"NOT WHAT I EXPECTED AT ALL..." - 12 Handicap Driver Fitting with a Funky Result.... 

Very refreshing to see a fitting where the distances aren't 300+! Thanks for sharing 👍

Thank you for showing a golfer that represents the greatest portion of golfers instead of the usual 1% guys who swing 110 mph+. This gent is like what I see on all the golf courses I play. Not the 110 mph guys.

Very encouraging, which is why I’m driving 2.5 hours to see you for a fitting! Most thorough fitting I’ve seen by far.

Nice to see a fitter who is really interested in the customer first and not just trying to make a quick buck. You took the time to figure out what was best for him, most other fitters won’t do that. This is probably the main reason why most of us amateurs avoid trying to get fit, most of the fitters are more interested in making a sale and trying to up-charge you than what best for the customer. It’s really difficult finding a fitter you can trust. Cheers.

Great fitting. Lots good information here. Thanks for sharing!

Very informative, I didn't think that so many variables, could make such a difference ! Thank you !

Absolutely delightful to see your patience and thinking out of the box to maximize the distance. I wish more fitters have the same mindset as you...

What a great fitting video of you trying everything to make it the best driver shaft for the client

Great fitting. Good job!

That chap has a really nice swing - very rhythmical and nice to watch - good job all round

So much to learn here… thanks for sharing

Awesome to watch this fitting! Really shows the creativity and experience you can offer, with some visible results shown too. Very in depth, tailored process, which is exactly what you want when making a larger purchase on some new gear. Would be great to see some more of these 😄

More of these please!

This was very educational. Being able to see the launch monitor data to compare to this gentleman's swing and ball flight helped me better understand what a fitting is all about. Your progress in finding a setup for the customer brings me hope. I will be having a fitting soon and now have a much better understanding of what to expect and how to "read the numbers". Thanks a lot!

A good fitting does wonders. Biggest thing I get from a fitting and, to a lesser extent a gapping session, is how much I learn about my swing and my strike. So not only will a good club fitting make sure you’ve got the right tools for you, it also gives you some pointers to take to range. 👍

Great Video!! I just watched two of your videos fitting players with similar SS (around 90mph) and very interesting to see the same conclussion, a much lighter head than standard (weight removed) worked much better. I'll take this and experiment more with swing weight on my fittings. Thank you

Great video ..I am just a bit faster swing .. so the test was great very surprised about taking out the weight made a huge difference.. fantastic job ..I would buy that one!

Such a great fitting you provided! I've been fit by a few different places and I felt all were good, but you went FAR beyond the call of duty! Well done.

I am such a golf nerd. I have been self fitting for a few years. I loved watching the development of this fitting as I think the player learned a lot about what he is doing and how much influence that has. We all love to try and switch out clubs but when something works, stick with it. Great video :)

Very interesting, thank you. It's good to see a video with someone with similar stats to my own. I'm due for a driver fitting in a couple of weeks, and this gives me a good idea what to expect. If I can get to 230-240, that would be fantastic.

Best fitting video I’ve seen!

Best fittings on RU-vid. You can charge for lessons and fitting. Your patience and experience are extraordinary. If you were in the midwest United States, I would send all my friends to pay for a REAL fitting. I think there is an untapped market fitting second hand clubs. Pay similar amount as new club, but get benefits via lesson(s) and proper fit. Could be a popular theme to see if you get better results with older equipment. If 20+ yards, golfer trades his newer stick for old straight up. If no improvement, lesson is free. 😊

That was very good, too see what you had to go thru to get there.

Emjoyed this. Thinking of coming back in to get driver done. Irons still working despite my worst efforts

Definitely need to come back and see you guys for a tune up 👌

Looking forward to my driver and iron fitting next week. It might well be worth filming as I feel like many of your other subscribers will resonate with the same issues I'm facing

It’s great to see how much time you spent in order to get the best combo.

As someone who rarely finds the center of the club face, I was impressed with the gentleman’s consistency and smoothness of his swing. His swing speed was almost always between 89 and 92 mph. The changes you made to reduce ball spin produced good results. If I could get more consistent, I might benefit from a club fitting, but for now, I think the results wouldn’t be very meaningful. Excellent video.

