Fist up , the early wake exercise.. it out in cold or etc. has always been most grounding and mind freeing . Right before dawn in somewhat cold air and I cannot explain the hopeful , exhilaration. It truly is a gift to feel that.
I’m in an area of Australia that does get cold in winter , probably not the extreme you experience, I started doing the cold showers every morning during summer and I found it quite refreshing, but man it’s a different experience now in winter , it actually hurts 😂
The problem with mine is how bad it stings, it feels like individual needles. Getting in a cold body of water is much more doable at any level of cold for me.
My pool from around November to May, straight after waking up (05:45) and drinking a litre of water i take a dip (06:00), then head off to the gym (07:00). By 08:00 I'm ready for the day.
I do the same thing but work out 2x a day lol I’m never tired. There is 1 thing that no one is talking about I figured it out. It’s way better than a cold plunge
@@xrayded5037 Depending on what training program I'm following (I change completely every 8 -12 weeks) I might split a session so say strength and conditioning push in the morning and pull in the evening for 35 minutes each session,
I take a old plunge minimum 3 times per week. I experience, that the surge of dopamine will flattens somewhat after doing this very regularly. I do it mainly to refresh after long endurance exercise. And it works, so I stay at that regime. regularly.
Glad to hear that since I‘m experiencing that too rn… I feel like I got addicted to the feeling and the cold even tho it still gives me chills but it’s just refreshing and way less uncomfortable than in the beginning.
To get over the wall I just close my eyes and do 4/8 count breaths and by the 10th round Im not feeling any walls until maybe somewhere between 20 and 30 rounds of 4/8 breathing. It works out to be about 5-6 minutes in the water, 4 counts in, 8 counts out s 20-30 breaths.
anecdotal here...i do CWS at 38-59 F 4-5 times per week and i can tell you that it contributes to weight loss 100%. Also, great for brain for and energy for 4-8 hours. May or may not help me sleep better. I realize there is a study that shows it doesnt do much for weight loss, but i must say it leans me out big time. Calories is a measurement of kcal (heat)...thus burning calories. On the flip side, it increases my appetite. All mentioned benefits especially evident if i warm up w/out naturally and without a hot shower. Only keep hands in water a % of the time (it just hurts) and always wear socks (just enough thermal barrier to be effective from toes on fire). Tightens skin too. It sucks every single time, but as Joe Rogan said...if they sold a CWS pill at convenience stores, it would fly off the shelves.
guys.. fasting, working out, intense learning, intense exercising etc. - all the same.... u experience pain temporarily then relief for a while from that pain. For example, when u work out or fast both are the same essentially, ur body is lacking nutrition and begins the autophagy process (very healthy for you). You don't need to think of cold plunge, exercise, fasting etc. as Gods. Choose one or two u like (u dont need to do cold plunge for ex. if its too cold) - all the bnefits are the same. Temporary stress for longevity. Mental, physical, doesn't matter, it's like a law.
isn't this natural, because bathing in an icy stream has always been our option ? Makes sense to have a spike in these things, so we don't stay in the water and die ? cold water = life what's the first scientific paper you'd read on this ?
I'm not a doctor But I've seen a lot of doctors speculate that parkinsons comes from brain inflamation and cold therapy does help to fight inflamation so my guess would be: ABSOLUTELY YESS
Its incredibly important to know that the study Huberman mentions here is for plasma concentrations of dopamine. Plasma dopamine stays in our periphery and does not access our brain as it cannot cross the blood brain barrier. This makes plasma concentrations of dopamine a useless biomarker for the mental benefits he talks about. While the feel-good psychological effects of cold exposure are obvious to anyone who has tried it the direct relationship between CNS dopamine and cold exposure is very limited. Although this isn't the way Huberman portrays it.
Huberman's views on dopamine, dopamine fasting, dopamine stacking etc. have basically been called pseudoscience by actual experts. He's full of sh*t on the subject and keeps quoting single studies or misrepresenting studies. And I wonder what the effect of having five girlfriends is on the dopamine levels in your brain? Or using PEDs?
Surely activating the sympathetic system would release dopamine in the brain too? Cold plunges have such a profound effect on frame shift that surely this is the case.
@@tomikomo Huberman's nonsense about dopamine has been discredited by experts. He does this all the time - cites one study, doesn't mention the limitations of it, extrapolates wildly etc.
