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Can I request a video on pet food & how little meat is actually in them & some of the questionable shit they use as fillers? How they put fruits, vegetable, & grain in cat food when they literally do not have the enzymes necessary to digest that shit?
That’s fine. It’s only a difference of semantics aka language. The highest level of Canadian nutrition authority released their guide in which “dairy” is not even recognized or recommended towards achieving a nutritious lifestyle. I don’t care if people drink plant/milk/drink/liquid, as long as they are drinking anything besides the stuff that comes out of a cow that’s been r*ped, had her children taken away, enslaved, and murdered. Plant drinks are on the incline with consumers and the opposite is true of the stuff that comes from a cow that’s been r*ped, children stolen, enslaved, and murdered. It is only a matter of time before we are consistent with our treatment of non-human animals. When will you go vegan? Also, what is wrong with you? I drink water most 90% of the time anyways. It’s abundant and the most hydrating beverage on earth.
@@Commonclaus Its not the first time governments gives bad advice. Humans are drinking milk for thousands of years, it helped us survive, grow and have easy access to nutrients. Milk is not your enemy.
@@lazar2949 I’d like to see the evidence that MOST humans throughout MOST OF HISTORY were drinking milk TO SURVIVE. Sure, pockets of peoples in the Central Asian plains and Sahara deserts did not have many better options for most of history. Does that mean you, a modern human using RU-vid for leisure in 2023 needs milk or any sort of dairy? Unless you are an infant I would say no. I would also like to know what nutrients are found in dairy not found in plants; besides cholesterol, a chemical linked to more deadly diseases in humans than any nutrient-chemical?
I’ve often wondered why oat milk from the store was so incredibly sweet, since no kind of sugar or sweetener is on the ingredients list. Thanks for explaining!
@@seanplateau8912 when you put oats in your mouth, the starches in oats get broken down into sugars by enzymes in your saliva - that's why they can be sweet. it's true for any starchy food. i don't think they would have to list down a manufacturing process which uses the same enzyme in the list of ingredients. there's a possibility that there are sugars in your oat drink. regardless of whether it's sweet sugars or not, they're all carbohydrates that will eventually raise your blood sugar. the best drink will always be the least "nutritious" one - water.
i think it would be rly intresting to see yall do an episode on protien/health bars, alot of them claim to be what they arnt, full to the brim with sugar and other processed aditives
Lot of whey protein powder companies also do nitrogen spiking or amino spiking where they say there is certain amount of protein per scoop but in reality its much less
I started making my own Oat milk at home because it was too expensive and I'm lactose intolerant so it was almost just as expensive to buy the lactaid stuff. I kept wondering why my stuff wasn't tasting the same as the store bought stuff. I got really close though, and got it to a point where I can and do drink the homemade stuff. It's just oats, water, and honey or maple syrup. It's like a 5 step process and it tastes fine for a fraction of the price. (it's about 2 tbsp of honey or syrup per liter of milk). I'm just glad to know that I wasn't crazy and that the homemade recipes were never going to taste like the store bought stuff. I feel so validated.
Can you write the full recipe? I’m lactose intolerant too so i can’t drink real milk and lactaid is only so effective for me. But I love cereal and coffee lol!
What's maddening is that I've tasted oat milk and I LOVE it. I thought that's because I've always been the weird kid who likes oatmeal, lol. But it's not worth all those nasty ingredients.
cow milk is just as unhealthy as coke and oatmilk so your not winning any battles sanzy how did this not get invented 1000's of years ago its just oats and water and some plant oil
I live in Germany and the oat milk here does not contain any of these other additives except for sunflower seed oil and some sea salt. Everytime I see an American video about Food, I feel so lucky to be in Europe 😢
Hey, please differentiate oatly and oat milk. On every capter oat milk was claimed bad because of examples from oatly. I personally don‘t buy oatmilk from brands that put a lot of chemicals in their product (like oatly does). Idk how it is in america but here in europe we have indeed oatmilk productions that are only made out of oats and water (and sometimes salt) and they don‘t taste as bad as you might think;)
Wait, the oat milk you're drinking is made with oats and MILK? Like, dairy cow milk...? Doesn't that kind of defeat the whole purpose of 'milk alternative'?
You don't take into consideration Americans taste buds are wired for sugar so to us it would taste a lot different and more noticeable if it wasn't as sweet
Homemade oat milk is fine. It is not "garbage". I use 1 cup rolled oats to 4 cups luke warm water and a pinch of salt and blend, blend, blend. Then I strain it in a nut bag and keep the oatmilk ice cold in the fridge. Use the leftover oats to make banana oat bread or oatmeal raisin cookie.😊 It's been 2 months since I posted this! Give it a break already! Enough replies. If you have something to say, post it in the main thread. Thanks!
@@chris283 language is just a convention. We could decide tomorrow to call milk "cow juice" and you'd have to deal with it. If people agree to call this oat infused water "oat milk" then they will
I make my own oat milk with oats I buy in the market and I’ve been doing that for years… processed oat or seed milk are a completely new thing in my country. Now I understand how valuable is to be able to go to the market, buy my own natural ingredients and do my own meals… it’s a strange luxury in this weird world isn’t it?
@Beloved Santoryu I live in a major metropolitan city and my girlfriend and I were just talking about how there isn’t a single place within a reasonable distance to us where we could buy something that is guaranteed to be natural and non-processed. Sometimes I look at my fridge and around my room and all I see is chemicals and ultra processed food and items. Indeed, the world is starting to feel very weird, bordering creepy even.
First off, not all plant milks have added oil but when it does it's a very small amount usually 2-3%. This oil is still better than the saturated fat from whole milk. Same for Dipotassium phosphate, is also not commonly added and when it is it's not as scary as he makes it sound, as it's the total amount of phosphorus in the diet that matters the most and cow's milk has a similar quantity. He failed to mention he negative effect on the kidneys is seen in people suffering from kidney disease, and this same population may also need to avoid cows milk because of the high protein content. I found the article he shows about the claims of oat milk spiking blood glucose similarly to soda but there isn't any study cited. From my research it seems that the glycemic load is 3 times higher on the soda. 224 grams of french fries has a bout 32 grams of fat, 240 ml of oatly milk with added oil has 9 grams of fat. Again these figures are taken straight from their a**. Trans fats: from Oatly themselves: "the oil we use actually has a trans fat content of less than 0.1g/100g, and we only use non-GMO, expeller pressed rapeseed oil." The "natural" milk he talks about has 0.1g of trans fat per 100g. So there's only 10% of oats and the rest is water but that somehow produces more emissions than cow's milk? The dairy industry spent 370 million dollars on campaigns just in the US whereas Oatly spent less than 100 million across multiple countries in the same timeframe Also forgot to mention that most of the trans fats consumed come from "natural" animal products, cow's milk is subsidized so it can be affordable, that it has cholesterol, and that it lowers testosterone and raises certain types of estrogens.
I nearly spit out my grass fed traditionally made low pasturised milk onto my steak when you said it was from Sweden. I live here. I thought oatly was American. Oatly is hated here in Sweden by most people except vegans. We consume tons of dairy so I guess oatly had to start exporting their product because we didn't want it here.
Nice, I didn’t know Sweden is big on diary products. Apparently there is big movement in Europe to decrease farms so I hope you will be able to continue produce quality products and not being forced to drink oat milk and bug burgers or whatever.
