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Nudura ICF basement. POUR THAT FLOOR BEFORE BUILDING WALLS!!!!! 

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This video is basically just to show how easy it is to pour the ICF basement floor with only one course of blocks spray foamed to the footer. Trust me I have done this many many times both ways and every time I pour that floor when the walls are up I question my own sanity. This is worst in hot weather. The sun will reflect off the wall and the edges on that sunny side will be rock hard and the shade side edges you will be sinking in and leaving heavy foot tracks. Pouring the floor with one course avoids all that. Watch as me and the boys reach over that one block to hit all the edges and never have to get out on sliders or knee boards. Watch my other video on pouring the footers with a walk out basement all too grade with no step footing so you can pour the floor early. It's a win win guys. 👍👍
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@jtltet
@jtltet 3 года назад
Your wire is going to end up back on the bottom because they are walking all over it after the guy has picked it up. Why not use chairs to make sure it stays up?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
I tried chairs a couple times. Some plastic ones broke and other kind created a tripping hazard trying to walk over the wire mesh.
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 What is point to use mesh then at all? It will be back on bottom and have zero structural effect for slab. Better use fiber reinforced concrete then if your men can't lift their feet.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@mr.wizeguy8995 we had fibers in it also buddy. We do both. The wire does also add strength as we pull it up with the hooks.
@saraschmidt2417
@saraschmidt2417 3 года назад
@@mr.wizeguy8995 why be a hater. Wire was up one or two inches after pulled up and stepped on , just fine I have seen chairs wrecked and sometimes worse than pulling it. They did a great job in my opinion having poured over 30 years. We all need to look at the positive here he is teaching and doing a fine job...
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 3 года назад
@@saraschmidt2417 I have demoed many slab that concrete crew claimed to pulled up mesh while pour and mesh was directly on ground. Rebar chair is so cheap that there is no point to not use it because mesh need to be inside concrete not under it. But that's why you can find loads of videos here in YT when someone drive way is full of cracks.
@andrewwilks2700
@andrewwilks2700 3 года назад
Ron, thanks so much for this video. I'm building a walk out with 10' stepped ICF walls and was thinking about placing concrete in the walls and then doing the floor, but I am definitely going to suggest to the concrete crew that we do it your way. It looks so much easier.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Awesome Andrew 👍
@tadrimmey8746
@tadrimmey8746 Год назад
Ron, your videos are great! I've done concrete work years ago and this is great info for planning my ICF build.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
Awesome glad to help ya bud.
@angelmaldonado7967
@angelmaldonado7967 3 года назад
Watching a good concrete crew work is always a pleasure. You have a very talented crew.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thank you sir I appreciate that.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks I appreciate that comment. 😊
@AGTtactical
@AGTtactical 3 года назад
Wow, some real skill and pride there laying out the concrete! Wish you were in the Atlanta area. You likely know this, but Nudura's instructions state to use their low expanding foam all along the base...I'd feel better about not having blocks getting shifted off your nice strait chalk lines by doing it that way. They do it really fast...almost quicker than starting and stopping doing spots.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
I have used Nudura foam or just the great stuff foam and the blocks are rock solid they don’t move at all. Thanks buddy 👍👍
@emmacarr2519
@emmacarr2519 2 года назад
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Zack7228
@Zack7228 Год назад
Hey Bondo…..thanks again for another great video. I am more and more interested in using ICF in build my shop/garage. You mentioned the equipment you have….excavator, and a Kubota backhoe I believe? May I ask which model you have? I am about to pull the trigger on a 2017 Kubota B26TLB. I would appreciate your thoughts…. Thanks.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
Thanks steve. I have a mx 5100 with sub frame backhoe. I just got a Kubota SL65 tracked skid steer. We beat that poor tractor long enough. Lol
@iksokwel
@iksokwel 3 года назад
New subscriber. Will be watching more videos as we plan on our own build in a few years. Would love to do as much of it on our own. Learned more in the few videos I watched so far than any other foundation build so far. Good stuff!!!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback. Thanks for subscribing. I’m glad the videos are helpful. 👍😊
@danielmiller3567
@danielmiller3567 2 года назад
I love how you take your time and explain as you go. The introduction of the guys is a great personal touch. I would like to see more videos, Thanks
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Thanks Daniel I'm glad you like the videos. I got a lot of videos for you to check out.
