Organizers of New York City’s Pride events said Saturday they are banning police and other law enforcement from marching in their huge annual parade until at least 2025. NBC New York’s Adam Harding reports.
Yea that's true but the NYPD can just show them the video and say "you wanted us out " you got ur wish so DONT BLAME us if something happens to you oh can anyone answer this can the LGBT police officers here in the US can't they sued the NYC pride parade organization for discriminated them against not being allowed in the pride parade in their uniforms? yes or maybe????
"We were the oppressed, so now we're the oppressors." So your perpetuating the very behavior you say you don't condone? Wow. That's quite a leap forward there.
@Mike Hillary Maybe I read it wrong, I thought they banned gay police who want to partake in the parade and when you asked "Who’s oppressing somebody for a behavior?" the answer was the gay organizers are oppressing the individuals who are gay and police officers who want to participate. sort of hypocritical in my opinion.
@Mike Hillary How? Because the Pride March Organizers are bunch of asshurt extremist 2 bit wannabe activists. Who are perpetuating the same behavior they claim to condemn. Bunch of useless idiots who want a cheap 15 minutes of fame even if it means excluding one of our own.
They did this SAME thing in Canada I don't remember the year or town but they banned the Canadian police from either joining, protecting or been near the pride parade but the sadder part is that here they're going to"allowed" the NYPD back in 2025 but in Canada they just ban the police w/out a date if they wanted to join(WHILE IN UNIFORM)
@no no no like I said before I don't remember the town name but it was somewhere in Canada that a off branch of BLM gotten the the towns organization to complete banner the Canadian police a few yrs back
I'm gay and tbh this is why I never really liked associating with these hypocrites. Inclusive and tolerant...but only if we say so! 👍👍👍Also...why not just announce to all the criminals and shit that it will be a free for all. Their brilliance knows no bounds
@james meeks Can a lawsuit be filed against a group if that group doesn't want a police presence? If serious shit happens, I wonder if the police will get called anyway.
You know l like the way you think, are you the only one that deal with reality and I'm not being funny all due respect to you but like you said that's an open invitation to the human garbage in the streets.
Did any gay person actually wanted this or is it just the sponsors idea to look more woke tho? I’m gay and ik for sure I don’t want this to happen and I’ll honestly be to scared to attend pride since there will be no protection and beside most of the cops that attend the pride are gay/bi themselves so they basically ban them from celebrating themselves
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
Gays, (just like straight people) pay taxes all year and therefore the salaries of our men in blue. They (NYPD) are duty-bound to respond professionally when someone calls (no matter who it is).
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
@@hugoh.9694 Hugo: Is this so? Harken back to CHOP/CHAZ in Seattle where someone was shot -- and they *still* ordered the police to stay away and not tend to the victim. What could they do?
@@e13kid I mean the police were kinda their form of security and since the police is defund what do you think will happen it’s not threatening and just thinking reality
That won’t happen, because the police will continue to do their job, even though they are one of the biggest groups of people that is discriminated against, hated, and constantly put down. All they do is receive hate every single day, killed, and threatened. And they will continue to do their job to serve and protect.
@@e13kid who is threatening hate? "Hate" to you liberals is just disagreeing with you politically LOL. It's just like when you call everyone "nazis" or "white supremacists". You've watered down those words so much they don't mean anything. Someone questioned your narrative? They're spreading "hate". I have to give it to you guys, you all have a really good scam going on with the American people and "words". Someone gets in your way politically? Just find a sentence that they said that disagrees with you, tell their employer, you get them fired. And you know it's not because they did anything wrong LOL, it's because you've bullied the employer into a corner with your fake out rage. Nice try....
They do realize *IF* there’s a shooter or a terrorist(God forbid) nobody is going to come save them yeah the ambulances are there so who’s going to take down the Terrorists!?!? the firefighters? the teenage mutant ninja turtles?
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement
@@Powerule23 Mayor Deblasio has put the police on stand down orders for months and, filled NYC hotels with criminal homeless and, inmates from rikrrs island due too covid 19 it's a mess....,...
They pay their salaries so... 🤦♂️ Same as when you have a BBQ and don't invite them to join YOU. You can still call them if you need them. You pay for that ALL year long in the form of taxes. Doesn't mean you have to have them over for your BBQ.