@@MelpomenaBovary in most of the country it is impossible to grow anything but potatoes and grass. But it is possible to have cattle farms and then we also have our indigenous Sami people living in the north providing us with reindeer meat.
I just looked at my carton of oat milk; it says 13% organic oats, some hemp seeds and a trace of salt.; the rest being water.There are some brands with rapeseed oil and sugar added, but not the chemicals. It very much depends whether you live in Europe or the US; obviously it is going to be worse over there You are correct in that there is a premium to be made by the companies
There is a very good chance that the amylase added to these milk imitations are a "technical enzyme". Technical enzymes have no labeling requirement in the EU. So if your oat-milk is sweet, it probably contains a lot of maltose that was not added and thus doesn't need to be labeled either. While the EU has better labeling laws than the US, there's still plenty of loopholes for the food industry to exploit.
There's a guy on RU-vid (Gaz Oakley) who makes plant based meals and he has a video about making your own plant based milks versus buying store bought. All his recipes are great & the milk recipes are fantastic without all the additives & preservatives.
@@rhondapotter6989 Let's be realistic: we wouldn't need these kind of videos, nor would we be in this situation if people wouldn't buy highly processed convenience foods and made their own from scratch instead. Making all these milk replacements is pretty easy, yet very few actually do it. We live in a day and age where people buy precooked rice and already chopped vegetables because it's convenient...
Are you saying the oatly drink in the UK is safe to drink? I dont think its very sweet. I dont know if it has this trans fat in it or not because it doesnt say it on the ingredients but then it wouldnt anyway. Oatly need to put out a statement clarifying it
@@uweschroederPeople just dont have the time unfortunately. We are too busy being slaves to the demands and laws of our governments and corporations trying to control every single thing we do in our lives. Not much free time left after all that whether you spend all that time resisting or complying
I just make my own and add maple syrup, filtered water and organic vanilla extract to it. My coffee doesn’t taste as good but my stomach and body feels better. Totally worth it to just make your own.
I drink black coffee already for few years. I thought it will be difficult to get used to it, but it wasn't. In few days I enjoy it like I used to enjoy coffee with milk and sugar. And prices of plant based milk like drinks are like:" you are an idiot paying $6 for something that costs less than 1ct to produce.
Yeah im not going to go back to drinking cows milk. This video was very disingenuous. Also it’s crazy easy to make your own oat milk, cheaper than cows milk or “oatly” by a mile.
@@user-zw8uc4rm1m I think that depends on a person's worldview. The way cows and calves are treated certainly aren't a ringing endorsement for it, if you care about that kind of thing.
Just make your oat milk by yourself. With every video I watch how the food industry is poison us, I decided to make everything by my self from organic and healthy foods.
@@Victoriaaaa11111- Yeah sure, I just can recommend to try it out. One of the best decisions you can make imo. I mean just the feeling that you know whats in your food makes a lot of difference to me. The food becomes you and your body. It is also the reason which energy you can put out, so you just want to give your body good stuff in order to feel good.
Context: this is just about the oatly brand. Just look at the ingredients on your alternative milks. Its on you to read labels. (Also some people are allergic to dairy or are lactose intolerant. It is in fact healthy and also required for them to find alternatives to dairy milks)
Excellent breakdown of this issue. People avoid fries because they're soaked in industrial oils and then drink the same amount in oat milk thinking they're making a healthy choice. What a horrible scam.
Except that this figure is completely false. 250g of oat milk contains 3-5g of oil, 250g of McDonald’s fries contains over 40g of oil. Sure, you can make really healthy fries by using almost no oil at all and air frying, but then this emotionally-charged comparison seems a bit misleading. Clearly they are trying to paint oat milk as “unhealthy” by comparing it to “unhealthy” fries.
Are you that gullible? 224 grams of french fries have about 32g of fat while 240ml of oatly with added oil has 9. The figures from this video are taken out of nowhere. Also the oil on the french fries will be much worse as it has been fried possibly multiple times and not all oat milks have added oil but all french fries do.
Fun fact: "rape" and "reap" essentially both mean "to take" and rapeseed has very large yields, thus it was named such as "the seed to harvest" - thus its traditionally very, very low price point.
@@michaelkores6860 Maybe, if it's pure and high quality rapeseed oil with no 'added volume' - and, spoiler, the cans or bottles you find in most stores with 1 liter for 2-3 bucks isn't. You get what you pay for.
@@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN Most certainly, but you can use that arguement for other oils as well, maybe rapeseed oil of inferior quality is more a thing in North America than it is in Europe?
Well If we are very strict , the meaning of "rape" is actually closer to "to rob/steal" since its derived from the Latin Word "rapere" But yeah, essentially the same
I drink oatmilk because the cows milk is for calfs. I don’t wan’t someone to put sperm in me with a plastic golve EVERY YEAR to make me have a baby to then straight away taking my newborn away from me and I Will scream for my baby for 3 days then just being numb from the helpnessless and give in to a Machine milking me since my breasts are absolut to explode from all the milk Im making for my calf that now is crying for me in a separate house in with no mothers just confused babies who are just feed sugarwater since the HUMANS shall have their milk, their mothers life and their life. They only excist because she shuld get milk in her breasts and the calf Will soon be killed if its a boy and if its a girl she will meet the same horrible painful life as her mother, year after year baby after baby heartbreak after heartbreak, lonely confused poor baby after lonely confused baby. No mother or father who have ever hold ther newborn baby and felt that love and Bond should never do that to another parent human or cow.
False, just read your labels. Lots of brands are honest and use minimal, cleaner ingredients in their products. They just don't taste as good to the average consumer.
I’m lactose intolerant , and I tried oat milk and it still messed up my stomach. Now I know why. All those ingredients they added. This is a good video. That’s why try and make my own from scratch
Try silk nextmilk. It tastes so close to milk for me. It doesn’t mess up my stomachs unless I drink too much of it. I’m sure regular milk will do the same. I randomly developed a dairy allergy so now I can’t have any without getting terrible dermatitis all over me :(
@@ohsocooll12342 ooh, I didn’t know… In my country in Europe there are around 4$ for a pound and I can make around 3 bottles from one pack, and Oatly it’s around 3$ for a liter which is insane 😵💫
A general principle is to be suspicious of fake foods trying to imitate something that they are not. To get soy or oats to taste like beef or milk, a lot of not so healthy stuff has to be added to do that food alchemy. Consumers need to be aware...and not blindly fall for the next slick marketing campaign just because it seems "cool".
Dairy milk is one of cruelest and most destructive things that you can buy. Its as natural to drink cows milk as it is to drink dogs milk. Think about it. It is also incredibly bad for your health. Try googling dairy is scary, or watch the best speech you will ever hear by Gary Yourofsky. An eye dropper of pus in every glass, connected to allergies various cancers and heart disease. I could never consume a product of sexual exploitation and baby murder, but wouldn't use it for any one of dozens of reasons! 🤮
Nipple juice from a genetically modified bovine species of mammal is more natural than some nuts or oats, water, and oil? Amazing. You must be a genius. Do you get all your information from influencers on RU-vid? You are advocating for being critical but you yourself are not being a critical consumer based on your comment.