@raybudau9920
@raybudau9920 Год назад
I like your videos. But I don't like you not pulling up the mesh. And very little use of vibrators in walls. Did this work for 45 years
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
Thanks I think? In my defense we always vibrate the heck out of ICF walls and always pull up the mesh unless it has radiant heat tubes on top then we add fibers to the concrete and the mesh just hold the tubing where we want it.
@downbya
@downbya 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate your attitude towards your guys and how you treat them, and how every third word doesn't start with F. Having spent 45 years in the trades and putting down 100's of yards of concrete and laying 1000's of blocks, I know how rare you are 😮😊 God bless you, Ron!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 5 месяцев назад
Thank you that is a real nice comment my friend.
@michaelc.3812
@michaelc.3812 3 года назад
I like your channel, Bondo, and the narration is great.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks I appreciate that buddy. 👍👍
@MrMan5014
@MrMan5014 7 месяцев назад
First rule to plumbing is shit runs down hill…second rule is bells always up hill…you have the bells of your footing drain pointed downhill which is not ideal and needless.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 7 месяцев назад
I agree we had it backwards but does it really matter? We put the drains around the house and how do we know what direction the water will run so the bell does not matter on the pipe around house just the exit line?
@steventhury8366
@steventhury8366 2 года назад
How much per yard is the water reducer? No plumbing pipes sticking up. That was nice!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
They don't charge me for the water reducer. Ya always nice with no pipes.
@omerkeshet3902
@omerkeshet3902 2 года назад
Is it possible to pour basement with foundation (Mono pour) and somehow the floor together? So no cold joints at all
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
I'm sure it could be done but I have never done it.
@faramarzmokri9136
@faramarzmokri9136 2 года назад
Could not figure the name of the drain pipe? Could some one spell it out. Thank you.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
SRD 35. I think I called it out wrong in the video.
@coronaviruspandemic7548
@coronaviruspandemic7548 2 года назад
Why put the first course of blocks on? Pour the floor slab then start the walls.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
We require a footing under the walls. it is 20" wide by 10" thick with rebar.
@carinamontano1760
@carinamontano1760 3 года назад
Such great information! Thanks!! Just found you and have watched several videos and subscribed. Please please use the tripod more! I’ve never made videos-I just watch them😄-but the movement of the camera is too much for me. I know it’s possible to get the detail you show with less movement. I love the info! I’m gonna need to take Dramamine first though.
@Z71hosestretcher
@Z71hosestretcher 2 года назад
What would be wrong with pouring the footings and the slab in one pour?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
I think it could be done but the cold joint would be where the floor meets the block. The way we did it there is 4" of floor over that cold joint.
@drepenaproject
@drepenaproject 3 года назад
This looks awesome. Though, I’m confused about the guy in the orange hat; he pulls the wire up, but then 3 guys stomp on the area immediately after working through that section. Doesn’t that negate the pulling he just did?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
The stone in the concrete gets under the wire buddy.
@drepenaproject
@drepenaproject 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 good to know, thanks for the reply. 🙂
@Kupacolypse
@Kupacolypse 11 месяцев назад
You’re a great teacher! Thanks for all these vids!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 11 месяцев назад
Glad you are watching them and learning. thanks
@yips_way
@yips_way 2 месяца назад
Hey Ron, only just realised on this video that Biscuit (now Medium Biscuit) was your son. I got withdrawal symptoms so started going through your old videos that I don't think I've watched. Pre Circle-T is how I know I haven't watched it👍
@kennethmclean3679
@kennethmclean3679 3 года назад
Is Nudura much different than Logix ICF block basements? I like how you did the floor with only 1 row of wall blocks. good idea.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
I have used both but I like Nudura way better. Much easier to pour that floor with one row down. 😊😊
@johnarchibald7559
@johnarchibald7559 3 года назад
Why don’t you use support pads for the reinforcement mesh
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Hi John. Not verry safe to walk on.
