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Now The Blue Bowl ROCKS!! Silicone Miller Table on the Rocks 

Alan Robertson
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The new silicone mat for the concetrator bowl works fantastic at recovering the super fine gold. The new mat is a big improvement with a skim coat of raw silicone on top of the mat and only 1/8th inch thick.
The silicone miller table goes on the back burner for now it just doesn't hold the gold like the blue bowl does.
The molds are available here jrprinting.bigcartel.com
My email. moldsandmats@gmail.com

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@alistairclark6814
@alistairclark6814 9 месяцев назад
I have the blue bowl. I like to dry my cons, classify everything into seperate sizes down to -50, pull all the magnetics out of each keeping the magnetics in seperate sizes then wet everything back up, run everything separately on it's own in the blue bowl with jet dry and I feel like I get all the gold out easily. I do like that blue bowl silicone mat though!! 😁🤘
@FlourgoldWizards
@FlourgoldWizards 4 года назад
Now I don’t have to try it!!!! Thanks for taking one for the team!!!!! ✅🍻✌️
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Any time! That was a bummer.
@ferdburphel2076
@ferdburphel2076 4 года назад
You've turned a vision into reality👏...Great dedication 🤝
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thank you so much 😀
@allansgoldmining
@allansgoldmining 4 года назад
Good job Alan ! I haven't been a very big fan of the Miller Table. Much prefer the Blue Bowl ! Thanks for sharing !
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Yep I had to give it a try I will be sticking with the blue bowl. Thanks Allan
@seanb3516
@seanb3516 10 месяцев назад
Use Roofing Membrane rubber for the table. It is made to be wettable with water. Also use Jet Dry. I think it is known as EDPM Elastomer or something similar. Use regular Silicone Seal to glue it.
@davidvilla3243
@davidvilla3243 4 года назад
It got you working for that gold this time.THANKS FOR SHARING
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
You bet Thanks David
@pnwgoldrushers8443
@pnwgoldrushers8443 3 года назад
Awesome. So going to try this. I have a bucket of processed black sand that I want to be sure I got all the gold out of.
@GSProspecting
@GSProspecting 4 года назад
looking good fam. keep up the work. GOLD SQUAD OUT!!!
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thanks! Will do!
@tanksoldier9770
@tanksoldier9770 4 года назад
Nice catch !Gold is the color of the day. TANK
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
That was fun thanks.
@sanchopanzaandsonnycrockett
@sanchopanzaandsonnycrockett 2 года назад
Alan love all your videos about how the blue bowl works and the possibilities of this BLUE BOWL 🥣
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 2 года назад
Thank you
@coptechgold
@coptechgold 4 года назад
Very nice work again my friend.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thanks again!
@adamlong54
@adamlong54 2 года назад
Good recover i tell everyone about you and your silicone mats sir.
@majorronaldmandell7835
@majorronaldmandell7835 Месяц назад
That new silicon mat worked like a dream according to what I could see, but it’s too far away for me me to see for sure how much of what is left in the pan is gold, or if a lot of it is white beach sand. I’d love to see close up footage with a magnifying lens.
@jeff-JAO530
@jeff-JAO530 Год назад
Awesome Alan great job hope your having heavy PANS brother.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 Год назад
Thanks Jeff
@scrapyardprospecting3855
@scrapyardprospecting3855 2 года назад
I tried spray clear roof sealer. Seems to be a lot beter than nothing would like to compare yours to see which is beter
@fabiobeyhautkuhn2211
@fabiobeyhautkuhn2211 4 года назад
Hi,tireless worker,seeing all your vids ,but no comments,glad yo see you well and working, silicones hidrophobic,but it catches good,what about painting with matte paint in transverse direction,ive done it on a homemade batea,painting around on it,and really changed. Happy see you working ,take care and enjoy,thanks for share.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Hello there. I will stick with the silicone without the paint. Take care and stay cool.