@@leastrossner.englishut how do you know? Is it illegal to hide the sugar, the way Oatly does? Because there's no sugar in their ingredients either... edit: no sugar LISTED in their ingredient, even though it does have hidden sugar
I drank Oatly religiously, completely caught up with the packaging and taste that I started to recommend it to all my friends. So ashamed today that I supported this brand and trusted any big corporation at all. It's really scary how there's not enough regulations on advertising and shelf-space in stores. We're just pushed and pushed further down the artificial food line until we become absolutely destroyed by diet. The whole 'save the world' schtick these piece of S CEO's use is so insufferable. Despite this I trusted them. Ashamed is what I've become.
Just assume any food or beverage company saying its plant based and helps the environment that it’s actually terrible for both you and the environment.
I can't drink regular milk so I am grateful that there are so many alternative milks on the market. I usually make my own at home but if I am out and about I think it is great that I don't have to either forego getting milk in my drink or deal with having a stomach ache for the next few hours.
@@MrOrgeston Have fun replacing milk in any recipes with any other liquid. Cereal and water sounds great. Milk replacements work well in lieu of milk in coffee, pancakes, cereal, baking etc.
@@Pesudone Oat Milk is literally cereal and water. If you're baking, milk is just water, fat, and protein. Any other sources of those would work as well. No need to pay exorbitant prices for a box of fancy white water.
@@MrOrgeston You mentioned any kind of milk in your og comment, which I replied to with no intention of saying use oat milk here and there. I never use oat milk, but the other alternatives are perfect for people not wanting to use dairy milk or not being able to.
Not ALL oat milks are evil, you have to do your homework and read the ingredients, just like with any other food or beverage product. There are companies that make just oat milk, no additives, but you’ll pay a bit more for those. Or make it yourself at home.
This is what happens when lobby interest groups run our politicians! Some ethical regulations could go a long way but with politicians in bed with corporations we are all doomed!
I had a SEVERE allergic reaction due to a brand of oat milk called "Planet Oat". I am not a big oat milk drinker, in fact the only time I tried it was in a pre made coffee product and I surprisingly enjoyed the flavor. So I got some to try putting into my own coffee... Their packaging proudly proclaiming "nut free" with clear iconography and text. For context, I am HIGHLY allergic to tree nuts and peanuts. It MOST CERTAINLY NOT. As after an ER trip and calling them up. Turns out- They aren't even the main parent company. HP Hood is. And guess what tiny tiny little tucked away blurb they have on their website is? "While Planet Oat Oatmilk is nut-free, Planet Oat is made in a facility that is not nut-free." Then it's not goddamn nut free now is it? If you make it in a facility that can cross contaminate or god forbid makes the tree nut milks and products in the same machinery on the same lines... You might as well just be putting them directly in there. On top of that I'm fairly sure they still oh so proudly tout their NUT FREE packaging on their products. I lucked out because mine isn't that deathly and I am a grown man. What if a kid with the same allergy had this happen because their parents trusted that "Oh so re-assuring" NUT FREE on the packaging? While the truth of the product is HIDDEN IN A SMALL SERIES OF CLICK THROUGHS ON THEIR WEBSITE?! I swear they think they can get away with more because of the nice lovey dovey "home grown" hippie dippie company vibe they try to sell. Oh we're just a small wittle company! It's an ALTERNATIVE product we're HELPING people! Nuts to that, literally.
That is something that you need to sue for if you can, on behalf of the lives of others. My son has a tree nut allergy. That is absolutely terrifying. I'm glad you are ok. But companies need to be held accountable for nearly killing someone.
@@breanne2117 Oh I agree 100%, but... It's made to be a difficult process almost by design, It's a big life pausing rigamarole to get it started, a huge inconvenience to go through. And you are taking on a lot yourself even if you're starting a class action, you are basically buying into an on and off 1 to 4+ years of your life being constantly interrupted and having a permanent worry and extra priority to go through with it. And if you're not being shielded by a CLASS action and doing it as an individual? You are open to more legal battles and court costs and counter suing and basically being financially bullied entirely through legal channels. And your opponent's pockets are far deeper than yours. Especially if you already are living tightly or have a brutally unforgiving employer ("I have to take off for a court date." even if it's not for anything bad doesn't particularly go over well.) It's partially WHY they've gotten so bold... They know that most people? Simply can't or won't. And that they can bleed you dry to shut you up with the proces itself even if they know they have no counter case. Very few people actually have the time, the finances and energy and the ability to go through the hoops required to actually sue for these things.
I drink oat milk sometimes because I think it tastes good, but I have absolutely no delusions that it's good for me. I consider it a cheat treat, like pizza, fries, and cake.
Fair enough. I mean it is like drinking a coffe in Starbucks. We all know it is not a real coffee and more of a fast food drink. But there is nothing wrong to like it as long as you dont overdue it.
Seems the beef here is with ingredients, not oat milk. There are other brands that don't have those ingredients. It's up to you as a consumer to read the label and make an informed choice. At the end of the day, oat milk is just a non dairy beverage. How it's formulated varies from brand to brand.
Oats contain phytates, which are an antinutrient. The way to leach phytates from nuts & legumes (and I would imagine oats as well) is to steep them in water. By the way, you're supposed to DISCARD the water. Oats are also a super-carbohydrate -- great if you're into diabetes & all.
No brand of fake anything is better for you than the real deal. If you choose fake milk over real milk, you deserve everything that happens to you. Buyer beware!
@@thetruth45678 Its not a fake product you pretzel. Its a DIFFRENT product lol. For it to be fake, it means people making it and then putting in milk bottles and trying to sell it as real cows milk.
as the other peeps said real milk including goat milk are wonderful for you and your baby when pregnant and if you want to negate most of the negative effects of the rapeseed oil in the oat drink just take lots of vitamin E. Vitamin E is excellent for a baby's brain development in utero as well. Peace
What's the point? There's absolutely no nutrients in there and that will add absolutely no flavour to your coffee or what ever. Total waste of time. We've been drinking real milk, butter, meat, since our inception. Real milk benefits us massively. I understand if you have a lactose intolerance but if you think you are doing to save the planet drinking oat gruel you are silly. It's a crime that these oligarchs have convinced us to sacrifice our health over a bunch of bullshit lies about our climate smh
F a c t C h e c k: “Oat milk contains dipotassium phosphate” False. I’m holding a carton right now; it does not. At least no brand I’ve tried. “Oat milk contains canola oil” True. But, like.. so what? It has way less total fat than dairy milk. “One serving of oat milk has the same blood sugar effect as a can of coke” Citation fucking needed. I’m to believe that - merely due to the higher GI of maltose - that one serving of oat milk (containing 5g of sugar) has an equivalent blood sugar effect as an entire can of soda (containing 35g of sugar)? That sounds ludicrous, and there is no source to back this claim. “Gram for gram, oat milk contains the same amount of oil as french fries” Faaalse. One serving of oat milk is 250g, 3-5g of which are oil. That is equivalent, gram for gram, to 1.67 Large fries from McDonalds, which contains a whopping 40g of oil. Where are these “facts” coming from?? I’m less than 2min in, and I don’t feel like going any further,, so I’ll just ask: How much did the dairy industry sponsor you to make this? 😂
For real. I can't believe people are buying this. Oatley had 7g of sugar which is just shy of 2 tsp per serving. Is that more than I would use? Yes but to compare it to a coke which is about 50g of added sugar is just plain dishonest. 9g of fat is equivalent to the same amount of fat in whole milk, though milk has more protein to balance the fat. They are trying so hard to demonize oat milk which is silly. It may be healthier option for some who can't process the lactose or other proponents of milk due to intolerance or allergies.