@@squamish4244 yea huberman is a joke. In response to the plasma dopamine etc etc, id posit regardless of its inability to cross the blood brain barrier, individuals practicing this do obtain dopamine benefits for the same reason i get dopamine spikes after i clean my house, the cold water may not necessarily have anything to do with it, although in my opinion the cold water isnt a placebo (as is shown by the high plasma dopamine which a control is doubtful to replicate) and in some way or another, whether it be the plasma dopamine breaking down into arginine/L-Dopa/glutamine or some precursor that does cross the BBB, it provides some of these benefits
Could something like this benefit someone with Parkinson’s? Since People with Parkinson’s have low dopamine levels? I have PD and have been intrigued about cold plunges. Would love to hear your thoughts on this?
look into carnivore diet and parkinsons, I think there have been several cases documented on RU-vid where it helped a lot (I hope I didn't get it mixed up with Alzheimer's! Hard to say it's too many videos)
Not quite a cold plung but get some of the effects. Showering after workout in the summer and by the time I got to the car I’m sweating again. So at the end of the shower I turned the shower as cold as it would go. Very restorative especially for achieving joints.
I have a small pool in my garden. During the winter is is ridiculously cold but by April it is just bearable to get in. I go in every single day until late September when it is too cold again. It is generally between about 10-12 degrees C. I stay in for about 5 minutes. A bit of underwater swimming. It`s not particularly painful but does me so much good. I don`t think it needs to be freezing just cold enough to be 'zinging'.
Indeed there have been studies on this, also from a less scientific point of vies for instance Wim Hof I believe puts the barrier at around 14 C for a couple minutes.
@@michaeldepaikel That makes sense. If my pool warms up a few degrees the zinging feeling isn`t as powerful. If it was freezing I just couldn`t bare to go in. Maybe body fat makes a big difference, too.
So I have a big question and I really hope Dr. Patrick will answer this.. when we are talking about getting these huge bumps in dopamine and norepinephrine - do people with ADHD and/or depression still get the same response, or is it diminished due to the nature of those conditions?
I don't believe anyone has studied that. The study he refers to is actually pretty small as well, if IIRC. I do the ice cold showers bc I have the exact response he's talking about, though, not bc a study says it works. It's insanely effective for ADHD, in my experience.
@@4ourthofjuly wow! I've read so many bad comments on it, I was almost done searching for a good one. Now that I read yours, I'll give it a try! Awesome to know it works for you. Thanks 👍
I have cold showers every morning before I dress , and saunas 3 times a week . All up , probably around 15 mins a week cold showers and 1 hour a week in the sauna . I find the cold much tougher , I actually enjoy the sensation of a good sweat but the cold I don’t enjoy at all but it feels good when I stop 😂
@@DanielosVK he has to make it out to be done big ordeal otherwise nobody would watch his long speeches but none of this is as big a deal as he makes it seem
Sounds like you got your Ph.D. in Neuroscience from the University of California, Davis and completed your postdoctoral training at Stanford University and the University of California, Berkeley. Wait nvm Andrew did that and you sound like an idiot.
I teach to make your mouth small like drinking Through a straw and enter the cold on a long exhale and keep breathing with focus on strong long exhales
Just started 10 days ago. Working down to low 40's. Honestly, so far, no change whatsoever on dopamine or energy. Coming from someone who is already exercising daily and in good cardiovascular shape. It may be because i haven't been in long enough yet at a colder temperature. Or this is all a sugar pill and my body isn't buying into it. 🙂
Cold showers are nice, if your body can handle them safely, and they make a lot of people feel good, but they are also not as amazingly powerful as many people who take them like to claim. They help a little bit. People act like they give you superpowers. Almost nobody would watch a 3 hour podcast episode without some overextrapolated protocol that sounds like a total game changer.
wasnt it a study on rats that showed cold exposure was cardio and nephrotoxic ? if i need a crdio and kidney killer stimulant im just gonna do amphets lol
Oh yes the myth of cold plunges. Scant evidence with questionable study methodology. Other studies show it has the opposite effect. Hurting recovery ability from exercise like weight lifting.
It's not a myth. Just don't do it straight after your workout if you want to gain muscle as cold shower reduces inflamation and inflamation is necessary to muscle growth.
Different things, he just says at the beginning of the video that some athletes do it before workout, and there are studies that prove that hot exposure is good after exercise cause promotes good blood flow. So is not a myth
@@max801 nope equally as many studies show cold therapy has a host negative effects on bodies ability to recover. All the huberman cult zealots really getting riled up i would suggest actually studying the research instead of blind-fully adhering to what your favorite youtube cult leader tells you.
I've been doing cold showers for two years now. If they didn't make me feel so much better do you think I would be torturing myself for 5-10 minutes a day. My guess is you're not mentally tough enough to try it.
lol this is my suspicion as well. I never see advocates of this practice point to any RCTs on actual human outcomes, or even epidemiological evidence. It's always anecdotal hype. There's a lot of real evidence for sauna benefits; I literally can't find any for cold plunge.
@@goodstuff7786 It's better to invest in people that are good and positive and make a better impact on the world as a whole as to support someone like him with the recent controversy in mind. Dr. Patrick and Huberman are good example. I would so much rather support her.
