Not Another Cacio E Pepe Reaction Video: MUST WATCH!

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Finally I had the pleasure to react to a great recipe! Not Another Cooking Show channel surprised me with this brilliant Cacio e Pepe recipe, and I LOVED it!
It’s such a joy to watch someone able to cook Italian food properly. Well done 👏🏻
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@mattyslicks 8 месяцев назад

Steven stated years ago that "plating" (or lack of plating) onto the cutting board was a production decision. He started his channel out of his parents' home and didn't want the hassle of having to have all different colors and types of plates that maybe needed for different types and different colors of food, etc. It keeps everything uniform for him and the viewers.

@zenergetic_8299 9 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed his video. As a fellow Italian American it’s good to see these recipes treated properly. He has other videos of the Roman dishes that are great.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Yeah his videos are great and he really can cook Italian food! 👏🏻 I love to see videos like these 😍

@ascendant95 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate Are you gonna make a sausage and peppers stromboli? The crown jewel of Italian-American creations lol.

@Sharon46T 9 месяцев назад

@@ascendant95 ooh what’s that? I hope Vincenzo does do a video on that 👍

@ascendant95 9 месяцев назад

@@Sharon46T It's a beautiful thing. You would love it. You spread pizza dough out into a rectangle, spread the ingredients out on the rectangle...............and roll it up like a big jelly roll. Bake at 375F for 25 minutes. Comes out perfect in a home oven, it doesn't need high temps. I've tried every possible stromboli combo you can imagine. Go with the sausage and peppers. Trust me. Steven did a video a couple weeks ago titled something like "Christmas Sausage and Peppers stromboli". Steven is using mozzarella in his, but walk on the wild side and try it with slices of provolone sometime. Sprinkle in some oregano too. :)

@ascendant95 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate Go full on Italian-American and make a sausage and peppers stromboli Vincenzo. My comment to you got 5 thumbs up in one day lol. Are you scared you would love it? The guy who invented stromboli in Philadelphia had an Italian accent. Isn't that enough? :)

@gorathsghost6475 9 месяцев назад

Please please do a collaborative video with him that would be so awsome!! My favorite Italian youtubers. Learned so much from both of you! My Carbonara is spot on!

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

I would love a collab with this guy, I really enjoyed his recipe! We should ask him if he’s interested in a collab with me

@charlierudder2696 9 месяцев назад

Seconded!

@scottishfm5184 9 месяцев назад

Just want to say thank you to vincezo and James makinson. As a chef I feel out of love with cooking a few years ago but after watching there videos it's made me fall in love with cooking again. There passion is just infectious

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

My pleasure my friend! Glad to hear that watching my videos made you fall in love sith cooking again! 👨‍🍳🇮🇹

@thecherrypah83 8 месяцев назад

Obi-Wan gaze intensifies.

@jesusislord88 9 месяцев назад

Finally, this is awesome, two of my favorite chefs, and you like his cooking, which I always thought you would if you saw him. Keep up the awesome vids!

@venoalbazy77 9 месяцев назад

I love Steven, he is Italian American 🥰been following him for 3 years now. I’m glad you’re a fan ❤️❤️ the reason for the chopping board is for the photos. His cooking book is flawless ❤ His videos are educational, artistic, and mouthwatering for sure 😅

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

The choice for the chopping board was so interesting and the recipe was flawless! 😋🍝

@venoalbazy77 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate I know it's a good one when it has your attention ❤️

@blevens7251 9 месяцев назад

Plus Steven is not a purist. He finds ways to obey the spirit when obeying the letter is not possible.

@murraylangley2449 9 месяцев назад

Have followed both these chefs for years now. Both have been inspirational in my cooking, thank you.

@BryantHH 9 месяцев назад

Steven is by miles the best person in the US to teach americans anything about italian food. His Carbonara videos are absolutely golden, one could almost think, you are twins :) He adores the italian cuisine so much. Thanks for the video, Vincenzo

@ileanahernandez1709 9 месяцев назад

From what country in America are you from, there's 37 countries in the Americas 🌎.