@minutemandefense3935
@minutemandefense3935 3 года назад
I'm going to comb through the comments and see if it's been addressed but how do you brace your forms from the inside if you already have concrete poured on the floor?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
We tap con fasten them to the floor. 👍👊
@minutemandefense3935
@minutemandefense3935 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 That makes sense but that would make me awful sad to drill a bunch of holes in my pretty new floor
@dreamersridge729
@dreamersridge729 3 года назад
Do you ever use the pan for the power trowel?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
No but I want to get one I hear they are great. 👍
@hughchrysler3516
@hughchrysler3516 Месяц назад
Hello! Love your video. Question 1. Why is floor poured before foundation walls? Question 2. Can you give more details on stair foundation that vanished?
@petervendetti2796
@petervendetti2796 3 года назад
What about termites????? How do you protect the I C F. ???
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
If we lived in termite area I would parge the entire wall to the footer then waterproof and backfill.
@brianrodgers5908
@brianrodgers5908 3 года назад
Bondo, I am a impressed with your video. No BS. Your lines were star right. I am working with an older laser, what do like these days?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks Brian I will look at the model and let you know.
@stevehowe9677
@stevehowe9677 3 года назад
How often do you put insulation under the slab? What are your thoughts about doing that? PS - nice video
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
We put it under there when we plan on heating the slab with in floor heat. I would always do in floor heat in our area if it were me. 👍
@stephentaylor9366
@stephentaylor9366 3 года назад
On commercial builds, some states require insulation at the corners of the slab to protect from frost. It’s actually not a bad idea to place a water membrane under the slab as they have done here. However, I would never pour a slab of this size without expansion joints, and I like locking the block to the slab with rebar I’m surprised he didn’t use them, but hey, it’s obvious he knows what he’s doing.
@WillPower78
@WillPower78 3 года назад
@@stephentaylor9366 the block is locked to the footings => 1:03
@stephentaylor9366
@stephentaylor9366 3 года назад
@@WillPower78 And how, pray tell, is it “locked?” With foam insulation, or are you referring to existing rebar extending up from footings, or is the first tier sunken into the footer? Please explain. thanks
@gregkump3639
@gregkump3639 3 года назад
@@stephentaylor9366 If you look inside the forms you can see rebar dowel coming out of footers in middle of wall. Wall will be locked to footer. Inside foam is expansion. Actually don't want slab attached to wall. Where can it go anyway?
@jessiekavanagh3453
@jessiekavanagh3453 2 года назад
Your bells on the SDR are backwards
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Yes we did. Thanks
@abefroman3903
@abefroman3903 3 года назад
wow great video nice work what is the of the footprint ft x ft also if the footer allowed would it be possible to tag down some 2x4 sleepers around the outside and attach your blocks with some angle brackets
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
You could do that but it is way faster to foam it down. If the footer is wet the foam will not stick so then I would do what you're saying.
@abefroman3903
@abefroman3903 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 thankyou just getting all the info I can .love that power screed and you got good crew everybody knows their task makes the project flow
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@abefroman3903 Thanks I appreciate the feedback bud. 👍
@John-tq4bf
@John-tq4bf 3 года назад
I noticed no penetration of sew or water lines so how are those things addressed?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L5eqaYiBzlo.html You will see the penetrations in this video. 😊👍
@JonathanHymer
@JonathanHymer 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the tips! It looks like you didn't put in the horizontal rebar in that first course of block at the time of the pad pour. Is that right? Would the rebar help stiffen up the course of block so it is less likely to move while pouring the pad? I am about to do the same type of job. Thanks!
@dagooglenet
@dagooglenet 3 года назад
no insulation under the concrete pad?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
no this customer did not want it in this house for some reason.
