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UPDATE: 1. When installing the grip, pay closer attention to use the screws that are included with the base and not the grip. They are slightly larger and will hold better. 2. With this, it is unlikely the grip can separate. 3. My reference to the part wearing out due to use, was reference to an extreme case and a general statement rather than highlighting a specific case. 4. The current version of the NXT base includes ball bearings internally for the gimbal action. 5. and finally, as I said numerous times in the video, ABS plastic is not an indication of cheap construction. TLDR. I think the NXT is a great value, I believe they are built well and are solid performer.
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Final 11:14

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@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

UPDATE: 1. When installing the grip, pay closer attention to use the screws that are included with the base and not the grip. They are slightly larger and will hold better. 2. With this, it is unlikely the grip can separate. 3. My reference to the part wearing out due to use, was reference to an extreme case and a general statement rather than highlighting a specific case. 4. The current version of the NXT base includes ball bearings internally for the gimbal action. 5. and finally, as I said numerous times in the video, ABS plastic is not an indication of cheap construction. TLDR. I think the NXT is a great value, I believe they are built well and are solid performer.

@AbleistSL Год назад

In regards to product design, I would honeslty consider replacing the weakpoint with metal parts.

@valhallasashes4354 Год назад

7:50 - forward: Speaking from experience with these sticks. You need to be careful "which" screws you use to fasten the grip to the base. Contrary to intuitive assumption, the screws for fastening the grip to the base, do NOT come in the grip's box. Yes, there are three screws that come in that box and yes, they "look" like the right size, but they're NOT. You MUST use the screws that come with the BASE. They are only a little bigger, but bite much deeper into the plastic well to give a much firmer and tighter fasten. So much so that you actually need to use a little force to secure it all the way down. Not too much, but plenty for what you should normally expect. So make sure you're using the correct screws from the base and NOT the screws that come with the grip. The problem with the screws that come with the grip is that they are not labelled and I'm still not entirely sure what they're for, but my best guess is, I think they are spares for the grip's housing. The screws for fastening the grip to the base will be in the Base's box and those will be clearly labelled. I'm a little embarrassed to admit that it took me way too long to figure that out after frustratingly trying to secure the grip to the base with the screws that came with the grip and thinking "these are so loose, how do they expect these to hold firm?". Using the correct screws, I've not had any issues with using this stick and base. And yes, they hold just fine even if picked up by the grip, even if I wouldn't necessarily recommend it out of common sense. Hope this helps.

@JosephKano Год назад

Ah that might explain the trouble others had. I used the base screws as well and yup no issues.

@Jandl009 Год назад

My right stick pulled out of the base when I got a bit too excited dogfighting over Jumptown the other weekend. The wire wasn't damaged, but I'm definitely going to have to take it apart and check those screws.

@teahousereloaded Год назад

Oufff - i've got to check that immediately on my stick.

@AgnosiaAgnosis Год назад

@@Jandl009 Chinese.

@ikkuranus Год назад

I broke the included hex driver trying to use those bigger screws to secure the grip to the base. Thankfully, this was my second stick and the smaller ones still fit.

@JosephKano Год назад

I have HOSAS with these. Worth it. OK maybe there's better out there, but not for the money your spending. Plus they are available. They also have an Aussie website now. I've had them for 2 years of almost constant use, daily play multi hours, only thing I've had to do is replace the occasional spring, 3 so far in total across 2 sticks just plomped on the desk, and I have big hands. They give multiple spares of those in all weights. Both mine are premiums. I've never had the grip pull out of the base. Ever. Yes I'm the guy who is commenting in the comments. Sure I'd love some virpils but I also like being married, know what I mean..

@danielschmidt1990 Год назад

Happy too read a comment from someone using them on a daily basis! Got me more calm :) Do they give extra springs in the package or can you order some somewhere?

@JosephKano Год назад

@@danielschmidt1990 they come with spare 10s 20s and 30s 2 each I think. They are good at responding to queries and they include a couple of spare buttons and stuff. The numbers are the spring stiffness so you can play around for a light medium or heavy touch.

@valhallasashes4354 Год назад

One of the things I liked about these sticks is the grips are really good for Star Citizen even if plastic. But really, my main concern for the plastic construction is in the base, not the grip. And what I found on the VKB website when I was researching these, is that VKB actually sell conversion kits for to allow you to attach the Space Combat Grip onto their higher end Gunfighter bases. I didn't have the money to go full pelt into their ecosystem from the start, but I really liked the pro-consumer upgrade path and the interoperability they had in their designs. I have EVOs now and I really like them. Although I am still tuning them. But I like them enough that I'm seriously considering upgrading them to the gunfighter bases in the future.

@flockofwildcactus Год назад

This was my primary reason for getting the NXT originally, the Kosmosima grip is the same one you'd find elsewhere in their catalogue and even prior to the original release they confirmed it would be compatible in the future with said kit. VKB making things adjustable, compatible, upgradeable and so on is a very good reason to support them IMO. I'm not a hardcore player right now in terms of hours, nor am I particularly hard on my gear or super invested in a sim rig yet, so it fits the bill in terms of quality at the price and pure usability...I'd personally never advise even a beginner get anything less after using them for a few months with the inexpensive upgrade to the EVO bases in the interim. Once I'm able to and the time is right, I'll also very likely pick up the Gunfigher bases for the final upgrade.

@eltreum1 Год назад

@@flockofwildcactus I have had dual GF3 and Kosmosima Pro's for over a year now and I literally can't stand flying any other way now, especially with the Omni throttle adapter.

@flockofwildcactus Год назад

@@eltreum1 Exactly! When I get the new bases, I'd also get the OmniThrottle kit to try as well, I'm hearing good things 😊

@wyrwolff Год назад

I've had my NXTs since Oct of 21 and have been very happy with them. I had neither the bankroll to go Virpil, nor the space to have a dedicated rig to mount them right. I just have an office chair and desk, and have to use that desk for a multitude of tasks. I fly in SC multiple times per week, sometimes every day, and I've had zero issue with them. Just as accurate with no drift as when I bought them. SOMEday I'll get a full Virpil setup going, but for now the NXTs have been great.

@CVMA20 Год назад

After going through 2 z-axis failures on a dual TM T16000M setup in just six months I took the leap up to the NXT Gladiator Premiums and was blown away at the quality at this price point. They are SOOO much better and it's been over a year without a single issue. I don't play enough to justify the budget for serious high end sticks so the NXT's were a perfect middle ground and I'd never go back to a cheaper stick again. These sticks are a perfect compromise, IMO.

