NVIDIA on Linux and Why it works for me | Wayland | Fedora 40 | Gnome | 

perfect summary!

Unfortunately Linux users really are toxic half of the time, it's cancer. I found this subreddit called like r/fucklinux or r/linuxhate or something, and it was just people shitting on linux / the issues with usability on the OS / the linux community overall. I truly believe this subreddit would not exist if linux users pushed for mainstream adoption while still being reasonable and acknowledging some of the issues with linux for the average user. I'm a relatively competent computer user, and I'm on fedora right now; I promise, there are issues with it. Even things like fractional scaling are dogshit compared to windows and mac. To be fair, the community has improved a ton in the past few years, but the damage has been done to a certain extent lol.

It's true that the price difference isn't as good as it used to be but oftentimes AMD still has better rasterization for the price if you're like me and don't absolutely need Nvidia's feature set. I say this as someone who primarily grew up with Nvidia and I currently have a 1050 ti and 3050 ti Mobile with a measly 4 GB. I'm excited to build with a 7900 GRE in the future. I remember when AMD used to be terrible on Linux and have flickering because I first used Linux on Intel integrated graphics and AMD's HD series which was old even at the time. AMD may have more seamless user space integration for everyday use, but you still have to fuss with things like OpenCL modules for productivity and even certain games need Pro drivers so it's not as perfect as many Linux AMD users claim it is. Nvidia drivers and Wayland integration are getting better all the time and I've been impressed with how well newer cards play with Linux but older ones may not play as nice. It's funny that AMD used to be terrible and Nvidia was seen as better but then the stigma flipped. The AMD stigma on Windows and Nvidia stigma on Linux are pretty similar and outdated because the drivers in both cases have improved a lot.

Your goddamn right

ya 555 solved em all

Also you said plasma issue, that is already solve in the beta (6.0.90) and upcoming 6.1 (will release this week) So all the nvidia problems that people talk about are completing gone in both desktop environments. I choose Nvidia because the same laptop with a amd was 1.5 times more expensive (like +500€), glad I did because 555 make dGPU actually usable on Wayland (I also use cuda for Robotics and AI stuff and is crazy fast) My laptop: Legion 5 with AMD ryzen 7 5800H + rtx 3070

Right

see it's that toxic shit from linux users that give linux a bad name

Dam right

Very nice

This was the biggest thing for me. It's so nice.

glad nvidia treats you well

the song used is in the description at the bottom

@@pip5528 woot also 560 is even better!

Also some extra software needed to make the experience better on NVIDIA is usually disastrous. Sometimes the software is not made or packaged for you distro. You would say no problem right just compile it yourself? But also don't expect your average person to know how to compile software. Even if it's documented software, the compiling process might only be logical towards programmers who are used to it.

Feel free to stop by the discord and make any guides if they are still needed

yuppers

Thank you

Those are user errors not nvidia errors your friend should be on nobara

@@manadecide I couldn't use Wayland on Arch, would not boot at all. Same thing with Mint. But when I tried Ubuntu yesterday, I gave Wayland a shot. It was bootable and flickered quite often. I went to the Nvidia website, downloaded the 560 drivers and Wayland now works flawlessly on my Ubuntu. Id say try out the 560 drivers and maybe try another distribution that might have better Wayland integration.

people have little to no common sense it happens

seems to be the norm with nvidia

i can't play cp2077 without RT it's so ugly

well windows uses explicit sync and so does macos so it has to bet better haha

Sisters? Huh what are you on about

haha that was a joke

These are kde issues no longer nvidia issues as nvidia fixed all these bugs on their side

i guess i have to do a new one

Right

You're delusional, I used both AMD & nVidia both run the same for me

calling someone delusional for their experience really... so you are fine with being part of the problem? Do better

Yeah, that could just be a bug a visual one check nvtop

@@Mattscreative Sadly it's not, nvtop reporting 100w as well as Mission Center and my widget.