@BryantHH 9 месяцев назад

@@ileanahernandez1709 very pedantic in a way, since it was sort of clear i was talking about us americans :) but there you go, sorry if you felt offended by not clarifying that.

@ascendant95 9 месяцев назад

@@ileanahernandez1709 This again huh? The reason the whole world calls the United States of America............America...........is because the word America is in the title of the freaking country. Stop whining!!!! (Arnold Schwarzenegger impression). Stop whining!!!!

@jabbasnutsack 9 месяцев назад

Calling people sir is ridiculous but it's cool you like Vincenzo. He isn't going to blow you so drop the sir.

@talewoodstudio 9 месяцев назад

@@ileanahernandez1709He literally said “US” so it’s not really rocket science really to put 2 and 2 together and understand that he’s referring to Americans from the USA my guy. No one else refers to themselves as “Americans” from any other country the continent. Single digit IQ comments are in full flow with this one my guy 🤦‍♂️

@giraffesinc.2193 9 месяцев назад

I'm so glad you reacted to Steve! He's such an awesome cook and his videos have only gotten better since he moved to his beautiful apartment. Happiest New Year, Vincenzo, love you lots!

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Happy to hear that you found this video entertaining! Which of Steve's other recipes should I react to? 😋

@adrian-dragosbalaban6401 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplatehis recent stromboli video kinda blew my mind

@Hal_Jr 8 месяцев назад

I’m delighted that you reviewed Steven’s video and liked it. You two are my “go to” channels for “Italian done right.” Thanks for all you do to help make us laypersons better cooks. Happy new year, Vincenzo! Here’s to another year of terrific videos.

@msp_isyourteacher6139 9 месяцев назад

I love love love that chef! He does a lot of educating on how to cook. He is a lot like you in that sense! Also, he does some cool stuff with his filming that makes him unique.

@andreacostanzo3517 9 месяцев назад

Love your reaction Vincenzo! Your channel and Steve’s are my go to spots for authentic recipes and hints to make the dish perfect, so it was great to see you react to him. Thanks for helping me introduce Italian tradition into my household. Sei il migliore!

@danhem100 9 месяцев назад

NotAnotherCookingShow is a top top channel. Love to watch his work 😘 Nice of you to give him the credit he deserves 👏

@pointdexter5215 9 месяцев назад

I'm glad you reviewed him, I really enjoy his videos and style as well. Great methods and tips!

@eduardovanzini2470 8 месяцев назад

Was really looking for the PastaGrammar but you show up to really save my italianity. What a fresh breath of wisdom thanck you Vincenso.

@GlasgowDialectogram 8 месяцев назад

Lovely to see my two favourite Italian cuisine channels come together, with such evident respect and admiration too! Would love to see you guys collaborate.

@JLPetter 9 месяцев назад

I loved this video, I also subscribed to Not Another Cooking Show just because he makes great video's as wel.. Thanks Vincenzo!

@supEnoc 9 месяцев назад

2 of my favorite cooks! Just bought some Pecorino recently, gotta finally try this

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Faaantastic to hear my friend 🤩 you will fall in love with Pecorino cheese that you’ll never stop using it 🤣

@robertr2953 9 месяцев назад

Great video and reaction! I enjoy his content. I think the cutting board presentation is just for video purposes since he is just eating it himself and it looks nice on the video!

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

It did look nice and his pasta was perfect! 😍🤤👨‍🍳

@mikehamel1622 6 месяцев назад

Steven's entire Roman pasta series is spot on and is what taught me great classic techniques to make so many awesome dishes at home. My kids devour my pastas.

@wolfmiser 9 месяцев назад

Yesss! Enjoyed your reaction video. Please make more reaction videos of his channel! I follow some of his recipes too. He serves all his food on his cutting board only for presentation purposes haha.

@SassyCindy 9 дней назад

Love this! He is so down to earth. Excellent video! Thank you for sharing!!

@vincenzosplate 4 дня назад

Thank you for the support my friend!!!