@alexparris7769 Год назад

Best thing about these sticks is that if you decide you really like the grip and want the nxts bigger brother you can buy the gunfighter III base plus nxt conversion kit and upgrade the gladiator to the gunfighter when you have the money. Freakin great products

@DF-fg1cz Год назад

I have to disagree with you about the sticks being only people that don't use it much. I have used mines for more than 12h gaming daily on more than 1 occasion and in almost 2 years nothing has broken and works wonderfully. I will keep my opinion that it's not worth it to buy virprils for what you get. Just because a product is plastic doesn't mean it is bad because this is actually premium plastic no cheap plastic like the T16ks. Those are pure garbage and i broke 4 of them in a month...

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

I understand your opinion. My point was… compared to others, these will wear you quicker. Oiled metal cams, vs greased ABS. It’s just physics DF. I am happy you commented and offered this feedback.

@DF-fg1cz Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Yes it is but that doesn't mean that the product is bad. Besides that you have to consider that not everyone is able to spend 1k on a virpril set and why would you spend 1k plus wait over a month when you can get get a product that in terms of price plus / quality is 10x better than virpril and where they out of the box offer you tons of spares and good support plus only wait 1 or 2 weeks max which virpril just doesn't do

@Robert-G Год назад

@@DF-fg1cz it isn’t bad, but is worse than others if you compare it against them. Objectively, not in value per money spend. And the point is, that he tries to give people a basis they can make an informed purchase decision on. If you play sc a lot, and can afford something with a cam profile and metal gimbal, you probably want to invest a bit more into it, at least for the right hand. The chance that stuff will break is also a lot higher, and the way the spring is attached to the NXT is a lot more fragile than either gunfighter or warbrd base. Does that mean that it WILL break for sure? No, ofc not. You might be careful with it, knowing that it’s not a metal piece. But not everyone buying an NXT is aware how many compromises VKB had to come up with to make such a great device at such a low price. This is something that seems to be ignored in almost all vids about the Gladiator, mostly probably because they are made by people who haven’t used metal gimbal sticks before.

@AgnosiaAgnosis Год назад

Premium plastic hahahahaha ABS? PC?

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

@@AgnosiaAgnosis ABS is one of the best polymers available for this sort of thing.

@AlniyatSco Год назад

I'm so glad you've reviewed these. I own these as a pair and I have never looked back perfect for surfing the verse! It's a cheap yet worthwhile level to enjoy Star Citizen.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Glad you like them! and thanks for the comment. They are perfectly good for the money.

@AlniyatSco Год назад

Couldn't have said it better, best value for the money!

@tvliquidGG Год назад

Fantastic review! Your last point is exactly what I did - I was coming from mouse and keyboard and wanted to test out dual sticks without spending a boatload of money AND by getting a decent product. My NXTs did just that. Agreed with everything in this video. THANK YOU!!

@DonRaynor Год назад

Finally someone talking about these sticks. I've been sitting on edge forever.

@zookajoetech Год назад

Was recommended this to me whilst watching a video from CrimsonGamer (an Elite RU-vidr), lost my X-56 HOTAS when I moved out of Florida (lost apartment to roommates, kicked out of friend's family house, fun times and ones I hope to leave behind in 2022!) and he spoke of the VKBs, so I figured I'd go to the one man I trust on joystick knowledge, and I was not disappointed! In the future I'd love to move to VIRPRILs, but going from a HOTAS to a HOSAS, I want to give the VKBs their run. I don't play Elite everyday (that home improvement sales associate life, yo) so wear 'n tear won't be an issue, however to see how they fair up with (careful!) LAN party transportation and of course some FA-Off Elite combat will be a true testament. Thank you for making this review video, I think I got my sights set!

@DaringDan Год назад

I have an NXT and adore it. I use it with a t16 throttle and it's great for the next 5 years of alpha for the PU.

@pvalpha Год назад

I've had the pre-evo version of these for a couple years now with the premium grips. I'm not a daily player, and I don't play rough. This replaced an X55 stick/throttle that was nearly dead after 6 years of mild use. I will step up to virpil alphas in a couple years when I can play more consistently - because the alphas look like the type of stick I'd like to have as far as SC is concerned. I am very much into the bindings and want to keep my fingers off the keyboard as much as possible. (I've been thinking about a custom keyboard design for a while too, I'm that kind of nerd) I lifted my left hand stick once. I think i used the screws that came with the stick and not the base. But it didn't lift completely "out" so I was able to reseat it with no damage to the wire. Point to point though? The sticks are *very* consistent and very accurate. Thumb sticks work well but I wish I could get better curves on them. Calibration is nice and doesn't drift once set. All in all, I was very, very pleased with the set and I see someone who takes care of these (ie putting a little grease on the plastic every once in a while after use) and keeping them clean and dust free getting, many, many years of use out of them as a primary control set... and once you move up to better sticks, being able to use these as a solid set of backup sticks or for having a second gaming station for friends to use when they come over for a visit.

@McHox Год назад

switched to this from a t16000m, very happy with that choice and a great step up in value. agree with everything said here

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

A solid upgrade patch for sure.

@tripperdan Год назад

I'm still sporting the T16000m and about to do the exact same thing as you just did. Did you find the placement of switches and change of keybinds to be much of a learning curve?

@McHox Год назад

@@tripperdan not at all, took a bit to figure out how i wanted to bind it exactly but thats a given. swapped out the default springs for the softer ones though. bit annoyed that you can't change the detend when centering the stick but whatever

@tripperdan Год назад

@@McHox awesome, thx McHox

@ArnetPhotography Год назад

I just got this on the recommendation that it was good for petite and or small hands seeing as I'm 5'2 glad your analysis seems to align with most of the recommendations I was getting. Great channel, subbed. This is simply entry level for me, as I do plan on upgrading later but I didn't want to break the bank and not like a hobby than slowly build my way into. That being said, looking forward to getting back into simming again since I haven't done any of it since the good ol days of Falcon 4.0 and Top Gun: Fire At Will. Great!

