Not Radical Enough: A Conversation with David Platt 

I love Voddie Bauchum and Fault Lines is a great book. He is such a solid and uncompromising teacher.

Why is Voddie Baucham the only Black preacher conservatives know, believe, and recommend?

@@daydreamerz I am conservative and have a Black pastor in my church, but he hasn't written a book that provides counterperspective to the topics covered here in this video. Why do you tacitly accuse 'the brethren' of 'believing only Voddie'? Are you implying Fault Lines isn't a great book as per the recommendation above (I admit I haven't read it yet): and what does that say about you if we are just about throwing stones?

@@daydreamerz He is not, are you not aware of Virgil Walker, Darrell Harrison, or Monique Duson? Voddie may be cited more because of exposure with his sermons posted, interviews, and books; but he isn’t the only one. Monique has a book in the works. Recommend you check out her work and the work of Virgil and Darrell on the topic.

Voddie calls out David Platt in his book fault lines for apologizing for his white privilege. (Posting just for information not to get attacked lol)

I understand exactly what you're saying, but there is a serious race problem in the United States.. in the world! (And I'm a 68 yr old white woman) I think maybe David has gotten too focused in one direction (maybe?) but we have to address the elephant in the room. I love what Tony Evans says, instead of CRT we should use KRT, kingdom race theory. So don't throw the baby out with the bathwater 😊 David Platt has such a heart for God and his people!

I agree with you completely. Racism is a sin of this world. I felt David was playing to the world by apologizing for his “white privilege”. David needs to stick to the gospel and teaching who God is, to hate sin and to become holy in Christ.

I agree completely Lauren. I think you said it well.

Could you just give one example of how David Platt has preached something contrary to the gospel? Just give me a place to start searching. I try to be like the Bereans and search for myself 😊

BlM is contrary to the gospel! There is evil, hate, bigotry. One race. The human race with the Gospel as the only solution to unity!

That's great to hear from you!

The race issue is much like many of all the other issues (Democrats vs. Republicans and vise versa, Christians vs Jews and vise versa, men against women and vise versa, etc., etc., etc.). All this is a DIVIDE AND CONQUER AGENDA put out by the most powerful of this world, for the purposes of steeling, kill, and destroying Gods people. The AGENDA OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER has been wage upon Gods people ALL OVER THE WORLD, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. When people argue about race, gender, politics... I have to laugh then I get sad... because I know that the people who engage in this kind of division argument/discussion have been duped by the agenda of the globalist controllers. Me ALL need to step out of this paradigm, and stop fighting within ourselves. As this is exactly what the globalist controllers want! They aim to weaken countries by these agendas of division, for the purposes of weakening the country, to IMPLODE UPON ITSELF. Thus, a country can be AT WAR WITH ITSELF without even realizing that THAT is EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON. The only way out of this, in my opinion, is to unite as one through the KJV Bible, and the Jews coming back to the original tribe of Israel and GET OUT OF WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY BEING TAUGHT - KABALAHISM (Spelling?) (Witchcraft).

You can learn our history and have a positive outlook for the future.

​@Luke Crawford that's an eschatological issue. If Jesus owns the world like the Bible says I pray you would open your eyes and mind and heart and believe him. The past was truly worse than the present if you do a real study of history.

​@Luke Crawford to read and to understand are two different things. Revelation isn't the gospel, it's a warning, and it's cryptic. If you don't know the old testament you cannot understand Revelation. When we interpret the Bible we must interpret from the view of the author, not our current place in history.

I know this is weeks later, but I just watched this and I don't have any background for this Platt guy. What did he do or say that upset people?

@@MrAwombat Lots. It began with a 2018 speech attacking the church from a BLM perspective. His McClean, Va. church has been full of turmoil because of the false social gospel he brought in. Jon Harris has done good videos on him.