@sanchopanzaandsonnycrockett
@sanchopanzaandsonnycrockett 2 года назад
Mats made with silicone is wonderful
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 2 года назад
They sure are. Thanks
@yoopermann7942
@yoopermann7942 4 года назад
ALAN, dont give up just yet,, to me from what i can see is your miller table is to short in length, but hey what do i know,, as for your blue bowl i have never used one and only seen them in videos,,, i think your idea on the miller table is on the right track,, keep up the impressive work
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I will have to give it another try, Maybe this winter when I have more time.
@yoopermann7942
@yoopermann7942 4 года назад
@@alanrobertson2510 how did you get some of the material that i ran way out where you are,,, i,m here in the UPPER PENINSULA of MICHIGAN, i found a layer of that kind of sand on a creek, didnt find but a .5g of tiny gold in the couple of hours that i was there on the creek
@majorronaldmandell7835
@majorronaldmandell7835 Месяц назад
Very interesting!
@kennysherrill6542
@kennysherrill6542 4 года назад
I just Subbed, great work there my friend, I will watch your other vids. I love to gold pan as a hobby and metal detect. 👍👍👍👍👍💰
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thanks for the sub! I hope you enjoy the channel. Have a great summer.
@AnArmAndAGreg
@AnArmAndAGreg 2 месяца назад
I am a blue bowl fan, but just got a miller table to try it out.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 2 месяца назад
Playing with the blue bowl is fun but I do prefer the the miller table.
@chrislilly1463
@chrislilly1463 4 года назад
I now see why in the other video you mentioned that you we’re giving up on the Miller table. Your blue bowl works so well, there isn’t much point in trying anything else. The gold swirling is really cool to watch too.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I had to give the miller table a try and glad I did. Sticking with the blue bowl for now or until I come up with a better idea. Thanks Chris.
@chrislilly1463
@chrislilly1463 4 года назад
Instead of a wide “table” have you considered a 3” wide and 2-3 foot long clean up sluice
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
@@chrislilly1463 I have thought of that. I have a brand new clean up sluice 4 inches wide and four feet long with a built in header box. I hope to do a video on it soon.
@frederickbierweiler8020
@frederickbierweiler8020 4 года назад
great project, amazing
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Glad you like it! Thanks
@srip63
@srip63 4 года назад
Great job
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thank you.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 4 года назад
Hi Alan. I had the same problem when I tried to make a silicone Miller Table. I tried painting the Silicone on the deck of one and on another I made a solid top out of Silicone. I did a video but before I put it up, I decided to see if you had the same problem I did. Looks like you did. I really do like your design and it certainly is easy to get to work, but not out of Silicone unfortunately. If it's ok with you, I'll make one with your design that works very well. That makes a right nice little mini Miller Table. Looks like the blue bowl part works very well.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Yep same problem glad to see it's not just me. Yes I would love to see what you come up with for a miller table. Maybe a silicone mat at the bottom might work well. Good luck on the project.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 4 года назад
Alan Robertson I put one together and it was looking pretty good except it was rather long. So I'm making another one that has better proportions and it is looking a lot better. Just trying to decide on how to do the water. Yep, it has a 2" Silicone mat at the end that can be taken out and emptied or changed for another mat. I'm trying to design it to be really easy to build like your other equipment.
@arne6787
@arne6787 3 года назад
Sounds like the Miller table needs strips of Silicone going across rather than the whole surface, somewhat like riffles. I use pergo flooring, the smooth bottom side, already painted, very smooth and flat. Makes for a long narrow Miller table. I feed my blue bowl into it. Sides a made using molding from Home Depot also.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 3 года назад
Arne I have been building these for the past 11 years and have tried just about everything you can think of for the table surface. You need a material that the gold will stick to and the blacksand won't. Unfortunately both stick to the Silicone as they are both metal. The best thing for a Miller Table surface I have found so far is Rustoleum Chalkboard paint. The gold will stick to it but all the other materials won't. Great stuff. I use it on my sluice slick plates as well as you can see if there is gold in the dirt and it slows the fine gold down so it will get caught in the top Riffle of my mat.
