Can we all just appreciate that Mark makes the corrections and clearly states when he doesn’t know something. And can we all please be nice to one another. Errors just means we lack some information but being mean about someone not knowing is not ok.
On your last location at the Bakersfield depot, it's hard to hear the late 1980's mentioned in a historical context. The late 80's still feel very recent to me. haha
Funny about the line changes, SP made the same mistake going down Soledad cyn. In 1884 & 1886, the line got washed to sea so they moved in 1890 and finally settled on an alignment in 1945. Soledad has the same evidence as Ilmon as far as conduits and cuts...
It’s great that you’re setting the record straight since your videos will, no doubt, add to the historical records of this area. Good job. Filter generation will be grateful.
I read somewhere that many of the mileposts are off by a little bit on CP/SP/UP trackage. The article went on to say the reason for these discrepancies is that the railroad is constantly realigning track (most times just a curve but sometimes major diversions from the original ROW). Railfanning on the Donner pass and Feather River routs, I have found this to be true. In the past couple of years I have been trying to trace the original CP route across W Nevada and locate as many of the old stops, stations, spurs as possible. I've found a couple of old CP train timetable books (online) and using the MP information to move (on a map) to the next station. The MP number differs from book to book (different dates) and is only an approximation of where that station's remnants are found. The reason UP doesn't update the MP numbers is because those Control Points are used for every aspect of railroading. Updating every training publication and sign for every posted place would be costly and just add confusion (something NOT wanted in railroading). I plot these sites on Google earth and have found the MP numbers (used to be called Control Points) are in fact not accurate to the exact mileage on the grade. Good reference though :). thank you for your awesome videos. hopefully soon I can visit you at Tehachappi museum and buy you a danish 9hope that killer German bakery is still there :). Cheers
The mileposts on the Fresno and Mojave subs haven't changed since 1918. Everything is still where it has been since, but there have also been no major realignments since then. SP didn't use mileposts to designate control points, but just the name of the location (i.e. West and East Cliff, etc.). UP identified them by the nearest milepost. An example is West Rowen, at MP 345.1, became CPSP 345. East Rowen, at MP 346.8, became CPSP 347. Let me know when you are going to be in Tehachapi. Unless I already have other plans, I'll meet you up there even if I'm not on duty.
Enjoyed the video very much 🙂 I know it is out of your area but do you have any into on what is in the video by Hidden Arizona "Union Pacific's Gila Subdivision West Valley Sabotaged!" showing some odd things on UP's west LA line? Luv your content Thanks
Good video Mark. Even in making corrections you brought up something I didn't know that Sp at one time moved all of their mileposts. Thanks for shariing.
Hi Mr. McGowan, we my 2 oldest grandsons and i like your videos very much, I've got several friends that work for the BNSF, UP and one of guys said it might be wise to wear bright colors, t-shirts or vests for visibility, mark it as railfan, so we do, on kids i wrote FOA the other MER, say maybe you can help answer a question, where we live we have 2 main lines on the S.Side and 2 BNSF main lines to NW of us UP they have the mile post markers, but they also have the 1/4 1/2 3/4 the UP is the only carrier that I've noticed, BNSF doesn't at least down here in Texas. And they both have the X or W we know what they are for, i can't remember to ask one of guys when i see them, thought maybe you could help. Thanks for sharing, and if a person makes a misquote, then later corrects himself, well that's good, we all make mistakes.
I'm not sure what you're asking about, so I'll address them all. The fractions are the distance to the next mile post. X means a crossing is 1/4 mile distant. W is a whistle board used at tunnels, some low speed crossings (on branches or spurs) with a very short approach, an "island only" crossing circuit, or anywhere sounding the horn is deemed necessary. I hope that helps!
Mark! you have a cool channel and show me things I would never see and in most cases never knew existed about the RR or what ever you are shooting. I never make mistakes I just make corrections. Thank you for your time.
Did you know that the santa fe railroad at one time wanted to build their own line through the tehachapi mountains to avoid congestion with the southern pacific trains. They wanted to build that line through Gorman and other communities along the grapevine.
Yes. Their first survey, made in 1897, was through Arvin and up Tejon Creek Canyon into Tehachapi through Cummings Valley. They made two more in 1923 to the south. One leaving Bakersfield from their yard and along what later became the California Aqueduct alignment through Piru Gorge, and another departing at Sandcut, over the mountains and down through Elizabeth Lake Canyon. Cool stuff that went on back then!
We all make a few mistakes in life. At least you are mature enough to acknowledge that you made a mistake and corrected them. Just remember that out in the world some people know everything. Even when they know nothing. Keep up the good work Mark. I really enjoy the railroad history of the area in Southern California.
Great video Mark, how and where the railroads run there tracks is very intresting,also any kern County history, that you cover railroad or not is very intresting,thanks for all your work and happy new year
Mark I am looking to buy a handheld scanner for rail and air traffic. What model radio scanner do you use for rail fanning and does it also work for air traffic? If you had to buy a new scanner today what would you recommend?
I just have a UP radio, so I can't recommend a scanner, but I hear they're all pretty good. E-mail me and I'll give you the name of a subscriber whose specialty is radios and such.
Hey, we all make mistakes now and then... admitting to them and correcting them when possible is what counts (unless you're a friggin' politician, I guess...or a social media troll) 😹 Anyway, thanks for the updated info
According to "The History of the Southern Pacific" by Bill Yenne (1985), which I recently acquired, the change was made when SP moved its general offices from Townsend and 4th Streets to 65 Market Plaza in San Francisco.
Mark You should Do a Video on the San Fernando Tunnel and I know the San Fernando Tunnel is Far from Bakersfield California but there isn't much RU-vid Videos on the Ex SP San Fernando Tunnel Mark Just An Idea I love ❤️ Watching your RU-vid videos on Tehachapi Pass 💯💯💯💯💯💯❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
It's not really that far from here (about 100 miles), but I don't know what kind of access I would have on Metrolink property. It's a good idea though.
Mark, please don't get upset or go nutty on me - I"m only trying to help and offer you something to think about - 2 'other' rail fan sites - wide world of trains - 336k subscribers, and Jaw Tooth, 310k subscribers - and all that they do is to create videos of trains - I don't know if you have watched what they do - your subscribers should be up in the 300k range... I am one of your subscribers - and I like what you do, but clearly, your subscriber count if very low in comparison to others...no idea why...take care mark.
I wonder about that as well and have tried different approaches other creators have suggested, but it hasn't seemed to make much difference. Since I never even expected to have 16K subscribers, I guess I'm blessed with what I have. Thanks for the kind words and for checking out the channel!
Always great videos, thanks. To me, what sets your content apart from others is that you show more than just a passing train. To see the area, learn some history, and see track side equipment and structures and how they work and the derailment videos and related info is interesting/informative. Keep up the good work.
@@MarkClayMcGowan Take care Mark: I am a subscriber and I enjoy your info-mercials - I like the data associated with your videos. The other 2 (train sites which I mentioned) they don't talk about anything about the origin and the end point of trains - Sometimes, Jaw Tooth uses a speed gun - but that's about it, as far as 'other' things that they do. Take care Mark..
Opinions are Like A**holes, Everyone has One. 🤪👎 People with Dumb Corrections should Start their Own RU-vid Channel and we can then be Critical to him. 🤪👎
I have been subscribed to his channel for a long time and saw this when he published it. It's simplified, but that's okay, it's still a pretty good video for someone who's never worked in the signal department (or even for the railroad), and he makes it easy to understand, as he does with most subjects.