@@conceptualclarity thanks! I'll check it out

@juliegray3949 I would like to push back a little (not in a divisive way but as a Berean, to make sure I am understanding where you are coming from), if you don’t mind. You stated, and took issue with the fact that you believe Platt brought politics into his church. However, our views on faith, religion, and politics build our worldview making it impossible to just leave it at the door. I haven’t followed Platt closely so I am unsure specifically of the circumstances you are referring. Are you suggesting that he just expressed something political as it pertains both to the Gospel and to his worldview or are you suggesting that he told people to vote for one party or the other? that he suggested you can’t be a Christian and vote for one party or the other? that he told his congregation to vote for one politician or another? that he did something as egregious as the examples I just mentioned? If you wouldn’t mind sharing what he did that you take issue with, I would appreciate it. I do believe that it is impossible to divorce yourself from politics just because you walk into a church just as it is impossible to divorce yourself from your faith just because you walk into a government building. However, if he used his platform to promote a political position, candidate, or party, that would be a misuse of his position and platform. That said, if the political position, party or candidate is doing something expressly in opposition to the Word of God, I could see him speaking up like Pastor John MacArthur did during the lockdowns when California went after him to stop his congregation from meeting together since that clearly went against Scripture. I would appreciate your feedback because I do want to make sure that I am understanding and “rightly dividing” this matter.

@@conceptualclaritycan you provide some more information/details? In the meantime, I will go look up the person you mentioned.

Good point.

Yep

Absolutely 💯.

The fact that you are already dismissive of the experiences that non-whites are having as 'crying wolf' shows a problem. Racism did not start today, it has been going on for centuries but it seems for many white 'Christians' loving your non-white neighbour is a commandment of Jesus which people would rather dismiss in favour of pride, prejudice and favouritism.

I agree. But still, death by a million cuts is still death.

Many of us have gone to Cornerstone Chapel in Leesburg with Pastor Gary Hamrick. He preaches methodically through the Bible verse-by-verse. And he does not act like he is always about to cry. 🙄

They feel sorry for you because that you naively believed your fellow Christians love you when they know what they say behind your back as a minority. White Evangelical Christian nationalism only has room for non-whites has their servants and footstools no matter how much you ape them, you will never be one of them.

This guys are clueless. I don’t even know where to star this is so backwards that they are actually racist and truly think so highly of themselves based on the color of their skin. I’m embarrassed on their behalf it’s 1000% crinch

So sad!!

That's what they do. They force out people who don't keep going along with their installation of Socialism.

That's horrible but not surprising in this present culture and day in which we live. DEI is anti-biblical and I applaude your friend for standing strong in their beliefs.

Justice needs no adjective as it has its roots in the Just GOD. HE is the Author of justice is no respecter of persons. The social justice agenda is attempting to subvert the true Gospel and implant another. The Apostle Paul says those who push or pursue another gospel are to be damned. David Platt has fallen prey to the delusion and pandemensia of the woke culture.

​@@timfinch7857_Her_ beliefs! Resist when the world tries to squeeze you into its linguistic mould!

Hey Luke, I think about interviews a lot and often wonder if I should have pushed more (or less) in certain circumstances. Thanks for weighing in.

@@SeanMcDowell Absolutely - really respect your work!

David Platt is a prime example of being elevated into leadership far too soon. Ideally a young man should spend several decades under the guidance of seasoned and wise men, lest he make a fool of himself and bring dishonor on Christ and his Church.

Curious why you would mention abortion? I’m not even a huge fan of Platt and yet even I know of the awareness he brings to the issue of abortion, and how he clearly teaches against it in his church.

@@PM-hh9ur I mean… respectfully, did you read my comment in its entirety? Platts problem is that he speaks/acts as though politics are dirty and don’t belong in the church, an yet even in the case of abortion, he fails to address the fact that it is massively driven by politics and who we choose to make our laws. The only time Platt openly speaks about political issues and their importance is when he is race baiting and drawing lines of societal division between his church members and leaders based on skin color.

Yes I love brag he has a variety of people and asks thought provoking questions

Agree :/

He never said only black people experienced those things bro

I agree, I feel like when the "justice" or "social justice" terms start being bandied about, we're ALL about to be shoehorned into any number of categories we don't belong in. Thank you for saying this, I'm SO tired of it all and the division it is causing everyone.