@verdigris3122 Год назад

Good review. I like that you discussed some of your opinions being based on your coming from higher end equipment. I've been using a pair of SCGs on the Gunfighter III base for some time now and have been very pleased. I look forward to your future reviews.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Thanks for the support

@Zero6421 Год назад

I was running Saitek's X45 HOTAS for mechwarrior back around 2004 or so. Used it for star citzen until about last year. The electricals got byorked due to age and power would flicker off and on and randomly give maxed throttle position inputs, a little hard to low fly or dog fight with that. I loved that HOTAS setup simply because of how long it lasted for me, and the memories with time. I have since moved up to twin NXT's. They've made low flying on planets and dog fighting much more enjoyable. If they last half as long as the old X45's I'll be pleased with the value they've provided. I've got a little cash put aside for some higher end gear for when I can justify it to myself by playing more frequently. For now I'm just pleased with how HOSAS feels.

@FalconsLedge Год назад

There is metal on the main axis', ball bearings. The original NXT was plastic on plastic for friction points.

@snaggletoof1927 Год назад

Exactly what I've been looking into, perfect timing. Thanks, Noob! Hope to pick up a set of these to start moving away from Mouse/Keyboard play.

@pplcallmenicky854 Год назад

I've been using a set of "GNX EVO Omni Throttle w/ SCG Left Premium" and a "Gladiator NXT EVO ‘Space Combat Edition’ w/ SCG Premium Right grip" for over a month now and... Well VKB needs to work on their product names, but, I am very satisfied with them. Other than to say, I ended up going for the 45" tilt "omni throttle" variant for my left hand, over the straight up and down version, for a more intuitive throttle feel for my simple brain to more easily grasp the complexity of space flight. And I would recommend the slight increase in cost, for the more intuitive set up. Beyond that, my thoughts align with what was said so no need be redundant, HOWEVER. I think a few aspects were glossed over in this review. One being the depth and complexity of the software. If you follow VKBs start up guides, it will go smoothly and simply. Yet, what I feel sets these aside from other sticks in the "sub $1,000 a set" category is the ability to customize every input in every way you could think of. It is NOT user friendly however, most of the modifiers do not have explanations of what they do, so you'll have to do some reading to know not only what you're looking at, but, how to take advantage of it, but all of this is to say, the functionality runs deep. And another point missed that I see value in, is the additional modules VKB makes, that can be integrated directly into the base of these sticks by removing the side panels and plugging them into the sticks board, to make one larger device with still only needing to run one cable. Although I haven't tried these modules, if these sticks hold up over the coming months, I look forward to getting even more capability out of these sticks, when I upgrade the bases with additional modules, and will be able to bind all necessary control binds, and will be able to forget the original key board based ones for good. A set of Gladiators goes for about the same price as a single complete Virpil. Although you can't expect full metal construction, for half the price I feel as though you get well over 90% of the features. Once again, very satisfied with my purchase, and, have no problem recommending them.

@ArmoredGenie Год назад

Hooray! The Great Noob has come down to the peasants to sample our wares 😁. The hero we don't deserve. Jokes aside, solid review as always! I went with what I feel is a great compromise - Virpil right stick and NXT Omni left.

@celras5941 Год назад

Thank you for this review @TheNOOBIFIER1337 I'm looking forward to your VKB Gunfighter Mk. III review and the comparison. Like many others I'm using two T16000m right now and want to upgrade later this year. The three joysticks I have in mind are the NXT Evo SCG, the Gladiator Mk. III and the Virpil Constellation Alpha. I would highly appreciate, if you could compare the pros and cons of these joysticks in the future, because I think many people also have these joysticks in mind, when upgrading or buying new joysticks. Thank you very much and have a great day.

@Banzaj33 Год назад

I recently got the t16km dual pack as my first step into dual sticks, or any sticks for that matter, for star citizen. Always had virpil or vkb as an endgoal setup when/if I got used to sticks vs kb&m. First 2-3 evenings of flying was just trying to wrap my head round what axis does what, after roughly a month I am feeling more at home with sticks and I am noticing some issues with the t16km's, specifically the VERY pronounced and harsh center bump. You might as well use keyboard to fine adjust your heading or aim.. I have tried the cable tie mod to the springs on the sticks, amd while it significantly reduces the bump, it only results in drifting and I cannot calibrate it away. How does these vkb's compare to the t16km's in relation to force required to move them and the center bump? Now that I feel more confident in dual sticks, I am annoyed over the lack of control and precision with the t16km's.

@General.Falcon Год назад

Such nice sticks. I bought the GLADIATOR NXT EVO ‘SPACE COMBAT EDITION’ left and right versions. I must say, omg what a great sticks and they operate smooth and it all feels as a pro. Not like the cheep Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Hotas, but they are good to start with. I'm planning to get me the VKB rudders as well and maybe some more in the future also ;-)

@craigdavies4682 Год назад

I love my NXT; wish I had more time to fly. It's around 18 months old now. Never had a problem with it. This stick is as robust and accurate as the day I purchased it. As a flight simmer rather than space simmer the clutch actually helps ease loads on the wrist making it very comfortable over long periods.

@AttiraKell Год назад

Glad you are giving VKB some love. I use the NXT, and really enjoy them.

@ocean911 Год назад

I have been looking at VKB for bout a year now. Thanks for the video and I appreciate ur insider's/experience in this equipment. I always wanted some unbiased opinion of VKB.👍

@WolvesTeethSyndicate Год назад

I rock Dual VKB NXT Pre's, love them. Bang for buck, they feel on point. To me they feel premium af, so I can't imagine what Virpils feel like... 😅

@tvliquidGG Год назад

much different!! I don't have Virpils (i have these NXTs and they're great!), but I did try them and the feel is... very premium. hahah!

@caseytwill Год назад

I've tried Virpils and yes, they feel nicer, but NOT EVEN CLOSE to 2x-3x nicer. I have no desire to upgrade from my dual NXTs at all

@RocketToTheMoose Год назад

I've had my NXT since the first batch (non EVO) came out almost 2 years ago. It's seen a lot of hard use with Star Wars Squadrons, and almost daily use with DCS. I never had any issues with the stick pulling out of the base. I suggest anyone who buys one to watch the quick setup video on VKB's YT channel, as it shows very clearly which screws to use.