Switch to the second bios on the gpu and boot

Very nice

Wait what kinda laptops have a AMD Dedicated Graphics unit?????? i need tah know! only thing ive seen was framework…

not everyone is lucky sadly just keep trying but maybe cachyos is better for you so try that

@@Mattscreative i'm going to swap over to fedora plasma 6 i just watched the video on how you changed your desktop look it's awesome but do you have a video were i can install nvidia wayland from a stock install

i have lots of videos on installing nvidia on fedora

CachyOS has the beta drivers right out of the box, its stupid easy in that regard.

mint is fine if it suits your needs

@@paulj505 I have a 940mx, can I use it in mint? Because my old machine is a gt 740m, when I run the game it never says gpu is in use in mangohud.

as i said you need 555 and Xwayland 24.1 and all issues are solved

@@Mattscreative I'm aware that NVidia has been doing a lot of work to fix the core issue, which is great! I just wanted to highlight that the explicit/implicit sync flickering issues unfortunately spilled from Wayland to Xorg during this year despite most sources claiming that the only Wayland / Xwayland are affected.

yes they can 555 fixes all the wayland issues even issues with gamescope and more it's been a perfect experience

@@Mattscreative for me it did a lot but still has some glitching in Chromium and the typical Ubisoft Connect window not rendering properly persists.

that should not happen at all weird could be something else also

@@Mattscreative maybe. I'm back at X11 anyway because DaVinci Resolve hotkeys don't work on Wayland even when its window is focused.

They work fine for me in wayland

i don't get that bug

@@Mattscreative finally worked out what it was. Specific to Brave Browser - need to enable Wayland in the flags. Fixed.

Nvidia all would have solved all your pain

Gnome 46

intel cpu's are not easier then amd they are on the same page and just work

That’s a you issue

that's great to hear

thats epic

Hey, thanks!

my first ati card was some 2mb card i think

the slow road to linux is the best road

all fixed minus the android one cause the devs of waydroid are nvidia haters so they won't fix that

@@MattscreativeWhat I meant by (3) is the default emulator that comes with Google's Android Studio. Is waydroid that?

google just ignores nvidia again it's up to google to add support not nvidia

1: it’s proven that amds recording ability is less then nvidia 2: amd has no cuda or anything even close to 3: it’s av1 is in an infant state. 4: amd performance is worse and they also have wayland issues heck amd is having explicit sync issues right now. 5: anything content creation wise nvidia just does better and they always have. Its not being a fanboy it’s called being honest and you can get mad and upset trust me it’s all these new kids do but that won’t change anything

See exactly that, what you espoused is a fandom for Nvidia. People just want things to work. All of the 400 series drivers either worked or regressed in varied situations. Especially under wayland. I am amd and I was Nvidia and got tired of every update to the driver or os causing breaks in gaming. My latest laptop is amd 6800m. I won't be switching for a minute, but I don't have Nvidia bias if it works.

@Mattscreative I'm having no amd issues under wayland. I don't encode, so I don't care about that. And my 6800m laptop performs on par with a 3080 laptop.

@@dewaynehowse231 Oh your starving??? Well im not so i dont care. thats basically payback

@@asphalt2554 🤣🤣🤣

Nobara

Gnome is dam good for nvidia

Sounds like a skill issue use the nvidia iso for install and head to the nobara discord for help

i have videos on resolve go watch those they can help

@@Mattscreative I got it working just now, all it needed was alsa plugins pulseaudio

crowdstrike incident

Pushing to linux full time might take learning if your apps and games will work or not so make a list about everything you need ok

@@Mattscreative I did watch your video a little while ago about switching and making a list of things where you deleted your windows at the end, and for the most part things do work for me in a linux system but i always run into inconsistancies though for me the moment I step out of Steam and want to setup games manually in say Lutris or Heroic sometimes winecfg wont load or sometimes winetricks doesnt load usuaully a reboot fixes. Its a bit strange I should probably try Bottles maybe when im next in it maybe thats better to use.

Then make it work

@@Mattscreative Done, followed your Nobara 40 guide at 2:00 am, thanks. Now I just need for my graphics cards to open programs by default instead of when requested.

Amd cpus is amazing on linux

AMD CPUs are killing it.

