@@mrkipling2201 for sure. Also isn’t it true Guigsy didn’t even play on DM, rather Noel played his parts. So again, why would Tony be talked like he was the crap one when he did play on the record.
@@nobrakesukspeedway The early recordings I'm referring to is when they were called The Rain. Noel Joined the band last. Liam was singing in the band before Oasis happened.
Can’t hear joy division. Maybe the bass? Got a smiths sort of structure to it if anything. Joy division had a gloomy sound to most of their music whereas this is more upbeat like many of Johnny marrs riffs. Ian Curtis and Liam gallagher have 2 totally different and unique styles. It’s a mix of the smiths and the stone roses if you ask me.
These are actually better than I thought they'd be. You can hear The Smiths and Roses influences. But if Noel hadn't come along I think they would of just been a really good first division indie/shoegaze band. Instead of the premiere league legends that Oasis are.
brother Oasis es una de las mejores de bandas de rock de los 90's y facil facil objetivamente puede se una de las mejores 20 bandas de la Historia , Supersonic, Slide Away, Bring it on Down , Listen up , Headshrinker, Morning Glory , Wonderwall, dont look back in ager , whatever, Don't go away , Stop crying your hearth out , Gas Panic , esas son canciones que estan en la Historia del rock y cualquier banda mataria por tener 1 cancion asi de hecho muchas bandas tienen solo 1 o 2 canciones para la Historia Oasis faci facil tiene 10 , escucha las canciones que mencione y veras @@fzunigat
Liam & Bonehead ought to record fully realized versions of these early ideas now. Just to see where the tunes end up. If Guigs and Tony wanted to jump on board for a short time I think it’d be pretty bloody cool personally.
@@utchpunk9611 I love Whitey, but I agree. Sometimes the raw energy is better than the metronome accurate machine. I always loved Dave Mustaines leads on Peace Sells album for the same reason - it's so unpolished it's fantastic. Mcarroll had a raw energy about his style.
Always nice to hear this. ** Note though that they weren't called The Rain then. They changed the name to Oasis just before Noel joined, so with Noel on this demo, they were already Oasis.
In the netflix documentary it's Noel who says that the name Oasis was chosen because it was everywhere around Manchester, taxis, plumbing service, food service, everything, so Oasis turned out to be just after Noel joined.
@@brunohistoriayletras That don't really prove anything, Noel just tells you the name's origin story in the doc without telling he had already joined them at that point. They most probably were named Oasis for relatively short while before, but Noel joined pretty soon after. We're talking months or weeks here. Why do I think so? There's an interview from 1994 by Gary Crowley here in youtube with both Liam and Noel, where Noel clearly says "The band was called Oasis when I joined it".
"Columbia" was written by Chris Griffiths (first verse and ad-libs), Noel (second verse) and Liam Gallagher (choruses) but Noel only credited just himself as the songwriter which is not true as who wrote it and was written by the whole band minus Noel. Chris didn't talk about who wrote the bridge though. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W9-JjqJMHRs.html You can find out about where James Hargreaves Guitar talks about who wrote "Columbia".
These songs are not Amazing lmao 🤣 😂 you're just saying they are because it's oasis haha if anyone else put these songs out you literally wouldn't even listen to the full songs you'd switch off and say it's crap hahah
@@NellyGandhellawhat’s your issue? You go round commenting that the songs are shit because you feel the need to spread hate? Can you write better than these songs? I don’t think you could. So maybe spend more time in the real world and less time commenting stupid opinions
So at the beginning, their music was very stone Rose's inspired but then they later took more after the beatles. But imagine if they stuck by the stone Rose's inspiration instead, imagine how different they'd end up.
