Nymph Fly Fishing: How to Fish the Bounce Rig

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Josh Mena (aka Kilo) from our shop, shows how he sets up and fishes a simply bounce rig. Great for nymphing rivers. Setup: www.flyfishfood.com/pages/pro...
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@brandonneiwert7503 3 года назад

I've been using this for years! It hands down as been my most versatile and productive rig this far

@lonewizzard8456 2 года назад

Thanks for your positivity and techniques to properly casting this rig without crazy tangles. Stay heavy!

@Adroit1911 3 года назад

Thanks for the free lesson Josh!!!

@stevestringham1095 3 года назад

i like the size of that net. it shows some real confidence in your setup!

@hobocan22 3 года назад

I love the hate on this video haha people are so afraid to get out of their comfort zone ! great vid guys. every technique has its time and place! I wish people would realize that they are just adding another tool in the box .

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

🔥🔥🔥👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@markthee4134 3 года назад

Kilo knows what's up, nice video.

@edwardbaca9297 3 года назад

Dude, enjoyed the video. I fish a conventional nymph rig with the weight located above my flies. I see this as a great setup for me because most of the #20 and smaller flies that I tie and use don't have a lot of weight.

@mikeroll9868 2 года назад

Sweet video. NTFF I learned a lot. Thanks. Makes me want to come up there and fish so maybe I’ll be seeing you guys.

@wesleywillard 3 года назад

FANTASTIC video! 🤙🏼

@phoult37 3 года назад

I can see this being really effective for big water, which is a place where a tight-line set-up falters.

@noelslater822 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for providing this. Very informative and helpful!

@perfect1150 3 года назад

Thanks for the video..I've read about the Provo Bounce Rig and want to give it a try

@FlyVFin 3 года назад

hey glad you guy are doing these videos, I refer all my subscribers to you guys in Orem to pick up flies before they come out with me to the river. (if you've noticed a sudden recent interest in Olive Perdigons haha)

@DAVIDDAMIENR 3 года назад

THANK YOU for Sharing !!! I learned a lot !!!

@704EX 3 года назад

1. Great Job Josh

@toddh6102 3 года назад

Just a thought. You can pull 2-4ft of line in and let go at the top of your forward cast. It will shoot out. Makes managing your line easier. And with enough power on your forward cast, you can even tuck the weights and flies.

@bentpolski Год назад

I Love My Lamson KONIC! Still have it still fish it. They should have Never stopped making it! I love the Liquid too. I have one with 2 spools.

@krazygoofadventures8031 3 года назад

Didn't know it had a name. I've doing it for years after learning about drop shotting for bass.

@mddmdd4766 3 года назад

For the water Josh is in - this method makes sense but for other situations where you are faced with diverging and merging currents - Euro works better in my opinion.

@Adroit1911 3 года назад

You can still euro a bounce rig, just use sighter line instead of an indicator.... That's how I fish my bounce.

@justinhorton2951 3 года назад

I was just listening to george daniels speak on combining both methods. instead of using what he called a "sacrificial " weight fly... a piece of shot at the point and 2 droppers above it.. The only reason for the "euro" method of say a jig hook dredging bottom is because competition cant use supplemental weight.

@bentpolski Год назад

Great Video! Those GREENS must be loaded with SCUDS!

@nic85marty 3 года назад

Highsticking a dropshot rig? Very similar at least. Solid video.

@MrLobstermash 2 года назад

Mono rig does this type of thing but without the need to mend. Tight to the indicator too

@ottosflyfishingchannel5859 3 года назад

What net is that? I'm looking for a steelhead/King net that I can wade with and I like the length and wide mouth of that one.

@samgreer115 3 года назад

Haters will hate. Josh is the man! Also think I need one of those hats

@cs1089 3 года назад

Thanks for another great video. Couple of questions. 1) how much split shot in weight was Josh using? 2) when I have used this technique in the past I tie a tag at the end for the shot with lighter tippet to minimize the chance of losing flies if I snag the weights. Any issues with doing this? Thanks again!

@Jones90090 3 года назад

“A couple BB size split shot.” I prefer tying my shot a lighter section of tippet as well.

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

I was using 3-4 bbs in the video. This is a great rig to help with not losing flies. I think it’s a great idea to tie a tag for the weight. Let me know how it goes. I just put the weights on the point and rarely loose flies. I’ve also noticed using a gang of smaller split shot instead of a couple big ones helps with not getting hung up as much and also helps getting them free when you do get hung up.

@cs1089 3 года назад

Joshua Mena thank you!

