Not Quite my Tempo | Whiplash (2014) | 1080p HD 

That was not a lie. All was good and there was no worries, he should have just been competent enough to play the right tempo and all would have been fine.

@@MetaalMeerkat Yes, because you need to be a perfect musician BEFORE going to Music school. It's not like they're there to teach you or anything like that.

@@Hannodb1961 I am talking about the dialog and motives of a character in a film and how the situation actually supported his statement. This is not an argument about reality, it is an observation on art.

@@MetaalMeerkat Maybe he would've berated him even if the tempo was 100% correct, because that's just how he rolls: Always "pushing" people further, never telling them "good job", lest they think they're "good enough"

This is why i have trust issues

I agree. Both actors were extremely good in this scene. I felt bad for his character.

He really sold the pain and conflict behind his playing.

Problaly his only good acting role...

Ok

Yeah so

"He was a... thief! A criminal! He's a menace to the entire city! a menace!

​@@JordanWheeler1999 i'm dying bro 😂😂

“Think Neiman!”

@@serespre-historicos7718 you're Do It Yourself-ing?

@@jontraz5993 what you mean bro?

He could play Sgt. Hartman in 2020's.

its also cuz he is annoyed if his musician don't know if they are making a mistake.

@@TheSuperNuggetDude Same with the out of tune scene

To be fair, Neiman was off tempo a bit.

I'm a musician, and that tempo was really all over the place. Rushing and dragging at different points. Still doesn't deserve that extreme treatment tho, but Neiman was clearly in the wrong here.

Yeah, if you look at the guy next to Neyman at 0:44, the look on his face says it all.

@@Dovah21Especially when before Fletcher throws the chair, the shot of Andrew and Tanner, Tanner just stares at him like he’s incompetent.

I think that may be getting overlooked because throwing a chair at someone's head is pretty extreme so the slapping seems like the lesser evil in this situation... Fletcher's still a dick, though

Slapping him would technically be, in America would probably be a lawsuit

Not to mention the verbal abuse too

No he slapped him four times

He slapped him, threw a chair at him, threatened him, verbally abused him. Fletcher is a villain and not a good person, but some folks overlook that because of how charming and great JK Simmon’s acting was in this.

"BUBBA BUBBA BUB-" Idk why but that part was hilarious to me

Play the gall darn kit!!!!

“My God! Are you one of those single teared people? Do I look a double fucking rainbow to you?”

bababababa ba bababa ba

It was funny because pitch perfect came out in the same year I think

You’d be glad that he’s a noice guy in real life. Of course, it takes a nice guy to act as a mean person in movies, tv shows, etc.😁

@@MayDay14000 True. Reminds me of when Jeffrey Morgan was interviewed for the walking dead about playing Negan and one of the co-stars said something like "it's fun watching such a nice guy play a character who's you know... kind of a dick"

@@MayDay14000 you should see the guy in Oz

@@MayDay14000 it’s super easy to expose a person’s true characteristics when he’s an actor.

@@nithinsakthi9827 I will never EVER watch Oz because I could barely handle Simmons in this film. I also would like to spare myself the prison rape in general, thanks.

There’s something i never noticed before. At the beginning of this scene, when Neiman is playing and Fletcher is calling him Buddy Rich, Tanner has this worried look on his face as if he’s scared that Neiman will replace him, which eventually happens. But as the scene goes on and Fletcher keeps telling Neiman that he’s not quite following his tempo, Tanner’s face starts calming down, because he knows that Fletcher’s gonna yell at Neiman, to the point where it looks like he wants to smile

That’s why Fletcher says that a single compliment can prevent someone from having their passionate drive for excellence. As brutally abusive (even felonious) as his methods were, Fletcher’s philosophy still stands - self-improving CONSTANTLY is the key to achieving excellence.

@@EricGraham94 the sad part about that method is that the student will have this mindset of never finding excellency and satisfaction in their craft also leading to inferiority complex.

BS, complacency is the start of the inferiority complex

@@EricGraham94 But it's just a story, a highly dramatized version of real life. In reality, of course, types like Fletcher fail far more than they succeed, and the trope of the perfectionist high art instructor died out a long time ago. Negative reinforcement kills people's drive and passion, and while there might be a (completely unprovable) claim that abusive methods can bring out the "best" in an individual artist, the modern pedagogical approach for teaching music or art is closer to the exact opposite of this style, and the reason is not because we magically care more for the musicians or artists, it's because abusing those people in the past meant that a lot of them turned away from their talents, and therefore the teachers have less to show for it.