@Slanderbot 9 месяцев назад

I use more parm reggiano than pecorino romano because pecorino is literally 4x the cost of parm around here and that's if you can even find it.

@charlierudder2696 9 месяцев назад

You are both my main Italian cooking inspirations! Love what both of you do!

@rika7625 9 месяцев назад

I would love to see a Steven and Vincenzo collab video. I watch you both for my Italian recipes! Lovely review! ❤

@BuckeyeExpat 9 месяцев назад

Steve and Vincenzo two of the best Italian chefs on you tube. I have learned alot from both of you

@davidcanadasmazo 9 месяцев назад

I knew from Not Another Cooking Show before you Vicenzo, and I've learnt some of my home favorites from him. Now is a mix of the two :) But this guy knows how to cook pasta!

@chriscockey7649 9 месяцев назад

My favorite 2 cooks. Love them both. I often watch both for a recipe and then do it.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Aw thank you so much for the support, I highly appreciate it! Which of our recipes have you tried till now? 😋🍝

@heavyq 5 месяцев назад

Steven is such a chill dude. I've made so many of his recipes and all of them have been delicious and easy to follow. I haven't made his Cacio E Pepe, but if it's half as good as yours was it'll be another recipe of his added to my list!

@maylinde986 9 месяцев назад

(: Nice that you reacted to him! I'm also following him.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Thank you a lot, I’m glad you enjoyed the reaction video. What do you think of his Cacio e Pepe?

@osho5996 8 месяцев назад

I like when youtubers I follow compliment each other on a video, means I'm on the right path👌

@OneRandomBastard 9 месяцев назад

You can tell Vincenzo is a born and bred Italian, because the man lives in Australia and still wants to go everywhere to meet and cook with people.

@HeavyweightMind 9 месяцев назад

My two favorite cooking channels, coming together. This is a great day.

@ryanrobnett8189 9 месяцев назад

Steve loves to make his dishes with a great presentation and pays attention to lighting and everything. Me and my kids all watch his videos (and yours) very frequently, gets them excited about cooking and eating!

@XorsonX 9 месяцев назад

Love both channels! I would love to see a collaboration with you guys!

@TommyG5585 9 месяцев назад

I've followed not another cooking show for a couple years now and he has passed along some fantastic dishes. Thanks for assessing his process. Much love to you and merry Christmas to you and yours ✝️

@Ahglock 9 месяцев назад

He has a lot of great recipes, he even does tiny meatballs for his spaghetti and meatballs.

@tommanning7337 9 месяцев назад

I’m so glad you did this video, I’ve been mentioning him in your comments from time to time, he makes so many great dishes. I would love to see you guy’s cook together, MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!! ❤️ 😎👍🏻👍🏻

@lukasb4497 9 месяцев назад

You two are the reason I’m cooking how I do now. Found both of you during Covid and haven’t looked back since. He’s a fellow NYer and provided a nice twist on a lot of dishes but for the Roman staples he doesn’t stray from the original.

@mr.s.8595 9 месяцев назад

I enjoy Stevens videos very much. Either as a beginner or to improve already existing skills, these videos are of great value. In addition I like his introduction to the products used for cooking. They are short and also very valuable. Over the last couple of years I have used about 20-30 of his videos and it really helped me to improve my italian cooking skills a lot.

@MrKim-ff7ji 9 месяцев назад

I follow both of your channels. Love your recipes. I just knew you would rate his dishes well. Learned so much from you Vincenzo!

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

When they do a great job is only my pleasure to praise their cooking skills! 😊 Which of my recipes have you liked the most till now? :)

@MrKim-ff7ji 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate the carbonara videos, the bolognese one and the one you made with David.

@razumov22 9 месяцев назад

Your videos and Not Another Cooking Show's taught me how to make proper pasta. Cheers to you both.

@springbloom7582 9 месяцев назад

Hi Vincenzo - I subscribed to not another cooking show. I agree with you. He’s a great guy. Have a happy new year to you and your family!