@williamklein6749 3 года назад

A few questions. 1. What split shot do you use? 2. How to modify for smaller streams? 3. Wouldn't you have better contact with shorter distance between Strike Indicator and flys. 4. Do you use weighted nymphs or not weighted? 5. Why is a tippet ring so necessary? 6. Top 5 flys?

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

Water gremlins are my favorite because they are removable. I would use smaller split shot and indicators for the smaller streams. I’m usually using unweighted flies just to save money lol. Tippets rings are there to help preserve the butt section of your leader. Hares ear, juju Beatis, Frenchie, bling midges, and squirmys

@williamklein6749 3 года назад

@@joshuamena153 Thanks.

@irideaduck939 3 года назад

@@joshuamena153 What weight fly line are you using with the 4wt rod?

@alexargyros7186 3 года назад

Thanks for the video, Josh. I know you're surrounded by some of the best Euro fly fishers in the world, nonetheless, I'd be interested in your opinion on the relative efficiency in catching trout of Euro vs. bounce nymphing. Imagine that two anglers of equal skill fished the same river for an entire season, one fishing Euro methods exclusively, the other bounce nothing exclusively. Who, do you think, would catch more and better fish?

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

Euro for sure!

@alexargyros7186 3 года назад

@@joshuamena153 Thanks.

@ronniemilsap7716 3 года назад

gonna set that hook

@Jaimelapoesie 3 года назад

mend it... mend it...

@davidross7215 3 года назад

It's called a drop shot system and it's been around for years. Just ask Kelly Galloup. Blood knots work better than triple surgeons as it puts the fly off the leader at a 90 degree angle.

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

I watched his basic nymphing and drop shot video. Imagine how many fish I would of caught if this video was almost two hours long like his 😂

@MarcTelesha 3 года назад

I think doing a triple surgeons or barrel knot and then I uniknot to the line above my "stopper knot" it's a 90 degree and actually I tie flies at home with a small 4 inches tippet with a open uni knot aka I tighten the uniknot but don't tighten the loop. I have a system setup at home and waste little stream tie with rigging.

@lucasburkemper4736 3 года назад

Hey guys, whenever I use this rig my line that is connected to the fly keeps getting wrapped and tangled around the main leader. Is this due to some poor weight distribution or does this happen because of bad casting? Thanks for the video!

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Watch it as it goes into the water. Most of the time it just naturally unravels.

@AboutTrout 3 года назад

9 people got their feelings hurt . Solid video boys .

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

AboutTrout that’s how you know you have some hot fire!!!

@FlyLibrary 3 года назад

Big ups to Josh for being able to riff for 15min. The tube is a valuable resource. Who cares about those guys. Keep adding weight.

@Zufrizufri650 Год назад

Good

@aaronschaffer7436 3 года назад

This can definitely catch fish but from personal experience it’s a lot easier to euro nymph because you have constant contact with your flies and you can feel the difference rom ticking bottom and a fish

@Bonneville_Brute 3 года назад

I love both methods. Bounce rigs allow me to catch fish during obnoxious winds

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

Agreed, once you learn to build and manage the long mono leaders, keep sighter off the water, tuck casts and oval cast, build a nymph box with a large variety of weight and sizes. And learn to fight fish on 6x tippet. Euro is pretty easy .Lol bounce rig is good way for the average fisherman to go catch a few Fish in just about any conditions

@RETROSFLYTYINGCHANNEL 3 года назад

Crack up dude.....nice fishing

@sputnick66 3 года назад

This used to be "the rig" for the Beaverhead but today most people will fish with an indicator or dry and a perdigon.

@TTT5000 2 года назад

This technique without an indicator is deadly. In many cases it will absolutely out fish the euro rig.

@Jaimelapoesie 3 года назад

What do I do when I start catching a ton of fish with this technique and guys on the river that don't ever catch shit start mean muggin'?

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Jaimelapoesie the answer is this.... throw gang signs. Throw. Gang. Signs.

@walkdawg216 3 года назад

What pack was he using?

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Umpqua Ledges 650: store.flyfishfood.com/Umpqua-ZS2-Ledges-650-Waist-Pack-p/35254.htm

@isupportthecurrentthing5225 3 года назад

Id have a reel with the same fly line and leader setup as this but just fish traditional wet flies. Thats more interesting.

@ZGADOW 3 года назад

Why is that more interesting ? You must not do much fishing

@johnelm7653 2 года назад

What’s a PMD

@edgraves8 3 года назад

Seems like you would be setting the hook all day long with the indicator bouncing the entire drift. I guess you just set, set, set?

@Waty8413 3 года назад

When a fish hits, the indicator will dart down and stay and you'll learn the difference. But yeah there's still a lot of false hits. If you are fishing over really chunky stream bottom or debris, this rig can be tough to use.

