws movies would be fun, since the sequels just got BD releases.
For some reason, that artsy, hyper-melodramatic sensibility of Chinese/Hong Kong (and most Asian) films gets lost in the translation to English. However, Face-Off and Hard Target makes it work because all the leads are either foreigners or alien robot clones.
Top 10 John Woo movie 1) Hard Boiled 2) The Killer 3) A Better Tomorrow 4) Bullet in the Head 5) Red Cliff 6) Red Cliff Part 2 7) Face/Off 8) Last Hurrah for Chivalry 9) A Better Tomorrow II 10 Hard Target
If any one wants to see a great John Wu movie you can watch Red Cliff (both movies), the fights, the strategy, characters....cinematography, just excellent.
I don't really get that Doug loves this movie for what it is a corny, cheezy, over the top action flick, but on the other hand he hates Independence Day and Godzilla 98, which are exactly the same kind of movie for me.. I really like and enjoy (but not love) them too.
FeroxX I think it's because while they're all corny and cheesy and campy, the characters are so much more memorable while the movies you mentioned that came out in the 90's is unfortunately riddled with the problem of stereotype characters. Sure Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum managed to break out of it but other than that, the side characters are molded too much.