@jared1228
@jared1228 4 месяца назад
We've always waited until the walls were up in the roof was on. This keeps the basement from filling with water when it rains. It is code. You cant drain rain water into sewer systems. Thats the reason for waiting on basement slab. If it weren't for these restrictions everybody would pour the basement slab first....
@gregsidel3557
@gregsidel3557 9 месяцев назад
I like your video but please keep the radio off. So I can understand what you're saying and what's your profanity
@astfwp
@astfwp 3 месяца назад
Great video and appreciate all you do. I am trying to learn some tips and tricks. In regards to the wire mesh, It sounds like you are trying to lift it up so that I assume would be somewhere near the middle of the concrete as you pour. How do you keep it from getting pushed back down to the bottom as you walk on it during the leveling and screeding part?
@tompaj1620
@tompaj1620 Год назад
got my answer on how much foam to glue it down..
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
Awesome glad to help.
@tibinthankachan5248
@tibinthankachan5248 3 года назад
I am not a professional and we are planning to build a house next year. I heard in one of the videos that it is good to build walls first if not the floor might get cracks (since the wall start expands after pouring). Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
We have done this way many times with no problems. The foam will give an area for the walls or floor to expand and contrasct because it is sandwiched in between the wall and floor. 👍
@chrisanthony579
@chrisanthony579 3 года назад
The conveyor is pretty sweet, don't see them in my neck of the woods, everything gets pumped. How does the cost of the conveyor compare to pumping? I would assume half the cost????
@stephenaustin5525
@stephenaustin5525 11 месяцев назад
I have only seen a handfull of finishers as good as this crew. Mostly now in Az it's hurry , hurry hurry. Very few good finishers, I hope I am in that class. I'm 73 now EVERYTHING has changed. We had transits. Ugggggg.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 11 месяцев назад
Im 53 buddy and I started with a transit when I was 17 years old. Thank you
@lyvmyk9988
@lyvmyk9988 4 года назад
Just watched this vid. I thought it was a a unique way to pour the basement floor. A couple of questions, at the beginning you show the drain pipe with the bell end facing the downgrade and I thought the bell ends should face the upgrade, It may be different with that gasket pipe? Second do you ever use plastic rebar cradles to lift your rebar mesh off the moisture barrier?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
Hi. The bell end of the pipe don’t make much difference in this kind of pipe. And we have used rebar chairs but the plastic ones tend to break.
@jocelynparadis4182
@jocelynparadis4182 3 года назад
Nice work,will be building my own house in the spring with nudura,2000sqft per floor duplexe,no basement,i will watch more of your videos,Gatineau Quebec Canada
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Jocelyn awewsome. I have quite a few Nudura videos that should help you out. I hope you are doing Radiant heat as well. I hope you subscribe beca=use I have tons of radiant videos as well. I snopwmobile in Quebec. 😊 Well before this Pandemic that is.
@petervendetti2796
@petervendetti2796 3 года назад
If there was and existing foundation smaller home. How could you use. ICF. To tie into old foundations. With the extended new foundation. Making it a larger Foundation
@mssAmyandBeth
@mssAmyandBeth 4 года назад
You mention in your video that you like to use this method whenever possible. What would be a scenario where this wouldn't be possible?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
Sometimes I can’t get concrete in time so we have to build the walls and can’t get the floor done. I’d rather do the floor first every time if I could. 👍👍
@johnnywalter7053
@johnnywalter7053 3 года назад
Great video! Have you ever used Superform? And does that foam hold them blocks pretty good ? How often do you foam them ? Thanks for the great video
@jstkeeps
@jstkeeps Год назад
Sump crock rim should be 1" above finish floor so it doesn't act as a floor drain......
@rickyreidy6906
@rickyreidy6906 Год назад
How did you do this? Did you come out one day and pour the footers. Let it harden then come back days later. Then put the blocks up. Then poured the floor. How much time in between the events?
@outtatime4512
@outtatime4512 2 года назад
Tell me why it looks like I'm watching a Mike Day vid. Same technique exact.