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Excellent my friend! Let me know which of his other recipes I should react to 😁 Happy New Year to you too 🎆🎇

@springbloom7582 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate will do!

@batslav 9 месяцев назад

I am not Italian but it's good to see people who respect the recipes they make.

@Dibipable 8 месяцев назад

He is an american americano-italian, he travels to Italy… I am a french franco-italian from France and i discovered Cacio e pepe pasta with you. Tank you chef. Buona festa. Bien à vous. In Marseille (⚜️France).

@dusanivanovic7043 8 месяцев назад

Ive been watching Steven from his early days (3 years ago) and I am so happy to see him getting visibility.

@Khepramancer 9 месяцев назад

Another small detail that makes a big difference with this dish, since it will tighten up fairly fast out of the pan, is to serve Cacio E Pepe on warm plates!

@TheYukiko123456 9 месяцев назад

Yay, you finally review his video. I like his recipe especially for Aglio e Olio

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Hey, I’m super glad you enjoyed this reaction video 🙏🏻 I’m for sure going to check his Aglio e Olio recipe too, thank you for the suggestion!

@ediazcalvo 9 месяцев назад

I never understood my "strings" problem and I actually think is that stringy grating... I actually never thought It could be so trascendent in the end result

@chrisbelvedere6653 9 месяцев назад

That's why he uses the cutting board for the nice look for photography purposes, he has had to explain this before.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Well, chopping board or not he made a great Cacio e Pepe and I bet it tastes great too!

@60frederick 9 месяцев назад

Wow! The last reaction video of 2023 and you don’t have to be shouting. Your hair got darker! Thank you very much, Vincenzo, for sharing your video with us. Happy New Year to Suzanne, to Sebastian, to Alessandro and to you, Vincenzo!

@jaydoh6420 5 месяцев назад

Really want you two to do a duet in the kitchen! Love the wholesome support!

@VectorAT 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Vincenzo, i was always grating the pecorino wrong and always wondered why it gets filante although following your recipe. Now i know!

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Great to hear, and I’m really glad to help! It’s always a pleasure for me 🙏🏻

@antkneecampy 8 месяцев назад

Ciao Vincenzo! It definitely makes me happy to see this recipe done so well and to get your reaction from it. I’m an Italian American and I love both your and Steven’s channels so much. It would be great to see the both of you collaborate some time! Buon appetito!

@katcalico9142 9 месяцев назад

Baaaaaaa 🐑 love it!!! I am not even really a decent home cook but love your channel and my skills have slightly improved along the way!

@david5544g 8 месяцев назад

I've been watching "Not Another" for a couple of years now... I don't know his culinary education but he's very skilled, cares about authenticity, and does a lot of research to make things right... Whoever produces his videos is a genius...It might be him... So engaging and relaxed.... It gives you the feeling that "you can do this"...... Love your content, take care and Happy New Year.

@aris1956 9 месяцев назад

12:09 Questo ragazzo una volta non aveva piatti, metteva la pasta sopra un tagliere. Poi ha cominciato a comprare qualche piatto e ha cambiato sistema. 😉 😀 Nemmeno io ho mai capito questo suo sistema, ma diciamo che era una sua caratteristica tutta personale. Comunque c’è da dire che lui, di origini italiane (se non sbaglio da parte del padre) si impegna anche a fare delle ricerche quando fa i suoi video sui piatti italiani e vedere anche un po’ la storia dietro il nome, dietro l’origine di un certo piatto. E si impegna anche per quanto riguarda la scelta degli ingredienti. PS: molti dei cosiddetti “cuochi stellati” che presenti tu a volte su questo canale, potrebbero imparare molto da lui !

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Si, onestamente è una scelta che non comprendo, ma sono contento di sapere che adesso utilizza dei piatti 😆 In ogni caso, apprezzo tanto il suo canale perché, come hai detto tu, si vede che questo ragazzo sa di cosa parla. E non è da tutti 🙄

@juliahinkel479 9 месяцев назад

I really learned how to cook properly with Steven! His weekday sauce is the best!