@@Sheeeeerigirl Obviously it is better if you have an intolerance. But store bought Oat milk isn't automatically healthier than cows milk is the point. It depends on the individual and how they respond to the contents of each, how much you drink it, etc. I drink oat milk because I like the longer shelf life. I got tired of my milk going bad. So I don't drink milk more than maybe once or twice a week depending on if I have desserts in the house I want to pair with it. So no matter what, I am not going to have an issue because it's in moderation. Other foods will be the source of my issues.
@@K0sm1cKid I never implied it was healthier overall. I just don't like any type of company trying to demonize any product unless they are truly harmful. I think dairy is wonderful for some. It has the right ratios of carbs to protein to fats and is really satisfying. My point is that Oat milk may indeed be healthier for some people (with specific conditions) than dairy but it's not inherently healthier. I also don't believe Oatmilk is unhealthy either (which this video is pushing) It isn't as balanced as dairy is but it's decent enough and pairing it with more proteins helps balance it out. I've said in other comments that there are healthier versions other than Oatley and once it isn't a huge source of calories for someone-which sounds similar to the way you use it-any impact on health is really negligible. Most importantly though is that we learn to read labels and understand what is in a product verses what the marketing says.
Indeed, there are some rather extensive issues with the evidence and reasoning the video uses to support its narrative. IMO, the worst of it is how much it (and a lot of some other videos on this channel) hinge on chemophobia and a misrepresentation of chemistry. The video creator relies so much on fear of additives and chemicals, but additives and chemicals don't mean anything on their own. What matters is their actual chemical effect on the body. For instance, for all his talk about dipotassium phosphate, the evidence that it actually has health risks are rather poor. But what pisses me off the most is his thing on aldehydes. He calls aldehydes 'a toxin' which is an absolutely insane statement to make without extensive qualification of what he actually means by that. Aldehydes are an entire family of chemicals with numerous different effects, and many of them are both naturally occurring and perfectly safe. For instance, vanillin and cinnamaldehyde, which are the primary compounds responsible for the flavors and aromas of vanilla and cinnamon respectively, are both aldehydes. While I'm sure that consuming enough of either would probably have detrimental health effects, you'll rarely see anyone raising hell about the dangers of vanilla and cinnamon, and I certainly haven't seen the video creator doing that. There are some aldehydes which are in fact toxic, formaldehyde being probably the most famous, but saying that aldehydes are 'a toxin' is like saying liquids are a toxin. Without specifying which liquids are being talked about, it's a completely meaningless statement. And that's even without his assertion that the oils having been heated means that they are significantly oxidized. For reference, I actually vastly prefer cows milk to plant-based milk substitutes, so it's not like I have any sort of inherent bias in favor of plant milks here, and if anything it'd be the opposite.
I have to confess, I switched to oat "milk" in my coffee to avoid lactose. Then I read the ingredients you mentioned and was quite surprised that it contained the oils I also didn't want. took less than a few weeks to get used to black coffee. :D :D And well, I just cook my morning oatmeal in water as usual.
@@TJSchoolStuffokay Wall-Street larper, so many of you are just straight up propagandists People, don't listen to these accounts, corporations flood videos like this with their little lackeys to confuse people and make them doubt the truth.
I personally find it very easy to find oat milk in the grocery store with minimal ingredients (water, oats, oil, salt, that's it) and in the end the oil contents are usually comparable with cow milk. Usually the super processed ones are more expensive so that's another reason not to buy them. Maybe that's just because of where I live? Who knows.
Could you explain “the oil contacts are usually comparable with cow milk”? I’ve never bought milk with oil unless I’m confused and you meant something else
@@JoshuaTimothyHoward Same with the proteins. There is a reason, why the human body can digest animal proteins easier - it's because we're animals too.
I absolutely agree. Oatly is one of the better ones and there are other organic ones that have the same ingredients. You are probably also European and we aren't afraid of oil and salt now and then. But there are a lot of paranoid Americans in the comments thinking everything processed is bad and thinking oils or salt are bad. Can't blame them becuse THEIR processed food is really bad and now they are thinking heavily regulated European products such as Oatly are the same. They are being paranoid.
Corporations are the only teets that provide the slavish consumer sustenance. Plant-Based demographic control measures are the only way we will save the planet and sustain the status quo.
@@delphicdescant I doubt it. There's already a niche and taboo market for human milk, but mostly fitness weirdos seem interested. There's a somewhat bigger market for newborns and infants. The quality varies due to lack of regulation. Hospitals do give it away, with better regulation, but it's pasteurized and only for babies. Some other pro-lactation groups give it away, sell it, pasteurize it, or let it be natural through trade (mom to mom). Baby formula is not as ideal as breast milk, but they are adding more and more HMO's that are closing the gap. It will never be 100% similar, but it's not farfetched for it to someday be 90% similar to breast milk. Baby formula is a good industry to get into especially if you're a good science nerd or want to help mothers.
I watched a video of this marshmallow company making vegan marshmallows out of Oat milk and they were able to boil it down into a syrup and whip it up. Literally looked like condensed milk.
Right, I think it tastes disgusting no matter how many additives or how much sugar it has. It tastes like a cardboard box and I LOVE oatmeal. It was a big disappointment, I'll stick to my unsweetened almond milk thank you very much.
Its easy to spot fraud really! Anything that invokes environment protection (especially by reducing carbon footprint) to sell its product should be viewed with greatest suspicion.
this point makes zero sense. humans produce products on a very large scale that has impacts on the environment. if a company is trying to minimize that impact how could you possibly have an issue with that
@@mikcasso288 they aren't trying to minimize it to help the environment they are doing it so they can guilt people into buying it instead of less good for the environment stuff
@@mikcasso288 Often companies focus on things like carbon neutral. However, they usually use metrics that only track their end of things and not the whole process. For example, electric cars are carbon neutral when it comes to the actual driving but the carbon emitted during the manufacturing of the car and the mining for the resources, particularly the battery, are not looked at. So you actually end up with a car that creates more carbon emissions that a gas car because of the material needed to make the extra parts of the car. When you try to boil down effects to intent, it doesn't work out well. The intentions for windmills is to reduce electricity created from fossil fuels, however the effects of windmills can range from killing large birds of prey to created a large demand for fossil fuels because the wind isn't consistent enough to generated the needed electricity in a system and the wasted materials of the windmill. This is also ignoring the fact that climate change is a very controversial topic that has been very politicized where people are willingly to use it as a way to push policies. And also ignores that scientists are very unsure of the causes and long term future of climate change.
Honestly I love making my own oat milk sweeted with a bit of honey and using the oat pulp to make nice baked energy bars for my hiking, never bought it from the store tho
Ive never bought into corporate oat milk because it's way too pricey to standard milk but this video open my eyes to how dangerous the product actually is to our health. This is why homemade almond milk and especially soy milk are still the better milk alternatives because homemade ones still taste good unsweetened unlike the highly chemically processed oat milk with maltose and canola oil in it.
I make my own hemp seed milk, 1/4 to 1/2 cup of hemp hearts, 4 cups water, blend and strain. Honey or a pitted date and some vanilla can be added to sweeten if necessary. It would even have Omega 3 in it. :)
The more effort the company puts into trying to convince you how good is the food for the "enviroment" (and similar abstract stuff) and how much "better" it is than the other product X, the more wary people should be. Same was for margarine. Same was for impossible burgers and the same thing is oatly.
