Not Even Nadal Can Handle Federer's Best on Hard Court 

Wonderful comment! Miss Roger a lot…

Literally. He was Zeus on a tennis court.

His confidence level was out of this world

Maybe not crack but he definitely played like a mongoose on amphetamines!

Nadal played a good match too, I'm not sure what else he could've done.

Federer played incredibly well from 2007 to 2017, while Nadal couldn't keep up on hard courts. Indian Wells was a massacre.

A commentator once said: this isnt a backhand it is backnukehand

too bad he was already past his prime. Prime Federer with that Backhand would've been nearly unbeatable

@@germanpenn Absolutely true. Sad that he changed his racket so late.

@@unowen7591 he took 5 sets to beat a below par Nadal in AO. He wouldnt beat a prime Djokovic.

@@germanpenn Nadal with isner serve would be even more unbeatable, 🤣🤣 We can play this game all day

You won't be the only one

Same!!

I agree. Roger has always been a wonder to behold. Such a great and one of a kind champion of nothing more than excellence.

I hear you today man 🤝

Me too

Nadal fan here, who doesn’t?!

Fed fan here and Rafa is an absolute legend. Love both of them.

Best performance i have watch him against Nadal by far

Roger fan here. How can anyone who loves tennis not acknowledge these 2 guys? Anyone who doesn't is just a fan fanboy. Glad to see some people who aren't.

I'm a Feds guy, but they're both tops for me.

hell nah

Well, All AO 2017 was the best performance on hard courts by Federer.

Nah man it’s not even Fed’s best performance on hard courts. His best just might be the 2003 Masters Cup final.

Nadal said that djokovic's performance against him in doha 2016 was the best in the history of tennis

as good as federer was, I think the highest levels ever achieved on hard courts were djokovic and nadal at ao 2012 final.

Also create a hotline for people to call that are Fed junkies - people watching him play over and over again and marveling at the beautiful yet mysterious level of perfection to his game.

Well said ❤️

I agree with you 100%. That's what we have for the rest of our lives. The man was Micheal Jackson to the sports world. He is no less than anything that Tiger did for golf. He is not American,but neither was Bruce Lee.

get help

@@johnjeffers1524 , I love you too. 💋

Federer crushed Nadal on fast or indoor surfaces (even Wimbledon which would eventually become a rally fest). But 2017 was the first time Federer really destroyed Nadal on slow surfaces like Indian and Miami Wells decisively. While he lost the match in the French Open, that was a match with a lot of wind variability which undoubtedly hurt him more than Nadal considering his only chances of beating Nadal was to take the ball early.

You could do that with Roger, too. For years I would laugh at Nadal's balding pate...but Roger's hairline started heading backwards about 5 years ago at a fairly rapid pace so I had to stop making fun of Rafa's comb over. I still get a little teary-eyed about no longer being able to say, "Rafa's got a big old bald spot...bur Roger's got great hair!" LOL! Novak at least has all of his hair...but his haircut is stupid and has no style...so he's not winning the hair GOAT war either. LOL!

@@jollymolly2521 He probably will.

@@jollymolly2521 LOL, so true. Novak's Frankenstein haircut isn't winning him much love (actually it is really Dr. Frankenstein's monster, but no matter), but his tennis prowess is.

Y'all are a bit harsh, nadal still has hair. He hasn't got a lot but still has some.

Nadal and Djokovic destroy roger

@@rishbahpandey8697 very constructive remark

Djokovic and Federer destroy Nadal's hairline.

Jaja esa cara lo dijo todo

I’m a Federer fan but I live Nadal. What a warrior.

I’d like to emphasize that either your ground strokes have to be freakishly powerful, like say Thiem, Tsonga, Berdych, Verdasco, or you have to combine strong ground strokes with taking the ball really early, like Federer and sometimes Djokovic. But you also have to employ this game plan without hitting many unforced errors, hence why all these players have losing head to heads against Nadal except Djokovic, who is an exception because he is a freakishly good defensive player and can go toe-to-toe with Rafa from the baseline. And sometimes, even if you employ your game plan perfectly, Rafa can still beat you, just ask Verdasco at AO 2009, Thiem at the USO 2018, Berdych at AO 2012, Federer AO 2009. And that’s all only on hard courts. On clay you’re pretty much screwed no matter what you do.

@@SJ-di5zu 100%

I appreciate Rafa as a player. Even when he lost the Australian Open in 2012 to Djokovich, it felt like I watching two Artificial Intelligence machines playing each other. If what you're saying is true then Rafa has had a lot of problems. He may lead Fed 24-16 overall but if you take out their 16 clay appearances then Fed leads 14-10. Thats fourteen times in matches where Rafa has been injured when playing Fed? Why must people compare such perfect champions!