@axelarroyo3286 9 месяцев назад

Two of my favorite cooking channels! Along with that crazy Jean Pierre 😂

@flarica64 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, my three faves too!🥰

@michellehicks2890 8 месяцев назад

My 2 favorite chefs!!! I loved this!

@lucymiau5700 9 месяцев назад

Beside of the missing plate, it is a fine video that makes me want to eat this dish again.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Same here my friend! He did a great job with this Cacio e Pepe that I’ve also would’ve eaten it directly from the pan 😋

@jimmycurrire7868 8 месяцев назад

I watch both yours and his shows religiously and I got to say he puts it on the board just for presentation and the video's sake I believe

@denbo74 9 месяцев назад

My two favorite RU-vid cooking shows!! You guys are the best!

@rippedtopshelf6806 8 месяцев назад

I've followed his recipe with great success. Good to see that the maestro approves!

@letsgomets002 11 дней назад

This guy is great Vincent....you must follow him

@maximan4363 4 месяца назад

OMG I burst out laughing at this!! Ohhh, you made me cry!!! 🤣🤣🤣 No matter how good it tastes, if it looks bad on the plate you have already lost! It can be soooo simple but make it look good!! I had homemade Goat Stew in a farm house in rural Greece 20 years ago and I still remember how good it was!! I love Chef Jean-Pierre, he cooks with passion, he's not pretentious and he's so fun to watch!!!

@AmbitionIsaMust115 9 месяцев назад

Sometimes it feels like you and Steven are the only guys i can trust to get perfect Italian pasta

@drewbydoobydoo2918 8 месяцев назад

Every pasta I've made from NACS are so delicious, they make me feel like a better cook than I am haha.

@DJP-ph7yj 9 месяцев назад

Awesome to see a good result here. Well done.

@therealunclassified 8 месяцев назад

Vinnie, youre a real one. Makes me happy that you watch others channels.

@opelfahrer91 9 месяцев назад

Love your videos, really sparked my joy of cooking authentic italian food :)

@EGO0808 9 месяцев назад

Steve is awesome like you are awesome, Vincenzo.❤

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Oh, you’re so nice 🙏🏻❤️ this is much appreciated!

@gdbruin777 8 месяцев назад

Probably my 2 favourite food channels on RU-vid. Simple dishes that look absolutely delicious

@steinetrinder696 9 месяцев назад

My two favourite Italian cooking channels, ever. I love Italian cooking and you both have shown me how to cook. As a side note Vincenzo, I made a Lasagna for Christmas, for the family. And Sir it was a winner.

@BartMan59 9 месяцев назад

i watch you both - AMAZING dishes from you both. Vincenzo', Steve is from NYC and I am happy to see you are aligned with his cooking techniques. I believe Steve is being creative and out-of-the-box (different from others) serving his classic Cacio e Pepe dish. lol :P

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

I found the use of the chopping board very interesting! I may also give it a try 😂😋👨‍🍳

@catassia8630 9 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas Vincenzo ❤️ thank you for this beautiful video

@joeyhardin1288 8 месяцев назад

Happy New Year. Thank you. God Bless and stay safe.

@etm567 4 месяца назад

My husband is going to love this so much. He avoids fat assiduously and adores black pepper. I can't wait to make it for him.

@letsgomets002 9 месяцев назад

Glad you found him he's great...do more of his stuff Vince

@RickDavidMate 9 месяцев назад

I remember during Covid when I started to learn how to cook pasta. Every video on RU-vid was making me confused. Yours was the only one that helped and it was because you broke down the importance of pasta water. And like that, everything clicked. Thank you 😊

@callejonization 9 месяцев назад

Steven is such a good cook and explains everything so well, I was sure Vincenzo was a fan 👍🏻

@_koschwarz 9 месяцев назад

Not Another Cooking Show is one of the best cooking channels.