The majority of people in that room are actual music students and not actors. I don't think they knew he would throw the chair.

Why do people always act like an obvious part of the scene is some kind of revelation? Was anyone watching this thinking this was the first time he'd ever behaved this way? No.

​@@wintermute8315 😅

​@@talandelana6873everyone in the film knows the script. They are students but in the film they are extras.

2:26 idk they look pretty surprised to me.

This is what growing up with mentally unstable parents is like. This movie was so hard to watch

Okay scaredy cat

You’ve already seen Fletcher lose it at Metz by this point, so you’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop as soon as this scene starts. The suspense is masterful.

And the other drummer in the green knows exactly what's going to happen after the buddy rich comment.

@@GaiusCaligula234 Okay edgelord

when he was counting at 215 BPM he was on time tho

he did got right at the second try

lCardool23FGC Being that deliberate is counterproductive, given that a pop drummer, as well as a sophisticated jazz drummer are going to rush and slow the tempo down at some point. Humans are not rhythm machines.

lCardool23FGC exactly

tbh i can't really distinguished if its out of tempo or not

Lol... I wanna like this comment but the number is so perfect!

@@kennylove4461 .... Uh who tf cares?

@@JordanWheeler1999 obviously you or you wouldn't have commented 💀

he was at first but then he was rushing a bit. of course the real answer to the question "why did i throw a chair at you?" is "because you're a psycho".

666th like. Please people stop liking the comment as of now.

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Lol

"Were you floating, or were you dipping?"

Or when you can't find what he's looking for.

this is so goddamn funny lmao

“ I told you at the clutch so why the fuck are you pointing it at the damn spark plug!!!”

" Hit the light where my hands are dipshit, ain't no sweets down there "

Heh ye pictures nothing like his identity or something heh heh

I will when you fix this damn door

Terrence Fletcher is easily his best role though.

“Now Parker: are you going to get photos of old men playing chess? Or are you gonna be ON MY F---G TIME?!”

GET ME THE TEMPO OF SPIDERMAN

that's because people give a shit about women crying. men learn quickly that no one cares.

@@barbados3592 Not anymore. People have become more accepting in the decades.

@@depressedphilosopherbitch7581 it doesnt mean they care in a way that will help u get what u want. At least if u need a lot. Hugs dont matter to me, success does. Im not pretty, so here is how it is: i succeed or die. And i do it on my own. Because no one outside of God Almighty is going yo even be able to have my back.

@@barbados3592 how do you even know it's a woman

@@barbados3592 also, you succeed or die? You'll die either way my dude, unless you invent an antidote against death itself

Technically it was Neiman who was rushing

even the cameraman flinched

I think that is because everyone was at least once in such a situation. Real Life Fletcher encounters make you tough like steel. My best approach to dealing with a real life fletcher is just not giving a fuck.

The heavy footsteps really added to the fear factor here

Was he rushing or was he draging?

I feel like I've been word raped

We are Fletcher's. Bum ba bah dum ba bum

@@willkatching9219 "Bum ba Bah bum bum bum bum" Fletcher: WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING ACAPELLA? PLAY THE KIT!

This is one of the best comments I ever seen lmfao

this is incredible

Yeap

Do you meet people that actually laugh when someone is crying at a rehearsal?

​​@@karoljabonski6772 well I know someone who was laughing while someone else was having a seizure Prob because he was reacting to a joke his friend made at the moment, but yea those type of people exist albeit in very small quantities

​@@eugene5329 god what an asshole

@@karoljabonski6772 Absolutely, lots of people think of crying as being “weak”

what video it from tho?

WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THIS? YOU’RE PLAYING, SO YOU CAN WATCH EVERYONE AROUND YOU LOSE!!!! THINK NEIMAN!!!!

@TheCrackEdFett YOU’LL LIVE TO SEE THIS BAND CRUMBLE TO DUST AND BLOW AWAY!! EVERYONE! AND EVERYTHING YOU KNOW WILL BE GONE!! WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER 500 CONCERTS?!?!

@@mememan3447 My dad Fletcher, *heavy breathing* I'll still have my dad

​@@user-kq5ci7ol8o and those pictures of Spider-Man

He mostly wanted Andrew for his drive and dedication for his craft. He believed with that Andrew could be pushed to be one of the greats

💯

I was the guy getting his ass kicked

So relatable, it's awkward as hell but at the back of your mind you're thinking "at least that's not me!"

