3D mode is so you can view a video file with “side by side” 3D video already encoded into it. That’s why Riley could see half the screen in one eye, and the other half in the other.
@@thelichisdeath Fun fact! "mister Obvious" is referring to a specific method of encoding stereoscopic 3D into a single video stream used in the era of consumer 3D TVs, not just the general concept of stereoscopic video (notably, side by side 3D was used at the same time as over and under 3D encoding, only one of which would work in the 3D mode in these glasses)
@@bosstowndynamics5488 who is Mr obvious? Like genuinely who, did they delete their comment, or are you patronizing someone? Ohh, missed you tagging lich, I didn't see that originally, I'm blind Also over and under and side by side doesn't fully explain the fact that the headset would still need to be encoded for video with 180fov* where tvs use a regular 19/10 ratio with a offset view for 3d. I assume the headsets 3d mode is for 180fov vids cause it's what most vr "videos" are filmed at and would make it easy to view these "videos" that their customer base would likely use the headset for.
Riley as someone who has done a fair bit of development with a variety of AR glasses, I'd recommend testing these devices outside to see how they perform in natural sunlight. These products are often promoted with images of people using them as they walk down the street or sitting on a park bench. In reality, on a bright day, you often can't see your user interface.
I mean the screen technology just isn't there yet with these microdisplays right? Like I'm not sure anything available on the market right now is bright enough to see in full sunlight.
They are testing them with studio lights which are brighter than any traditional indoor setting. So not quite direct midday sunlight but maybe a cloudy day
I use my nreal glasses with a mokibo keyboard and my s23+ in dex, and do exactly what is described in the end of the video. I'm a software engineer and that is how I mainly work now. I use termux to have full Linux environment within dex and use vscode, rails, postgres, redis, and more, all running from my phone.
@@nightshade427 I'm going to have to see if I can try this thing somewhere now. I'm in front of screens all day at home. Being able to move to other places in my house and take my screens with me sounds incredible.
It's definitely moving along, getting closer to something I'd be interested in. I like the support for people who need glasses, and that some of the features are getting better over time. I'm really thinking that maybe in 10 years (possibly less, maybe a bit more) we'll see something for ~$500 that can do basically everything we want (VR, AR, productivity, gaming, video consumption).
@@vandalpaulius Right now, I think its resolution is a bit lacking, and the software needs a fair bit of work. Basically, it needs to mature a bit, but you can see the advantages already.
Someone just needs to release glasses like this where the non-AR video is fixed in space like regular AR, instead of fixed to the direction you're facing. We're so close.
The 'old' version of these glasses by Rokid (air) and NReal (Light) had that feature with 6DOF tracking but it looked even more weird which people who were buying it didn't like. It also had slight issues with ergonomics & battery life so now they stripped it down to just display to market as 'lightest' consumer AR glasses and no battery required etc. Quite shame they didn't carry the 6DOF feature on the new version. Like Riley said in Nreal Air video, in some aspects these glasses are a downgrade compared to old versions but looks bit more socially acceptable now so I guess that's the trend for now.......
Nreal (xreal now) literally today announced the xreal beam adapter which turns the nreal air glasses into a 3 dof device when connected to any device. I literally bought the Rokid max and immediately cancelled and bought the older xreal air when I saw that. You don't get the 120Hz mode but the software support and future add ons we're getting from xreal are going to make it a better long term device. Who knows, maybe Rokid will surprise but we'll see.
@@ImpulseBuilds Is 3 degrees good enough to make a difference? What I need is the ability to put two windows next to each other and turn my head to look at them both without the screen moving. That comes out to at least 10 degrees, I would think.
I can't wait for AR with a 3D Google maps like app where you see arrows on the ground to show you were to go and floating signs to show turns. For walking and driving. Just like some UIs in video games
The only reason id see myself actually buying this stuff. But I'd should be standalone for me to get it. Just want to hop onto my bicycle or escooter with a pair of sunglasses and navigate with such an overlay.
We need everything informative on the HUD like maps, weather info, news, google search and google translate etc... I can't believe these things are STILL only used as glorified video monitors. 🤦
If you're at a desk, my recommendation is an ultra large screen like a 40+ inch TV at 4k. It acts as four 1080 screens without bezels. Was very useful when I was doing dev work at my last company.