@majorronaldmandell7835
@majorronaldmandell7835 Месяц назад
This innovation with the silicon mat on the floor of the blue bowl is terrific. This should sell like hat cakes to any blue bowl user. But it creates another small problem because the gold sticks to the silicon making it difficult to snuffer up. I was thinking that maybe you could develop a new type of snuffer - one that uses a small motor to suck up the gold rather than than squeezing that snuffer bottle continuously for fifteen minutes. On another vein I was thinking that there is no reason to snuffer up all the gold (completely clean it), just get that you can easily get on your first pass. The rest you can leave in there. It’s not going anywhere, so no reason to slave at it or ever remove the mat.
@philjohnston7920
@philjohnston7920 4 года назад
i think your table may need a bit more length also a thought would be to add a vibrator to it like the type from an old mobile phone. might help with separating the gold on a even lower angles with a light water flow.
@adventurer2075
@adventurer2075 4 года назад
Alan, your miller table mat idea is very good. The problems you experience with water flow is because original miller table surface is not made from silicone. You got very good setup here, just need to narrow the width of your miller table down to 2-3 inch. It will look like a mini sluice without riffles, yes, but it will be easier to control water flow.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thank for the tips I will be giving that a try.
@bymancini1
@bymancini1 4 года назад
Very interesting ! Thanks !!!
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@lindaelwell1924
@lindaelwell1924 3 года назад
Love mine
@coreymerrill3257
@coreymerrill3257 4 года назад
Maybe a thin layer of flex seal liquid rubber painted on the silicone . or hold a can of spray paint about 2 feet over the matting and spray from the discharge side twords the resevoir side, to give a speckel-wear look and the texture should help hold the gold.and from that side so it gains a little more depth and slows the water down on the far end.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Good ides but the silicone is what makes the mat work so well.
@michealklonowski5267
@michealklonowski5267 4 года назад
thank,you for sharing.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@pault9624
@pault9624 3 года назад
Nice video i enjoyed the science neat idea. ⛏
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@james.adkins
@james.adkins 4 года назад
Interesting issues with the table. I have had trouble maintaining constant flow in my bowl as material washes out there is less resistance making the water flow vary. Can you post a link for the regulator so I can check it out? Also, can you use your water table brush to sweep the fine gold into a pile in the bowl? Thanks for posting. Stay Well!
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Sure the bilge pump controller is at Washingtonbeach mining.com. You can use a brush in the bowl.
@DonaldRogersBaldEagle
@DonaldRogersBaldEagle 4 года назад
if painting the matt with silicone helps, have you tried just painting the bottom of the bowl with silicone? thanks for sharing you research.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I think it would be hard to get the silicone even if a person tried to paint on a thin layer of silicone. Just my thoughts.
@williampendergrass186
@williampendergrass186 4 года назад
Hello Alan, that was impressive, but did you check the waste material to see if any gold went over the top
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Yes a few pieces got over the top but the mats did it's job. Thanks for watching.
@jayantigordhan1291
@jayantigordhan1291 2 года назад
Well done jakes SA
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 2 года назад
Thanks
@stever197037
@stever197037 4 года назад
I would maybe try something like 1000 grit wet sandpaper glued to a tray for a Miller. I do think they sell a purple one that may help you see color.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Might be worth a try. Thanks for watching.
@jansteve-007
@jansteve-007 2 года назад
Did not get where you list the math with the nugget trap
@brainretardant
@brainretardant 4 года назад
What do you think about running that Miller on a sweet grade of petrol or mineral oil? High specific
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Honestly I have no idea on how that would work. I will be sticking with the blue bowl for now. Thanks.
@SaraJean85
@SaraJean85 4 года назад
** let the miller cascade into a normal sluce and maybe if the Miller is stacked over the regular sluice u can make the water faster. Kinda like one on the other so the cons from the Miller fall down into the feeding area and sprayers of the other.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Good ideas Thanks for watching.