Have you turned on your tv? From your logic alone we should all adopt a vegan diet. Dairy and meat push their agenda more than any other food category.
@@romondoalexander8851 No. my TV never tell me those. Maybe you've stayed too long in your echo chamber. What my TV tells me is Nuclear Reactor is diritier than Coal Electricity gen.
The only non-dairy milk I like is oat milk. And the stuff I buy - hard to find - is just oats and water. To me, it tastes good, and I can't drink most tree nut milks for gut reasons.
If you like the pure version of just oats and water, you can literally make the stuff at home in a blender for pennies. Oats are cheap, blend it, strain it, maybe at a touch of salt, done. You can make gallons of the stuff for like $1
@@malcolm_in_the_middle If you're just blending oats with water and not doing the fully processed version that these companies try to sell you, oats are relatively healthy without all the added crap.
Yeah I've got no idea where he's coming from when he says oats and water tastes like garbage. It's delicious. You can make it yourself and Elmhurst sells exactly that.
Q: What do big corporations do? A: Pay RU-vidrs to make attack videos on their competitors. The dairy industry have a long and glorious history of using marketing and government influence to promote their product
As a person who was diagnosed with milk allergy since 9, I’ve tried pretty much every milk alternatives plant based on the shelves available. I realized they cost a fortune (used to pay about $50/ month) and filled with extra additives like mentioned in the videos. Can you believe some still taste bad even after all those extras 😑 Since then I began to make my own plant based milk, be it oat, almond, cashews and etc.. It saves me tons, economic and health wise. I keep drinking my iced americano with honey, no any kind of milk needed tho.
@@PrettyLesbian Bio. The animals eat only grass food, do not get injected with hormones and they generally follow a specific style of growing up and living resulting in a higher quality product. I suppose the requirements are different around the world but it's always the highest quality.
@@godnyx117 if someone has cow milk allergy that wouldn't make a difference. Most people are lactose intolerant at best, but actual allergy to milk is a different thing. I can't drink cow milk myself because I have digestion issues, it makes me really sick.
Celebrities and influencers also are one of the main players contributing to the markets asserting their affluence onto their fans and followers by consuming the 'oats milk' as associated with their beauty secrets and radiant skin.
Indeed. People are not bees or ants, therefore don't need to pretend like they're stuck in a hive mind mentality 😅😜 Also, many celebrities and large influencers are hypocrites. They tell people that they're vegan, and their followers should be too, but then they treat veganism as a diet, then go back to munching on corpses and chugging down the lactations of raped mother cows 🤮 But they blame the plant based foods or veganism for their health deteriorating, and it's no surprise, when all they do is consume vegan junk foods and the Oat milk featured in the beginning of this video, with all its processed, unhealthy crap added. Vegan for the philosophy and ethics, lush whole plant foods for health. Can't go wrong. People are worth more than how these wretched industries, like animal farming, cigarettes, and pharmaceutical companies see them 👍
@@HyperionGamingTOPKEK Yes, here on RU-vid. They ALL say I'm not sponsored. They aren't paying me. Yes you are and yes you are being paid. ALL LIARS. WAKE UP!!!
That's the WHOLE reason social media exists today. Maybe not 20 years ago, but the "free" Internet is long since dead, reduced to yet another corpo tool.
I wanted to compare these stats with the oat milk that I usually see at my grocery store, "Earth's own". I don't ever recall buying an oatly product, so I just wanted to check for a brand more relevant to me. (NOTE: This devolved real quick. More of a video analysis now. Key points at the bottom) I looked at 4 different products under them, and below are the differences from the video (Original, Vanilla, Zero Sugar, Naked) 1:30 - Dipotassium Phosphate: Only the zero sugar product includes this in their ingredients. 1:40 - Seed oil: Not quite sure how this is bad for you. In any case, sunflower oil is used instead in all products except for the 4 ingredient one 1:45 - Maltose: I assume the amount is similar to oatly(?), however I wouldn't know. 1:55 - Oil Content: I don't think the amount of oil they use is published online, however based on the 5g of fat(1.5 for naked), it seems to be about the same. The comparison of french fries is a bit odd though. They aren't inheriently unhealthy because they have oil; I'd the carbs in it is a major factor. For example, 4oz of sautee'd brussel sprouts have about the same amount of oil. In terms of cost(spread out over the first portion of the video), I agree that they're overpriced based on cost of ingredients. No denying that in any sense. Cooperations will always want to earn more money. But lets say that the retail price of oat milk does drop, to a point of just $1 per litre. At this point, it'll be vastly cheaper to buy than cow's milk. To a normal consumer, I would think many would start to shift to oat milk just because of the price difference, making it even harder on the dairy industry. This isn't even mentioning the fact that the US Gov(from which many viewers are presumably watching from) HEAVILY subsidizes the dairy industry, about 22.2 BILLION USD in 2015, compared to no subsidies for oat milk. Honestly, I'm unsure what the conclusion for the above paragraphs are. I personally see that the dairy industry is dying in US and Can based on the subsidies, and that sooner or later, alternatives would push them out of the market. Feel free to make your own tho. 6:14 - Maltrose Part 2: As priorly stated, I got no idea how much any of these products effect blood sugar level. Can't really comment on that. 8:30 - Fat: ??? Trans fats appear in nature as well, namely meat and dairy. Aside from that, they are 100% bad for you. prime of the prime is that omega fats are great, saturated fats not so much, and trans fats are the worst. But calling out oil seed oils as having trans fats is a bit disingenuous. For instance, as compared with other common oils: Canola - 1.9% - 3.6% trans fat Olive - 0.5% trans fat Sunflower - 1.1% trans fat Soybean - 0.4% - 2.1% trans fat Butter - ~4% trans fat(first google result; might be inaccurate) Canola can definitely contain more, but most oils do contain at least some. What I think should've been commented on more is the saturated fat amount in addition to the trans fat. The oxidization of oil is a geniune concern, however, I doubt that the temperature gets high enough to warrant concern. Unless they pan fry with the oil beforehand, it's probably fine. As for dipotassium phosphate, yea it seems accurate. 11:11 - Marketing: Never seen oatly marketing. Or any oat ads before. Well, marketing's marketing. May as well call out red bull next eh? I can't actually care less how a cooperation markets something. An ad's an ad, and all ads are annoying. 14:14 - Legal battle: Saturated fat *is* bad for you? Or well, not 100% healthy at least. Other than that, big W for the dairy farmers. And the outcome makes sense. But again, in terms of marketing, all press is good press. 17:40: Aside from the blackstone incident(which I never heard of or was involved in; again, don't drink Oatly), I'm unsure of the point being made. 73% less emissions may be inaccurate, but the generally accepted "oat milk produces 1/3 of the emissions that milk generates" is still a substantial amount? I doubt having pasting on "66% less emissions" would change much... Cows and livestock releases about 5% - 6% of total emissions(energy is the vast majority at ~73%). Not much. However, it isn't inherently bad to look into decreasing that amount. 