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
👍That's the ONE! It's the same people who suffered brutal beatings and systematic witch hunts at the hand of the NYPD back in the 1960's. Same group who in protest of such beatings created an annual parade/march now called Gay Pride. Same group who understands that to be silent is to be complicit. Same group who now speaks in defense of others when no one spoke out for them. Look up "Stonewall Riots" Through blood and tears, they have earned the right to decide if your actions are consistent with their mission.
@@Chad-oh5ik Oh, that's intelligent and insightful! Thank you SO much for your contribution on the topic. Whatever would we do without it. 🤦♂️ What are you... twelve?
The police could still go, just not in uniform. The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
Meanwhile thousands of New York City cops are crying their eyes out because they can't be in the parade. They had their outfits picked out and everything.
You're right! Given NYPD's enormous contribution to the gay community back in the 1960's, I'm sure they can't sleep at night now that they can't attend. Seeing they were such champions and defenders of the gay community. -sarcasm (Look up "Stonewall Riots") NYPD's systematic brutalization, beatings, violence and witch hunts against the gay community back in the 1960's is (in large part) the reason the Gay Pride march exists today. Created to protest the violence and oppression NY's finest carried out without fail against one of the most oppressed sectors of society. Let's not forget history, lest we all be doomed to repeat it. 🤔
They could still go just not in uniform. The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
The police not being able to attend the pride parade might not be the best idea. I understand why, but remember last year in 2020 when there were a bunch of Pride flags that were stolen or burned. Crimes against people in the LGBTQ+ community could still happen then, which is concerning.
The police will still be around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
If parades and celebrations ban groups from participating then the parades and celebrations should be banned from operating. If they go ahead the organizers should be fined and/or arrested. Various gay pride organizations across NY state have been banned from participating in parades and celebrations and the gay pride organizations protested now they're banning groups from participating?
it is citizen who should listen to cops on the other way lol they should ban protesting due to whatever reason lol you let crazy individuals run the city and wonder why people are leaving lol
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
What a stupid answer. Do you even know the grassroots history of the Pride Parade? This relationship took many years to cultivate between both sides. So much for tolerance and inclusion, just ridiculous!!
People forget sometimes that freedom to demonstrate doesn't mean you can order regulators off of their own land. Your parade will be banned if you attempt to prevent them from ensuring safety of participants and everyone within the vicinity.
I'm gay and I have to say this is the final straw in a lot of pride decisions in the last few years that honestly make me think that that 'lgbt' banner does not include me. I'm so sorry to those gay officers being dismissed by the 'community'. Know that the majority of us do NOT agree with this rubbish and this is just another example of the vocal minority taking over the conversation.
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
@Snarick Klash eh. This needs to happen at least once for police to be trusted again anyways. Or, alternative ending, nothing happens, the world is at a place where police brutality is worse than criminals. Either result seems fine. It's a test they chose to face. People that are unsure about the decision can skip the parade.
The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
@@roove1537 and? I mean, i don't completely agree with this. I can certainly see both sides, and I doubt it's as cut and dry as this 2 1/2 minute video told it as. But if the police cause trouble when they're stationed there, it's completely fine to not want that. But if people are getting hurt I don't think it's unreasonable to call the cops, even if they don't get to be stationed there
This is extremely funny. Be who you are I don't care, however when it's open season at your event please don't call the cops lol call your friends for help.
Just because they were not invited to attend the party does not mean they can't be called if they are needed. 🤦♂️Same as if you had a bbq. You can invite or dis-invited anyone from your bbq just the same. You (just like the gays) pay their salary in the form of taxes ALL year long. The cops are duty-bound to respond and provide a service that has already been paid for if they are called. They can't have it both ways... no matter how well you lick their boots. 👅🥾
@@hugoh.9694 lol@boot licking. You're speaking of services rendered vs common sense and respect. To me an my opinion is their thought process is the same as any oxymoron thinking or putting these suspects that dead at the hands of police and putting them on a high platform with MLK, Marcus Garvey, etc. The president of the LGBTQ+ parade isn't making a statement by doing this but rather making watchers and joining people happy. So screw your speech about tax dollars and services when called. Every cop should go on vacation and then let's see people get help when needed. Oh right my bad call social workers for help to defuse situation. 😱🤣
@@hugoh.9694 That is not the point. The point is that they are generalizing the entire police community because of an act a single person did. Regular cops don't have anything to do at all with the police brutality.