@JohnDoe-zl1fh Год назад

I'd bought the standard edition Gladiator NXT when it first came out and have about 300-400 hours in, maybe more. It still centers exactly, and I mean exactly(!!) to the point and so far I've never had to put in even a small artificial deadzone. It even survived my own stupidity on one occasion, when I was rather "forcibly" dismantling the grip due to what turned out had just been a software issue which now has been resolved, thanks to the support guy who sent me a beta driver. That and apart from the slighty bent base plate, which isn't an issue using a mount or a small screw clamp (though they surely would have sent a free replacement, had I asked for it) I've never had any issues. Coming from joysticks of wider known brands and even similar or higher price range, it's precision, feel and sturdieness, not to mention the exchangeable buttons and hats etc., should one break someday, truly is a game changer and my next stick will very likely also be a VKB one!

@J-Bae Год назад

Thanks for this video. I know this is 5months old now, but there isn't a ton of recent content on these and this helped greatly on my decision to "pull the trigger" on a pair of these. I can't afford the higher end stuff without saving for a very long time, but was able to get two of these after a month and a half. Hopefully they can hold up to my strong casual star citizen gameplay.

@madhatterand Год назад

Long standing SC player ( 2.4) been playing with KB/M the whole time... watched an older video you did with the logi 3d pros... ( before nxts and such) I wanted to see if I really felt it was that much different.. so i bought 2 sticks and wow the difference even with crap-tastic 35 dollar sticks. after 1 night of flight with these sticks I then looked up more of your review videos.. falling onto the Virpil Alpha Primes... needless to say I bought a R & L set with WarBRD bases.. and its really down to your review. I was already interested but your review put the nail in the coffin for me that the extra price would be worth it. And i was not wrong. Its amazing and a whole new game... in the end what im basically saying is THANK YOU for your extensive reviews , as im sure im not alone in you being the decider on a purchase of great monetary value :)

@AdamD19D 8 месяцев назад

I've had mine for around 2 years and it still functions like it's brand new. I've got over 2,000 hours in DCS with it. I've used it in Star citizen but mainly have stuck to mouse and keyboard since at the moment I've only had a hotas setup paired with a virpil mongoose cm3. HOTAS is less than ideal for 6 degrees of movement. I've upgraded to a gunfighter mk4 ultimate and need to buy a left handed grip for the NXT. I can see me breaking it eventually in Star citizen as you have to use quick change of directions for front, back, and side to side thrust inputs. A real flight Sim like dcs doesn't really require quick, constant, and abrupt changes of direction so I'm curious to how long it will hold up. My NXT premium has most certainly served me flawlessly. It's very precise for a cheap stick with very direct and tactile hat switches and a pretty great analog axis

@LegionofStorm Год назад

I got two Gladiator NXTs for when Alpha 3.14 came out and I've absolutely loved them. They work absolutely seamlessly with Star Citizen, just takes a bit of setting up keybinds between them but once you get your binds into a comfortable place, these things rock. Can't recommend this line of flight sticks enough

@drymeen 3 месяца назад

I've been using a pair of those since december 2022. Never had an issue with pretty intensive usage. They offer a lot of binds, are very comfy to use on the long run and are a nobrainer at this price point, beating the T16k by a mile. I'm moving up the foodchain this month for a pair of Virpils WrBrd + Constellation Alpha because I want more precision and more options, the plastic base of the EVO gives a rugged and "sticky" feel and I want a less pronounced center bump. It doesn't lessen the fact that the VKBs are an incredibly good value option for midrange simmers that don't want to spend 1k on their joystic setup. Enjoy.

@zenez8 Год назад

Another great feature for these is the grips can be removed and put on the Gladiators if you choose to upgrade, allowing you to just buy the base.

@blobfish7159 Год назад

I've been eyeing these for a while but going from the North American website to the Australian website there is a nearly $100 mark up on top of the conversion rate. $165 USD = $246 AUD The price listed on the VKB Australian website is $325 AUD + shipping on top of it. If its Australian stock I understand that there are import fees but I'm not sure if it even is, or if it's a bit of a money grab with the price jump.

@rhetor4mentor13 Год назад

I'm very happy with my NXTs, which I bought a year ago after building my first pc. But I know myself and I know I am starting to trick myself into going highend sooner than later. This video helped me cement that desire :)

@eltreum1 Год назад

I know pilots that liked the NXTs and they have companion control panels you can bolt together to make a whole custom control bar. The software is about as powerful as VIrpil's and some support color coded layers so you could have hundreds of controls. Like the higher end stuff, you are expected to open them and mess with things and they sell parts and upgrade kits for some things with good guides on their YT channel. I bought the Gunfighter 3's with the Kosmosima Pro grips and love them, and the Omni grip made them even better. The Pro comes with parts to let you mod the grip buttons and hats and all the cams/springs available are included. IMO if you can't get Virpil for some where you live due to import issues or cost the VKB lines are a great meeting in the middle for a step up from basic gear and touches into the important features of the high-end stuff like metal parts and mag sensors with serviceable assemblies on the top lines.

@HitomiOokami Год назад

Thank you for giving these a look. I've been following VKBs development of theri NXT ecosystem. looking forward to what their full throttle may look like someday. All that said, you mention that these besides being a great kit if it is what your price point can manage, that they are solid "interim" kit. Besides the Virpil sticks or their new Metal kit, what other options come to mind? I only ever really see VKB or Virp being talked about so I'm curious if there are others that might be higher "quality" ie metal, but not as much a hit to the bank. I'm Canadian in BC, like yourself if I remember right, so currency exchange and import/duty can be ouch.. especially if UPS gets their mits on an order. I'm disabled with ptsd an few other things so for me it really becomes the cost/performance balance given my income and limited or at least how lengthy a time it can be to put the $ aside for something at times before being able to go a head with a purchace. Ideally I'd quite love a set up like your own at least configuration wise, my current ancient Ikea desk just doesn't have the room for me to have two sticks, keyboard, mouse and my G13 on it all at once lol. Hope you and yours are well. sorry this got bit lengthy again XD

@lostnwalmart9110 Год назад

Great to see you reviewing some vkb gear. For the gunfighters I hope you take a look at the MCGU since it’s one of the best grips currently on the market.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

That is sitting on my bench for review

@ELuciferC Год назад

Good looking out and nice review! I honestly slept on them and these in favor of my tried and true T16000's! Might look at them as an upgrade and then step into a better set!

@Kezmatic1 5 месяцев назад

I have had these for a year and they are a dream to use. so much now, that I hesitate to switch. just great sticks all around.

@LokiDWolf Год назад

this seems perfect though for EVERYTHING in MSF 2020. Thank you for the review AND the UPDATE comment. Cheers!