I'm not even worried about a good desktop experience, but I'd want a really good AR overlay on the move: time, weather, messages, info overlays for things like a streetplan, translations, ...
Same. I want my youtube music, youtube, and my app that i do food delivery on - in front of my face on the move and while driving. (Maybe not the youtube part) What bothers me is the control of the interface, you have to have ur phone unlocked, and drah ur finger on the screen. Kinda sucks. Would be better with idk eye tracking for pointer and a ring on index finger you tap with ur thumb to click.
This is more or less the kind of technology that I have been looking forward to for the last decade. With things like this breaking into the market, I can see a future where I could have a desktop without a monitor at all within the next 5-7 years.
We're definitely getting closer. Just need to shrink the frames of the glasses, add head tracking and make the whole lot wireless. :) Also, work on the GUI obviously to make it smoother and a better input method, although one of those small, fold up keyboard + touchpad combo's might do the trick.
Buying one set of glasses like this seems like an amazing alternative to multiple monitors, the arms to put them on, and the cable clutter that comes with all of that.
The form factor makes more sense than a giant honking contraption which needs a vice grip. I still think direct retinal projection is a must have though. It's going to be a couple decades.
It would take us a lot shorter if more companies attempted to pursue the form factor, and if ridiculously exclusive patents didn't stop them from development! We have the technology, it is feasible and prototypes have been made.
Something I don't get is that all of these require wired connections, which ruins their use as daily sunglasses or glasses; while the technology to make it wireless exists. Because most people won't want to have a cable dangling while going out. It's what kept me from buying them as they'd be expensive to use once or twice then forget about for regular sunglasses. And it's strange because Google pulled this off a decade ago but there are even cheap Chinese AR sunglasses that run android natively. I had one and could side load apps, it even had a wifi chip in it. I could stream Netflix while chilling outside even without a phone on me if there was wifi. It was bulkier than regular sunglasses but not by that much. It even had audio output and a camera in it. The only reason it was a bad experience was because it was cheap and not made by a legit company. I'd gladly pay more for a better version of it. So you'd think this would be possible by bigger companies. Imagine being able to run navigation, take videos, watch videos/browse the internet, without having to physically tether to something else all the time.
The reason is battery life. Without a cable, no "smart" glasses have ever been practical. Not even Google glass. I wish the technology was there too, but batteries just don't have enough density yet.
@@Ambrovious Not really, I have the Inmo Air and you actually get a couple of hours on it. Maybe not a long trip but going out in your area it's fine as long as you turn it off when you're not using them
All I really want from AR is virtual multiple monitors. Think a multi-monitor setup but you only have 1 physical monitor, with 2, 3, 4, etc "virtual" ones around that. For productivity this would be amazing, especially if you're limited on space.
@@JackCarsonite Well true, but gotta consider the importance of having one if there's an issue with the AR driver after an update etc. The Nreal ones actually have a sort of virtual monitor thing but it's only on Mac unfortunately.
Yup im right there with you. Im waiting for that feature. I tried the nreal glasses and they just didnt do the job. Including the factor that i dont use a mac. I would like to carry my 15" laptop and use the glasses to program easier. Were getting closer though.
@@OnPoint760 Yeah, ever since the first commercial AR stuff was announced, I've had a dream of having a virtual multi-screen setup with my laptop wherever I go. Getting used to working with 2-3 screens really has spoiled by work habits. Particularly when coding or doing 3D modelling.
@BobShimits I would really love virtual monitors but as a editor/photographer i need atleast 1 high quality screen. Imagine having a infinity desktop, you could show all your tabs at once, just turn your head.
The people that actually buy and use these don't care about their looks as much. If you use these in bed to watch content, do you care that it looks dorky? If you're sitting behind your desk at home, do you care? Maybe I would care a little if I was using these on a plane or something, but even then I doubt I would.
@@lemster101 i want to use thease all the time while driving and delivering food. So looks do matter a bit. What irks me is the control scheme. Habing to have ur phone unlocled and swiping on it defeats the purpose of the screen on ur face, if you have to have ur phone out as well. Content consumption works great with thease tho
I've been waiting for years. The only thing I want AR glasses for is to have GPS as a HUD display while I'm driving, but most of these companies keep focusing on the wrong things like music or VR. They make the glasses way too bulky for things that are just not practical.