@seanbedard9455
@seanbedard9455 2 года назад
Not sure who placed the SDR pipe but if it is coming from the house the pipe was laid totally wrong. The hub end or female end of the pipe is always to receive the male end in the direction of flow. I see a re-dig and replacement of this drain within 5 years. Hire a plumber next time.
@brandonpippin7461
@brandonpippin7461 3 года назад
I have a question: after you set all your wall blocks how do you set your braces with a finished floor ?? The "foot pad" needs secured, do you just drill and tapcon it into your concrete floor ?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Yes exactly Brandon. 👍 short tap cons if there is tubing in the floor.
@matthewmclean9734
@matthewmclean9734 3 года назад
We never poured a pad first, the risk of the ICF shifting is way too big, if the base block isn't square the rest of the foundation is gonna be bad.
@speedster9622
@speedster9622 9 месяцев назад
You are installing your green pipe backwards. The bell goes toward the house.
@lylecrome1265
@lylecrome1265 3 года назад
Nice work. Great site prep and excavation, cost a bit more but so much better for the crew to have room to move freely on the perimeter.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Nothing worse then when you have no room to work around a project. And did you see the size of my son Big Biscuit? LOL
@lylecrome1265
@lylecrome1265 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 oh yes! That young’n looks like he could run two mud rakes, one in each hand!! Great to be be young, strong and capable. Keep em coming really enjoy your efforts.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@lylecrome1265 Thanks. I'll have to see if he can run 2 rakes. LOL. More to come sir. 😊😊
@curtbuettner7337
@curtbuettner7337 3 года назад
Interesting way of doing that. We always mono pour the footers and slab as one; then start the ICF block build, then pour the walls.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Curt aren't you worried having that cold joint right at the floor? Like a potential leak or weak point? I thought of doing that and creating a key way for the walls to pour down into the floor a little bit. How many have you guys done that way? thanks Bondo 👍
@gregkump3639
@gregkump3639 3 года назад
Be ok slab on grade. Wouldn't work here for a basement. To wet and no perk soil.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@gregkump3639 I agree
@AGTtactical
@AGTtactical 3 года назад
Added a like and subscribe! Why do you like Nudura over the others? I know they are the only manufacturer with a 96" block, which is really cool and must help keep the walls straighter.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
thanks for subscribing buddy. 👍 here is an older video explaining why i like Nudura better. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OpMnqP4trQ0.html
@ricsoares8169
@ricsoares8169 Год назад
Took me years to finally try one of those pro metal foam guns that you screw the foam cans to. Once i used it i realized ive been wasting my money and foam w the cans w plastic straw. Will never use the plastic straw again. Many reasons to use the cans w the metal gun.
@johnstaudacher7752
@johnstaudacher7752 10 месяцев назад
Nice job, you only did one thing wrong. The bell of the pipe goes toward the water source.
@craigclemson9642
@craigclemson9642 3 года назад
Good channel real stuff no show but all GO
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thans Craig. We have to keep moving. LOL 😊😊
@fliipso
@fliipso 3 года назад
Cool video. Pouring floor first is a great idea unless you have in floor heating... then I'd wait. Looks good tho.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks 😊 You can do it with radiant just use short tap cons only about 2-1/2 “ and they will hold fine and not be neart the tubing. 👍
@atmueller
@atmueller 4 года назад
Subscriber 852! Keep up with the great content and this will take off quick! Could you do a video on difference concrete mixes ie 3000 vs 4000 vs fiber reinforced and what it means to a homeowner and the longevity of their house? I keep hearing on videos that builders use the cheapest concrete available to save money and want to know what that means for the life of the house. Thanks!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
Thats a good video idea thanks. 👍
@ottomatic9324
@ottomatic9324 2 года назад
will water leak betwern the cold joint of the footer and wall or between the flloor and instalatiom?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
No we have a drain around these and the water will go to drain first because it is below the top of the footer.
@ottomatic9324
@ottomatic9324 2 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 Thank you I never dealt with ICF before but Im looking into it. I appreciate you answering my question.