Nice swing!

Great vid 👏 keep it coming 👍

Awesome session...with a regular golfer. I've about the same SS 92mph, Ball Speed 135.1, launch 12degree, backspin 2800, carry 208 total 239yds with Rogue ST 9.0 set at +2/D Tensei Blue AV Series 55 Flex-R.... where in the video did it switch to the Tensei Blue AV. Thank you A+++++

Great video. Love a good custom fit 👍

One of the best fittings I’ve seen. I have been fitted a few times for a driver but never ever in that depth, never managed to see the results on the course that I would expect. Handicap has risen this year as main problem is that I can’t get off the tee, craving a fairway finder. Are all of your fittings that in depth or was that more than you would usually do? Would consider being fit in the same way but live a distance away in north wales, thanks

Do more of this please.

Great fitting, well done! Let me ask you this the most common thing about the fitting was the PATH. Path is king and club face QUEEN, since he was constantly { out to in} why didn't he stand OPEN to the line and just hit it high on the face! HE is trying to hitting draw with face open to the line and that will not work! Thank you for posting!!

Very refreshing. I just got fitted and ended up with different brands in my bag. Callaway driver, cobra 3,5 wood, Mizuno irons, Titleist 56, Taylor high toe lob. Odyssey O works putter. Even my shafts were not off the rack. Very happy with the results.

Great video. Wish I could drive that consistency and I'm a 7HC!

Geddon uncle 🤙 nice strikes

Toll, ein Test mit einem normalen Golfer. Very Good !!

Great work Ross, looking forward to my return visit tomorrow and hope you can work your magic on me

Great vid. Great fit 👍👍👍

As others has stated, you are doind a stellar and patient job in this fitting. I love the process and the reasoning you are also sharing. This looks and feels like a proper fitting should! 👍 I know the weight removal got the strike point in a much better place, so in that respect, removing the head weight improved the point from where forgiveness would be needed compared to the low strikes with the weight in. Still I'm just wondering what the removal of the head weight does in terms of potentially losing native head forgiveness, as weight distribution in the head so often is said to have an impact on that?

Excellent Content !!

It's amazing what you can do when you are trying to help the golfer improve instead of fitting him to a certain brand of club. Good on you.

Interesting content. You certainly found something that help a lot but I would have also put him on a tee that was 1/4" - 1/2" taller because his swing is very consistent and never had a high strike.

Excellent video, and exactly what 95 % of all golfers are looking for and are interested in. Regarding the gentleman's swing, which is just a touch slower than mine, I now feel extremely lucky that my natural tendency is to hit it higher and towards the toe. He is so consistent, but unfortunately consistent with a strike pattern, which makes it tougher for him.

I definitely need to look into this next year. I've been using a driver which was fit for me when really I was a beginner. I'm swinging it a little bit faster now but I have become a lot better player and it was two years ago I got fit. All the other clubs in my bag I'm really confident with and the driver I just seem to be all over the place.

really helpful, Apart from clubhead speed (I do 92-93) Geraint does a carbon copy of my own swing, including its misses :-)

Genuinely interesting video. Good on the customer (sorry forgot his name) for being able to relatively put the same swing on it consistently. At my handicap (19) I would find it difficult to not change it based on the outcome.

A good fitting for the average golfers. Thank you

That was outstanding, I'm wondering how long that Person was there? Also he didn't seem to get tired . He was very very consistent his misses certainly didn't seem real bad. GREAT JOB I wish Elite Performance Golf was in my home town , I would definitely get fitted by this person.

