August 6, 1945. On this fateful Monday morning our world changed forever. Nuclear weapons were now a reality, destruction on a whole new level a possibility. International power dynamics, foreign politics and conflict handling would never be the same once this new kind of weapon of mass destruction had entered the scene. The threat of potentially world-ending nuclear war, the fear that the men in power would push “the red button”, would hang over people like a dark cloud from this day on. The Nuclear Age had begun. If you’re interested in how politics developed during The Nuclear Age, you can explore that in the day-by-day coverage of The Cuban Missile Crisis over on TimeGhost History. The first introduction, “USA Starts the Atomic Arms Race”, is already up and you can watch it right here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zEXjoBe5ZdI.html If you would like to gain early access to our Sabaton History episodes and actively support this awesome project that we are so passionate about, you can do so by joining our Patreon community. There are some pretty cool perks when you become part of the Patreon family. Find out more and join here 👉 www.patreon.com/sabatonhistory
I LOVE this last idea! See you at the piano bar Indy! ;) Actually I love everything in this episode. Bring back Nuclear Attack on the setlist pleaaaase! \m/ I was waiting for this one to be honest. The nuclear bombing of Japan is a subject I hold in high importance in my heart. First thing I wanted to do when I got the chance to travel to this incredible country is to go to Hiroshima. And there's a lot to be said about this city now and through the tales in its museum and remembrance places for there are many... The Corean monument, the gardens, the children park, the peace bell, the old castle and its two trees which survived the bombing! The cenotaph and its everlasting flame... and of course the Genbaku dome. I highly and warmly recommend to anyone visiting Japan to go discover Hiroshima. It's the most peaceful place in the world. One would think it's a heavy place to go to like Auschwitz must be, but it's not. The only feelings I felt it spreads are compassion, understanding, forgiveness and an unbreakable will to build a peaceful future for all so this never happens again. Thank you for keeping the flame of remembrance lit, team! It's one more step towards Hiroshima's goal ^^
@@lylissmorrinz8361 You honestly make me smile with your way of seeing the world. And once again you make me so grateful I put the damn headphones back on and made myself overcome my American overproduced metal ears. Because I never would have bought that ticket last year and I never would have met you from inside that Insta live stream.
I am going to have to look through my old pictures and keepsakes my grandparents left me, but my grandfather was a Secret Service agent and protected both FDR and Truman. For a couple of years, my grandparents lived in Detroit, because my grandfather was part of the Secret Service detachment that made sure that the Presidential limousine had the required access for FDR who of course had polio (pretty sure it was still secret at that time). He passed away while I was still very little, but we have an old silver letter holder with the seal of the Secretary of War. Mr. Stimson gave it to my grandfather because my grandfather told great jokes. As you can imagine, Stimson had some pretty heavy stuff going on and needed a laugh now and then. And all of the yes on Indy and the piano bar. And at least one or three of Sabaton's songs also lend themselves nicely to some Bobby Darin Mack the Knife lounge lizard vibes. Just sayin'. Because I'm supposed to be on that boat in December (provided that I'm allowed into the EU since I'm American). And this is worth the price of admission alone.
I actually have some personal connection with this. So this is my story. My grandfather was one of the first people to make landfall on the Japanese mainland when the "all clear" was given. I was told he was on one of the boats that armed one of the bombs (I forget which one, my father doesn't remember too much about it now) but my grandfather on my mother's side had a neighbor/best friend that I know did load the Enola Gay. But, my grandfather after marching a few miles inland, found a porcelain candy dish. It was in pristine condition amongst all of the carnage of this bomb and brought it back to Pittsburgh as a war trophy. He married his highschool sweetheart that same year and proceeded to be like every post war family and have several children, my father being the second oldest of 7. What my dad tells me, is that him and a few of his younger brothers where wrestling around and knocked over this dish and broke the edge of it off. He told me that my grandfather was FURIOUS! It was the most angry he ever saw his father. So basically this thing survived one of the most devastating attacks in human history, but barely survived my father and his brothers. He still has the candy dish, it's now like an family heirloom. I've actually asked my father if he should test it for any kind of trace radiation on it. But I've always wanted to visit Japan, I might just bring it back to them in the future for their museum.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Nv8uk9n1_t4.html Nice Documentary about USS- Indianapolis, which carry one bomb inside its hangar apartment. timestamp of incident can be found 10:14.