Год назад

I'm not yet sold on the HOSAS setup, but I'm a current user of a HOTAM setup, with a CH pro Throttle on my left hand (modded to have a center stop) and a mouse on my right. I've been considering the NXT Omni for a while now, for which the center stop won't be a problem, but a feature. They seem to be in the right spot for my needs.

@seventhsealhere Год назад

I thought the review hit many valuable points, was rich in worthy opinion that linked to applicable items considered at this price range and was a fair assessment. Great job! 👍

@Dirigius Год назад

Went from T16000M (with TWCS) to one Gunfighter 3 Ultimate...zero regret. It has amazing fidelity of control and comes with all the cam pieces and springs to tune it. Waiting for VKB to release TECS, as the thumb joystick is precisely what I need for strafing. I thought about getting the NXT with Omni/Gunfighter...so tempting...but I prefer the traditional sliding throttle, which means I'll have to wait a while. I've modified the TWCS to be as good as it can get and that will have to do.

@WanderfalkeAT Год назад

No problems if you have Big Hands and remove the Palm Rest Rubber completely! I have used the Warthog - Will never go back to it (except still using the Trottle). This one feels more precise, much more! And it includes a very exact and easy to use Twist. If it breaks some day (using it extensively for a year) I will buy the same again or repair it myself. The best table stick I ever had.

@lilbippy7691 Год назад

@noob I don't actually think there is a hard detent (or detent at all, soft if anything), I think what you're experiencing is a mismatch in the dampeners, because the Y axis actually had TWO dampeners with 2 SEPERATE adjustment screws, one on the top half and one on the bottom half, causes a shift in resistance as you pass through it if you only adjust one, this can make it feel like it has a harder detent than is actually there. I have a hard time telling center without a spring on my left Evo omni throttle, because my resistence on both are very similar to each other. I honestly didn't think there is any detent and just the springs returned the stick to neutral... I could be wrong though, I'm sure you have much more experience with this sort of thing... There is, however only 1 dampener on the x axis, so only 1 screw and 1 resistance level to adjust and no change in resistance moving left to right as there is front to back. Anyway, great videos! Love to see vkb get the love the deserve and you have to push them for more info on their dedicated throttle we are all salivating for!

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

The way there are two cams, one on each side connected to the springs, it will always have a transition bump. It is a way to make cheaper, simple return. I appreciate your taking the time to comment.

@Wagnbat Год назад

Loved the video. You hit the nail on the head and I’m glad you gave them an honest try. I am quite enamored with them as a Segway to something bigger and better later. I am sure both NXT and Virpil will have newer better stuff by the time when SC when goes live. The NXTs are my alpha sticks. Their longevity will likely be a big factor in how long the remain the key part of my kit.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

I really feel they are great and certainly as I said in the video, destroy the low end of the market.

@luciddaze248 Год назад

Mine are in the mail! Upgrading from 3D Pro. These are the best my budget permits rn. I'm not going to miss key controlled throttle!!

@tvliquidGG Год назад

you won't be disappointed!

@mem0ryfoam Год назад

Awesome review, I agree more or less with everything you brought forward. I myself decided to go with these sticks (my left is the omni throttle version though) for the simple reason that, I had been away from SC/Elite and really any flight sim for quite a number of years, probably since 2016-2017, and I wasn't 100% sure if I'd stick to it long term. Value for the money with the evo's is great. They're far an above the general entry point with the thrustmaster t16000's for example, they feel decent, and get the job done. Another thing I appreciate with the evo's is the modularity. I can very quickly and easily change out the analog stick for example to a hat if I want, or if down the road I want to upgrade but without having to purchase an entirely new set, I can simply get the gunfighter gimbals and transfer the grips. I agree they're nowhere near as smooth as an all metal gimbal with a cam to your liking like par with the virpils, but for what they are, they preform perfectly fine, and I'll use these any day over my old 16000's or even my old warthog Hotas. I also quite appreciate their software and what it can allow you to do with the sticks and how customizable they can be. Like making the analog stick function as a mouse so I can click on switches in the cockpit on the fly if I want to do so without taking my hands off the sticks to hold F. As always great video, great insight, and most importantly no bullshit to be found haha Cheers!

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Thanks very much. How do you like using Omni?

@mem0ryfoam Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 I have to say I love it. All the benefits of a stick, but in the feel of a throttle. Typically most throttle have all their buttons/switches on the base, in this case they're all available (minus the very few obviously on the base with the VKB's) on the grip still. You get access to all the axis just like a normal straight stick, but in a very comfortable neutral position for the wrist. I would say the main thing that will throw some folks off, it did me for a couple hours, is the twist action if you use it. Instead of the typical twist left/right feel, it's a twist up/down now as the grip is angled side way. Another thing I like, and this may lead me to getting an omni right, is how the leverage works on the base. The grip sitting technically lower, I noticed when not mounted, I had a lot less occurrences of accidentally tipping the base to the side when making any stronger aggressive movements on the grip to the left/right. The biggest aspect for me though is, as mentioned, how neutral it keeps your wrists, it is extremely comfortable like that for me personally. To add to this, as you mentioned in this review, you can also lock the axis with the plate and use the clutch tension to basically make yourself a true throttle but with the benefits of the buttons primarily being grip located, for those that prefer that sensation.

@halcyondraconis7437 Год назад

Coming from a pair of T16k's and with a small budget I'm thinking of getting the NXT Evo's and adding in the GNX WW2 Throttle because I don't like using the little encoders for throttle/speedlimiter. The fact that it connects to the sticks means I don't have to upgrade my MNSTRtech chair mounts aside from getting a pair of new plates.

@smky143 Год назад

I love my nxt didn't realize it had that top right front button until your video lol.

@Finraen Год назад

Thanks! Still hoping you can review the Gunfighter with MCG Ultimate as most reviews of the MCG are of the plastic pro version. With the Constellation Alpha Prime out the MCG Ultimate (with Z axis module) seems like it would be the main competitor and curious how it compares on Gunfighter base to Virpil. No left handed version of the MCG is a downer but the Kosmosima grips as a left-hand option at least have a good button layout.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

I have that grips as well. It will be reviewed after the SCG

@poutinebbq296 Год назад

very nice review. i have dual nxt premiums and simply love them. i moved up from from twin t16ks. i am usually very smooth on gear so up to now all is good. with Canadian conversion, import charges they were the best choice for me. leaves me until game release to get better ones :)

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Thanks for sharing. Im sure these will last and obviously be superior to keyboard and mouse.