I'm using an Intel core I7-12700f. Works amazing with Linux and have had no issues with cpu bound games like Minecraft, or any cpu related task in a day to day workflow. I've never used an AMD CPU but I might try on out in a couple years.

Thats a plasma issue it will be fixed soon

@@Mattscreative lets go

can't way sadly it changes due to system updates

@@Mattscreative i joined your discord channel and installed everything with no problem 😁

sounds like that 2060 needs to be replaced or new thermal paste or a new cooler

@@Mattscreative not really, maybe the thermal paste but its more likely because its a gigabyte prod 💀

My rtx 4070 is gigabyte and it has the ebst cooler i could ask for ..

@@Mattscreative rtx 2060 gib has issues and I didn’t know until I bought it 😢 plus I live in a tropical country where the ambient gpu temp is 42° 💀

Nvidia fixed a ton of issues that linus had

@@Mattscreativethat’s reassuring. I’ll be following you on Discord and your RU-vid channel to see how far you get using Linux. So far I’m liking your content and I’m encouraged to daily drive Linux again.

great news remember to apply the linux role in the rules channel

Ok will do

no idea never tried

Appreciate it!

some people got lucky with the kwin patch but not me

@@Mattscreative damn... I guess you'll have to wait for the actual release then

tried the 6.1 beta and same issues

Arch, KDE 6.1 beta, no major issues here.

and now it needs to stop if they want linux to grow

@Mattscreative sadly just like stuff outside of computers, it's not going to stop. Like the car community. Wrx sti vs evo. Gtr vs. supra. Domestic vs. import. It's the same even with iPhone vs. android. Even if we stop it, companies will try to bring it back because competition brings money. Fan boys bring money.

and it's time for it to stop lol

@Mattscreative sadly the toxicity just comes with the package. We all hate it, but as long as you have a community. Sports fans can definitely be toxic, but without fans, who will come to the games or buy your merchandise? It's still a business at the end of the day. You pray for rain, you get mud too. Sadly, fan boys are just another way of saying "loyal customer base."

Downgrade nice

@@Mattscreative RTX 4090 => Windows, RX 7900XTX => Linux. Just from scratch without tinkering the OS, Linux (or nvidia linux drivers) does not seem to know what to do with the power of a RTX 4090, but it uses fully the AMD. I still don't know how and why. Both GPUs were associated with the same Ryzen 7800x3D.

I use 3 monitors and all is fine

@@Mattscreative manjaro (dont flame me) with nvidia and x11. Ill try unstable branch and the new drivers. Maybe even wayland if possible.

should probably switch to wayland when 555 drivers come out, it has much better multimonitor support especially with the current "stable drivers" breaking x11 in my experience.

Welcome aboard! and thank you!

use vesktop for discord and teams iis special and weird

@@Mattscreative appreciate the response, but … nah, same behaviour with vesktop

@@Varen246 555 drivers are still in beta and they have bugs to iron out. There's issues with firefox and just windows flickering and not being smooth to drag in KDE. That's why I rolled back to 550 for now until Nvidia fixes these. Super excited for 555 once again.

@@crabnix I am absolutely aware of that, its just everyone saying 555 fixed everything - well it has fixed a lot of things, but there‘s things that don‘t work reliably, and I agree with you. I switched back to X11, since everything works fine there

@@Varen246 one day. I dream of the day when Nvidia isn't a dick anymore, and everything just works perfectly. Surely one day.

ya

For you

In my discord

Why do you assume every human being uses Discord?

@@ransan you asked where the wallpaper was. Either you want it or you don’t.

that is where i put everything if you don't want to use it don't

Sounds like you messed up and configured it wrong i know a lot of 4090 users getting more out of linux vs windoes

actually it's working much better since I updated the proprietary driver

so, thanks for this, made me go back and check some things

also I use 3060, and I prefer nVidia by a lot as well for the same reasons

check my discord for how apply the linux role

Wayland is better with the right drivers and Xwayland 24.1 lol

ya and the sooner it stops the better

Why are you triggered lol chill

@@Mattscreative just picture the bug eyed snowflake chick screaming............. amd reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

eww no thanks haha

Hes joking dude ​@@Mattscreative