Really interesting. My own fitting with you we landed on TSR3 head 8.75 deg without the weight. I wasn't in a position to buy then, but i used the information gathered in the fitting to play around with my SIM2. I've bought a back weight which is approx 8 grams less than standard and added a counter balanced shaft. Massive difference! I really struggle with the back weights they put in drivers now. I understand why they do it for extra forgiveness and gear effect, but i get super spinny and struggle to square the face. The new Paradym standard is the worst for me, where the weight at the back is too extreme because of what they have saved elsewhere with the 360 carbon head. I note this gentleman struggled with the Paradym also, probably the same reason. I'll be coming back soon for another test against my revised gamer spec 👍 I'm keen to see how the TSR3 compares now.😂

Absolutely brilliant fitting, I'd argue that gains like this, are more important/significant, because at his speed, literally every yard counts. Super impressive fitting 👏👍

Excellent!

Brilliant 👍👍

Agree with others it’s useful and interesting to see this kind of golfer. He has a good swing, keeps it in the fairway. I’m 82, been playing over 60 years, 17 hdcp, have about the same driver statistics carry 195 to 215, total distance 215 to 235. Going back and forth between three drivers just for variety: Callaway GBB Epic Sub Zero 10.5 with Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 5 R-1 flex 54 grams; Tour Edge Exotics C722 10.5 with Fujikura Ventus Red non Velocore R flex 54 gram; XXIO black 2021 model 10.5 with Miyazaki AX-1 shaft flex IFC 4333 47 gram. Never buy new, look for prior models in mint condition. Callaway was $279, Tour Edge $100, and the XXIO $252.

Ross, like you mentioned an interesting final build spec. You could have achieved this in a different way using a balanced certified counter weight, that way you could have maintained driver head weight. Certainly would have been interesting to compare the performance between the two techniques.

Great fitting very thorough. Just a thought, if he teed it up lower would that eliminate the low in the head strikes?

Fascinating move with the weight. When you take out the 8 gram weight what do you use to close the hole? Assume just a disc would be at least 1 gram. Surprised to see the loft at just 8.75 degrees. That’s what some tour pros with high swing speeds use. Most of us seniors have been moving from 9.5 degree heads to 10.5 degrees.

Great fit and love all the additional insights shared in the comments. I got driver fitted in 2022 after 30 years of playing off the shelf. Went in wanting G425 but hated the heavy head and counterbalanced shaft. Came out with 9* TSi2 Tensei Blue 55S and love it. The shaft feels so stable vs my old Cleveland driver with stock 55R and I hit a lot more fairways now due to more consistent strike. Curious if you played around with weight in the heel to try to improve the face rotation and mitigate the weaker fades?

This poses an interesting question. Is there any point in a beginner/high handicapper getting fitted for a driver or indeed a set of clubs. If they aren't swinging as good as they ought to be? I've been playing just over 6 months and the difference between me and this guy is he's more consistently straighter than I am and plays off 12 where as I'm starting at around 28. I normally hit the ball as far as he was near the end but my misses are more dramatic either a ball that fade/slices 10-15 yards right or an absolute bomb ( by my standards) that just goes straight left 20-30 yards off target. I would love a fitting but more to get an Idea of whether I'm using a driver that's suitable for me as I'm sure I could hit the ball better than I do now as I improve. I'm still working on building a neutral swing so that I can draw and fade the ball when I want. The straight left misses are me trying to draw the ball and over doing it. Where as the fade is me trying to hit it harder to go more than the 130mph ball speed and 205-215yrd carry that I seem to be stuck at with total distance of 228-233 yards I doesn't seem realistic to my wallet to arrive with my £50-£60 eBay driver and leave with a £600 driver that I can hit 30 yards further. My goal ( as I'm in my late 50s) is to be able hit my driver (further than I hit my 3 wood) consistently in the fairway and carry the ball 230+ yards with a total distance between 240-250yrds

I'm only 12 minutes in , but do you ever adjust tee height to help with strike?

Great informative video. Wonder if slightly higher tee height might have raised strike on head.

Hello. Very interesting fitting, good job. Could you please tell what the swingweigth was with 8 gr and without the weight? I was very surpsrised by the result but it just proved that you knew what you were doing👍

Nice to see a fitter doing the right thing. In particular not advocating the most expensive sort of shaft. It was also interesting that a TSR3 was the go. Just shows again, go to a proper fitter not a big box store. I was horrified recently at the driving range where a 75 year old next to me with a slow swing had been sold a AUD1,000 plus anAUD1,000 SHAFT . The loft had been set to 8°. I offered to go back to the big box shop with him and sort it out. Unfortunately he did not want to make waves.