I think contacting the museum at Hiroshima would be a good idea. They are collecting artifacts from that day and would probably b interested in your candy dish.
@@bluetuber1291 I was just guessing it wouldn't be on Indy's setlist. Some drinks might give him sudden urge to play it 😄 but Joakim might have something to say to that because of his love/hate relationship with the song 😄
About igniting the atmosphere: the nitrogen in the air can be fused, releasing energy and might start a chain reaction. The possibility was raised and they did the math. They quickly found that it is impossible. Even the conditions in the core of our Sun do not come close to igniting nitrogen. You need a dying star with at least 10x the mass of the Sun to achieve that.
@@pantherace1000 if you're curious, there are two major forces involved in nuclear fusion: the strong nuclear force and the electromagnetic force. The strong nuclear force is responsible for binding protons and neutrons together is very powerful, but its range is short. The electromagnetic force is something you're probably familiar with, since it is the reason electricity works, why magnets pull and repel, and why we have chemical bonds. Now to fuse two atoms together, you need to get those two atoms close enough for the strong nuclear force to overpower the electromagnetic force. Since the nucleus of any atom is positive, two nuclei will repel each other with a substantial amount of force. Elements with more protons will repel even more because more charge=more repulsion. Hydrogen can fuse with hydrogen fairly easily, it's only one proton each and our sun does it all the time. Helium can fuse with helium, but with each nucleus having two protons, it's about four times as difficult. Our sun isn't quite hot enough in the core to do this, but will reach that temperature in maybe a billion years. Now nitrogen, with seven protons in each nucleus, will be roughly 49 times harder to fuse. You'll need a very large star to do that. This minimum amount of energy is called the Coulomb Barrier. If you are curious in reading more, a wikipedia rabbit hole is good fun without diving too heavily into heavy-duty physics. If you with to read more academic sources, check out anything from experimental nuclear fusion at places like the National Ignition Facility or theoretical nuclear fusion including other fusion chains such as the CNO cycle. Links to get started: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb_barrier en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_force en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNO_cycle
Well, Nuclear Fission and Nuclear Bombs were brand new back then, it is natural, that they didn't knew all of the basic stuff and had to question and calculate it ^^
My great uncle (grandfather's brother) was in the Bataan Death March and POW until the end of the war. While researching the prison camp he was in, I found a book written by another prisoner, Terrence S. Kirk, of his camp called "The Secret Camera." The camp was just outside Kokura which was the primary target for Bockscar and Fat Man (Nagasaki was actually the secondary target as cloud cover and antiaircraft fire prevented them from dropping it on Kokura). They found out shortly after release they were lucky they weren't nuked as the United States was unaware of the prison camp. A side note... when released, my Great Uncle, who was 6'3" weighed only 90 lbs.
It's amazing the stories told by veterans and survivors of war and prisoners about their encounters and hardships. My grandfather fought in the Pacific Theatre for the United States Army Air Corps in a weather recon squadron. His position in the crew was radio operator and side gunner. He told us about a mission they went on to scout out targets and photograph what they looked like 12 hours before and after the target was confirmed, the confirmed target was Hiroshima due to ideal visibility and weather conditions.
Can I request that Indy play Swedish Pagans on the cruise? Cause that's one of Joakim's favorite songs. He might say something else, but deep down in his panzer heart, it is his favorite song. Oh and play The Hammer has Fallen. Not just Indy, but the band too. I fucking love that song live. The studio version, not so much
I could go to a Sabaton show just to hear Joakim sing HMMMRRRHHHMM for the whole hour and half. Seriously though, thank you for this episode. It really gave me the chills, as does the word "extermination" every time I hear it in the song. Would be cool to hear it live some day. Take care guys and rock on! 😊🤘
It is quite obvious that both Indy and Joakim have missed the interaction on the set. While I'm mostly here for the history of the songs and the stories behind them, it is a true treat to also watch this friendship between the Timeghost crew and Sabaton evolve.