There is no way as a white person in the US that your experiences as a white person would be the same as that of a white person. One of my old pastors who is white once told me of his experiences living in Switzerland. He said he only experienced what it was like to live there as a black person when met a black congregant in a cafe he had been to before. The difference when now with a black person was that day he was treated differently. The white waitress was now sullen, grumpy, rude, and off hand. It is a form of racism when a white person is dismissive of experiences a person of another race has that are negative and clearly based on race. It is a form of partiality and a form of not loving your fellow man who God also created in His own image & whose sins Jesus also died for.

@@ifeifesi thank you for assuming my life ….

Where did he say that poor white people can't experience oppression too? He seemed to talk a lot about helping the poor in general.

Ok so what did the speakers say that you disagree with?

👏👏👏 Love what you said!

I am too am disappointed. I was hoping for more radical look into what the church is doing and holding that is American Christianity or Gospel. Instead, it went to issues.

That’s ironic, because I took this conversation as the very thing you’re talking about, progressing toward the sanctification of the church.

I attend Pastor David Platt’s church, and he preaches repentance from sins loud and clear every Sunday.

@@paxetgratia I don’t doubt it, but it’s critical that we always mention the word repentance when sharing the gospel. Very important.

The only sin you repent of to get saved is the sin of unbelief. (John 3:18)

@@JewandGreek The Bible says “repent and believe”. If you don’t know what to repent of go to the commandments, Lying, stealing, blaspheming, etc. We all have broken them. You repent of those and believe in what Christ has done for you, that’s how you become born again.

@@paxetgratia So what does Platt say we must repent of? Being white and not doing enough to fight racism? This is what I heard coming out of his mouth. So cringeworthy that I can't listen to him and his virtue signaling twaddle twaddle. 🤮

Ask them. During COVID, I talked to my former youth pastor about race for the first time, race from his perspective. It blew my mind. This man of God (a Bible-believing and God-fearing man) shared some deep things, like the fact that he is scared to put on his hood and go jogging outside because of the crazy instances of black men being shot. Reach out and have honest discussions with those around you who aren’t white, ask questions of race and what they experience.

​@@PM-hh9ur afraid to out on a hood and go jogging??? Are you serious? Some questions... * How do you know its imagined fears on his part and not reality? ( if you would actually look at the stats, you would see that more black people kill white people than whites kill black. It's almost 2 to 1) * Pattern recognition is not always racism. The fact of the matter is that there are thousands of hours of surveillance video on YT of black adolescents committing crimes while wearing hoodies. Please explain in detail why anyone should not rely on their God-given gift of pattern recognition to sense danger. * And are there other items of pattern recognition that people should jettison so that a suspicious person wo t be treated as a statistical anomaly? (Eg, a Hispanic with facial tattoos, a white homeless guy reeking of pot, etc) ....... It's true that you cant judge a book by its cover, but the fact remains that how a person presents himself speaks volumes. That's just reality, and theres no use in denying it. I'm sure you already know that upper class black people steer clear of other black people who dress down. Is that racism? Or pattern recognition? (For what it's worth, I'm not white, and I was born in Africa)

@@PM-hh9ur how many of the genuinely crazy instances of black men being shot are not by other black men?

@@conceptualclarity I mean, if it helps you sleep better at night...

Yes he is. 2018 race sermon maybe at T4G and 2020 BLM march with participation by Mitt Romney and ferocious race-hate sermon by Thabiti.

I’ve yet to meet and evangelical (not that that don’t exist) who’s wholeheartedly democrats (fully supportive on abortion, gender fluidity and transgender madness) that is on fire for reaching lost people and making discipleship.

It's possible because those issues are not salvation issues.

Do you attend a church where every single person votes Republican? Would you tell someone who you found out had voted Democrat that they needed to leave?

​@@gareth2736 we would sit down and have a heart-to-heart. I tried this with one person. He unfriended me and doesn't talk to me anymore, because he wouldn't let the chips fall where they may. He wanted a politician that would be more favorable to black people, even if it meant getting a politician that was more favorable to homosexuality, abortion, and a whole host of other evils. They were less important than lip service about benefiting blacks.