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

Yeah when it’s a fish eat its pretty obvious. It was really mossy out this day I was defiantly getting hung up a lot more than usual. But when in doubt set the hook!

@soundbwoikilla764 3 года назад

This is a great nymphing technique, especially when you have water flow and long unbroken seams. There is a balance to the bounce, you don't want to be dragging. If you're getting hung up, you adjust your indicator and/or the weight. You'll usually be able to tell a strike from a snag but as these guys ^ point out, when in doubt set the hook. There will be a few false hits.

@fishmagnet2593 3 года назад

Where can I buy that hat?

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

The brand is coal they have tons of sweet hats!

@fishmagnet2593 3 года назад

@@joshuamena153 thanks!

@caguas97 11 месяцев назад

You don't think it's called a "bounce rig" because the split shot and flies are bouncing along the bottom?

@andrewmorke 3 года назад

It's tough fishing a 4-wt in the wind. I like a 5 or 6 on that river.

@braydonwilhoit6616 3 года назад

I’ve been trying to learn this rig, I just can’t seem to get it dialed in correctly. Could you possibly do a video on how to set it up?

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

The setup diagram is at the end of the video. Shows which knots to use, leader types and lengths etc.

@larrythompson2896 3 года назад

@@FlyFishFood The diagram is covered by video links. Thanks

@larrythompson2896 3 года назад

Should have checked back before I posted. Fixed! Thanks

@soundbwoikilla764 3 года назад

The rig itself is pretty basic as shown in the diagram. In my experience getting it dialed in is finding the right balance of weight (including any weight if you are using weighted nymphs) and indicator depth for the river conditions. I find this method works best where you have longer, steady, swifter and deeper flows (like in the video). For me it doesn't make sense when the water levels are low and slow or if the runs are short or interrupted. And for some of the euro nymphers, it doesn't make sense at all O lol

@TTT5000 3 года назад

I only euro-nymph, and I tend to want to criticize people when they do anything different. I feel more comfortable in my box

@BigDoeJ424 3 года назад

Cool story bro

@seanearnest 3 года назад

A whole world of fly fishing awaits you outside of your 'box'.

@krazygoofadventures8031 3 года назад

And how were you elected judge? Same attitude is why the angling world thinks fly fishermen are snobs.

@italiantroutaholic8926 3 года назад

almost like drop shot rig but with a bobber!

@strategicactionservices2206 3 года назад

Is this not also called a dropshot rig?

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Depends where you live

@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy Год назад

when did people forget that this is called drop shotting? why is it getting renamed?

@jackadamz3 3 года назад

Your diagram at the end is covered up by video links.

@jackadamz3 2 года назад

Thanks for fixing that.

@fisherman5874 Год назад

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@michaelkakaley5558 3 года назад

Hate euro? Woah! Less talky-talky and more fishy-fishy. 😉

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Also, less typey-typey more watchey-watchey. ;)

@jaymcgann6637 5 месяцев назад

This style of fishing is why I quit bait fishing 65 years ago.

@sirmegallot3276 3 года назад

This rig creates TONS of slack between your bobber and flies hence why you missed many fish. Tightline systems are just superior in my opinion. This might be a good way to ease into euro nymphing though.

@Bonneville_Brute 3 года назад

Better to have a bigger bag of tricks.

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Josh euro nymphs too. No need to choose just one technique.

@joshuamena153 3 года назад

Seems like I miss many fish with all the techniques lol. I agree on the tight line tho

@sirmegallot3276 3 года назад

Yeah i don't want to discount the technique or sound too critical, I sometimes "bobber fish" from a drift boat so. I came to learn the technique and learn i did, another arrow in the quiver. I appreciate the lesson and the video!

@Waty8413 3 года назад

If you have tons of slack between your flies and bobber on a bounce rig, you are doing it wrong. Ideally. The bobber should be ticking constantly as it maintains tension with the weight which is "bouncing" bottom and crashing into things.

@TNtreasurehunter Год назад

That thing sucks to cast but will catch fish. Better off to use a spinning rod and a slip float.

@FlyFishFood Год назад

Much easier to control with a fly rod. Spinning gear is great too!

@Wogger46 Год назад

Your hands are too far apart when drifting. Super common mistake amongst fly fishers

@willwailes9298 3 года назад

I'd rather just Euro nymph with tenkara. Easy to cast, more natural drift, easier to keep line off the water, super sensitive. Your float is going to move faster than the flies and limit your time in the strike zone.

@FlyFishFood 3 года назад

Sofa King's Stupid Fishing I agree. That’s why he didn’t catch any fish.

@larrythompson2896 3 года назад

@@FlyFishFood Oooh, sassy!