@formerlyuser123
@formerlyuser123 4 года назад
Blue bowls out of the box have no issue catching superfine gold, provided you preclassify your material. Stock blue bowls arent meant for material bigger than 30 mesh. The more you classify it the better your capture rate on fines will be. Personally I do 30-50, 50-100 and then 100 minus, with slower water flow for the 50- and much slower for the 100- I make my living as a solo alluvial gold miner so process a lot of cons. Every few months i clear out the bucket under the blue bowl and re classify and re run it all super slow and careful and i typically get a number of specks in the single digits. Blue bowls run correctly are very effective. Lately ive moved onto a spiral wheel, with the high grade feeding down a bit of pvc pipe into a small 30 mesh sieve sitting over the blue bowl. This gives me 99% recovery rate, the 1% will be collected next time theres a rainy day and i dont want to head out
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Sound like you got your process down to a fine art. I hope you have a great season. Thanks for watching.
@formerlyuser123
@formerlyuser123 4 года назад
@@alanrobertson2510 thanks mate, always tweaking and playing around. I love what youre doing for the hobby, demonstrating to people they dont need the most expensive fancy marketed mat to catch all the gold. Hope to catch up with you somd day if the skies ever open again internationally
@seanbdalton
@seanbdalton 3 года назад
I'm new to all this, so correct me if I'm wrong; wouldn't the miller table require jet dry or soap in order to break the surface tension and allow the lower water flow to work correctly? It seems to me that there is too much surface tension which can be chemically treated with soap.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 3 года назад
Yes jet dry works great for surface tension
@rtyhgfplmkoi4784
@rtyhgfplmkoi4784 4 года назад
Sounds like the table needs to slant upwards with maximum water flow.?
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I tried every angle and water flow and never got it to work right.
@timothymulhollandt.n.tcust4476
@timothymulhollandt.n.tcust4476 4 года назад
Add some rocks in pan to cut water flow
@bernardshomin6223
@bernardshomin6223 4 года назад
You could tip your bowl up on a support and wash down your heavies down to one crescent point,then sucker it up.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Good tip thank you.
@jeremiahsechrist1897
@jeremiahsechrist1897 3 года назад
I'm sure it's already been suggested somewhere here but to me it looks a little short, with more length youll trap alot more gold
@reidogarimpo1691
@reidogarimpo1691 4 года назад
Great!!!
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thank you.
@garyhawkins9733
@garyhawkins9733 4 года назад
How does it compare to the dream mat for the Blue Bowl?
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I have no idea and will leave it at that. Thanks for watching Gary.
@CandSMINING
@CandSMINING 4 года назад
I don't use a Miller table for the reasons you stated in your video. I do better with a long sluice and silicon mats. I use the blue bowl for small batches of cons. Is your blue bowl dumping into your clean up sluice? There is a lot of color on the mat.😎👍👍👌👌⛏⛏
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I agree with you now the blue bowl works so much better than the miller table. Yes the bowl is dumping onto the clean up sluice.
@michiganprospectors
@michiganprospectors Год назад
This is the big problem I have been having with my Miller Table. Either the super fine gold flows down or the water separates on me. The Blue Bowl is not much better with the flat flakes we have. I have seen them wash right down the middle on me. Either that or nothing washes out.
@RRRRR5202
@RRRRR5202 Год назад
You used the soap?
@michiganprospectors
@michiganprospectors Год назад
@@RRRRR5202 I always use dish soap or jet dry.
@RRRRR5202
@RRRRR5202 Год назад
Jet dry?
@michiganprospectors
@michiganprospectors Год назад
@@RRRRR5202 Sold for dish washers. Breaks up surface tension in water.
@RRRRR5202
@RRRRR5202 Год назад
Thank you
@meanboycoins6250
@meanboycoins6250 4 года назад
Vibration or longer silicon mat?
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I think I will stick with the Blue Bowl.
@permafredperma409
@permafredperma409 3 года назад
Use a small paint brush to move the gold around
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 3 года назад
That does work well. I have just been pulling the mat.
@dwaynelowery5808
@dwaynelowery5808 4 года назад
How much gold did you add!
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
It was a few grams.
@woodybatter3896
@woodybatter3896 4 года назад
When you brush the gold up it may be building a static charge that’s separating the water from the mat.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Very true that might just be whats happening.
@garyhawkins9733
@garyhawkins9733 4 года назад
I dont see them available
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Sorry I sold out yesterday and will have more listed some time today.