I'm half way through and wondering why not suggest lowering the tee height 0.25-0.5 inches lower or a tiny bit farther back in his stance to help improve point of contact?

Very interesting fitting. Thanks! I have the same speed but I am very sensitive to the head weight. I have a Rogue ST and I feel that it drives me over the top.

I wonder if mine will be this in depth on Saturday or you just think there’s no hope. 😊☺️

Why did you not play with his tee height? He was consistently in the low center so it just seems logical to bring his tee height up. Just curious. Enjoyed watching his journey.

Very interesting. Would have liked to have seen him hit the paradym x head. Or some type of sft. Or ping g430 with the weight in the heal. Just could have cancelled that fade? Cheers

Do you take into account the effect of tiredness (mental and physical) with hitting so many balls?

Brilliant

hey mate... I'm a rank crappy amateur who goes range and maybe a low end public course now and again.. a few times a year. Bought a basic entry level Wilsons quite a few years ago (£250 all in inc Bag!!). Is it better to get my swing sorted first and then get a fitting with a "proper" set of clubs?

Watching .. Hitting better with the Black Tee and lower in the face with the Orange one .. Are they the same length ??

Hi, Would love to come down for a fitting. Do you expect a driver purchase post fitting? I generally buy a year old driver as they are half that of the current model. Rogue ST MAX LS is what im looking at moving too, from my Epic Flash Sub Zero which I have hated since I bought it.

Ball looks really fwd. Did you try him off a larger tee to bring the stroke up?

Angle of attack is good but contact is always low on the head. Move the ball back a couple inches to catch the middle the face, or tee the ball higher to hit higher up on the face.

That’s a great deal of balls to hit normally. Got to tire sometime.

did you guys change the tee height at the 19:15 mark ? looks like he went from orange to a black tee.

I am gaming a cobra Ltd - ls , @ 43 3\4 with 2 14 gram weights on head, comes in at D-0, It's a absolute bomber and fairway finder, also have a 14 gram counter balance weight on butt end !!

Very accurate with old driver new one around €500 for 10 to 12yds gain seemed less accurate as well € 50 per 1yd . If you fancy a changed well done.

Wonderful fitting, to bad you are across the pond from me.

I added weight to my TSR2 to bring it to D4, 6'5" and 270lbs helps, even at 63.

Seeing that the chap swung better with a lighter head, was the TSR1 put into the rotation and if so what were the summed up results?

Very interesting video, I’m now thinking of having a fitting done. How much would one cost?

I have watched two of your amazing fittings for slower swing speed golfers - Meg and now this chap. Why do you seem to favor an upright lie angle on drivers?

Did you change the tee height to get the strike higher on the club face?

I’d love to see a ball or driver fitting where the same ball and driver is used at 70, 80, 90,100,110 mph swing. Would be interesting to see the results.

Best moment of whole vid is 25:09 😂😂😂

I have a TSR free. Could you explain exactly what weight you changed in the head. Thank you.

Thank yoy

TSR3 coming up clutch again! Wondering if you had him hit a ventus blue lightweight regular???

Surely moving the ball slightly back in his stance would help with the strike?

Just wondering why you didn’t tee the ball higher since his hits were all low on the clubface but he was so consistent.

Halfway through video and waiting for this Geezer to hit 10.5° head

Great video with a great results. Shame you’re so far away 😢

How come you didnt try ping g430 or the stealth range with him? Great insightful video tho. I play of 5 at 59 yrs old and im gettin paranoid of my speed and distances. No fun gerrin old!😢😅

What difference in swing weight did taking the 8 gram weight out of the head, i tend to hit low on the face with my TSI2 driver and wondering if the D4 swing weight may be an issue for me also? Great session.

With so many low face strikes any reason why didn’t suggest raising the tee slightly during the session ?

Great video. Why didn't you try any Taylormade heads? Just curious.