Agreed. This ‘debate is completely meaningless and a WOT.@@melthoidserendipity1332

@@melthoidserendipity1332 fed is average player infront of goatdal/Djokovic

Same❤️

The inside rubber surface is my preferred court to play on, it's shocking how bad my serves are outside, or how I can't move on clay. In my opinion we can't go too hard of Nadal here. Federer is probably the better player of them both, but not on clay. I respect both of these players and think to myself they are fricking awesome in a game like this

@@Harrison13300 yes agreed..... Nadal is far and beyond Federer on clay in terms of match up. he is far and beyond everyone in history probably....when it comes to clay. Federer is quite ahead on grass and indoors and slightly ahead on hard courts. but the fact that they are close is what makes their rivalry intriguing, just like their rivalry with Djokovic. what makes FEDALOVIC intriguing is their extremely high quality game on all surfaces against each other. you dont get to see that on a per match basis over 15 plus years in any other rival trio. no trio even comes close.

@@pranavsreedhar1402 there is no denying that the big three will keep striving in the majors, Nadal and Federer's body builds are perfect for not only a decent running speed, but such powerful shots, and though Djokovic's body could just snap in half, he gets insane runs to perfect dropshots, and uses his mind so intently. (I would love to hear who you think is the best out of those three)

@@Harrison13300 Im of the opinion the big 3 are exactly equal in different ways.... I dont think Federer is better than Nadal or Djokovic and vice versa.....I would say Federer had it easy and tough with age... he had it easy to an extent because in his prime only nadal was challenging and only on clay.... once he crossed his age prime... Djokovic arrived so took a larger piece of the pie he enjoyed up until that point.... but Nadal has had it the toughest... with injuries.... then coming onto the scene with Fed at his best...then as he hit his prime Djokovic arrives.... he never really enjoyed time on his own....(except 2010 maybe or 2008) except on clay of course.... so he balanced it out there.... Djokovic had it tough then easy... like an opposite of Federer.... he arrived seeing both Nadal and Federer dominate as world no.1 and 2..... had health issues.... and was just coming short against those two until he changed his diet and attitude and mental ability.... so he struggled for a good 4-5 years....now when he hit his prime... he still had Nadal to contend with... but he had an edge on HC and disadvantage on clay... it still remains same... once he dismantled nadal...an older Federer would rise to the occasion and beat him... so he really had the toughest challenge in his prime... Nadal too... but he rose early to have an experiencial advantage and also tactical advantage against Fed from the start.... So Djokovic had to find his way to win... which took some time and then 2011 happened but he still didn't really solve federer.... then 2012-14 happened..... then he had the best seasons as he had solved Fed and Nadal.... both losing form or to age or injuries...from there only murray and Wawrinka really posed a threat outside the big 3....Wawrinka really played exceedingly well to beat Djokovic those three GS victories.....So Djokovic had to fight hard to get some of his victories.... but he had luck too... just like Nadal and Federer did on other occasions... his biggest luck though was there was no one else from the next gen that rose to the moment like Djokovic did to Federer.... just think about it... had Djokovic not risen in 2014-16... Federer could have won potentially 2-4 grand slams... as Djokovic was the one who beat him in those slams....I dont think anyone other than Nadal could beat him(not counting seppi and cilic and wawrinka as they were singular victories) from 2014 to 2016 consistently....without injury. Nadal had injury and drop of form... same with wimby 2019.... had Djokovic not really stepped up... Federer was the undoubtedly going to be overall king of the mountain....Nadal would only come close second... had Djokovic had someone like Zverev or Thiem rising consistently early enough.... he would have missed on some slams... they did rise but not high enough to finish Djokovic... thats why they are not in the same league... just think... Thiem losing in 5 at AO2020... Tsitsipas losing in 5 after leading 2-0 at RG2021... Medvedev really having a bad day at AO2021... Federer having match points at wimby 2019.... a lot of luck has benefitted Djokovic too.... Federer too had it... so did Nadal.... but Djokovic will "look" better since nobody till now has come to take a piece of his pie as Fed and Nadal have slowed down since 2020...Nadal being effective only on clay... Finally medvedev rose up massively to beat Djokovic at USO2021 and took one piece... can others also jump in and start taking more... time will tell... but as I see it.... Djokovic winning one or two more is not going to be surprising.... and will not make him greater than the other two... neither of the other two will not be really greater than the rest of big 3...so it should always be a stalemate... its a disservice to the two over whom you pick the greatest one.... but yeah...Federer remains a personal favorite for the way he plays... not really results but to think for the style he plays.... how on earth did he get so many slams...thats a legitimate question...... plus given Nadal and Djokovic.... he should have been stopped by them at 15-16 max... him getting to 20 first shows he remained competitive during their prime.... thats a conclusive story for me.... Djokovic and Nadal dont really have the same challenge as Federer... so unless that happens then its not even a fair comparison... Nadal had Thiem at RG...he handled him very well on clay... but lost out soon enough on other courts...Djokovic has Medvedev and Thiem...they are both kind of stale mate at the moment...Tsitsipas has joined the fight...so the real test for Djokovic begins now...