20:28 - Other Alternatives: I think most of the stuff I commented on covers this portion. But if I had to point something out: Why is sea salt highlighted? Are added vitamins bad(imo kinda, but that's a different topic that involves cereal)? The fact that almond milk being 2% almonds seems accurate though. IMO, it's not a big deal. If the recipe calls for that, so be it Disclaimers: I(Canadian) personally think oat milk is good, and at least better than cows milk in the long run(after all, its why i wrote a biased comment for it). I just saw some claims in the video that I found odd, and some misleading. This was before I found out the video was mostly calling out oatly(never had oatly). I'm a university student that isn't anywhere near studying food, but mostly just likes food. Takeaways: Oat milk has less emissions than Cows milk(~66% less), however cows only make up at the very most ~6% of emissions Oat milk may have additives(dipotassium phosphate) that have adverse effects in large amounts Oat milk is cheaper to produce than cows milk, but costs more on shelves Seed oil isn't inherently bad, however there are better alternatives to canola. Oat milk most likely effects blood sugar content more than cows milk The jabs at trans fat and lack of jabs at saturated fat seems very misleading Oil oxidation can create cancer related chemicals, however is portrayed a bit misleading(only a real cause for concern if you fry the oil first, of which oat milk companies probably don't do) The amount of dairy subsidies is ridiculous Oatly marketing is something I can't possible care less for. I like researching Sources: earthsown.com/products/oat/ - oat milk that I usually buy, and references I used for their products www.wellplated.com/sauteed-brussels-sprouts/#wprm-recipe-container-41938 - sauteed brussel sprouts nutrition www.greyclark.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/US-Subsidies-Post-2014-Farm-Bill-FEB-2018.pdf - Dairy subsidies milkpick.com/why-is-oat-milk-expensive/#:~:text=high%20production%20fees.-,No%20Government%20Subsidies,when%20they%20have%20young%20children. - no subsidies for alternatives www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-the-expert-concerns-about-canola-oil/ - trans fat in oils reeis.usda.gov/web/crisprojectpages/0188938-iron-antioxidants-and-frying-oil-stability.html - oil oxidization
Hey I liked your comment. I'll copy paste mine with the conclusions I reached First off, not all plant milks have added oil but when it does it's a very small amount usually 2-3%. This oil is still better than the saturated fat from whole milk. Same for Dipotassium phosphate, is also not commonly added and when it is it's not as scary as he makes it sound, as it's the total amount of phosphorus in the diet that matters the most and cow's milk has a similar quantity. He failed to mention he negative effect on the kidneys is seen in people suffering from kidney disease, and this same population may also need to avoid cows milk because of the high protein content. I found the article he shows about the claims of oat milk spiking blood glucose similarly to soda but there isn't any study cited. From my research it seems that the glycemic load is 3 times higher on the soda. 224 grams of french fries has a bout 32 grams of fat, 240 ml of oatly milk with added oil has 9 grams of fat. Again these figures are taken straight from their a**. Trans fats: from Oatly themselves: "the oil we use actually has a trans fat content of less than 0.1g/100g, and we only use non-GMO, expeller pressed rapeseed oil." The "natural" milk he talks about has 0.1g of trans fat per 100g. So there's only 10% of oats and the rest is water but that somehow produces more emissions than cow's milk? The dairy industry spent 370 million dollars on campaigns just in the US whereas Oatly spent less than 100 million across multiple countries in the same timeframe Also forgot to mention that most of the trans fats consumed come from "natural" animal products, cow's milk is subsidized so it can be affordable, that it has cholesterol, and that it lowers testosterone and raises certain types of estrogens.
It depends on the brand - I checked my oat milk creamer and my normal oat milk, and none of these ingredients were present except sunflower oil. I buy the kirkland brand of oat milk and it has very little sugar. It's definitely overpriced, though.
I sniffed it out in the first two minutes. The overdramatic voice made me go hmmmm, the information seemed suspect, then I went to the channel as a whole and saw that it's just right-wing conspiracy bs
Here in Europe there is also regular oatmilk that you can buy. It is actually really environmentally friendly and tastes a little bit 'dusty' if you can call it that. Definitely not as bad as it sounds through your video. But i didnt know that oat ly were doing so poorly with their ingredients.
Yeah exactly, I live in germany and we have different companies/brands producing oatmilk and while it has a notable amount of sugar it barely has fat, tastes quite good and doesn't upset my stomach. I usually prefer soy and I like it a bit more but alas my grocery store doesn't have it or at least not all the time
@@metamonogatari3139 I live in Germany as well. After I saw that video I immediately checked my carton of oat milk (not oatly, but a cheaper supermarket brand) and sunflower oil was the third ingriedient on the list, after water and oats. I will definitely rethink my milk choices after this. I am glad I never fully stepped away from dairy milk, as I use oat milk only for porridge or smoothies, because I thought it was "healthier".
Rule of thumb with any food is: Is it a whole food or manufactured? For example, the Impossible Burger. If it's manufactured, it's always crap, and said manufacturing companies only care about their bottom line.
@@sticy5399 The point is not if food is "innocent" (however you define it), we are talking about what foods are good or better for your health. Vegan substitutes for real food are more often than not, TERRIBLE for you.
@@ElViejoYElViaje Sometimes they are sure. But who the hell said you had to get oatly, you don't need milk or a milk replacement. Fruit juices are also as bad for you as coke, btw. You also don't have to eat vegan meat, you can just eat a normal vegan thing. These replacements have their place as things you eat once in a while. If you eat meat every day, thats not healthy either. Especially cured and processed meats. I'd bet that a hot dog is 10times less healthy than impossible meat.
Oat milk is the bomb as my family member has a literally deadly allergy to real milk and dairy. And this oat milk he actually likes and it works as substitute for milk in everything. Thank goodness for oat milk.
Thank you for creating this content. I don’t think that dairy milk is a great option, but I will take whole milk over this high glycemic mess. I like to think I’m an educated consumer, but this really got me together. I had no idea!
I'll admit, oat milk is really good in coffee. I may or may not have a Starbucks oat milk shaken espresso problem. But holy cannoli the business behind this replacement stuff is crazy.
@@maboo736 I also think it taste horrible in coffee haha. The taste of oat just didnt well with good coffee but probably for bad quality coffee, it cover the poorly roasted taste.
It's not bad in coffee that is if you use the right amount. Some people put too much as they judge it by the color of the coffee like milk. Of course it tends to go better with stronger coffee as it really dilutes the taste so stronger coffee you still get coffee otherwise you get a water down taste.
I dont know how to thank you for the eye opening knowledge you've given to us. I literally thought that oat milk was a godsend because it tastes so good yet contains so few calories and sugar. My father has cholesterol and kidney problem, and he has been drinking 1 carton of oatmilk everyday. I am extremely health conscious yet these greedy companies manage to trick us customers by calling maltose 'naturally occuring sugar', saying canola oil is healthy, and avoiding to use the word concentrate on their packages. Gosh i feel so bad that i have been supporting these companies for years.
Everyone has been taken in by this kind of scam at some point! They put huge amounts of effort into deceiving you and they are very very good at what they do, so you shouldn't feel bad that they succeeded in doing that. If you want to feel bad about something, you could feel bad about the fact that this level of deception happens all of the time and not just with supermarket products but with all kinds of things and that a huge number of people will go along with it, without ever challenging it or objecting, in exchange for a paycheck... or that there are authorities that exist solely to protect the population from such things and yet they will almost always do nothing until they have been pushed into a corner and have no choice and even then they'll do the bare minimum. If you can feel bad and direct that emotion towards those who are actually responsible then that would be a really good thing! Best wishes.
