@@ThatMarkGilroy For me, it's not only that, but also an aesthetic improvement. The Keychron to me looks too.... work oriented. The NuPhy just looks fun.
7:21 I don’t remember the first keyboard I had from an actual computer but I remember that it was a Windows 98 machines that eventually upgraded to XP. I don’t remember if the keyboard was from Compaq or Gateway/HP. It was a fully-featured desktop PC (that came with a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers). Also, I don’t mind the “bezel” look of the Air75. I prefer it over the Keychron “borderless” style.
love your reviews! im preordering this right now, ive been typing on laptops all my life so im so used to this profile. i have a custom mx swoop keyboard, i bit off way more than i could chew and think a traditional keyboard is a better entry point for me :)
Excellent review! I wish they would make a laptop style layout version of it. Just move that Fn key to the left side of the Space key, after the Ctrl key so it is: Ctrl-Fn-Opt-Cmd SPACE Cmd-Opt.
Great review! I’ve got this ordered and should arrive in a few days, however slightly nervous with how I’m going to get on with its ANSI layout as I’ve only been used to ISO UK layout. Was it an easy transition for you?
@@ThatMarkGilroy One upgrade they could do is storing the usb dongle on the keyboard itself, with like a pushing mechanism on the sides so that it sits flush.
I have the air75 v1 and 96 v1…best keyboards I ever used, and I started to dabble in mech keyboards before these. I’m going to hold on the v2 since it’s not much of an upgrade from my 96 v1. Going from a air75 v1 to v2 seems like a decent upgrade tho
If you check my most recent comparison video for low-profile keyboards you'll see a full sound test with this keyboard + wisteria switches. That's probably your best bet for quiet + a bit of a tactile bump/click. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ObbWxSVsa4.html
The Azio Cascade Slim looks even better than the K3 but no idea how good it really is, not enough information on their page. Bought the Air75 V2 cause gaming, linux, programming is all covered.
Yes the Azio range look really smart - I've been looking at their retro range for a while. Possibly form over function though?! As you say there's not a lot of information on their site.
Which new switch of theirs are similar to the traditional blue switches? Is it the wisteria ? P.s, love the edits of the video man. It’s very smooth and quite pleasing.
Thanks buddy. You can fit this with Blues if you like that feel/sound- they pre lube them so they come sounding really crispy (my original Air75 had blues on). Wisteria and Moss are both more like browns but with a different actuation force.
This will be about a 30 second video. They’re practically identical apart from two key things - looks/styling, and audio signature. I found the K3 Pro far too noisy (even with the brown switches) in the end.
So do you change the language to UK for the keyboard? I have always wanted a Nuphy Air75, but I am too used to ISO :( . Just thinking about the lack of the £ for example.
Personally I like the border. I think having some border frames the Kaps. Personally & obviously my own opinion I see borderless keyboards as being cheap.. I guess thats because I have boards I have built that have cost me £600+ & when you spend £300 on a case I want to actually see it, hear it & feel it.
Thanks buddy. Wisteria or Brown are your best bet for the quietest switches. If you're going for the V2 and you go with Wisteria switches you can expect it to be even quieter than the V1 set I show in this video as you'll have the benefit of the added dampening in the V2 board too. It's worth noting I tested this on my deskmat so that has absorbed some of the sound.
@ThatMarkGilroy quick question for you, does the backlight of the black V2 match the brightness levels of the V1. I received the black V2 from the discord giveaway and while comparing the backlight to that of the V1, I noticed that the black V2 at max brightness is only comparable to the level one brightness of the V1. Others on the discord channel report then ionic white V2 to be brighter than the V1.
I think they’d be right - I have the ionic white Air 96 and it seems brighter than this. The key (!) difference is that I wasn’t able to test the shinethrough keycaps- these should level the playing field if you prefer the darker look of the basalt black option.
@@ThatMarkGilroy thanks for checking, I get that black absorbs light and it could be a reason why the keyboard looks dimmer but then comparing just the sidelights of the V1 and V2 shows the V2 is much dimmer so I was concerned if it’s a manufacturing issue. Hopefully the shine through caps help. Cheers
Did you see my Keychron K3 Pro review? I really liked the keyboard as an upgrade to the K3v2 but there's nowhere near enough sound-dampening in the out-of-the-box version. It's very, very noisy by comparison to other low-profile boards I've tried, even using brown switches. So no - other than the flush look of the K3 Pro, I much prefer this one. Here's the link to save you searching ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rGl8S7mE38Y.html
What's the TLDR for V1 vs V2 difference? I can't believe I could find a web page that shows exactly that. PS: So, I had to watch the video and it seems * 5.1x USB polling late * New key colour * Back metal plate * QMK * Bigger battery * New feet Seems like except the QMK, all useless to me.
Hi! There’s a comparison table right at the bottom of the Nuphy product page (linked in description). It’s not just the plate that’s new in the board makeup. The board has PCB IXPE plus silicone under the space bar which does give it quite a different feel to type on and sound absorption compared to V1. If you have the V1 switches you’ll also notice a difference as the 2.0 switches have different springs and are pre lubed. But, if you’re just after the new switches, you can buy a new set for the V1.
really thanks a lot for the review. i have a quick question does the typing easier than v1 cause I purchased v1 and made a lot of typo mistakes . so is it the case with v2 ?
