Not even sorry to say but: It's a really bad "pay to win" 2D garbage game. REMEMBER THAT THEY INTENTIONNALY SLOWED DOWN THE SPEED OF BATTLES JUST TO GET YOU TO SUB 12$ /month.
Not to mention he's completely wrong about light armor, not running light armor as a magicka dps is dumb. Sacrificing all those resources for 10% crit dmg is ridiculous.
@Iuppiterr I know that but you don't need the medium either and you have to sacrifice other stuff to get the pen without light armor. Best set up is by far 5 light 1 heavy 1 med
So I started playing ESO recently after watching how much fun Delita's "One bar heavy attack god solo the game" builds and "Plaguebreak AoE farming god" builds were.... I have been playing for a few weeks and managed to finally get my oakensoul ring and all the items in the correct slots / research all the correct traits so that I can reforge the items properly...... I then saved all my gold and materials to make all the items gold tier in quality and I was having a blast for the past maybe three days......Now I see that they're nerfing the plaguebreak set so that it cannot be used in PvE....and are also nerfing the sets I use into the crust of the earth.......there is no reason for me to play anymore.... I literally spent every second since I first made my account building towards this point just to have the rug pulled out from under my feet....... Now I can see the argument that I can just spend the next few weeks with the new trendy build.....but then what..... then zenimax nerfs that set into the ground? So then I try the next trend.... then they nerf that into the ground?
Hi Deltia. I like when ppl find some off-meta so I went for this instead of Storm ( I have storm too but haven't made it ready, like glyphs and traits), the Grave Inevitability from Graven Deep. I know, it's not medium, just light, but I like the stats on it. Have a look, please. Take care and have a nice day now. Thanks for all your work on videos for us. Best regards from Sweden.
it's basically the light version of kinra but with force instead of berserk so it's only good if you have high crit chance which the 1 bar sorc doesn't have
That ring is a blessing for someone like me who is special needs and has a hard time keeping track to two bars. And im on xbox so it helps with me there to lol.
It's sad when normal players now think they are retarded due to the terrible server lag in ESO. There's nothing wrong with you. it's the game. Throw away that handicap placard
Deltia in damage control mode... The whiners won. If it's such a small and insignificant change, why did they make it? Why go to the trouble? Either you're not telling us everything or there is another reason. The actual decrease in damage is 5.56%. Not 10%... if you do the math. 70% damage increase vs 80% damage increase = 5.56% lower total damage.
I love Eso its a great game but i just hate the way they keep nerfing things it makes the game feel like a beta its a mythic ring it should be powerful. It doesnt need nerfs. Plus it helps those less fortunate to be able to get through trials.
With hybridization staves scale with your higher rescources, so I'm going to try Undaunted Infiltrator with Sergant's Mail and Oaken Soul on max stamina sorc build. Edit: I have tried Undaunted Infilitrator (with max stamina), Deadly, and Order's Wrath. All are 8-10k dps worse than Storm Master. Gotta farm Noble Duelist now to try it ;/
Noble duelist is comparable to storm master, just realize that you are going to be well overpen on the parse dummy because it's a hair under completely armor stripped. Might want to run tests on the 3M, that'll give a better idea on comparing what you can do in solo/4 man
Nobel duelist is better in content and basic dummy parse. On trial dummy storm masters does better but still parses like dogshit now and hits like a wet noodle. Basically this build was turned into a solo only build with Nobel duelist and storm masters was turned into pieces of armor to deconstruct.
Thanks for testing the changes, Deltia. I use Infallible Aether in 4-man content, and it actually puts out pretty impressive damage. The extra pen from from light armor is still usually needed in dungeons.
You forgot 5x light armor is required for magicka shields for classes that lack one. Soloing dungeons also means I will be in melee range 100% of the time. So Noble Duelist or 5x crafted light Order’s Wrath might be more useful than medium Storm Master.
Thanks for explaining this Deltia. I can already see all the elitist babies still crying that it still needs nerfed. However, since I suffer from severe carpal tunne ( only play support due to this)...I will still be able to play as a competent DPS without being carried so I am happy.
Honestly Empower is/was not the issue. The single target damage was not on par with two bar builds Looking at parses 107k on a HA sorc vs parses of 125-133k on all classes that run two bar that’s still a 20-30% gap. If anything they should’ve raised the damage of empower but looked at scaling back tri-focus and left storm master alone.
Exactly right, there was NO issue with this setup except being way less powerful than 2 bar. Even the AOE effect isn't an issue because you are sacrificing a full back bar of AOEs just to get a bit of shock splash damage. You are right if anything it should be buffed.
as a new player to the game there's a lot of things I don't understand but that's why I am so glad I found your channel. you explain things in a way that is very accessible to new players. I don't have an Oakensoul build, don't know if I ever will, but I learned a lot just by watching. thanks for sharing.