@appealingsigns
@appealingsigns 3 года назад
What state are you in Do you work in Wisconsin?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
No sorry I live and work in upstate New York.
@bob_frazier
@bob_frazier 3 года назад
At first I gave this a thumbs down, as I could not see how the lower course would hold. Boy was I wrong, this does look like a better sequence. Thumbs up!!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks we have done this so many times and it never moves 👍
@raoulroberts2024
@raoulroberts2024 9 дней назад
Smooth as silk. Nicely done, Bondo. 👍🏾
@AndyFromm
@AndyFromm 3 года назад
29:39 🤣😅😂 I can relate to that
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Ya Evin is hilarious 😂 🤣 😆
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
@devmeistersuperprecision4155 9 месяцев назад
I am new to this foam form system. I have a 5 ft frost line. If you use the foam footer and foam wall, would that be called a frost protected wall and would this reduce the depth of a standard stem wall?
@dalethornton1113
@dalethornton1113 2 года назад
Great video Bondo, like your calm and cool demeanor with your guys, I've had so many subs (one time) that scream and yell and run ragged when it doesn't have to be that way. Here in the pacific northwest we use Fox blocks and Build block. I started with Quadlock because that's all I could get 25 years ago. May try Nudura but it always comes down to price and shipping. I'm only 2 hours from a Foxblock factory. Great job, glad I found you and I'll subscribe and watch some more.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Thanks Dale I appreciate that bud. I don't get to fired up unless I am loosing a floor and the guys are standing there leaning against the cumalong LOL All I have to do is change my tone and they know we better get moving. LOL
@hansstofberg43
@hansstofberg43 8 месяцев назад
Nice job . But I would insist on having the wire well off the bottom
@robertwoelk26
@robertwoelk26 10 месяцев назад
Have you done a complete house. Single? 2 story?
@dhoop688
@dhoop688 Год назад
I recognized that truck lol. My former coworkers.
@mikegrant8031
@mikegrant8031 4 года назад
@cpad007
@cpad007 4 года назад
Ditto as well. I have 1968 SOG ranch that I plan to do the exact same thing. ICF to the roof!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
Thanks for subscribing. Sounds like a nice build. if you got any questions along the way hit me up. 👍👍
@patrickmajka5169
@patrickmajka5169 2 года назад
Starting my own build soon. I Have done step footers before and do not like doing that extra step! Do you leave the OSB on? Or strip it? Also how do you get rigid insulation on that poured frost footer?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
You can strip it if you want but I don't worry about it. We do not have termites though. You do not need foam because the footer is below frost line.
@endres689
@endres689 3 года назад
Wish I had thought of this when I did my ICF basement. I had 9'-4" walls up and the deck on, and I had to wheelbarrow over 16 yards of concrete, the truck chute could only get a small part of it and I was too poor to afford a pump truck twice (once for the floor, once for the walls). Should have done it this way and saved myself a lot of headache. Also would have been a whole lot easier to build the house afterwards. Kudos to you. Good idea and good job.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Jon thanks buddy. Yes that’s why I put these videos out to save people from some of my headaches and mistakes I’ve learned along the way. I never had RU-vid when I started. We did floors the hard way for years. Lol 👍👍
@jaybee3418
@jaybee3418 3 года назад
- Hi, what do you mean by “easier to build”? I’m about to start construction and trying to find the best ways.
@endres689
@endres689 3 года назад
@@jaybee3418 I built a timber frame, and all of the rough work was done in the basement with a stone floor. I poured the slab after the frame was up. It would have made it a lot easier to do the work on a solid slab instead.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@jaybee3418 it’s much easier to pour the floor first. You can trowel all the edges from the outside and also there is a nice floor to work on while putting up the walls. 👍👍
@michaellewis876
@michaellewis876 Год назад
Question Why don't u just use the Pvc Chairs to Set up the middle point of the slab for the Reo mesh. Every other Concretor That's good does this & vibrates the Slab.
