*"Shower upon man every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, so that nothing but bubbles of bliss can be seen on the surface... and even out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick."* - Fyodor Dostoevsky Support this channel: www.patreon.com/eternalised RU-vid Member Perks: ru-vid.com/show-UCqos1tl0RntucGGtPXNxkkAjoin Donate a Coffee: ko-fi.com/eternalised PayPal: www.paypal.com/paypalme/eternalisedofficial Official Merch: eternalised.creator-spring.com
In my opinion, one of the best videos I’ve watched on RU-vid. I really love how Dostoyevsky is able to write, the complex thoughts of the Charakters, on paper.
Even though whenever we talk about Dostoevsky, we sorta feel this heavy and grim atmosohere such as in the video, I actually think his writing is humourus and witty, especially when his character argues for pages long. I can hear the small crackle when you talk about the overcoat part.
I did feel it has some humour as well! Mainly, I think to counterbalance the Underground Man's ("Crawlspacer") general attitude throughout the video. I think Dostoevsky does a good job balancing it out, although afterall the root of the message is quite allegorial and critical of his time.
And I don't why, but I also find most of his work giving me hope and a sense of calmness, like in the case of Raskolnikov's, yes , he does go through a lot , but in the end he learns to live...
Great video on a great book. Love your own extra insights and facts (mind blown with that crawlspace point that makes so much sense) I love this book though it's definitely an uncomfortable read. I really don't know how Dostoevsky had the nerve to write it it's so painful to read the Apropos and how he behaves with the old schoolfriends and the lady. It really hurts and I guess it's as he says he saw through the whole way what I couldn't even go half way towards
Thank you! Glad you found that part as mind-blowing as I did. It is an interesting read albeit uncomfortable, perhaps because I do sometimes find myself relating to some of the Underground (Crawl-space) Man's experience. Dostoevsky is truly a great psychologist!
@@Eternalised Absolutely. I think you're right it's that that aspect lives inside me and I actively avoid acting out (or even consciously finishing the thoughts of) those petty and cringy things he does. It's genius because of the nerve it takes to stare into that uncomfortable darkness of the soul and bring to light what most of us try so hard to hide or suppress. The truth is that this crawlspacer (as I'm going to call the underground man from now on!) bleeds into our lives unless we are fully aware of him and you've got me thinking how aware of mine I am....it's good shadow work if you think about it; the fact that the book is uncomfortable shows that it's on to something important
I read this book as a comedy. Was it intentionally funny as a black comedy, illustrating the Underground Man's ridiculousness, or did I grossly miss the point?
I found it funny at times too. I think that was intentional, and most likely people would've found it very comedic when it was first published in 1864. However, now - seeing how society has developed with these Utopian ideologies, I think it's more allegorical.
Dostoevsky was super interesting, Im very happy you make videos of him since I definetly want to learn more about him and his works. Also your videos are very simplistic and it formally explains everythin well in 10 minutes, very awsome job! Your videos just keep getting better, Great Video!! :)
This is great! - and it pleases me well that it has only one unlike. People are acknowledging the deep truth of man's ironic attachment to distress in modern life. This work is more relevant than ever! Bravo!!!
Well History seems irrational, because we only know the history of conflicts and we know next to nothing about peace time since history pages are empty in those segments from the past which in most cases are the most rational where the peace and prosperity was thriving.
Absolutely. There are tons of conflicts compared to the enlightening ideas of history, maybe that's human nature. Perhaps "happier times" or Utopian societies are the root of the problem. Nowadays though, there have been much more peaceful and effective movements, although the Utopic dream is still there.
@@Eternalised It certainly is there and we might even lived it already who knows we only left with scraps of the massive puzzle so to put it together is next to impossible now we only can guess.
The first time when I read this book ,I felt strangely drawn to fyodor dostoevsky and the underground man I recommended this book to my friends but they complained that they didn't really understood his work and left it after reading few pages I just wanted to aware everyone here that this generation is not admiring the great works and they are just wasting the precious moments of life in aimless scrolling on social media
It takes patience to read it, I just finished the book yesterday and after recollecting my thoughts I watched this video, tbh it was my first book ye my first book I ever read as I am 16y/o it took me 1/2 an year to read it but now I finally did, tbh at first I didn't like it as it was complex and seems to server no purpose but a monologue of a distressed man but as I moved forward with life and the book too I eventually get to know more about the nature of Underground man and the reasoning behind his extreme actions, he is basically an experiment rat of himself to whom he was exercising his ideals of Freedom or free will and let those actions run through which indeed proved to himself, it's a notes from an hyper conscious man or fly as he described himself which indeed goes to any Limits just to be him, which indeed we all are it's just no one likes to address that, the way he explained the joy in one's pain/toothache is the perfect example of it. All and all he is very complex character and definitely it takes time and patience to understand the Authors true intentions, but definitely I am looking forward to read more of his works....
I don't understand why his phrase "twice two is four" not highlighted by any critique, i presume, it is the boldest question he raised, striking right on one's freedom over rationalism or one's very existence.😅😅
You ever catch my video on nihilism? Im trying a thing where i emphasize it as not inherently pessimistic (trying to get people to use it less as such) either way, great upload
Hey, I enjoy your content a lot, but sometimes I see you nearing an "edge" so to speak. Some of this sounds like it would be easy to take too far - like the concept of "learned helplessness." If suffering is seen as inevitable then a creature will eventually stop fighting its oppressors "people or otherwise." Sometimes it is all that CAN be done against certain oppressions, which Dostoevsky is wise to see, but often I think humans try to generalize ideas past their usefulness. Fighting for a better world is worth the struggle and I think that is very important to remember nowadays.
Yes I agree with you, if you take the concept too far then it implies people should just let their oppressors walk over them. This of course is not a solution to problems facing mankind. But you have to admit that some people, such as the Underground man, get a satisfaction from suffering to a degree (this is true more broadly in people). The person who enjoys BDSM doesnt actually want to be a slave for a master, but gets a kick out of feeling submitted to another person. I am not one to judge. I dont think its good to always think of the extreme example of something, its a but like reducing a political debate to talking about Hitler. But this is what I like about this channel, its that he is not taking it to the extreme example, but just exploring the nuance, sometimes backwards nature of the human condition.
And now we have a huge chunk of society living as crawlspace people. Unable to fill the basic needs of connection with others or material stability. Where next modern man?
You made me download the book, it's 2 am and I'll read it tomorrow. Your description sounds like my vicious circle I found myself now. Thank you so much
The American neoconservative ideology derived from Dostoyevsky. I only realize it now but there is so much American and Russians have income…this obsession whit ultimate freedom almost to a point of breaking regality itself Late in 19th century when Russia was undergoing a tremendous transformation Dostoyevsky wrote this…Wich had a big impact on all of Europe especially on Germany where idea of conservatism and free William mutated into Nazism even stalinsim
I read this but didn't think much of it. He's a bad co worker, employee and friend, and then gets up the hopes of a fallen woman only to be mean to her. I mean, it was fine, but after listening to this, I'm confirmed in my feelings that it was kind of a blah-level story. A better one was "The Gambler," which was good enough, but not great.
If all you see is the surface of the story then sure, yeah it's not that good, but the thing is it's deeper than that. It's not really about his story, it's a character study, an analysis on a damaged man's psyche. Personally it blew my mind the first time I read it, the whole philosophical section was so awesome. It gave me some personal insight and led me on a journey of self exploration, discovery and growth. I guess it all comes down to different strokes for different folks.