More ar and vr is what this channel needs. VR game benchmarks would be nice, you would probably be the first channel on youtube to include them to gpu tests. Also, there is no reason, why you couldnt do some content on the most currently used VR headset, the Quest 2. Ofc mostly related to PCVR, not mobile.
These sort of things are the tech I am actually interested in- even if these are too big to be practical yet. VR headsets don't really interest me at all, but having "glasses" that let me access info or see road directions or relevant information I want at a glance- that's cool.
So I have the Nreal air, like the quality of the display. Basically use it as a portable big screen monitor for my laptop. Could also be really helpful for mobile video editors who need more screen space than their laptop can provide.
Samsung recently trademarked "Galaxy Glasses," which tracks with some internal pitch videos that leaked for 3DOF and 6DOF AR glasses concepts. DeX is actually one of the better applications of the Nreal Airs for media consumption and a portable desktop, even if it's not really a 3DOF AR mode. Samsung developing their own AR glasses could really galvanize development on a proper AR desktop experience. Also think it's an important piece of the all-in-one device puzzle you mentioned in your recent NexDock review, which is a future I'm super into myself.
I want the idea he presented at end so very much!! Though not just working with a phone, with any computing device. This way I can also not buy extra screens for home, just all my extra screens in virtual space!
@@jairusswint6703 That is exactly the experience I am wishing for! Thanks :) Just a shame this product is just a glorified huge phone with AR glasses plugged in. I hope I'll at some point find a way to get this kind of experience with my regular laptop
1080p per eye? And also, how big does the screen seem if you make it as big as you can? Please do a full video on use on computer as well or just for media consumption. For Travel or people with small rooms, is it a viable replacement for a big screen?
A cool implementation would be to combine it with a laptop. So you eseentially have a portable multimonitor setup, using a laptop screen, and then hovering AR screens around it.
whats nice about these after i did a search is that its 1080p 120 hz which is way better, comparing to other ar glasses he reviewed are 60hz, doesnt matter to watching videos, but some phone games or if you connect to a laptop etc can work with high refresh rate, sure higher resolution would help, even with a 4k vr headset its still blurry since screen is so close to your eye, but at least these can be considered as a portable big screen
It’s not just about the refresh rate of the content (FPS) but about the fact that the display has to update when you move your head. Many people find anything below 90Hz a little jarring or feel nausea.
@@hammadsheikh6032 while that's true, but that generally only apply to vr headset where you have 6 dof movement when you are gaming, these g.asses doesn't require huge amount of sudden movement since it's pretty much just a bit screen floating in front of you instead of vr game
So the ar Mode doesn't work with a laptop? Usless as long as it just works wirh a phone... a tripple monitor setup for your laptop on the go woud be a good scenario.
if they would make AR laptop compatible glasses, that would be super amazing. I can already imagine, that you carry a teeny tiny netbook and connect to this, then you get however many 4K displays. That would be insanely good. But maybe in the future?
Thanks for the review. Sounds pretty cool, but not exactly what I'm looking for. I'd love to find glasses that can provide a true AR experience (like something in Quest 3), but I guess that's not available right now? Bigscreen Beyond seems close, but that's mostly for purely VR, and they're still bulky compared to glasses. Any recommendations? Even the upcoming Apple headset looks bulky.
I still love my older Rokid Airs, but I'm interested in all that the Rokid Max offers. Really good quality products from Rokid and great for guys like me who are near sighted with their myopia dials.
I was skeptical that Apple would be able to succeed with AR/VR…but seeing how other companies are trying it, it sets them up to do the iPod/iPhone thing where they come in after everyone does the R&D and they work out all the pain points and make the device super attractive. So, nReal and these guys have teed them up.
Also honestly some of Apple's products are kind of ugly lol. If they managed to make Airpods a fashion statement then I'm sure they could make the AR glasses just as "fashionable".
@@nicka5040 I think they look nice tbh. I wish they had kept the original AirPods design. Something about the “ear pods without a cable” just hits me right in the pleasure zone of my brain. Too each their own I guess. For me it fits the exact kind of “future hippie minimalism” thing I love so much.
One advantage of having the setup he describes where you have a mouse & keyboard and the glasses provide your screen experience - no more shoulder surfing. That alone is going to be worth something to a lot of people.