@syguit71-bq1tq
@syguit71-bq1tq 4 года назад
I use a turkey baster to push that stuff around
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Good idea. Thanks for watching.
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
When no one is looking- I use them as a sniffer bottle!
@LickMist
@LickMist 3 года назад
What about a old record?
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 3 года назад
Only one way to find out. Give it a try.
@georgyandreev9992
@georgyandreev9992 4 года назад
Alan great experiment again !? video run up to 13-34 minute ? some think wrong !
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Thanks The video is working on my end ,not sure what happened.
@naiakaseiasvili8631
@naiakaseiasvili8631 3 года назад
Woww, it's imposable.🧠👌.✅
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 3 года назад
It works fantastic.
@gordonthomas7103
@gordonthomas7103 11 месяцев назад
Try a different material, and some jet dry in the water.
@jasonbalmaceda6579
@jasonbalmaceda6579 2 года назад
Try adding some mercury in the deep end . It will bond with the gold
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
And then, you have to remove mercury (toxic) from your gold, which just gives you another set of issues!
@diggingwithdavid5732
@diggingwithdavid5732 Год назад
Putting black silicon in kind of defeats the purpose of the blue bowl you can not see when all the black sand is gone.
@edsonkidwell9813
@edsonkidwell9813 4 года назад
It's better but I can help you further blue bowl. Your missing a COOL opportunity
@amhatskiykyth41regionkamha37
@amhatskiykyth41regionkamha37 2 года назад
👑🔱🗻🌏🏞️🏅🎬🎞️..
@jjprospectors6228
@jjprospectors6228 4 года назад
I take it and pay the shipping if you're going to throw out
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
Going to keep it for now.
@jonnyrox116
@jonnyrox116 4 года назад
That right there is the reason most people don't fuck with flour gold, time is money and you waste so much time trying to separate gold from magnatite that it's not profitable...unless that's all you have to do.
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
It's obvious, too much time on my hands, and I strive to simplify it all- for even more time on my hands. Work is a dirty 4 letter word; Lazy is 4 letter and cleaner!
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
If you only look for the chunky stuff, you will get skunked more often than not!
@goldseekersadventures9380
@goldseekersadventures9380 4 года назад
Put chalk paint on the silicone
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
The paint will not stick to 100% silicone
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
@@alanrobertson2510 Being a painter I have come across that around windows and doors, no matter how thick a coat I applied, it just beads up and will run or dry, either way, it looked like crap and would have to paint around the caulk line.
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 9 месяцев назад
You are absolutely right. Paint will not stick to silicone. @@dirkfrazier9779
@phillipjacobson4457
@phillipjacobson4457 Год назад
Have the water enter the table from underneath. Make a pool of water that rises up and over the hole edge of the table. Rather then having the water dump unevenly from above. Get a smooth flow of water flowing across the hole table. The pump fills the sump and over flows onto the miller table. Ok yes cyclone is causing the dry spots, but a nice smooth flow may help. This is a untested idea.
@edsonkidwell9813
@edsonkidwell9813 4 года назад
Alan I can solve your ISSUE. Ditch the Miller technique. To slow.
@drinventions9742
@drinventions9742 4 года назад
Ok,, at 13 minutes you’re done buddy,, I mean it’s finished, there’s absolutely no reason to run again, Retrieve what’s in the bowl, dry it, put it in a crucible, add flux , melt, and pour into a button, all done,, I don’t know about you but my time is money, I’m not about to waste time trying get every little speck of sand out,, the sand will melt also, that’s what glass is made out of
@alanrobertson2510
@alanrobertson2510 4 года назад
I would agree if I was going to melt it.
@edsonkidwell9813
@edsonkidwell9813 4 года назад
Much better idea guy e-mail me
@blackpearl9055
@blackpearl9055 Год назад
You talk a lot. Blah ,blah ,blah , blah , blah , blah
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
No one asked for your supervision!
@blahhblahh1511
@blahhblahh1511 Год назад
Would have been nice if weighed the gold for recovery quality
@dirkfrazier9779
@dirkfrazier9779 9 месяцев назад
He did, pay attention next time!
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