I always wondered about the sunderflame set for CoA. That 10k flame damage from heavy attacks looks like it could be quite useful. And if I’m not mistaken it’s medium armor.
Only issue with that set is that it's a DoT and not all at once, or added per tick like the current Heavy attack sets. Personally I'm looking at Kinras's Wrath since the heavy channel should get you 3 stacks in one heavy so if you LA weave while slapping down DoTs you'll have Major Berserk going in no time. Relequen should also stack per HA tick but the slayer line is dead and it's just single target damage.
There's a few sets like that but the issue is that's just 10k damage straight, the reason storm master etc are so strong is it's flat damage added to your heavy attack that is then magnified by empower and a few other things which results in the 30k+ heavy attacks you see, sets like sunder flame aren't even close.
@@memitim171 ahh I gotcha. Now what about for pvp seeing as most play as vamp. 10k flame damage could be quite useful in a heavy attack build or would storm masters still be stronger?
@@garrettcarper3438 Storm master won't work for pvp after the patch so literally anything else would be better, sunder flame is still trash tier though.
I think Necrom will be skipped by many and the new class bought with crowns when it becomes available. It's the first major DLC I will NOT be buying since I've started playing 5 years ago. Enough is enough.
Undaunted Unweaver set is a good alternative also. You get two lines of magicka and one crit chance. Just use a stamina ability in combat every 10s. For Sorcs Hurricane, Crystal Weapon, or Barbed Trap are good.
Why further pick on Oakensoul though? Zenimax is so incredibly petty. Picking on a niche category of players who use heavy attack builds. It wasn't impacting on the game in any significant way, it just gave a small category of people a little bit of joy in still playing a game that's already bleeding players. The only class that's truly somewhat op with this build is the sorc, the rest are weak and soon to become worthless as an Oakensoul build, and I've tried them all. Why? Why shit on your players? How about we skip your latest chapter Zenimax? The Arcanist looks and performs pretty bad anyway. How about we wait to buy it with crowns that we bought with in game currency and not real money. Keep treating us like shit and people will eventually stop paying you.
Lets be honest here... Outside of fully optimized groups no one is choosing to wear Alkosh. You might as well go Noble Duelist vs Storm Master even in most group content.
13:10 you say the 2x max stamina of undaunted infiltrator doesn't do anything for us, but doesn't heavy attack damage scale of your highest stats so you could maybe respec into a stamina build then those 2x max stamina would be very useful. You'd still have plenty of magicka for your abilities due to the resources you get back from heavy attacking with a lightning staff. I may be wrong but just a thought...
Have you tested switching out Storm Master's with Grave Inevitability which would stack alongside Sergant's and provides Major Force to compliment Oakensoul's Minor Force?
Why you just don’t go fully stamina with undaunted infiltrator? You will have sustain for your 3 Magic skills with that HA rotation. It will be 100% uptime and you Will use sets potential
Infallible mage is for two bar heavy attack builds because minor slayer is wasted. Oakensoul comes with minor slayer. Templars and dks can do two bar heavy attack builds though so infallible mage is for them.
a whole video and it'll probably get nuked further next PTS update ^^ good that you explained the armor situation, like a lot of people don't know about this I feel like
Bro, thank you for the break down. Really great to see the specifics through CMX. Never really looked at that and have been playing for a while. Cheers!
I am so confused. Going back to U35, ZOS said in writing, their goal was to reduce the skill gap and started by nerfing light attacks. Then immediately turned around and nerfed Oakensoul to an even heavier extent. So they ended up reducing high end parses by like 15% but gutted the overall damage by like 30% for Oakensoul, which almost no high skilled players use, they want their 2 bars. So after all is said and done, high skill players are still parsing 100k or more while Oakensoul is around 80k-85k. And now they nerf it further? Are we trying to widen the skill gap again? I just purchased ESO+ right before the Jubilee event to give this game another shot. Guess what I just went and cancelled on the ESO website from auto-renewing??? It really sucks when the game introduces something like Oakensoul which helps new and low skilled players. Then ZOS says they want to help close the gap so those same new and low skilled players can do harder content but all they have done since is nerf it over and over. Not only that, now they pigeonhole you into a specific build with almost no flexibility at all. JUST DULL!!!!