@@steverobinson1868 I don't have to invite you to my bbq to show "respect". 🙏 Plus, if I'm paying you to do a job/ provide a service and you can't or won't do it, you need to find a new line of work and let someone else who can, do it. Advocating for police to take vacation only serves to separate the wheat from the chaff. I think that's an excellent idea! 👍That's a perfect way to weed the barrel of most of the "bad apples". Brutal beatings, witch hunts and coordinated bludgeonings are what they New York's "finest" consistantly dished out on the gay community back in the 60's. Look up "Stonewall Riots of the 1960's". Gay Pride exists today as a form of protest to police brutality that occurred then and beyond. Through blood and tears they have earned the right to decide for themselves who does or does not represent their values. When no one dared speak out in their defense on the systematic violence perpetrated against them, today they dare speak out in defense of others. I find that highly admirable. Bottom line, they collect tax dollars to provide a service. Period. They collected and now they are obligated to provide the service. Professionals will conduct themselves professionally. Even if they are not liked or doted over. You got paid! You can't have it both ways. 🤣 "Common sense"!
Do you know the history of the Pride Parade, dummy? It took years to cultivate this relationship for both sides. What happened to tolerance and inclusion?
Rampant homophobia? Research some stats. The police will still he around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
NYPD, put your foot down. You're not wanted, let them take care of it themselves. If shit goes wrong, oh well, you've got real policing somewhere that's more important than that.
@@thedarkapex5327 well maybe those that made the decision to ban the cops, should have thought of that. Oh well if something happens. Would you feel bad if you offered a drowning person a life raft and they refused?? No, I know I wouldn’t
I am a heterosexual chicano but I lived in West Hollywood, a town known worldwide for it's acceptance of Homosexuality... I enjoyed living there with my girlfriend, now wife.... but the local sheriffs would never stop harassing me, pulling me over several times a week.... finally ending with a run in with "The Banditos Sheriff's Gang"... they wanted to kill me because for the first time in my life I filed a complaint against an officer because he choked and slapped me while handcuffed and manhandled my wife... She convinced me to file the complaint against my better judgement.... I was right.... this made it worse, the Sheriff's Gang would drive down my street and make finger firing gestures at my apartment building.... me and my wife eventually had to flee West Hollywood. For a long time I held onto the Notion that gay people and "Weho"... are people and a town... where you could be as gay as you want to be, but you cannot be Chicano like me..... This current action fills me with a sense of "pride"... now we have to get 2022 LA pride to ban law enforcement as well. As minorities and gays we must not let up in our fight for justice or they will continue to kill and beat us just like they did to gay men at Stonewall.
That is true, but at least some cops should resist unjust laws (maybe some did, I don't know). And there are certainly instances when police participated in "gay bashing" as well. But blaming all police for these actions, especially when they were enforcing local laws, is too much. There needs to be some perspective here.
👍A "blue flu" would be an excellent way to separate the wheat from the chaff." The NYPD historically were the biggest perpetrators of violence against the gay community. 🤦♂️ Look up "Stonewall Riots" and you will find that the gay pride marches that exists today exist in protest of the systematic witch hunts, beatings and gay bashing NYPD carried out against the gay community in the 1960's. These people pay taxes to fund the police. If the need arises to call them, they will. And the police will come and do their job as they should. Especially since these people (in part and for the ENTIRE year) pay their salaries. They have a right to include or exclude anyone who they feel does or does NOT represent what they stand for. NYPD cannot come out on Gay Pride waiving a rainbow flag and pretend all is well to then go back to business as usual.
They are gonna jus blame the police anyway if shit does go down , I’m so tired of Americans ripping on the police and this is jus hypocrisy I don’t want to hear about someone’s bullshit feelings about who they wish to make out with tired of hearing this fraud “struggle” yet demonize the police I hope they get what they deserve maybe this will end
The police will still be around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
So sad. We gay people are doing what we hated… excluding people. I have gone to many pride parades, the cops at the barricades on duty during the parade where always friendly and respectful. This exclusion angers me.