@arnoldnym2466 Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 After speaking to some of the top PvP pilots out there (most of them using VKB NXT'S btw) I came to the conclusion that dual stick is indeed the way to go but it doesn't have to be Virpil. Though there is talk about the "meta" being stick for movement and mouse for aim. Never tried it myself but I can see why it's said and might give that a try since my aim with sticks is horrible, then again I don't have NXT's, yet.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

@@arnoldnym2466 HOSAM

@THarSul Год назад

One other point about the materials of the stick, and they don't advertise this enough on any of their pages, so you aren't to blame for missing it, but all of the mobile components in the base aren't just made of durable ABS, but fiberglass reinforced ABS, making it considerably stronger than normal plastic, allowing the sticks to bear more force than their less expensive counterparts, although metal would still be stronger.

@baronvonschnellenstein2811 Год назад

Thanks for this comprehensive review. In most cases, has confirmed my hypotheses based on looking at specs, etc. Pleasantly surprised to hear about the perceived quality of the hat-switches. Rather looking forward to seeing your analysis of the Gunfighters and perhaps a comparison there versus Virpil Alpha Primes w/ CM3 bases :)

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Thanks, the review will be first and then the comparison will be part of joystick fight

@pikkon38 Год назад

I use the NXT with 3 modules, and I have also used virpil. I honestly prefer the VKB. As does my buddy who uses one of each constantly in dual stick. These sticks are great

@AgnosiaAgnosis Год назад

What virpil? Why u like these better?

@pikkon38 Год назад

@@AgnosiaAgnosis Alpha. The Alpha just felt loose and sloppy to me, even when adjusting it. Also, weirdly enough, the actual alpha sticks felt kind of cheap to me, while the plastics used in the NXT feel really solid and the action on the stick feels really tight which i like, and its also physically smaller which makes it, in my opinion, much easier to get to all of the buttons. Plus you can do some really cool stuff like connect all of the modules to it to make some really unique flight panels. I used to mount these to my chair with monster tech chair mounts, but that was just super inconvenient unless you only use that chair and PC for SC and flight games. I use my PC 90% of the time for something else so they just got in the way. So now my set up is two sticks, and 3 panels all mounted together and i put a USB hub on the back of the vertical flight panel i mounted and when I want to play SC, I just slap it on my table and plug in 1 cable and im good to go. and I have all the buttons and throttle sticks i can ask for. All for less than the price of 1 alpha grip and base.

@AgnosiaAgnosis Год назад

@@pikkon38 wow sweet sounding setup. I refuse to give China more than a couple bucks. I have the alpha prime otw . What base did you use the warthog?

@pikkon38 Год назад

@@AgnosiaAgnosis Base for what? The NXT comes with its own base. The alpha base I used was the warBRD I think.

@AgnosiaAgnosis Год назад

@@pikkon38 that's what I meant warbird

@Aereto Год назад

I still got the T16000m because it is the most affordable to get when the throttle and pedals are bundled together, and I want to get basic muscle memory set in. It can also be used as a backup if the primary stick fails, or used as a second stick.

@spookyno1401 Год назад

can you turn the ministick push function into just a button and not a cycle between hat and ministick?

@DrummClem Год назад

I bought them to replace my T16000 HOTAS. Best decision ever. It's not cheap but you can feel the quality, even if it's plastic.

@arcanum3000 Год назад

I bought a T16000M HOTAS kit a number of years ago, and man, it's just bad. The throttle suffered stiction when trying to make small adjustments, too many of the controls are on the throttle rather than the stick, the stick started producing spurious rotation signals after minimal use, and the stick is just too large (and it's not like I have small hands). Until it broke, I had better experiences with an old Saitek AV8R stick. I've been getting into X4 lately, so last week I ordered a single NXT Evo SCG, as it seems to be better in every possible way. Looking forward to it turning up. If I like it, I may add an omni-throttle in the future.

@diminios Год назад

Just sucks that my right stick has a factory issue (that I can repair myself, but I can't be bothered yet). Something to do with the magnetic sensor on the Y axis not being properly secured. Edit: I'm talking about the previous generation, GNXT. Not Evo.

@afuturesoldier Год назад

Just ordered one of these to use as a combo with a throttle. I chose these cuz they were supposedly a step up from the x52 I am using. I was looking into virpil until I learned you hd to buy the stick and a base separate.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

I want to test Omni Next

@patrickflying17 Год назад

Cost wise. a single Virpile stick will cost the same as two of the NXT evos if you want a stick from virpil with the same feature set or exceed it. They're just not worth it unless you really have cash to burn.

@alvarogeorgemenendez1601 Год назад

same same.. just started using mine.. ( x52 is going to be a hand me down )

@1SaG Год назад

Since my Evo had two sets of grip screws (one longer, one shorter) and VKB advised to use the shorter ones, this is what I did. Never had the grip feel like it would separate and it's been on there very solidly since I got this stick back in March. And that's with an hour or two minimum of daily use. All in all, this thing feels rather solid to me (KG-12/WW2 grip) and, from an end-user perspective, I'd put it up there with my MS SW FF2 when it comes to build quality and materials used. And my FF2 is still in perfect condition after well over a decade of regular use. The only things I miss about the FF2 is its ability to disable spring force on the fly by removing my finger from the FF sensor on the grip and its ability to be used on the desktop without any sort of velcro or other aid. Its large footprint and high weight made that possible. The Evo's base is neither heavy nor large enough to stay stable under all conditions on the desktop - I had to "nail it down" to my desk with velcro before I bought a mount for it.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Thanks, I believe my issue was I tested the base for about 15 minutes when I first started, found them to be good, and then switched to monstertech. I didn’t really push the sticks to the limit when they were mounted to the included base, so it is great there are those 4 holes.

@1SaG Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Yup... it sure is. On a side note re mounts: I went Gunfighter last week but had the Evo mounted on a VKB short mount. Which I kinda, sorta would rather recommend for central mounting the Evo because VKB's GL adapter-plate allows you to rotate the stick (in its entirety) left and right. Rotating it left as far as it would go made flying central stick a lot more comfortable IMO. Waited several weeks for VKB EU to restock the GL mount because I wanted that feature and I don't think you can rotate the stick on a Monstertech - though I could be wrong there. :)

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

@@1SaG the holes are oval, so yes you can rotate about 35deg.