it’s fine to say don’t jump to hate on nerfs except when they nerf things over and over. its human nature to feel hoodwinked by a company that is trying to sell a patch to you only to nerf gear right after you buy the patch for a specific build. is it still good? yeah, but they nickel and dime this ring to death to the point that i think it’s going to be non viable soon
@@LostHorizons0r good reason, have you seen how many pugged IRs and other clears have been happening. That level of ease of use to the point that people have been able to pug trial trifectas means it warrants a nerf. The tankiness, ease of use and damage that these builds are putting out is insane and in stuff like vAS they’re actually outperforming traditional builds, and that stuff will still be possible and most likely still outperforming next patch because this nerf is so tiny. People overreacting like crazy lmao
@@Wintarh you are comparing Usain Bolt to the average player who is not performing like that. The average person using this build is a casual or solo player just trying to solo world bosses or trying to enter duengons for the first time. Those hitting insane numbers are extremely rare, and most of which are already experienced 2 bar players… and 2 bar still out performs. But keep crying.
@@LostHorizons0you obviously live under a rock, IRs have been getting pugged with OAKENSOUL builds like crazy recently, it’s not hard to hit high when all you’re doing is holding a single button and queuing in a skill. But oh well keep crying about your 5% nerf instead of trying to improve your 25k dps lmao
Yes and no, regarding light/med armour. In optimised groups, certain light sets are still used. Runecarver on Oax HM, for example. Obviously, you would never use RC on a HA Oaken build.
You bssically lost major berserk on your heavy attack which is indeed a nerf but not a game breaking one. I suspect another oak nerf is coming once necrom has settled in and they do their usual 'balance' update full of bs
After watching the game play it appears to me that this is definitely a nerf. It continues to amaze me that ZOS adheres to the Blizzard game management system. Give them something great and get them excited....then nerf the hell out of it and wonder why people leave the game. Nerfs are never good....not for the player and really not for the game. Oakensoul build too powerful for PVP? Simple make it only against monsters....don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. These coders are lazy and suck at their jobs. It is always easier to nerf than to really balence.
It doesn't matter what u do or what gear u have it's about how fast ur fingers move for damage that's why ppl have bad dps with the exact build an expert has
Thank you for the detailed video. HA Oakensoul builds have been a game changer for a lot of people. Do you think we will see any other nerfs affecting HA builds?
Former player of "Hero Wars" myself: Look 1) its a pay to win 2) the longer you will be playing the less you will be powerful because you will wnt to compete in the silver and gold league and that is where all the "whales"(players that payed 10 000$ to have an edge on you) end up so you will be concentrating the "pay to win" even more making you a fool or a test dummy. 3) players end up deserting the game so you are left with partners that don't even remotely able to fight against whales 4)being in the silver range or in the gold range doesn't give you anything new in rewards. It's just a 2D lame game AND the WORST PAY TO WIN GAME EVER. 5) wait until Xmass to notice that all you did prior ALL YEAR LONG is going down the drain with all the Xmass goodies.=( then people usually quit after Xmass) The game gets old and you opponents are whales your friends are whales and they kick and rage about anything like most whales do. REMEMBER THAT THEY INTENTIONNALY SLOWED DOWN THE SPEED OF BATTLES JUST TO GET YOU TO SUB 12$ /month can you imagine ESO+ doing the same thing like not being able to run or use mounts at 100% speed?
Just got OS and the sets needed to make it work, unfortunate that they nerfed it but at least it’s not completely gutted. Appreciate the vid and verified info.
on undaunted the stamina doesn't technically give you any damage stats, but it does allow more breathing room for dodges or break frees so it's not a terrible stat to have :D
In theory yes, but really I never run out of stamina on this build and you don't need potions so you are free to use stamina pots if you need the extra so in reality it is a worthless stat.
Have you tried building a max stam heavy attack setup and use undaunted infiltrator? Probably can’t sustain with wall but using hurricane and trap should be better than the nerfed storm master, especially with infiltrator’s 2 max stam lines, and as long as someone else provides off balance. Also, oakensoul gives minor slayer, so another reason to downgrade infallible mage set.
Ya, just tested max stam heavy attack with undaunted infiltrator on pts and got 91 k on first parse and not sure if med armor passives are working (cmx showing 115% crit damage). Looks like this might be the way to go.
@@jmartinez5638 Skills: hurricane, trap, prey, scamp, tormentor CP: Deadly aim, backstabber, weapons expert, master at arms. Thief mundus. Got to 92.3k. Average about 89-90k. Could probably get 94-95k crit farming
I'm using an Oak/HA Temp build with these gear sets, so I really appreciate the cool-headed analysis and the time you took to work this out. Thanks Deltia.
Quick question, I leaned into the hybrid advantage with Oakensoul, on my Imperial, by going ahead and just going with Stamina --- since my damage scales off the highest, in this case stamina, and my heavy attacks ensure I have more than enough magic to always have uptime on any magic skill I use.... would Undaunted Infiltrator be a better build on that?