@@philthompson9403 They defiently do, noel even said they intended to be the modern day beatles, they also used sections such as the piano intro from imagine and used it in don't look back in anger, they also used the intro to dear prudence as their outro on a dig out your soul song and had ringos son drum on the album. They always tried to be beatles esk, doesn't mean they are identical or anything but it was a huge inspiration to all the bands work and they admit this
Georgie Is not okay They did that to mess with the media and were just pulling their strings. Oasis don’t “sound” like the Beatles despite their huge influence on Noels songwriting and Liam’s voice. Early oasis was very Slade inspired and Noel has said that himself. He never understood the Beatles comparisons
@@10jonchannel If someone lyricism and singing in a band are heavily beatles inspired as you say wouldn't the band naturally sound like the beatles? I really don't think their that similar but they undeniably took heavy inspiration and admired them and showed it in the music
Georgie Is not okay I could be inspired by Ed Sheeran‘s lyrics and try to sing like him, but if I plug in an Electric guitar and crank it to 10, with some bongos, I won’t sound like Ed Sheeran would I? Oasis were a rock band, the Beatles dabbed in multiple genres so you can’t say “they sound like the Beatles” when it’s just not true
I've played drums 30 years and I think he's a fairly decent drummer. Definitely maybe wouldn't have sounded as good with any of the other drummers they've had
Really they should have both played lead in both played rhythm at different times. Could have had a more dynamic sound that evolved more than it ever did. Nobody ever seemed to push themselves as a player and everybody strictly stuck to their role. Completely opposite of what the Beatles did where you'll find each of them playing different instruments on different songs, etc. Made it more interesting. If I was bonehead I would have gotten bored just playing bar chords all the time. Towards the end of Oasis career there was not a ton of lead guitar anyway which kind of worsened it for me. Noel leads are pretty simple but they're distinct and effective. And based on take me, bonehead wasn't a slouch himself.
The handwriting is wrong I think. With these songs and the early demos by Noel we can get a good idea about what they were preparing for us. Of course, with the influence of The Real People they got so fucking great from the beginning
@@anthonymcneil1542 I'm pretty sure Liam and Bonehead just stopped expressing much of an interest in songwriting after Noel took over as lead songwriter shortly before Definitely Maybe. Noel actually liked the song Take Me, and wanted them record it again during the Morning Glory era, but Bonehead and Liam didn't want to. It's a bit of a shame, because I think if the rest of the band helped out in songwriting, it would have saved them a little during the Be Here Now era. That being said, I'm pretty sure there's an interview around 1997 or 1998 where Noel talks about letting everyone else write songs, and he says that if he lets Liam he would have to let Bonehead, so then he would have to let Guigsy, and then he would have to let Alan, too.
this early stuff is fascinating to hear! there is obviously a huge stone roses influence for these tracks, but they're really not bad! also, tony's drumming is genuinely brilliant on these tracks, it's a shame that presumably noel limited him to playing simple snare/hi-hat based rhythms when this stuff is great
Why are the title telling "Then called Rain" since the tape shown already says it's "Oasis". The band was called Rain for about half a year 'til Liam joined and renamed it, and this is from the time Noel's also joined in To my knowledge there are no tapes available at all from "Rain -era" when they had different singer.
In tony mc.carrolls book he states that the first recordings with Noel were at AbrahamMoss studios.So Noel isnt actually on this.He also said, rather tongue-in-cheek, that when Noel was hawking this tape, he was always at pains to point out that he wasnt actually on it! (Despite adding his name "rythm"in the margin.)