@MrThidj901
@MrThidj901 11 месяцев назад
its easy to put shims under the wire grid. the guy may be trying to put it up a bit but everyone is walking back on it after he passed.
@thereadinesschannel7610
@thereadinesschannel7610 Год назад
Whoever made the “ tits jiggling” joke near the end deserves a medal lol…maybe I missed it but what keeps the forms in place with concrete slab pushing on them. It didn’t look like they were filled with any mud. Spray Foam strong enough? I watched a video where a guy did his slab after walls built and this looks like a far superior way to do it
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 Год назад
The spray foam holds it real secure to footer.
@DerrickPatrick-k3m
@DerrickPatrick-k3m 8 месяцев назад
what is better 6 in or 8in walls
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 8 месяцев назад
8" is cost is no factor.
@EdwardTilley
@EdwardTilley 3 года назад
Chementae ... I would have never thought the foam moulds would hold the weight. Did you mention the brand of adhesive you used?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Edward we just use the great stuff foam you can buy it at the big box stores. Not the window and door the regular kind. It’s rock solid when it dries. Can't be done if footer is wet though.
@stephentaylor9366
@stephentaylor9366 3 года назад
Edward, make certain that you buy the type that can be used with oil based products! There are different types of foam insulation. It should tell you on the can whether it can be used with foam materials. If you use the wrong kind, it will destroy your ICF block !
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@stephentaylor9366 Good info right there 👍
@rodeskelson
@rodeskelson 3 года назад
What about plumbing?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
It’s a full basement plumbing will be in wood floor above. 👍
@Alphasig336
@Alphasig336 3 месяца назад
Don’t know how many time I saw him shake off foam snot and immediately step on it. I hate getting that foam on my boots.
@arthuralzamora7331
@arthuralzamora7331 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the videos - very informative & helpful! You answer a lot of questions! Great videos!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 9 месяцев назад
Glad to help.
@alangordon1677
@alangordon1677 10 месяцев назад
Question: What are the cuts for, and do they go right through the concrete and wire mesh?
@aarondonaldson4164
@aarondonaldson4164 3 года назад
Problem with watching a 30 veteran doing this, it makes us never done it before guys think we can do it. Then we go and make a pig's ear out of a silk purse.😂
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Ya there is quite a learning curve to concrete work. I tell people to start with small pours and work up bigger slabs as you sharpen your skills. 👍😊
@chanceschiewe5733
@chanceschiewe5733 2 года назад
How are you able to brace the walls to the pad if needed? Say you did not have enough room on the outside perimeter to do it.
@pingpong9656
@pingpong9656 2 года назад
I can see you pull the mesh up, but when you walk over during screeding, does that not push it back down? Is the aim to get some of it up a bit?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
It does go down but the stone in the concrete holds it up enough to reinforce the slab. We also use fibers in our slabs a lot of times.
@robertatkins272
@robertatkins272 2 года назад
It’s been a while since I’ve worked with ICF’s but I know the spray foam trick work’s really well. I’m curious if the floor could be poured with the footer, monolith, like the slab on grade we have in the south?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
I think it could be done but it would leave a cold joint right at the floor and an area for water to get in easier maybe???
@adamwilliams8998
@adamwilliams8998 2 года назад
Great Video!!! Will this method work with in floor heat? As I can only imagine it would be tough to do the nice work you did with heater lines coming out of the floor?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Yes it will work with radiant. Just use 2-1/2" tap con fasteners so you can't hit tubing. It's down 4"
@markm6488
@markm6488 3 года назад
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@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks Mark
@jeffmarett321
@jeffmarett321 3 года назад
My question is why don't you pour the footers and floor before adding the ICF blocks and walls?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Well thats exactly what we did. pored the footers then added one course then poured the floor. Not sure what your talking about buddy?