If i get 5% dmg in dungeons with infallible set but have oakensoul on (which gives minor slayer 5%dungdmg)does it give me a 10% increase or make the set useless?
I'm glad it's not hurt Oakensoul that much . I've been playing for 2 years , never done a trial , done 1 vet and was told my damage was crap on the last boss , I was dead the whole time lol . And I only ever do the lower dungeons and no DLC's I believe . The reason is I have arthritis and it affects my hands so Oakensoul has been a blessing , it's just too much for me to swap bars and have another 5 buttons to mash . If Oakensoul came to a point where it was unplayable I would probably have to stop playing , so glad it's not that bad .
Luckily i have a full golded out set of duelist sitting in the bank. Storm masters not popping off is already noticeable and being over pen is not really a problem, you're not even going over that much and thats assuming everyone else youre relying on are doing their jobs well. Run duelist, change to apprentice mundus, crit surge-hurricane-wall-ward-power overload. Face tank bosses easy af
@versechorusverse1969 if I'm in a group I'll put on matriarch and run as a healer or if im solo I like daedric mines. I open with mines because they do good damage and will immediately activate your minor prophecy/sorcery passive (the morph that arms immediately)
I really love your videos. Thank you for this incredible work - I was so scaried about the nerf, and then you came and clarified ALL that matters... Thank you Deltia!
It's not accurate to say the pen from light is worthless because you aren't getting 18.2k pen for free on anything but a dummy, just over 9k is basically free because all tanks will run pierce (+the 700 from CP) but the rest comes with opportunity cost, the sets that are providing the rest of the pen can be swapped out for other sets if all your dps wear light and the crit dmg from medium can be picked up elsewhere.
This. Plus SM still procs from critical hit. changing mundus to lover and trait to sharpened, you lower your crit chance and proc SM even less. With 5 sec uptime, that is a mistake. Another point: you keep talking about trial conditions, but many ppl run HA dps trial groups where you don't necessarily have alkosh at all. So, hitting pene cap is not that obvious in every scenario. Every HA trial groups know this already
What are your thoughts on the class changes? I don't get buffing NB damage, but really, I'm so frustrated that they can't let Wardens have a stun. It's just so dumb.
@@Seb7an they're adding a two second delay to arctic. They've messed with that skill so much. It's already blockable. I don't get why they can't let Wardens have an on-demand stun
you fail to tell ever one to do the damage you do and to get the stuff you got you have to be lv.50 and cp point 160 tell you get that you cant get the stuff you show
Yeah sure don't fix crate gifting, unkillable DKs that easily fight 4-6 people without dying, pets constantly getting in the way with giant hit boxes or lighting tri focus still hitting like a truck on players if you target an NPC. Things that would actually improve the gaming experience. Soon PVP is just going to be all DKs and Sorcs if not already. Pvp is a joke right now. But hey nerf the already limited good 1 bar guilds that make the game accessible to more people. ZOS doesn't care about growing the game or actually balancing anything. Meanwhile Arcanist still sucks for 1 bar and they're only making it worse with these nerfs. Definitely not preordering jack shit. This game is going to be dead in a year. Too many constant changes and usually not good ones.
It’s because a small minority of sweaty elite gatekeeping cunts keep calling for nerfs and they will continue to until This build isn’t viable anymore. I i already canceled + I’m just gonna go back to playing Skyrim until TEs 6 comes out this game is fucking fan fiction anyway… these writers don’t even know the locations in the lore properly are told about their mistakes and just leave it in the game. Lore breaking shit with horrible devs and cancer player base
What's the problem with this game 3 days now can't login tried everything to fix nothing is happening 10 years now with no fixes f joke as soon as I buy the new necrom this is happening what's up with that I got your money now your baned it's what this feels like mass report plz I feel robbed if the devs are watching this free apex for all PlayStation users because they are the ones suffering with this issue with no response
This is a PVE buff *Empower* so why nerf it? 80% increased damage vs monsters/NPC. I’m a PVP so I only like it vs guards. As to Oakensoul I use it but I hate being forced to choose it. Why a nightblade can’t get half the back bar buffs as OS gives always on. Only 6 skills? I swap out as a situation presents. Buffing uses resources that OS doesn’t. It means I can fight with zero downtime. 2bar it’s 20s then rebuff mindlessly with zero gain. Major resolve always on priceless.