@@timffoster so if they hadn't unfriended you but hadn't changed their mind either what would you have done? Would you have agreed to disagree? Or would you have felt the need to break the friendship?

Yes, and if the church does it right, it just happens. It's part of the Gospel-- you don't need to bring it up constantly, much less make it a litmus test of Christian validity.

Agree, think there are lots about misunderstandings about those subjects. Also what 'unity' means (e.g. 'One in Christ')... People seem to be wanting to dump everybody in one big organization that then 'homogenizes'. Sounds more like a beast and a whore to me.

Douglas Wilson? I’ve tried to read his books on women and sex and he really preaches a false gospel. He doesn’t know what it means to be a man (biblically) and teaches quasi-heretical things. I’d steer clear but to each his own…

Endless WARS is number 1, its mass murder under bearing false witness. GOP lied about middle east, Russia, China to start wars

Simply well said

Absolutely. It is horrifying that we have turned so far from Jesus in order to make the Church "welcoming"- we've BECOME the world instead of shunning it as to remain as Righteous as is possibe. The most important commandment is NOT to preach the gospel, it is to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself". We are to love others, but their sinful ideology doesn't belong inside the Bride of Christ. We must deny the infiltration of the world and it's influence. We must stop the nonsense and the obsession with social justice, Critical gender and race theory, DEI and the prejudice of it all, and pursue a relationship with Him.

I think he is talking about different cultures.

@@ethanweber7976 sure, but skin color is not inextricable from culture. Most races are exposed to one culture most of their life. Why does that matter? He says it with guilt.

Why would that lose you? That’s silly. In Paul’s day there was clearly a divide between Jewish and Gentile Christians. Paul did not refrain from referring to Gentiles and Jews because of it. That’s childish.

@@PM-hh9ur No, whats childish is adopting the cultures language in defining what our christians look like. There are a numerous amount of differences between denominations and christians who are white. Breaking it down to white christianity is an over simplification. Does he means specific values, skin color? Can a black person be a white christian? Define the terms and stop speaking in the shadows similar to the identity marxist vernacular. Come to the table when you have your terms defined. This also is indicative of platt. He pandered to blacks during the pandemic and caved to the white privilege thing. Now he is rarely taken serious by the theologically conservative believer. Thats why he has lost me. But similar to his point I can get behind is that I am found in Christ so thats the starting point. Instead of calling my question childish, maybe take a crack as answering it and not deflect with a comparison that doesn't hold water.

His gospel is to believe and do justice, not repent and believe. False gospel, period. I believe he's always had a works-based false gospel, always wanted to be a false savior, has never been regenerated. That's what I got from the show. Thanks for speaking up. Please keep up the good fight. GB.

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It's a line people often cross when talking about Marxism. I often find that someone merely bringing up oppression will automatically be called Marxist. Marxism, CRT, Critical Theory, and Progressivism on one side has become the same as when the other side claims Racism, Wokeness, Transphobia and Homophobia. They've become terms in which people can twist words and make loose connections in order to shut down a conversation that their echo chamber doesn't want to have. It happens on both sides, but people tend to overlook the overgeneralization of the phrase Marxism. For example, a lot of people don't even know that the term "Woke" was a slang term in the black community that just meant calling out racism, but then it was hijacked to basically mean everything that Christianity teaches against, so LGBT, abortion, and the like.

Because he may have said he recognizes his white privilege, that means he is racist? That's not true. Acknowledging membership of a privileged ethnic group does not mean someone is racist... Help me understand

@@lkae4 This is a mischaracterization of the Gospel that Pastor David Platt preaches. I attend his church, and he has been faithful to preach the Gospel of Jesus every time I have heard him preach.

I don't get your point, please?

@Christiaan Paans , it means having our lives circle around a social or political idea, and applying that said idea to our Christianity instead of allowing Christ and His word to have our devotion and let the out pouring from Him frame our behaviors towards others. So if all our time is being spent at rallies and marches and we are spending our time in Scripture looking for ways to defend that particular position, then we are more focused on that position than God Himself. It becomes misleading and confusing. And pretty soon we are more concerned about winning a social battle than we are with spreading the gospel.