Thanks buddy. Yes, it's different to know for sure whether this was the new board vs the different switches but I made signifantly fewer typos on the V2 with these Daisy switches vs the V1 with the Wisteria switches installed.
Yes I’ve tried it with gaming with the dongle and it performs well. I’m going to be doing another comparison with this vs some of its closest competitors very soon so I’ll make sure I include some sort of latency test.
Yep a lot of people do! I’ll be making a comparison between the new Keychron K3 Max (they have so many K3 models now it’s getting baffling) alongside the Lofree Flow and Nuphy 75v2 in the next couple of weeks.
I imagine Nuphy will slowly upgrade all their boards to be VIA compatible as it offers so much flexibility for the user. Given the Air 75 was their first (OK maybe second) big success, the Air60 shouldn’t be too far away.
They’re both linear but different in terms of travel (to be expected given this is low profile) and actuation force too. Aloes should be faster if you’re thinking of using this for gaming. Aloe specs: travel distance pre-travel: 1.7±0.4mm total travel: 3.2+0.2mm force operating force: 37±15gf end force: 40±5gf Cherry Silver specs: Travel distance pre travel: 1.2 ‡0.4 mm total travel 3.4 +0.4 mm Force 45 +25 gf
I just got this keyboard yesterday. Bought it for office work. Im surprised how badly the 2.4ghz connection works with constant double input and missed input. Will try update the firmware later.
@warnacokelat yeah. Hopefully that’ll sort it. Funnily enough I had the same problem with standard Bluetooth connection in the last couple of days which needed a firmware update to sort.
@@ThatMarkGilroya bit nervous to update the firmware. Cant find any how to video on the web to guide step by step. Edit: figured out that the steps are same for qmk boards. Plenty of guides.
I like everything besides the back. I hate the transculent back and orange feet, imo it looks horrible and cheap :x But luckily I don't often look at the back of my keyboards and love everything else so I am patiently waiting for my own Air75 V2.
I have the ionic white V2 on preorder and I'm going to be swapping the switches out for Daisy as son as I can. I thought I was a tactile fan but these Daisy switches are 👌
Unclear. Apparently it’s on the roadmap but no firm timeline. For now, having VIA means you can map an ISO layout to the keyboard as is (it’s how I’ve set mine up in UK ISO format). The only catch is the key sizes on ISO.
@@DNNYRCRDS If you want this board with the full ISO layout, that’s the way to do it. There are a ton of good quality Etsy sellers who make Nuphy compatible low profile keycaps. Check out seller called Keycapsupreme.
Daisy has the absolute lowest actuation force/travel. Then Aloe, then the others. They're very similar linear switches. I thought my review unit was Aloe until I took the keycaps off - hence the correction on screen!
Pretty sure Version 1 of the Air75 never had this key either? And with VIA you can remap any of the other keys to perform the globe/apple FN key command.
@@ThatMarkGilroy I have left the same comment in multiple reviewers video and you are the only one that replied(cares about the feedback and the quality of reviews). 😀
@@ThatMarkGilroy Not sure what happens to my first reply. air75 v1's fn key is the globe key. v2 is using qmk, so it loose the globe key. The reason behind this is complicated. Simply put, qmk does not support globe key. There does exist a patch that adds apple fn key support but it will not work when using bluetooth and it also requires the user to build the firmware, which may not be easy for non-developers .
@@ThatMarkGilroy Yes, you can use the capslock as the globe key but it is far from ideal because then you loose the capslock. The only option left is to use some third-party key mapping software like karbiner. But it needs to install its kernel modules, which personally I do not like. For nuphy, I guess 2.4g may/should work with the patched qmk firmware though.
Sorry, no. Based on RTINGS V1 tests you can expect Around 1-2ms over wireless 2.4gz for V2. And close to zero over wired. This is rapid for this kind of all rounder board, but if you need even lower latency, check out their Field 75 which is their dedicated gaming keyboard
Lofree or Nuphy for me. Lofree feels like the serious alternative, Nuphy's a much more-fun option and the customisation for keycaps/switches is superb,
The Nuphy console (windows only) is being phased out. This is VIA compatible (and presumably future Nuphy products) will be), so you’re good for Mac & Linux as well as Windows.
DO NOT BUY THESE! Buy the LoFree Flow. It is INCREDIBLE!!! I have the dark grey Tactile version. Flawless. Truly no complaints. I work at a desk for 8 hours a day with AWS and love it for just that. I use my high profile custom boards at house for gaming though. LoFree 4 ever.
@@Kaylas1821 50ms!? I do not know where you got that from but that is not the case with mine. Solid feedback with typing. The entire board feels premium. Not a single component or piece of material looks or feels gaudy. The only thing that I can imagine being a complaint are silly things like "I dont like how the feet are fixed" or "other keyboards have a 3 week battery life instead of 1."
@@cryptik_official from one of the tests. Sadly modern reviewers ignore some important technical details and tests, so no other tests to confirm that. This input lag number forced me towards the nuphy air v2 instead of the Lofree Flow.