@jeffmarett321
@jeffmarett321 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 I've only done this once. But I helped a guy do an ICF basement. He did a monolith footer/floor pour with rebar standing up out of the concrete. Then put the first, second, etc. courses of ICF's right on top of the floor with the rebar inside the ICF's. It made the screeding and finishing a little easier because there was no ICF course in the way. What is your opinion on that? He used Logix that has the long metal web that lays horizontally inside the ICF's to keep them straight.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@jeffmarett321 The only reason I have not done that is the cold joint is right at the floor where it meets the wall instead of up 4” up the wall. The floor locks the walls in. Maybe a keyway in the floor for the wall to pour into?
@jeffmarett321
@jeffmarett321 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 Cool, thank you!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@jeffmarett321 No problem buddy. 👍
@conradhomestead4518
@conradhomestead4518 3 года назад
Great resource with this video! Thanks for sharing!!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
No problem. Your welcome. 😊
@brocharumplestilskin4513
@brocharumplestilskin4513 Год назад
I sure wish you guys worked in North Carolina
@davidpatrick3533
@davidpatrick3533 4 года назад
How do you attach the ICF bracing to the concrete floor without dinging up the finish with concrete fasteners?
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
David Patrick we use two small 1/16” tap cons in each foot. A little dab of mortar in the holes and they about disappear.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
David Patrick it’s in my other video us doing it buddy. 👍
@davidpatrick3533
@davidpatrick3533 4 года назад
Thanks for the info. Small world. I see you guys use Vitale! So do we... We're in the Geneva area.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 4 года назад
David Patrick I’m in Mexico area. Vittalle is a good company to work with. 👍👍 Been tough year to get concrete though. I had to use a couple other companies a few times.
@michaelmaas5544
@michaelmaas5544 2 года назад
The mesh sitting on the bottom of the concrete is doing absolutely nothing
@jakeweibe8333
@jakeweibe8333 3 года назад
You're not a Concrete Finisher when you have a water bottle in your hand and use water continuously that is not good for the concrete you use water only if you have to. We called them water boys
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Well i guess I’m a water boy because when its hot we spritzer a little water as we finish to close up the little rock holes. I been one for 30 years then. LMAO. 😂
@ranbirsingh6189
@ranbirsingh6189 3 года назад
Have you used Nudura series one and any experience with helix microbar in the walls? Great content.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
Thanks I have not tried these products yet. I would like to though.
@bcadventurz
@bcadventurz 2 года назад
Great idea only setting on course of forms before pouring!
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 2 года назад
Thanks
@richardschipper5989
@richardschipper5989 3 года назад
So why did you install the drain pipe backwards? The bell end always goes up hill
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
These pipes have an internal gasket so it doesn’t make a difference. They are a pain to get together so we backfill away from the house and spray WD40 or Pam cooking spray on the rubber gasket and pipe and smack it together with a 2x6 and a mall. We check each pipe so it has pitch away from the basement. Thanks for the question. 👍
@ronwakula6737
@ronwakula6737 3 года назад
@@bondobuilt386 It does matter.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
@@ronwakula6737 ok but it’s been running water for a couple months. Also how does a coupler work in a perimeter drain? Isn’t that essentially the same thing. Also the entire perimeter-drain is installed level so which direction do you face the bells on those pipes? Water can flow either direction in the inner and outer drain system? Then all that multi directional water flowing into the exit line to daylight. Not sure why it would matter but I like to learn so help me understand. Thanks for the feedback 👍👍
@ckellyarnold845
@ckellyarnold845 3 года назад
Have you poured an ICF floor on crawl space w piers
@jimwilliamson7598
@jimwilliamson7598 3 года назад
Bell ends have to be upstream to code. Those gasketed pipes do get roots. I have repaired many.
@bondobuilt386
@bondobuilt386 3 года назад
I cant argue that buddy 👍👍
@kenactofkindness4017
@kenactofkindness4017 3 года назад
6 x 6 ground cover 87 percent contrators never pull it up fully cringe anumal cave man construction again ahah
@kenactofkindness4017
@kenactofkindness4017 3 года назад
one of the best slumps ever seen in 40 years on slab , smart guys with platic under, bleed water extreme low kool
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