Pfp checks out

it's a homage to an old youtube video when some guy was crying as he's seeing a double rainbow

Because spider-man is a menace

Wrong he wasn't on tempo the police would understand

No you sure as hell wouldn't have said that

If you’re a bitch.

this is four years old but CONTEXT In the movie, homie is studying under like.. THE BEST TEACHER in the world. So if you have the chance at it all. You would eat those slaps, and not question the chair. Real make or break kinda shit

What are you in an a cappella group?

Also the scene before this when Fletcher was acting all nice to Andrew to get some detail of his inadequacies… which he attacks in this scene. Brilliant stuff

Well screw people like him then

He is commissioner Gordon.

If I close my eyes all I hear is Omni Man

Does Harvey know about you and his little bunny?

Favorite part hands down

As Heisenburg yeah but I can't picture him being timid like Walt was at the beginning of the show

@@cameronpeterson6734 I mean, we’ll never know? JK Simmons is a great actor and I trust he pull that character off.

@@cameronpeterson6734 If you want to watch JK Simmons pivot between being meek and badass on a dime, check out a highly underrated show called Counterpart (which Starz unceremoniously kicked to the curb because it was too dumb to know how to market its greatness properly).

No

J.K just can nail every role they give him

Nah he was a bit off tempo. I do think that was an overreaction. Big boy overreaction.

@@apurvaisnotcool He was off tempo by like .14, lol.

He also is able to give this menacing performance that makes the audience just as scared of Fletcher as the characters are

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facts!! Where did homie go?? We may never know

He knew what was gonna happen and he ran as fast as he could

He could just feel the chair coming in the pit of his nutsack

🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

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I think Satan is the one getting yell at by Simmons

nah its fletcher:DO. IT. AGAIN Satan: but- Fletcher:DO IT ON MY FUCKING TEMPO

Nah he's slightly to the right from Simmons perspective he would been fine

Sam Redmond that's how hard he threw the chair. Made the Guitarist evaporate into thin air. Later he Joins Wolverine in X-Men Origins. And helps Striker hunt down "dangerous" mutants.

@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 Lmao

Well he was rushing a bit

Jacob Mayer that's because he had higher hopes for Neiman and had no hope for Korra :p Also Neiman is the fucking star of the show so he has to take the hits :p

Omg, this happened with me too. 😫

Braaahhhhhhh

the sadness in that joke hit me right in the heart man

he literally tries to at the end of the movie too. unironically

J. K. or Miles?

@@nobodyburgen4594 miles

@@sadhappyrabbit7120 Yeah my question was dumb lol

Well, he made it into Top Gun Maverick, so he's got that (Did an excellent job at it as well)

Miles Teller is a phenominal actor and I would like to see more with him too.

If it ended Sam Cahill would have killed him

He did hit him

Nothing would have happened. Don’t be a crybaby.

@@charliesmash Like are you saying nothing would have happened to Fletcher, or if the chair hit him it wouldn't have hurt or whatever? Teacher at the school I used to work at got sacked for a lot less than throwing a chair at a student, I can tell you that. Dude makes a fair point, there's a reason music teachers don't behave like this irl. Quick way to get yourself fired; no matter the job, if you teach, the students are your clients.

@@HingleMcCringleberryPSU your school obviously didn’t demand the best.

There are many nuances throughout this scene and the movie in general, it really gives the viewer a visceral reaction

I love shit 🤣🤣🤣

Lmao

LOL! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"I will fuck you like a pig" had dying 😂😂🤣🤣💀

it's always the angriest teachers with the least to offer the world too 😂

The whole time I was watching this movie it just reminded me of being in basic training.

The best teachers were the hard ones.

There’s something i never noticed before. At the beginning of this scene, when Neiman is playing and Fletcher is calling him Buddy Rich, Tanner has this worried look on his face as if he’s scared that Neiman will replace him, which eventually happens. But as the scene goes on and Fletcher keeps telling Neiman that he’s not quite following his tempo, Tanner’s face starts calming down, because he knows that Fletcher’s gonna yell at Neiman, to the point where it looks like he wants to smile

No, he's worried about being replaced. Watch the fucking movie.

LOL😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂

apparently he had to practice for months to prepare for the role

Yes when he was younger, but he had to practice again

Miles was a drummer at his school

thank you for that

Hugo Rousu hey do you know why everytime Flrtcher cuts of Neeman, Carl( the main drummer looks confused? Does that mean Neeman was actually playing correctly and fkrtcher wqs abusing him for nonreason? @0:55 & 1:23

Nuno Santos No worries

I lolled

Lmao wtf!!

Boss Baby moment

Well, that escalated quickly

I know right?! LOL! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

also f-lipped cuz they haven't heard that one either ig.