Christians should hate both of those. But (as I’m sure you’re aware), there’s a splinter in the American Church. Some want to only talk about racism, some want to only talk about abortion. American Christians cannot come to terms with both/and thinking.

You're quite right. People in urban areas think quite differently than people in rural areas. One size "sensitivity " does not apply.

Hope you liked it!

Yes! And Voddie Baucham!

I'm a member of this church. There was division in the church because some people didn't want any of our pastors to talk about race and they were upset about Black Lives Matter in general. None of the complaints had to do with apostasy or heresy, so why should we not listen to him?

@@tandyrichae6194 You definitely can. But the point of the original comment was to point out the hypocrisy of Platt's comments in the video. He used the pulpit to push left-wing ideologies (which you can be fine with. That doesn't mean you aren't a Christian). But Platt just told his congregants who disagreed that his conclusions were actually biblical to suck it up. So his comments in the video about creating a space where you can agree to disagree were laughably hypocritical.

@@ethanweber7976 I wonder what the left wing ideologies are that people think he was teaching? Seems like a lot of exaggeration going on here. But I would say that, by definition, "suck[ing] it up" is the practical application of "agree to disagree" Also of course Pastor David thinks what he's teaching is biblical. Otherwise he wouldn't teach it. legalism always leads to charges of Hypocrisy.

@@tandyrichae6194 He supports CRT, and this is entirely incompatible with the gospel. But that’s almost beside the point. Even if that were not true, he stood up and told bold face lies about the church’s affiliation with the SBC. He not only subverted the church’s constitution, but he shamelessly lied about it. Who does this? Wolves do this. He is NOT transformed by the renewal of his mind, that by testing he may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect…. Rather he is clearly conformed to the world. (See Romans 12:2). All of this should totally discredit him as someone worthy of a Christian’s listening to on matters of faith.

@@aforderhase he doesn't support CRT. And even if what you said is true and he lied about the church's connection to some other organization, that doesn't mean he isn't a Christian. All men fall short of the glory of God. All have sinned. There is no one who is good, no, not one. The SBC confirmed that our church isn't a member. tbh I really don't care about the politics of the church. Pastor David and our other pastors do their job. Which is to teach us the Bible and help us apply the Word.

Thanks for your comment. My former professor Nijay Gupta has written a new book with IVP called Tell Her Story that is relevant to the point you bring up about how “womanhood” is presented (currently in America) in the Church.

It sounds like you’re experiencing spiritual attack. You should push through and attend church.

@@justaguy653 Could be. More like overbearing legalistic preachers.

Yes. I do very much understand.

Yes agreed

You’d probably call Jesus woke.

Yes he is woke. Just sad…

@@ervinemiller1038 He’s as woke as I am black.

The Good News to be proclaimed is: The Kingdom of God is at hand. The hard work of Atonement for sins by perfect blood sacrifice of the spotless lamb of Jesus has been available for the taking by everyone since (especially) he came and lived a sinless life. (Examples of people who loved God before Jesus came too, we're just living on the finished side now) Bucket 1 he talks about is so important because, the Bible is clear about who God is, His Triune nature, and the Authority of Jesus as Christ. Marriage, abortion, and the equality of all people above the rest of creation is also clear (Bucket 1) it's going to be pretty hard to be in a church who sticks to these Biblical values openly and disagree on "Gospel" "Bucket 1" issues. Other big issues like How to go about daily and life as a country are important, but need to be free for discussion between believers. Bucket 1 - Salvation, nature of God, God's design. Bucket 2 - How we as people try to honor the implications of Bucket one in our homes and communities.