I love how you guys handle such heavy material so well and respectfully and yet have enough humour during the interview to make me laugh. Thank you for doing what you’re doing Sabaton History!
Great episode covering a great song. Since "Nuclear Attack" the song mainly focuses on the dropping of the atom bomb and the devastation it caused, if anyone's interested in a different song covering more of the material Indy talked about, I'd recommend the song "Manhatten Project" by Rush off their album "Power Windows". It's one of their more underrated songs and it covers the research, testing, use. and legacy of the atomic bomb. It's a very different song from "Nuclear Attack", so it's interesting to see how different bands can cover the same event so differently.
I have posted my lengthy feelings about this song and it seems I am not the only one that has compared Manhattan Project by Rush. Same topic but different viewpoint. Not to take away from Sabaton but I heard Rush first and even now I am playing it in my head and have to listen to it now. Well, the whole album actually.
I have been to Japan last September as part of a university field trip. We had a great time, as Japan is amazing and the Japanese are really friendly and welcoming people. As we slowly made our way from Tokio to the south, we had a final stop in Hiroshima. We had a sightseeing tour and visited the atomic bomb museum and oh boy. No one spoke a single word for over an hour as we left, most with tears in their eyes. I even have to cry as I write these words. It was an interesting, nevertheless horrifying experience. At the end, we learned to fold paper cranes and placed some there. You can look the story behind this up, if you are interested. Just one thing to say: Be responsible! For all actions that you take, little or big, try to make this world a better place. I wish you all to stay healthy in these times. Have a nice day.
The B29 that dropped fat man (aka the second bomb) is called Bockscar and is in the National Air Force Museum in Dayton Ohio. The plane was so big they had to build the building around it. The Museum is great and if you can go you should and see it they. They also have many experimental, military and other aircraft from the original fabric from the wright flyer to modern jets.
Its big, but its not the biggest plane in that building! That's the crazy part. I've been lucky enough to see both B-29's (Enola Gay being at the Smithsonian Air and Space annex at Dulles IAP.)
I feel Nuclear Attack is one of their most underated songs in their repertoire. I never hear people saying it's a favorite or in their top 10 favorites
If you consider the effect of radiation on the human body, immediate death was better than what happened to those who survived the explosion but were exposed to radiation.😔 You really should play this song live!🤘🏻 And since I will not be on the cruise, someone please share Indy's video at the piano !!!🤩🥰 Thanks for another great episode! Stay safe!🤝🏻🙅🏻♀️🤘🏻😊
I just wanted to say that you make a perfect duo. I could watch you two just talking about any kind of stuff for hours. And by the way I was really looking forward to the "Nuclear Attack" episode! Great one!
thank you guys for all youve done, ive recently been in the hospital the last couple days and you guys have helped take my mind off of things please keep up the good work
@@penkagenova7073 Funny you say that, he was taken prisoner and treated as a highly valuable target because the Germans thought he was a relative of Winston Churchill.
@@penkagenova7073 No, no relation. Generally referred to as 'Mad' Jack Churchill in part for his habit of going into battle armed with a broad sword, long bow and playing the bagpipes. Awarded the DSO and bar, MC and bar. A quote from him, "Any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed." An absolute nutter, died in 1996 aged 89.
Resist and bit is honestly one of their most popular live songs here in Canada. I’ve seen it in concert venues in Toronto and a festival in Montréal. The crowd hopping to the hook has the floor/ground shaking every time. Resist And Bite literally had the ground of a small island moving.
I've always had a fascination with atomic weapons. Their destructive power is terrifying and awe-inspiring. It wasn't until I was an adult that I learned that if it hadn't been for the bombs, I would not be here today. My grandfather was supposed to be in one of the first few waves to land on X-Day. Even if he wasn't outright killed by Japanese forces, the US military planned to bombard the landing zones with more atomic weaponry and then land their forces. The loss of life on all sides would have been catastrophic.
It’s always crazy to think about stuff like that. The book “Killing The Rising Sun” touches on that at the very end. O’Reilly’s father had served in the US Navy during the war. He had said on numerous occasions had nuclear armaments not been used he was fairly certain he would of been killed in the war. In turn the book would have never been written. Makes you wonder how many people wouldn’t be here today had Japan not surrendered and the war kept going.