These look very similar to the Viture glasses, except the Viture's have better placement of speakers and a magsafe-style lead to connect to your devices. I also already have them sat on my desk, now.
i just wish i could try it somewhere, i have a huge amount of down time at work (fault team) and these sound amazing for netflix and the like, but it's a lot of money if it turns out I dont get on with it.
Riley, watching Queen's Gambit with his wife: ".........................................this lead actress, her eyes, are a little further apart from each other compared to the average person." His wife, sarcastically: ".....................okay. That's something that you will definitely be able to make use of in a future LMG video."
Where I could see these being really useful is in any sort of repair industry. Imagine having a repair document or guide overlayed next to the device being worked on.
I would love to see Riley's opinion on the Viture One XR Glasses. Odd that Alex / Linus reviewed them over on the main channel while Riley has reviewed many AR Glasses over here. Could we get something like a round up of the current landscape of AR glasses?
I travel full time and let me tell you, the second we've got an absolutely rock solid - several hours at a time workable - AR space monitor, im getting a pair. It would make my life so much easier!
It's not AR unless it can recognise and interact with the real world, like the glasses being able to overlay labels over real world objects, or track your finger movements so you could "air type" and point with your fingers without needing a mouse.
@@chrikke Augmented Reality, meaning interacts with the real world to enhance it. Unless they interact with real world objects they're just VR that you can see through, not AR. Never AssUme. I studied VR and AR as a virtual remote interactive method for doctors as part of my PhD in telemedicine.
@@chrikke Your definition of AR is part of what I already said, which YOU said was wrong! And the term Mixed Reality is (MR) is used interchangably with AR, with different people giving different answers because there is no universally accepted distinction. So stop trying to be so arrogant.
@@chrikke if you are saying a VR display that you can simply see through is AR, without other features that allow the display to interact with objects in the real world, such as overlaying labels by RECOGNISING real world objects, then you are factually just wrong.
This type of tech is already going to be a HUGE hit with anyone that cares about privacy when they are working a project. If you use these as your primary display for your computer you don't have to worry about ANYONE seeing what you are working on (boss, co-workers, customers, etc.). That right there alone make these worth the price. And, if these draw power over USB-C from the device that they are connected to as long as that device is pulgged in you won't have to worry about running out of power or recharging at all.
im not exactly sure how much it would be but isn't an oled display thats in the glasses at least $150 and with injection molding the $400 price doesn't sound horrible
17:52 that's where you're wrong, you do NOT have all of that on a 13/15/17 inch display - That is only one display, at a smaller (visualized) size. Glasses like this allow for a potentially huge multi monitor set up anywhere.
This really solves a problem for me, not the glasses, but the Rokid Hub. I have the nreal airs and using them with my Steam Deck means that I can't charge it when I have the glasses plugged in. Already ordered, so here's to hoping it works.
It probably will but alternatively the Nubia redmagic adaptor does the trick as well. Been using it for 6 months now to charge my deck while using the nreal airs
If you want hub to work with steam deck, then you will be disappointed. Rokid needs to tweak it some more and they were saying that MAYBE in a month or sth they will have any (good) news. Anyway they said that the solution wont work for current global version of hub, so for SD you should wait for the new hub to be released
Honestly i don't think people should focus on the looks of it to much for now. I see AR glasses as an alternative for a multi monitor setup, and am waiting anxiously for the day i'm goingo to replace my monitors for AR glasses. I just started searching and there was a compeling alternative but it was mac only and had a few kinks that put me out, but honestly i don't think we are that far.
Seriously considering something like these for my primary display when I build a new rig in November/December. I've moved to a new place, with more limited space, and will need two rigs set up ultimately (one for work, one for gaming in different areas,) so something like this on my personal rig would be excellent. Also, imagining leaning back in bed with these on and a PS4 controller in hand (or my Switch,) playing games before going to sleep.
14:50 I feel like this would be similar to when I'm scrolling through a webpage for example on my phone and I accidentally scroll an ad but my eyes keep trying to look through the rest of the page, which is not a great feeling, it's almost like falling.
Honestly not a great choice for a short circuit. Seems like something you'd have to spend time with and figure out before most meaningful conclusions could be had.