@@cefoye truth remains that animal proteins and fats are superior to refined seed oils and plant based proteins. Animal products have all 9 essential aminos whereas plant protein from a singular source is generally incomplete. truth also remains that plant based alternatives are artificial by nature and animal products are more 'natural'
Love this channel! Our awareness on food as a nation is terrible. Companies are only giving us what we want while concentrating on the bottom dollar which inevitably creates garbage food. Keep these videos coming!
Do you actually check the sources of who you watch?? This man has zero.👌 Oatley has not had a year of net profit since 2019. Its not the free money glitch by pulling a fast one on customers that this scam artist portrays it as. Try doing some research yourself. Critical thinking is dead! 🤯
i think the problem is that this channel will criticize oatly in one breath and uncritically parrot dairy industry propaganda in the next as though they both aren't part of the same capitalistic food system
@@JeffreyMorse775 exactly! Everyone wants to point fingers at one group because they like the gander that aligns with their views but it blinds them to the fact that both groups are doing the very same thing. The second large amounts of money is involved is will all go to crap and channels like this only perpetuate that. At least they do a good job explaining the details 🤷🏼♂️
As intriguing as these videos are, with the ultra energetic and hyper articulate narration, it'd be cool to see a solution for consumers included in these. Not everyone can drink regular cow mucus. Due to dietary restrictions.
@@GohakuX You can go on with just water or removing milk. Oat milk is nowhere real milk anyway, more like a standalone (that i dont like) but still a product. Not a replacement.
This is literally idiotic. Oat milk does not have more sugar than coke. At least here in Germany, most oat milk has around 5g pro 100ml, some companies offer oat milk with a bit less, some with more. "Normal" milk has 4.8g per 100ml. And most companies don't add sugar. The sugar is produced naturally by the process of fermentation which is used to produce oat milk, which transform the starch of the oat into sugar.
I love the emphasis on the word "r*pe" in r*peseed when you are literally pedaling propaganda for an industry that is entirely sustained by factory scale r*pe.
Eh, my sister is deathly allergic to milk and my partner is allergic to nuts, and this has opened up a whole world of options for them. It's definitely not a health food, but life is about more than health food, and the excitement of a special dessert they can both eat is worth it to me.
@Some Mohamed Bro you are Oat phobic, there is an Oat milk my mother buys with only three ingredients Water, 11,5% Bio Oats and 0,1% of sunflower oil. That means based on scientific evidence that you could drink half a liter of it every day without any consequences.
The oatmilk I get is oats and water pretty much. Less sugar than cow’s milk as well and cheaper than Oatly. Just avoid the stuff you don’t want like with anything else🤷🏽♂️ Plus most, if not all, of those additional ingredients are less than 2%.
Real milk has so many benefits. You may as well just not use that fake milk, it gives you no nutrients at all. Real milk, butter, meat, we've been eating it since our inception and it's great for us. Unless you are lactose intolerant I see no reason to use fake 'milk'. We can improve our farming and animal welfare. It's not black and white like leftists want us to believe. It's not farming or planet death. This is a corporate lie to make people feel guilty for existing. They want us all suicidal and guilty thinking we are causing the planet to die when in reality it's their shitty greedy system. There's a better way but instead were sold lies about science and global warming to sell these products and excuse their weather modification tools. These western governments are literally cloud seeding and messing with the weather, it's documented by MSM, they want us to blame ourselves when it's THEM who are fucking things up
It's all about the quality of the ingredients. It's not oat milk being a scam, it's the quality. You can literally make homemade oat milk by adding organic oats, water, dates, cinnamon into a blender lol You have to be clear about what you mean by "oat milk is a scam". No companies like Oatly are unhealthy, but that doesn't mean oat milk itself is a scam.
@@panzerbanz7296 - by looking like it. Like how strawberries aren't berries, or how maple syrup isn't made from maple sap (unless you deliberately go to the farmers market for real syrup)
@@diannt9583 What kind of dates have you tried? I love dates and everyone who I've introduced to dates loves them as well, not sure what you're eating haha
Hot take: I ALMOST like what this channel is trying to do. I do wish you were providing more of a "recommendation" on what the most ethical, least toxic alternatives are to things you call "bad" for us. Like dairy/dairy alternatives are going to be a mainstay in our diets, so what does that mean as far as avoiding the "bad" ones. I really could use guidance that is well researched on what will 1) not damage the environment, 2) not give me cancer, and 3) doesn't cost and arm and a leg for a regular diet. THAT'S what these videos should be at least trying to answer. I get what you're suggesting to "avoid," but I want to know what is actually decent to "have."
would second this. also, the oat milk I but is regularly the same price or cheaper than the milk right next to it. They really focused on Oat-Ly, which is *one* brand of oat milk lol. I'd literally never heard of it until this video. Environmentally speaking, growing oats is still better than growing cows or almonds (almonds take an insane amount of water to grow, so almond milk isnt great on that account). I do agree that saying "thing bad" doesnt help if an alternative isnt proposed. Even showing the words "Carton of Chemicals" is misleading. Everything is chemicals. Everything. A carton of regular, standard milk is a carton of chemicals. Cows arent bad because methane. Cows are bad because of the amount of water they take to make grass they eat. A lot of the end of this vide has a lot of "you" statements as though this one specific Oat Milk company is like the face of all alternative milks.
@@julianapokrovska9591 that must be hard, being so much good foods are from diary. My brother takes a supplement when he uses dairy. It's disgusting how these milk alternatives use dirty tactics to misinform consumers that cow milk is bad for us, the land, the world! And that their product is superior. Lies and always profit over people. The push to get us away from REAL foods and buy into the lies is the problem.
In the context of the video the alternative is so obvious that it is left unsaid. Milk the healthier and cheaper choice (long as you ain't lactose intolerant). As oatly was slandering milk and marketing it to the general public and stuff. Seeing that the fine for slander Oatly got was 100k made me laugh. That is nothing. No wonder why it had no effect on em.
I wish these take-down videos would compare fake milk with other fake milks. Fake milk is healthier than real milk for people who cant digest real milk 💀
Maltose is not 'sickeningly sweet'' - its literally just two glucose molecules bonded together. It rises your blood sugar level more than regular sugar coz regular sugar is only one molecule glucose and one molecule fructose. Fructose is the sweeter one and the one that doesn't show on the blood sugar levels monitor. It goes directly into your liver tho. ( High fructose corn syrup is high in fructose and thats why they use it - its sweeter than regular sugar.)
@@raaid22 I'm glad to see some other people came away with the same impression as me. 😅 watching something like this just makes me feel like I'm being intentionally manipulated and should definitely be skeptical of what I'm hearing
I've seen these in supermarket shelves a few times, but I always gave them a hard pass because they're so prohibitively expensive. Good to know I dodged a bullet, although to be fair, I doubt any food that has undergone any degree of processing is particularly healthy.
This video is full of half-truths and hyped-up or misrepresented facts. Be careful, they're making totally normal stuff sound dangerous, and not honestly representing the product. For instance, they say that 'sugars created during manufacturing don't need to be in the ingredients' which is true, but the total sugar content DOES need to be in the nutritional information. Same for the trans fats thing, they conflate an issue that exists elsewhere in the food supply with this product.
Guys, keep doing what you're doing, this channel is going to be huge. your form of delivery is very engaging and you will never want for content. that's how evil the food supply is.
I honestly hope this channel doesn't get huge. This video has HUGE problems and people seem to believe it without giving it a second thought. He basically said "all oat milks are bad or taste bad" and this is soooo far away from the truth. If it was a video about Oatly in America.. totally fine. But they are at best malinformed, at worst intentionally misleading.