I had a whole album of oasis pre definitely maybe and lost it it was a live album ... I presumed It was not the only one to have it ? but I’ve never heard it since .... very sad story
She always comes up smiling And playing with her hair She sometimes says I'm lying She thinks that I don't care I know that if I see you I have to look and smile I know that if I hear you I think I'll run a mile She sometimes makes me blushing By saying silly things She don't know where she's going With all the cheapskate things You never really spoke to me You only stand still From now I think you've learned to see I never really cared If there's a day where you feel like this You just sit down and you reminisce You take some time to think it out Not knowing what it's all about Now if you know you're really sure You want this but I want more All the time you've been sitting here Living your life when it's full of fear Searching for a brand new start Is it in me or is it in my heart? Feeling embarrassed, don't know what you read And anything that you said her said Now you know what I have to do I have to get, get rid of you Now you know what I have to do I have to get, get rid of you I tell you that I want out You ask me what is it all about Is it really making sense Or won't you doubt we were never meant? Take me when I'm young and true Was it me or was it you? Take me when I'm not so strong Why has it taken you so long? Take me when you feel I've gone I always knew I could be someone Take me if you think you're right Do it now before it's light Take me if you think I'm sweet Though my life feels incomplete Take me when I wish to live For I still have this to give Take me when I'm young and true Was it me or was it you? Take me when I start to die Take me, take me don't ask why
Hell yeah. Has the post punk vibe. Even 60s indie band stuff. I was impressed with that number and the vocals, which there’s argument on this thread whether that’s Liam or not and I don’t think is. I have to listen with headphones proper but it doesn’t sound like his tone.
Could easily imagine seeing this at Number 47 on the Indie Chart on Ceefax. There must have been hundreds of tapes like this by wannabee bands. Makes you wonder how bands ever got signed in the first place?
Not really the gallaghers family are irish and were heavily involved in the Manchester irish/traditional music scene for years and noel was a roadie for the inspiral carpets and had toured before..so it had to be connections
I'm sure this has been asked many times (I scrolled down the comments, however, and couldn't find anything) but why is Noel listed on the cassette, despite not having joined the band at this point? Also, is there much info about them when they were called The Rain? Gig listings? Photos? Timelines? I'm fascinated in their development.
Not sure why the video description says they were called The Rain, the demo tape clearly says Oasis on it. And neither Liam or Noel were ever in The Rain. Liam changed the name of the band to Oasis the second he replaced Chris Hutton on vocals.
Sam K Liam and Noel said a lot of shit about a lot of artists, but I know for certain they admired Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. Kurt appears in one of the portraits on the wall behind Liam in the US music video version of Live Forever
@@bleep77 the portraits showcase dead musicians if I´m not mistaken. Pretty sure Noel liked Kurt except his pessimism and that he wrote Live forever as a response.
Got to start. thats usually with covers then gaining confidence in who you're playing with then moving onto jamming and then creating somthing similar to what you really dig then you have a set, play it live, tweak it, write more...play more live gigs....then the who knows? (Unless your brother turns up with what he has and changes the direction) i still think this would have grown into something we would all have been mad for (sic)
HAHA Liam's definitely stayed true to his misspelling! Anyhoo, the songs are pure awesomeness. Just wondering, why does it say "pre-Noel" when it's written on the very tape he was there?
ITS A REAL DEMO BY EARLY OASIS BEFORE NOEL TOOK OVER BUT STILL BETTER THAN MOST DEMOS FROM THAT TIME... THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A DEMO WAS WAY MUCH HARDER THEN THAN TODAY, PLUS YOU HAD TO PAY FOR REAL STUDIO TIME AND A MACHINE TAPE NOT DIGITAL 1/31/21 - LANCE ROMANCE 😊
I remember the first few demos my band did in proper studios, around 93-94, and we left with cassettes which seems mad now...one little accident with the tape player in the car home and your work would be gone 🤦🏻♀️
Reminisce sounds like our James’ band the Waltones who featured a young Mark Collins. A band that is never sighted as an influence on Noel and Bonehead.. a young Noel used to follow them about and come to see them at gigs asking about their guitars so I’m told.
Before learnt or was brave enough to just sing out as loudly as he could or as McCartney says sing out the top of your head, which is really hard to do when u think about it you never use your voice as loud as you can. Most of the bands today have singers that can’t don’t sing with all there might they just sing like Liam is doing here. All the big rock bands esp last big 3 had special singers Axl Rose, Cobain and Liam Gallagher
Liam and Peter hook should get together living legends still top of there game after so many years both have fell and come back to give us what we want