@healtheworld2059 9 месяцев назад

Great job ❤ One of the rare times a non Italian nails a recipe. Double great job since I never succeded in making a c et peppe, outstanding ❤

@billbrookings9399 9 месяцев назад

I enjoyed the reaction video and your teaching. You should consider including the URL to videos that you react too .. .or at least the good videos.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Great suggestion! Thank you for this tip 😄

@bluelagoon2829 9 месяцев назад

it lights up my heart to see your passion for italian cuisine. i loved this video because you really appreciated what a good job he did!

@yitziyyb 9 месяцев назад

Been begging you for 2 years to react!! Finally!!!

@aris1956 9 месяцев назад

But I often get the impression that my friend Vincenzo here is more willing to show people who ruin Italian dishes, and then make it clear how good he is, than he is to show people who can make very good Italian dishes and where he too can learn something. ;)

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Oh, I’m sorry if you waited for so long my friend, there are so many videos out there that needed a reaction too 🤣 Anyway, I really hope you enjoyed this one 🙏🏻

@phil4208 8 месяцев назад

I sub to his channel, no bs to his cooking, damn I'm hungry now, rome new york

@markknister6272 9 месяцев назад

Small details make your life better! For sure. Happy New Year

@jeanineskitchen2607 9 месяцев назад

you were very nice to him,because Steven cooks like a rock star!!!! love his show!

@chillaah2000 9 месяцев назад

I actually make this in a wok. Its super convenient but you have to constantly stirr so all the pasta gets touched by the water in the wok, because there is no water outside of the middle.

@fransbuijs808 9 месяцев назад

Yep. I also use a wok simply because it's the biggest pan that I have and it works perfectly for pasta.

@vincenzosplate 9 месяцев назад

Ciao, this is interesting to hear, since I’ve never used a wok for Cacio e Pepe (actually I’ve never used it for Italian recipes). So do you suggest making this recipe in a wok? Have you ever tried making it in a regular pan?

@chillaah2000 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate Yeah I would recommend it. Its really good for bigger batches, but I also made small batches in my regular pan although I have much more spills around my cooking place, and since Im lazy with clearning, I use the wok. :D Somehow I can also toss the pasta better with it because of the curviture the wok has. Also a wok really nice if you dont have a large stovetop, because it doesnt have a lot of surface.

@mizaru84 9 месяцев назад

@@vincenzosplate yeah similar to your silver giant pan at 9:36 I guess, just more curved. Wok makes it less messy, easier for tossing and easier to scale for larger servings

@midwestkayaker3471 8 месяцев назад

His channel awesome, been following him for a very long time , as your channel too rocks it, your both amazing and enjoy watching all your videos, I hope the both of you get to make a video together soon, that would be epic!!!👍👍

@skibidi.G 9 месяцев назад

Vincenzo my homeboy MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! 🎄🎁🧑‍🎄. Long time no see, I was locked out of my accounts. Now I'm back and so are you 🎉

@JanusXX 9 месяцев назад

when the pasta dries up the sauce, you can add another laddle of the cooking water and stir. It works most of the time.

@Pam-56 8 месяцев назад

Love Steven. I watch his videos all the time. Another American Italian that’s pretty good is Sip and Feast. He’s a home cook. Very good too.

@MrChrilify 9 месяцев назад

Now my mouth is watering all over the place. Caccio e Pepe is looooove. I cant wait to see your arancini Caccio e Pepe style. Thanks for sharing this.

@sharendonnelly7770 9 месяцев назад

Glad you recommended "Not Another Cooking Show". Will definitely check it out, especially since it is Vincenzo approved. And, will try this simple recipe as it looked delicious. But, will do half pecorino and half Parmesano R. I am American, so have to take baby steps before I go full on sheep cheese. On second thought, probably should blame my husband for the pecorino caution, I love feta (he doesn't) so I would probably love pecorino 100% in Cacio E Pepe. Great review!

@vincenzosplate 4 месяца назад

I'm delighted you're keen to explore "Not Another Cooking Show"! It's always a pleasure to share recommendations, especially when it comes to fellow chefs who inspire and impress. And hey, no worries about taking baby steps with the pecorino-I completely understand