@@pranavsreedhar1402 I completely agree, the time in tennis now is VERY Interesting, we have the big three and the competitors. Out of the competitors my personal favourite is Tsitsipas, but I think Medvedev will go very far, not only after beating Djokovic in the Olympics, but the way he plays astonishes me. I put Zverev just above Tsitsipas. But as Federer gets older, and Nadal not competing in some majors like 2021 Wimbledon, Djokovi is put at the very top with Nadal taking a back seat. That gives Djokovic a few years before the competitors surpass Nadal. But if you think about when they do, or when Nadal retires, Djokovic is left to stay at top spot. After Nadal and Federer retire, that will be an interesting time in Tennis. I am sure that everyone who loves tennis agrees that, that will be an interesting period of Tennis. But the real question is. Who will be dominant of the competitors? After the big three retire my guess is it will be no set no. 1, it will be in and out from all the top players. They will be brilliant players in ten years, but I don't know if they can get any better than Nadal, Djokovic and Federer. They are once in a generation players...

Literally thousands of people care obviously. But you are right. There is no debate about who is the GOAT anymore. Funny thing is that before a certain guy came in and shattered every worthwhile Tennis record there was, Fed fans were goat this and GOAT that all around the internet. Now suddenly... "it doesnt matter". ;) Fun times :P

@@elwingy I like Federer yes but I also like Djokovic and Nadal. How am I a Novak hater when I try to copy his play style? I just don't see the point of having a GOAT.

@@cheffren7011 I did not call you a hater man.

@@cheffren7011 Indeed, there's no point in talking about the Djokovic. Oops I meant the GOAT. 🇷🇸🐐🔥

@@shiftt. Well... that's not really what I meant but okay I guess.

Nadal has shown unparalleled tennis and beaten his rivals too. He can't win everything. But Big 3 are same level and got nothing to prove.

Thank you!! Means a lot :) Hope you enjoy this video too

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I dont see setti gs in the way you show them. I see 720p50 as the auto setting

@@lsb9073 Great! For me it’s automatically set as 480 for some reason

@@RazOls ok, thanks Raz😊

Like master vs. amateur

It was slow only but as he was taking his shots so early, the court speed seemed like it was playing faster... Its a joke how he can do that so effortlessly

He did in 2015

@@utkarshpant5297 why he said “fast” hard court

@@utkarshpant5297 Federer's head to head record against djojer on hard courts in 2015 was 3-3..(3 wins and 3 losses) And obviously djoker had one of the greatest and dominating season in 2015 & still couldn't had winning head to head against 35 year old Maestro..

@@hirenpatel3699 Yeah exactly. He got overwhelmed by SABR and revamped footwork from a 34-year-old lol.

Djokovic owned the sabr in 2015 us open final.

AO 2009-2014, aka one of the slowest hard courts ever. It doesn't prove much.

🤣

As you said "in my opinion", there is your opinion and the factual reality.

@@KayleJudicator Well he also said “on fire” & that part is true too. The thing is Roger can’t maintain the “on fire” level for entire matches. I remember Nadal saying in an interview way way long ago, like 2007 or something, that when Fed is in the zone you just have to weather the storm & wait for his level to drop. That’s why you can have matches like RG 2006 or 07 (I forget which) where Fed literally bageled Nadal on clay & still lost in 4. He can’t maintain that “on fire” level.

@@sasook Berdych, Tsonga, Del Potro, Cilic can be on fire as well. Cilic literally annihilated USO 14. The problem is their consistency compared to the big guns, just like Federer to Djodal.

@@NamTran-xc2ip Those players’ “on fire” level happens far far faaaar less frequently than Federer. They hit that level maybe once a year, & only if they’re having a good year, Federer reaches that level several times a tournament. But, I recognize your name, you never miss an opportunity to undermine Federer :)

That's the difference these days... The court speed is slow in all surfaces