@1SaG Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Oops... guess I could've gone Monstertech after all... lol. Thanks for the info!

@lilbippy7691 Год назад

Also, it would be nice to mention that with an omni throttle configuration, this set can play any flight Sims (space or atmospheric) very competently, with an unsprung Y axis and Omni Throttle on my left I play DCS, Ace combat, everspace 2, star scamizen, project wingman, Mechwarrior, IL-2 series, really any HOTAS game. It's a wonderful cheap solution to cover all your hotas needs, imo. But I did get a Stream Deck for a button box in DCS, other than that I've had 0 issues mapping everything I need to the sticks where I want. Without ever having to touch a keyboard except to text chat. Just wish they had an encoder and a break lever on the sticks (not base) like the alphas, can't get everything for a bargain, I suppose. 😂

@lostnwalmart9110 Год назад

You could bump you main hand to a gunfighter and Modern combat grip and sell your gladiator to recuperate some cost. But I’d love to see the gladiators with an option for the modern combat grip from the get go.

@lilbippy7691 Год назад

@@lostnwalmart9110 I'd REALLY love a modern combat grip b/c i mostly fly MiG/Su in DCS. I'm honestly, kind of debating the winwing f16 low tier throttle, but want to wait for VKBs to drop, I can deal with SteamDeck+Gladiator for now, but yeah GF/MCG is def on my radar

@lilbippy7691 Год назад

@@lostnwalmart9110 also, having trouble selling an NXT I already have after upgrading my Left to an EVO Omni, but can't get any buyers. It was lightly used for like 2 months, lol

@lostnwalmart9110 Год назад

@@lilbippy7691 Damn sorry to hear that figured people would be all over some good value gear, especially if they don't have to pay vkb shipping costs haha.

@lilbippy7691 Год назад

@@lostnwalmart9110 yeah, I guess I just don't know where to sell them, they're up on a few hots discords and local Craigslist, etc

@skyracerxp Год назад

Great video! I’m anxiously awaiting your review of the VKB Gunfighter sticks. I have a complete VKB SCE GF Premium HOSAS w/ rudders setup, mounts, and all. I really love them, having come from the t16k’s. I know Virpil are the best, but I’d like to get your opinion on which VKB GF springs are closest to the Virpil feel. Honestly, I’m still running my VKB’s stock, as I have been hesitant to mess with the springs.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

VKBs upper end stuff seems to be some of the best. I am still testing but specifically the gimbal is very well built and the MCGu can be used as a weapon, what a piece, right?

@skyracerxp Год назад

Yeah, the MCG Ultimate Grip, looks to be a beast. Pretty much all metal build, which is a feel a lot of people go for because it denotes quality, which isn't necessarily true. I don't think it comes left-handed?? At any rate, since Star Citizen is my go to game, and the fact that I'm left-handed, I believe the Space Combat Editions work best for me w/ the HOSAS setup.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

@@skyracerxp it is right only. I have suggested that if they made left, many would have used a pair for space.

@skyracerxp Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Agreed. I would have likely got a set, but being left-hand, it was a no-go!

@far3s Год назад

Thanks so much for this in-depth show of the nxts.

@declinox Год назад

Looks like a pretty decent stick for the money. Virpils look to be much more solidly built, albeit for more money (I have two Deltas at present). As I've mentioned before though, I want the stick itself to act as a joystick (i.e. spring-centered), but I _really_ want some sort of throttle control* _on_ the stick. Having it on the base is mostly useless, because you need to take your hand off the stick to use it. Having it on the stick means that you can instantly set it to whatever value you want, without your needing to hold it there. Star Citizen speed limiters and mining lasers (not to mention accel limiter) benefit greatly from this. I have a theory that joystick manufacturers refuse to add this to their sticks, because they feel it would detract from their throttle sales. But if one did, they would immediately win my loyalty. If a manufacturer made a modular system that would allow me to attach whatever controls I wanted in a fixed set of places on the stick, even better. *Slider, rotary control, or single-axis non-centering thumbstick, whatever...but it should be operable with one thumb, should operate as an axis/analog control, and should stay where you set it.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

The mini wheel on Alpha and Delta somewhat do this function for many. I appreciate your comment and insight.

@davids9075 Год назад

I bought dual NXT EVO Premiums and loved them. Stepped up my game and bought right SCG Gunfighter and noticed how much more smoother the metal cams were!!!

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

The metal is fantastic

@KjetilBalstad Год назад

Where did you get the rig where you mounted the joystics and keyboard etc? And, next question, are there any cheeper variants of these as well? :p

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Monstertech

@AtlasFox Год назад

What's the difference with the Evo version? What did they improve?

@davidkline1441 Год назад

I've had mine for 3 years and I love them no issues and play every day

@bigd4366 Год назад

I couldn't justify a thousand in sticks for a $45 MR. I picked up a pair of Premium NXTs last year and I reckon they're still probably the best value around if you don't have Virpil money. I highly recommend finding a button template for each stick and printing them out to place under your monitor so you can keep your binds straight as you're learning. Also, HCS is relatively cheap for a solution that can offload a lot of the commands so that you can keep your hands on the sticks. I still use it for power management (when my hands are generally rather busy) and for non-combat functions that are less-often used.

@BCSchmerker Год назад

+BrianMP5T *The Virtual Engineering Bureau MPO has a closer approach than VirPil Controls to the HOSAS at the WSO station in the Boeing F-18 Delta/Foxtrot.* The dual Space Combat Grips are also available in the Gunfighter MkIII Series.

@kevinlytle6215 Год назад

Nice gear for the price. I like that these are sort of in between. Cant justify the cost of the better units yet.

@themadpaddler9043 Год назад

I'm looking at going with a HOSAM set up (Left stick and right mouse) and going to get the NXT Omni Throttle for the left stick. I'll let y'all know how it goes once I get it. :)

@gabzsy4924 Год назад

Well there is something you need to consider, everyone else that dosn't live in the US or EU. For you guys these might be a more premium entry level, but for us, that's our consumer dream and top of the line achievement. Just so you have an idea, a set of these will cost as much as 1 month of rent and I live in an expensive area. Kind of sad actually hearing someone calling something that I aspire to purchase with great effort as entry, but hey, it's the truth not mad about it, just sad.