I actually have a few stories in my family about the bombing of Hiroshima: My grandma watched it happen when she was eight years old and remembers people walking back to her village just outside of Hiroshima with their faces looking like they were melting off, even after so long she still occasionally has nightmares about it, also her father was supposed to take a train into Hiroshima that morning but missed the train due to him falling asleep at the station which saved his life, but he did suffer from survivor's guilt for some time after because a few of his friends did go into Hiroshima that day
I've been to the memorial museum and I've never seen something to destructive. For your sake, I am glad your grandparents survived but the nightmares afterwards, I cannot begin to fathom.
My Brothers wife's father, was the Radar operator on the Great Artiste which flew with Enola Gay on that mission. His plan was to be the one to drop it, but at the last minute they changed to a different crew and plane. His crew did drop the 2nd bomb as they were the crew in Bockscar People never talk that there were 3 plans that flew each mission
This was such a perfect episode: a very emotionally heavy story about the song and a very good counter-balancing banter at the end. You guys are the best!
Ah good, Indy's a man of culture - Resist and Bite is my favorite Sabaton song too. Something I would like to add is for the second bombing Nagasaki was not, in fact, the intended target. The crew flying the plane had difficulty locating the planned city (Forgot the name) due to weather reasons, mostly because it was cloudy. When they came across Nagasaki they either thought it was the targer city or they simply needed to drop the bomb, and so Nagasaki was bombed and bathed in atomic fire. Will get back once I find out the name of the city. EDIT: I must apologize, I did a research project for the atomic bombings and the planned invasion that would have taken place (Operation Downfall) and I thought I had kept my references for the project saved on my computer but apparently I deleted it at some point. Hopefully someone here will know what the city is.
Yes, Nagasaki wasn't the original target, it was Kokura. www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/the-pacific-war-1941-to-1945/the-bombing-of-nagasaki/
i love all the banter after the important dialogue has been finished. you guys love what you're doing and it shows! thank you for all the videos on this channel and all the music that spawned this channel!
That was the perfect show guys. World history and Sabaton history presented with just the right temperament. "We are chroniclers not opinionators" 👍👍👍 Thankyou🤘👍
Love this look back into History ...I have had the pleasure of seeing Sabaton twice @Scout Bar in Houston small place but Sabaton put on a Hell of a Show ...
I'm so pleased to hear that Indy's favorite song is Resist and Bite. That's also my favorite. But please wait one or two more Sabaton Cruises before you bring Indy along. I desperately need to witness that, and I'm all the way over in Ohio.
For me the most shocking thing from the atomic bombings was the shadows. The fireball was so intense that it "flashed" them permanently everywhere. These shadows where used to triangulate the exact position of the bomb detonation.
I doubt I'd be able to make the cruise, but having Indie play Sabaton songs on the piano would be amazing. I have to say I get the biggest kick out of these episodes. You guys have way too much fun on them, and I enjoy learning everything you teach. I will add that my brother let me listen to resist and bite as my introduction to Sabaton. I've been on a huge Sabaton kick ever since.
One song I would really like to see a Sabaton History episode on is The Final Solution. I feel like it would be very interesting to hear about the songwriting process for that song in particular, and how they wrote such a powerful and emotional song of such a horrific topic.
As dark as it sounds, nuclear weapons is quite a good peacekeeper, and im happy that those exist, after all there is reason why cold war is called cold
Great song and some heavy history behind it. Also, I was wondering if there's a possibility that you could make a song (or just a history video) about the RDS-220 (a.k.a "The Tsar Bomb")
there's a video from the TimeGhost where Indy talks about the tsar bomb. It's a part of the cuban missile crisis series which they're redoing atm so we may hear about it more soon. Here's the old video if yuo're interested ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ONXv4hlywtU.html
I wish you would have pointed out that Trinity was actually to test the implosion style bomb dropped on Nagasaki. Many physicists including Oppenheimer knew that at critical mass bomb like the one on Hiroshima, agreed that it would work due to scientific research and evidence. Keep up the great work Sabaton and Indy! I don't think I've learned more from any other history class, let alone musician than you guys!