About Arcanist i think HackTheMinotaur made an OK one bar build, and i saw someone pars about 128k on trial dummy i think it was. (I cant remember the content creator for the high pars and if its a fake.) It was Skinny Cheeks commenting a pars from Kortekk
Going stamina wouldn't be better? All benefits from medium armor, HA will make sure you'll never run out of Magicka for your dot's and you will have plenty of stamina to roll/dodge/block/dance....
I’m still looking forward to June 20 for high isle to be available to eso plus on PSNA. I think Oakensoul will pair good with Magblade, vamp stage 4. Probably Pariah as second 5 piece.
Deltia, have no idea if you read these but you probably do... not vid relates but it's your last vid and hope you see this... The performance in pvp on xbox eu server is nearly unplayable I have tried opening a thread on forums to no avail... please please can you just mention it to the devs or use some magic to get the word out to someone to sort it...
I just got an ad for eso pvp? Have I missed something or are they still not doing any updates for pvp are new servers even out yet for consoles? I haven’t really been keeping up with the game too much
TLDR, it is definitely a straight up nerf but don't worry it seems small. But the point is WHY IS THIS NERF HAPPENING? If it is so small what's the point. And why is the PRECEDENT that these builds even needed to be nerfed, which opens the door for further nerfs. The gatekeepers won't be satisfied until these builds are useless.
Agreed and it pushes away the disabled. Trust me many elderly players 70+ and people with hand issues and being able to play more content in this game becuase of this build. All says is zos doesn’t give a fuck about these demographics and only the “high end” elitist gatekeepers.Zos will no doubt lose money from this nerf and especially if they do more becuase of these cry babies. Many people already are talking about canceling eso + over this. We are paying customers.
@@LostHorizons0 Well said, the patch notes literally says how this brought many users to endgame (HELLO, don't they want MORE of that not less). And the 'reason' for the nerf is they think some people are doing better with HA build than they can with 2 bar, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE MYTHIC. The gatekeepers say the same stupid moronic stuff over and over until ZOS even starts to say the same nonsense. I cancelled ESO+ too. I wish I didn't buy Necrom because this HA build nerf issue is so dumb I now feel like quitting the game too.
@@dontblockmedk same I already pre ordered it I will finish the main quest but there is already lore breaking stuff with the map and locations and now this nerf. I’m likely gonna just go back to playing the older TEs titles until tes 6. I’ve been playing these games since Daggerfall and that’s what drive me to eso. But zos is a horrible dev team who hates real elder scrolls fans, and hated it’s customers who treats them like shit nickels and dimes them and than gas lights them. Not to mention the player base is so fucking toxic and half don’t even give a crap about the world / lore of the series just the competitive crap it’s such a jock mentality. I hope they lose a lot of money over this and I hope the game fails at this point they don’t care about us I don’t care about them. It’s a shame they wasted lore of great areas for a mmo and didn’t save it for a spin off made by bgs. While Todd and his crew aren’t perfect it’s still light years better than the shit zos does. To be all honest I have very little faith in elder scrolls 6 now too. This is just pushing me close and closer to fromsoft and I’m already a souls vet.
@@LostHorizons0 Yeah, I'll still play around with the new class and non-la weaving mythic. I don't get into the lore that much but it's a shame it they are ruining it. Hopefully they'll stop catering to gatekeepers and stop messing with HA builds, ideally they should just finally remove LA weaving. I just noticed one of the new skills on arcanist has a 'skill cooldown' this is amazing, because lots of the powerful skills should have cooldowns too. Those 2 things would improve combat massively and make the game much better.
@@dontblockmedk yeah personally I’d rather the combat be like Skyrim. Where it’s hack and slash you control directly with skills you can use on the side whenever you want. (Skyrim has shouts which are basically skills that have a cool down ). The weaving thing is dumb and should have been fixed right away and never existed as a “mechanic” it has created a really bizarre culture of weird button mashing aggressive digital jocks. It’s a shame becusse the elder scrolls is the second best fantasy world since Tolkien. But eso has a trash community and awful dev team.
I was wondering if deadly strike works with resto and lighting heavy attacks since they are considered channeling. And if so why is no one useing that set with the templars. Why not drop the storm master for deadly and also utilize the radiant destruction morphs? Just wondering if anyone has tried this setup instead. Im assuming its due to damage not being enough but without actually testing it... it kind of seems like a no brainer if the HA's work with deadly. And just to be clear keep everything the same except for swaping storms with deadly. And maybe slotting thaumaturge and deadly aim in cp.
i wish they can change relequins trial set from light or heavy attack to any damage dealt so we get winds and many more targets and doesnt make set clunky and more group play content i would totaly try relequin with sargeans mail im still pisses they nerfed vipers years ago and i want the rebirth of viper gang and no martial bs connected to it