@schoolboymafia Год назад

I make good money, and am quite happy to spend it on pointless crap when I feel like it, but even I can't justify £1000+ on joysticks and mounts. I've got it, the money is there, but fuck that it's simply too much for what I need.

@BerkerIzmir35TR Год назад

Can we play for Xbox Series x? Thanks.

@rodwanolds1871 Год назад

Hey Noob, would you recommend these as a aux set or maybe left hand only for anyone with a Virple?

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Are you asking as a way to keep costs low? As in someone wants a right Virpil, but may not want to pay for two? Either way, I quite like the NXT as a value proposition.

@rodwanolds1871 Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 No, as someone who has Virple but is testing the water with a left stick.

@Nickchanning444 Год назад

one thing to consider its not really 300 shipping to north America is around 60 dollars add tax depending on your state makes these more a 400 dollar package but they do have alot of compatibility with games ranging from star citizen, arma 3, dcs, elite dangerous and more. which cant be said for all the units more expensive or in the same price bracket.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Order them from VKB USA instead.

@Kman31ca 9 месяцев назад

You can actually use epoxy on those screws without making it permanent. Put some epoxy in each hole before you put the screws in and then put grease or even show polish on the screws and make sure you cover it all. Then screw it in and once cured just loosen the screws half a turn, then re tighten. I've used this same method one screws and epoxy quite a bit for other hobbies I'm in and it has always worked.

@NOOBIFIER1337 9 месяцев назад

There is also that the sticks themselves are so inexpensive that simply gluing them has minimal risk. If you break it or it fails, just replace

@AbleistSL Год назад

After wasting money on two t.16000m's only to find out they have a massive center bumps, The tflight hotas one/4 controller with the rudder pedals is the best for starting in my opinion as they are great for console and have a smaller bump, though I personally recommend finding a stronger custom spring for the rudder pedals and also suggest buying third party parts for the throttle if you hate it's INTENTIONAL center bump.

@Unclefacts Год назад

Would you buy these before a thrustmaster warthog for a couple bucks more?

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Yes, of course.

@Authmion Год назад

A long time coming! I love mine

@calistin1 Год назад

Bit late to the game but I bought a single T16000m years ago when they were priced much cheaper, amazon ca tells me I payed December 1, 2014 Total $57.48 and this is in CAD not USD and played elite dangerous for years with this stick daily for hours doing combat in my vulture and some space trucking etc its still works great, uses the same Mars sensors and was the defacto best entry stick to buy...the issue is because they were so popular the price of these skyrocketed over the years...so my point is if you can find some used t1600m for like 20$ or 40$ cad they are still very much worth it.

@Anachroschism Год назад

The sticks I wish I got, instead of my still unopened T16K sticks, as they seemed like a great alternative to the super-budget end. However, I do have very big hands, and I'm rarely able to try before I buy.

@DelroyDennie Год назад

Dang so that means I can't attach this to a z grip to make it more like a throttle? Cause that would be awesome.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

You can, I will be doing a review on that in the future. It IS an option

@lilbippy7691 Год назад

Their Z grip is called OMNI THROTTLE and yes you can use a left hand one with the x axis locked (or not) and no spring on the Y axis for throttle input that stays where you put it and still have twist for up/down 6dof

@det.bullock4461 Год назад

I own the old NXT without the dry clutches. I have played through the entirety of TIE Fighter's DOS CD rom edition on medium difficulty plus many bouts of X-wing vs Tie Fighter, Descent, Overload, Rebel Galaxy Outlaw, Freespace, X-wing Alliance, Project Wingman, Ace Combat 7, etc. and am currently going through Wing Commander and expansions with it. Some of these games are much harder on a stick than Star Citizen (the TIE Fighter/X-wing games in particular necessitate to yank the stick in opposite directions to evade enemy fighters and Wing Commander uses an afterburner slide that also requires to yank the stick very hard in one direction) so any worry about solidity is misplaced, the bump compared to old CH Products sticks is negligible and frankly I never minded it in the first place.

@_Graffic_ Год назад

Started with dual T16000's... Great sticks until the twist issue hits. Had 2x Gladiator NXT EVO's for a few months now... The difference is amazing. What's next ? We will see, but I'm hoping my EVO's will last 2-3 years. Great video as per NOOB o7

@suboptimal4539 Год назад

Would this be better than a x55? I’m looking to go dual sticks but I have (big hands). The x55 I have is before it was sold to Logitech but that doesn’t really matter. TIA

@theack777 Год назад

Just wanted to let you know that I upgraded from the x56 and in my personal opinion these are much better. They have much more precise and accurate movements. I am so happy I upgraded and replaced my X56!

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

@@theack777 Agreed

@nathanforrester5140 Год назад

I have had no problems with my NXTs. Much better Sticks that the 3d extreme pro. I could not afford the really high end sticks. I love that I can buy any part to fix my stick. What I understand is that I can upgrade to the Gun fighter base. Then latter get a gun fighter stick. I am not sure if it is worth upgrading like this so any thoughts you have on piece meal upgrading would be very helpful.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

I am happy things worked out like that

@Duranous. Год назад

How bad is this middle hump? I tried out the thrustmaster t16000m and it's middle hump was extremely bad for precision. I was very interesting in this stick but not if it has the same critical flaw for near center position accuracy.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

The middle hump IMO is too pronounced on NTX.

@mhoss3520 Год назад

Is it worth getting the Pro version for Star Citizen / space combat sims?

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Pro adds more buttons

@livingfast2280 Год назад

Facts on the comment about spend a ton of money and just flying on keyboard . My brother bought a carack and still no sticks. Just seem weird to spend that much on a ship and not have at least a hotas

@formula4creation Год назад

best review ive seen so far thank you

@NibNa5ty Год назад

I love mine. I have the basic grips. seriously good

@jeffpayton1695 Год назад

Can someone tell me what desk setup that is? I've been looking and can't find it anywhere.

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

My stand up wall punted desk ?

@jeffpayton1695 Год назад

@@NOOBIFIER1337 yes, exactly.

@THIS---GUY Год назад

Would you say this or warthog would be a better starter stick for dominant hand?

@NOOBIFIER1337 Год назад

Do you need a twist axis?

@THIS---GUY Год назад

@TheNOOBIFIER1337 it would be nice to have but I could also see myself getting rudder pedals. Mostly want to fly helicopters but also jets and spacecraft to a lesser degree Found winwing today too and very interested in their base bundle as well compared to Warthog and NXT Evo