The simplest form of Gospel is, Jesus is God, LORD, uncreated and creator of the universe. He is the physical representation of the Father. His offer is to repent (change your mind) and believe this truth. This will lead Him to change you,and you will be drawn to seek Him and his word for your life, and the share. Anyone can understand the Gospel, and many do without ever knowing another person who has shared anything about Jesus, the Jewish God, or Western culture. It is so simple, even children and those who have disabled minds can understand. Premise 2 if your question is unnecessary for the Gospel

Amen. It's the attempt of keeping Jesus at home and only taking Him out on Sundays that, I believe, has caused so much tragedy within our families and our youth.

Yeah, I found the bucket concept confusing, myself.

Abortion is a result of ppl's contempt for God's commandments. Religious voters in the West believe that they can fight sin by voting because they don't believe Rom. 7:14 saying that God's commandments are spiritual. As long as ppl continue to sneer at the idea of obeying God's commandments, abortion is going to continue being an issue. No amount of human legislation is going to stop it, just like it hasn't stopped the explosion of violent crimes.

I am prolife and oppose both sides of the political spectrum.

James, that question hits to the heart of where Platt gets it wrong. If you are really pro-life than you have to be political. And it also means a Christian in good conscience cannot vote Democrat 95% of the time. Pastors need to have the guts to say this from the pulpit instead of saying, "good Christians can disagree on this. As long as we hold hands and sing kumbaya than we are faithful to the Gospel." I'm honestly sick of leaders giving lip service to pro-life while failing to denounce the politics driving it.

those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. Romans 8:30 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. Romans 9:16 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. Romans 9:18

Glad you liked it!

Say what you will about him, Platt has always been clear and consistent on the issue of abortion.

​​@@PM-hh9ur thought his articulation of pro-life was really powerful being based on understanding the value of the life in the womb from the psalm that speaks of God knitting the baby together in the womb. So many pro-life articulations sound more like angry political tribalism rather than love for the unborn and God's creation, so good to hear it expressed powerfully instead.

@@gareth2736 Well said

Hope you enjoyed!

​@@SeanMcDowell I did enjoy it. Pastor David is my actual Senior Pastor of my church. I don't always agree with his views on placing works based litmus tests out there for people to check whether they're really Christians or not. Sometimes it comes across as legalism. I am Black. I noticed that so many white people don't ever even think about their whiteness ever. White Americans don't even internally acknowledge that they belong to an ethnic group. It's hard for me to really understand that perspective. Being Black has little to do with skin color. It is an American ethnic identity. When we talk about being Black it's most of the time a reference to our shared culture and African heritage. It's crazy how taboo it is in White American culture to talk about something so natural for us. Anyway, thanks for having Pastor Platt on. ❤

@@tandyrichae6194 Many don’t like to cuz it makes them uncomfortable. I think it takes maturity to be ok with that label.

I pray you'll find a loving church full of His remnants. Voddie Baucham did a similar thing. Blessings

@@markclickovich5897 thank you, I'm hoping too! As long as we remember churches too are filled with imperfect people like us needing God's grace 🙏🏿

As I grow older I see how much churches around me are cold social clubs and even apostate. Still looking as don't want to grow cold b asleep at church because it's full of nice people. In the UK too

What brings all denominations together into one Body? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

As someone who was raised and lives in the South, I view the obsession with race sad and divisive. We are all God's creations and are equal in the eyes of the Lord.

Amen

Can you elaborate on how differently you see matters / racial issues ?

Could this be your sociology class trying to push conservative Christianity as a terrorist group? I guess I would be. Christian patriot as I vote Right and served my country in the Navy and I most definitely believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior!

@@KM-zn3lx It could possibly be 🤷‍♂This was my first time being introduced to something like this! However, its good to hear that you're still strong in your faith and thank you for your service in the navy!

I have found that people I know in this group is more open to the Gospel and easier to share with (except those who are into New Age religion). Not a scientific study, just what I have found.

What did he do at McLean?

Pastor David Platt preaches God’s word faithfully - I’ve listened to his sermons every Sunday for the past 4+ years. If he is “another woke Calvinist”, as you claim he is, then the Bible is woke Calvinist, too 😊

The GOP is also EVIL AF, so please get off the DemoKKKrat vs RepubliKKKan garbage, the other side is far more Satanic, they just act “Christian” on the surface like the Pharisees did