@ben esterberg Do criminals have pensions? Do criminals have to do consistent finger printing and background checks? Or is that something racist such as yourself belive whenever someone refuses to lick boots.
@@coin1686 Don't cry now. You assumed first you cry baby (criminal) That opened the door for me to assume about you (racist) See how that works? It could have been avoided had you not felt compelled to lick boot not thinking I might have a personal issue with THAT police force for a reason. (A valid one) Nope. First thing you think with a smooth brain is... criminal. Go cry to someone who might be on the same intellectual level as you. I am not.
@@coin1686 So to answer your question I called YOU racist. And gave the reason why. I also asked a question about criminals. Clearly I'm not one. Your paragraph doesn't clarify if your racist or not. So... are ya? 😆 Got any black family?
They are doing NYPD a favor, most straight men wouldn't want to watch other men play with each other. No hate to each their own. Plus aren't they opening themselves up to law suits if something happens due to lack of security?
Gay pride or LGBT pride is the promotion of the self-affirmation, dignity, equality, and increased visibility of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people as a social group... NOT police brutality.
Police do not ask for race, Creed, gender, sex orientation, religion, etc. in order for them to assist you. They just go to the crime scene where you direct them to.
They will probably do just as anyone else would do and dial them up. Especially since by way of taxes, they STILL pay their salary. 🤔 It's no different from if you were having a BBQ at your house and didn't invite the police to join you for your BBQ. You can still call them (since you pay taxes) to have them come out and address issues that could arise at your BBQ.
The police will still be around to run traffic, and they'd be there in case of an incident. They just can't partake in the actual march in uniform, because of the way they treated peaceful protesters and stuff. They even said they'd be there for safety in their statement :)
I wonder why the cops have a problem with this.. if there is a gay cop why they have to march wearing their cop attire ..they can march in plain clothes ..in pride we celebrate the LGBTQ community not the police community. Thank you
Thank God I'm a straight white male I'm very proud of it..... EVERYONE LOOK AT ME!!!!!! I'M STRAIGHT MAN AND SPECIAL I HAVE PRIDE STRAIGHT PRIDE MALE PRIDE WHITE PRIDE WOOOOOOOOO!!!!! LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME
I mean I'm gay, but it's good you're proud of yourself. Be happy with yourself, and you are special because you're unique from others. Idk *what* you're proud about specifically with being white/straight/a guy. But, generally, yeah go with it! I know what you were trying to do with this comment. But I want you to understand that being gay isn't like being straight. Within this culture there's a huge negative attitude with being gay. And not *just* being gay. It's also a bunch of lgbt centric words and their attributes too, ones that you probably dont immediately understand. But I'm gay and can only personally speak from that. I grew up in a very homophobic household, a mostly loving one, but not if it were gay/lgbt. I was taught things by my family that i was expected to fallow that made me feel uncomfortable with myself. I'm not alone in that, it's a pretty common story. Not even to mention the politics. But that's why I enjoy pride. I'm definitely not all rainbows every day, but it's certainly something that I enjoy. Seeing an area where I get to be considered "normal". Seeing what amounts to a group of people celebrating themselves and others. Like how plenty of Christians find normalcy in Church, i find normalcy in pride related things. The histories and achievements are celebrated there. It's just pride gets a big parade and a month, while Church gets a day of the week. If you actually read this, i hope something made sense at least.
This is not only a disgrace but a big mistake on the Pride organizers...the Parade begins with the NYPD Marching Band, the Police Commissioner, and the Mayor, along with GOAL and other Law Enforcement Organizations...to denounce NYPD is a major slap in the face...this wonderful relationship took years to cultivate...so much for tolerance and inclusion...as a gay may I am appalled at their decision to exclude NYPD...
They do not even deserve respect if they don't even support their own. I can't stress this enough, regular cops don't have ANYTHING to do at all with the police brutality. Stop generalizing the entire police community because of an act a single person did.
the public isnt in charge of law enforcement. people think they are above the law.... im sure bank robbers dont like security either we see if crime spike in this event, then your negligence nyc played a part and your officials should be held responsible for allowing it. if any gets outta hand the right will say, "the police could've stopped it" you're setting yourself up to fail