GAHHHHHHHHH! The Sabaton Cruise is a lot cheaper than I'd thought it would be! I'd have a literal blast shopping for militaria in Estonia... But there's no way I could afford the flight. I'll still be coming to see you in Charlotte, NC this September if it isn't cancelled :) Big if, I suppose...
This is indeed a difference in the world. After the six of August, now 75 years. I think that this is one of the most controversial songs. Not only with the topic but also with the song itself. Still, the story needs to be told.
Really enjoy these historical videos. I like how your friend ( don't know his name) delivers the information, he makes it very interesting. Tony northern Michigan
Another interesting view to the bombings is the animated film Barefoot Gen. It’s an animated movie about a family who was in Hiroshima when the bomb was dropped . Just a warning, that film is HEAVY , definitely not something for kids .
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." - J. Robert Oppenheimer Oppenheimer didn't actually say or think that when the bomb went off. That was an invention of Oppenheimer's after the bombs were used to appease other scientists who were criticizing him for helping make the bombs. Oppenheimer's brother Frank told the official historian for Los Alamos on the day after the bomb dropped that after the bomb worked the 2 brothers who had both been working on the project and were next to each other when the bomb went off started hugging each other jumping up and down with Robert Oppenheimer saying over and over "it worked it, worked, I can believe it actually worked" It is a nice quote to have still though but entirely made up after the fact.
That’s absolutely horror what did happen with atomic bombs !!! Dankeschön to you all for telling and explaining this sad and dark part of history!!! And please send a post to us all from the cruise 🤘🏻🍻😎liebe grüße Alex skål 🍻
Nice project there at the end of the conversation. And if Joakim REALY does not know, Indy is a very accomplished pianist. And I know what I am talkin about. This would be a great idea to hear Sabaton songs covered by Indy. Go for that.
I can agree with indy resist and bite is epic. It would be the highlight of most bands careers, except sabaton are incredible and there are so many other sabaton songs that are above and beyond.
The anecdote I read was someone asked just before the Trinity shot about igniting the earth's atmosphere and Enrico Fermi whipped out his slide rule , did some quick calculations, put it back and reassured the crowd that wasn't going to happen. Evidently of such stature was Fermi that everyone looked at each other, shrugged, and donned their welder's glasses to witness the fires of creation. I like to think that creating nuclear weapons is the galactic equivalent of graduating from sentient tech high school.
Even though I know what the origin is, every time I go over what the origin of Godzilla is, once again it just....it still punches me with the horror of what it was. We think of nuclear technology one way, but we always forget...this was its debut. Its first act being this.
I had read somewhere (not sure if its true) that Tokyo was supposed to be one of the first bombing sights. The only thing that saved it was that the highest general in command went there on his honeymoon and said it was to pretty to destroy so he refused to let anyone bomb it.
The original target for Fat Man was actually Kokura, but because the weather was too cloudy they had to go to their secondary target. Which is why today a cloudy day in Kokura is called a beautiful day.
Put like that you can see where the SALT and START treaties came from. "We have enough nukes between us to destroy all life on Earth 20 times over." "How about we get rid of, say, half of them?" "Yeah, good start."
I still remember this exchange aboard the Enola Gay in flight... "What is this bomb, Colonel? Some kind of chemist's nightmare?" "Nope. That's not it." "Some kind of physicist's nightmare?" "That's closer." "Sir... Are we splitting atoms today?" "Yes we are!"
I meet a WWII vet who was Japanese POW and he told me that when he was liberated and told about the nuclear bombings he asked why they only stopped at 2
@@Death_Korps_Officer no, it would take a bit for the Soviets to develop it, US would have bombed Kyoto then Tokyo if Japan refused(though it would take months for them to build more bombs)
Unto my dying breath, I hope we never see anything like these attacks. Nuclear war is never anything a human wants. I was a nuclear mechanic aboard a US carrier. I was trained in nuclear physics and reactions. The only reason we know what happens to humans during radiation exposure is due to Hiroshima/Nagasaki and Chernobyl.
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