I just want virtual display glasses that don't cost more than a vr hmd. Give me these glasses without tracking and without transparency; I wanna play console in my van, or as a passenger on a roadtrip without needing a monitor or TV. Surely this would cut the cost in half, or better.
[08:22] At first I was a bit confused at Riley making this musical reference, as he seems at least a decade too young, but then I remembered that the song got a re-release some time later, or maybe it was used in a movie or something. 🤷♂️
I think the thing these types of AR glasses are missing is the "killer app." As in, something that is just amazing and makes people go, "Yea, I need that." Here's what I think it could be. Make a clean, easily configurable, UI that gives you similar info in real time to what we know already works in video games. As in, give me a little circular world map in the corner that constantly shows me what direction I'm headed and lets me see what's around me. Let me set the world map up so if I'm walking or biking then the radius is smaller but if I'm driving then it's bigger. Let me have an easy way to set waypoints. Give me a little objective I can add that lets me work on my to-do list as I go about my day, feeling good that I'm accomplishing the things I've set out to do. Give me a compass in the top of the screen so I always know my heading. Maybe let me see how many steps I've taken. Again, as long as it's configurable and I can turn different 'widgets' on and off, and also resize them and change their position, then give me everything imaginable. Lastly, have it set up so if I pull my phone out and click on a notification, it goes into a clean UI that focuses on that, but also has a 'controller' style way to switch between big menus (like Zelda BOTW when looking at the Purah Pad) We need AR to handle these basic things before we can get anything better. Basically, make my life easier and not harder. After all, video games have already figured out how useful world maps are, and we have tons of info in Google Maps, Apple Maps, Waze and others so just use the info already!
Tired “if only Apple made this.” Apple products are normally twice as much, over designed, engineered and hyped. The interesting thing is most tech today has a lifespan of 2-3 years, which means your phone that could last for five or seven years is already obsolete before it even starts to show signs of wear and look dated. The fact that XREAL over the past five years has worked to make these lighter and dare I say more stylish, demeans this company and other innovative startups without Apple’s deep pockets to sink billions of $$$ into prototypes or just buy them outright. (like most of the tech that allows the Vision Pro to exist). I applaud Nreal for standing up to another Apple wannabe ‘MagicLeap’ who sucked the life out of the investment market for “make believe” tech and sued them for actually coming up with product that others are now emulating, like Rokid. I will happily get a couple years of use out of these types of AR’ glasses before they disappear into the black hole called Apple and we are stuck with something that will ONLY work on a few select devices from Apple.
the second Apple come out with one of these, im buying it. Get a bare bones version of vision pro into a set of not horrific sunglasses and they can have all my money
I'm also waiting for a phone+glasses+keyboard+mouse combo to replace my laptop. Of course I would want to get rid of my desktop monitor as well. Head tracking should be built into the device. I imagine it receiving an 4k or 8k signal and letting you pan around that huge screen by moving your head, not your eyes. I tried the Nreal Air for a couple of days and sent it back just because of this: the screen moving along with my head. I had to move my eyes like Thomas the tank engine if you know what I mean. I had a headache in 10 minutes, and I can wear VR glasses like the Quest for hours without an issue.
I very much agree with Riley here. The no-battery design is great, and it is best to offload the computation load to other devices. And the direction they should go for is really just "having 3 screens at the same time". The active area by the retina can actually be smaller, having some kind of fish eye vision is fine enough. A 3d motion sensor, a small pixel-dense display at the center & a large rough display around it, and a diopter.
I think something like this would be awesome if it were affordable. I don't really personally care about productivity with something like this (at least not until it's way better), but just to have as a better viewing experience for handheld games or watching media on your phone while you're on the bus, on a road trip etc. I could maybe see it for "productivity" for a secondary monitor of sorts but again really just for viewing media while I'm doing other things on my PC because I don't have room for a second monitor for example. But man having a good version of this that you can just keep in your bag/pocket as a bigger screen for watching netflix/youtube on your phone or playing your switch/steamdeck on the go would be awesome!
"There's people on my desk! We've had that for years..." even more than he thinks! I had a game where you would move the phone and aim at viruses all around, and while this doesn't sound impressive, the iPhone was still a few years away back then :D good old Nokia 3650. The tracking was really primitive though, lack of all sorts of sensors required tracking the movement on the image. All in all spectacularly cool stuff.