First off, not all plant milks have added oil but when it does it's a very small amount usually 2-3%. This oil is still better than the saturated fat from whole milk. Same for Dipotassium phosphate, is also not commonly added and when it is it's not as scary as he makes it sound, as it's the total amount of phosphorus in the diet that matters the most and cow's milk has a similar quantity. He failed to mention he negative effect on the kidneys is seen in people suffering from kidney disease, and this same population may also need to avoid cows milk because of the high protein content. I found the article he shows about the claims of oat milk spiking blood glucose similarly to soda but there isn't any study cited. From my research it seems that the glycemic load is 3 times higher on the soda. 224 grams of french fries has a bout 32 grams of fat, 240 ml of oatly milk with added oil has 9 grams of fat. Again these figures are taken straight from their a**. Trans fats: from Oatly themselves: "the oil we use actually has a trans fat content of less than 0.1g/100g, and we only use non-GMO, expeller pressed rapeseed oil." The "natural" milk he talks about has 0.1g of trans fat per 100g. So there's only 10% of oats and the rest is water but that somehow produces more emissions than cow's milk? The dairy industry spent 370 million dollars on campaigns just in the US whereas Oatly spent less than 100 million across multiple countries in the same timeframe Also forgot to mention that most of the trans fats consumed come from "natural" animal products, cow's milk is subsidized so it can be affordable, that it has cholesterol, and that it lowers testosterone and raises certain types of estrogens.
I saw the video and have to say that in my country oat milk is literally water and oats, so check the ingredients if you aren't consuming the products cited here in the US.
Yeah i just made a comment how it is water oats and salt here… i mean america is basically asking for it now. Oatly just delivers.. nobody would buy it there if it only had 3 ingredients hahahah maybe the fda would not aprove that either 🤣🤣
yeah, they have to here. even with animal products their booking goes so far that if we buy a meat product we can see which fucking farm the animal grew up on. sucks to live in a country like yours lol@@mattolson7037
Oat-Ly is all over Europe. Amsterdam, Berlin, the south of France, Glasgow. It's everywhere not just the US. Did you notice that it's actually produced in Europe and that nearly all of the western world's rapeseed oil is cultivated in Europe. Europe is NOT so healthy.
Nothing wrong with oat milk as long as you make your own. I'm allergic to dairy so I make my own oat milk for baking, and on occasion, organic no sugar added cereal.
Can people just not want cow's milk??? Seems dairy consumers push their way of living more and more aggressive than non-dairy. The non-dairy consumers just want another option
The problem with living in a 'First World Country' is that most of us never have enough time to educate ourselves. Even if we do 'educate ourselves' we still need the time/skills to make these products ourselves. There's never enough time.
@@Starry_Night_Sky7455 LOL Of course, don't buy ANYTHING (including milk) from unscrupulous dealers, obviously! No! Go to your local crofter, and develop a relationship. Crofters treat their animals with love and respect, and grass fed cattle's milk is one of the glories of our planet. Plus it also makes amazing butter, cream, ice-cream and cheese! What's not to love? Enjoy!
Every product that is processed has additives. It's hard to go around that, so for me the best way to stay healthy is to consume only natural wholefood product and try to avoid any type of processsed food. Foods that are marketed to the consumer are already a red flag for me. Foods that are healthy don't need advertising. And it's always a good idea to look at the label if you can't avoid buying something that is processed. Good healthy food only has none to a couple of ingredients you can count on one hand.
Wow, usually I am pretty savvy about what I choose to eat, but this totally slipped under the radar for me! It is safe to say I won't be touching the stuff now.
I don’t like Oatly for their edgy over the top marketing and pricing, but there are plenty of much more reasonably priced oat milks that also contain less additives.
Just checked the ingredients in' Silk next milk' and didn't find anything offensive. It comes in whole and 2 percent fat content. What about rice, almond, and soy milks? Are they as offensive or are you just targeting Oatly? Those who are lactose intolerant need an alternative. You can make your own almond milk without chemicals though it is pricey.
The environmental footprint comparison from Jayne Buxton only says that the footprint of dairy milk is less than a third of that of oat milk WHEN the metric used is CO2 per micronutrient content
Or Is this just more propaganda? Real milk is heavily subsidized so you don’t see the real prices. Oatly profit margins is actually -54%! Oat milk is similar nutritionally then cow milk. Blackstone is moving away from fossil fuel so a small investment in oat milk make sens.
When i stopped drinking cows milk and stopped eating yogurt, cream and ice cream my cystic acne went away. Whenever I consume those things again it comes back. I can still eat cheese and butter however without breaking out.
Maybe try coconut milk, cream and yogurt. I’ve seen these products in the super markets. Coconut seems like a better alternative to other nut/grain milks. Although the coconut flavor might be a bit intrusive, and I can see why people wouldn’t want it.
That’s your body telling you that it doesn’t need or want animal products. Listen to it. You can also get dairy free cheese and butter. Dairy causes acne for many people.
I hate oatly, just to be clear. But there is so so much wrong with your video. Let' begin. In germany you pay around 2.5 € for 1 litre of oatly. That's roughly two dollars. If you buy offbrand oat milks you can get away with 0.9€ per litre. So the pricing is just an inherent feature of american capitalism. By the way cows milk here is aroound 1.3 € per litre. Also, there is absolutly nothing wrong with dipotassium phosphate. Using complex words for everyday ingridients without clarifying what your exact issue is, is just cheap fear mongering. That process to make oatmilk taste like something is just good old fermentation. Known to mankind for ages. You even point out that that is what happens in our mouth. So guess what happens when you eat oats. Also, the glycimic index in itself says nothing. What you are looking for is insulin response. Did you know that glucose has a GI of 100. Wonder why you didn't point that out. An there is so much more... I wish you would have pointed out the real issues that make oatly a company to be avoided, but instead you appeald to ignorance and emotion and cheaply arrangend information fragments without context.
Yeah, I’m lactose intolerant so I really thought I was doing something 🥴 now idk lol...but I will say since I’ve been pregnant I notice when I drink oat milk it affects me negatively, now I’m giving Planet Oat the side eye.
I heard it's good to bath in it. For psoriasis, acne, poison ivy, mosquito bites, burns, etc. Oat milk and Oats in general. I'm not sure if they still sell it, can't remember the name, but it was a oat bath that had essential oils in it with key minerals. My Mom used to get for me when I was younger because I have really bad genetic acne. I had acne at the age of 7 and still do at 41. But I remember it working really good. I'm probably going to go on Amazon right now and look for an oat bath product right now. 😂
Maybe take a look at both products next to each others. Normal milk also has sugar and saturated fats in it. Just let the people drink what they want. Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy. The diary association spent tons of money keeping their image clean. Just like cigarette companys did...
Yeah nobody should get away with deceiving people. Like saying a natural grain is a scam in a youtube video title to then switch the topic to a company's shenaniganz
@@mikairu2944 not sure i can understand your take. The scam is they say it’s healthy all natural, and its not. Oat Milk is just one of many many food products that do similarly shady practices.
@@mikairu2944 oh also the price, which is big aspect of the claim its a “scam”. Id agree calling it that is maybe not good idea. Like the video points out though they charge way more than they should, it cost more thank milk but the ingredients and process to make it much cheaper to produce than milk.
That is because all of the useless class of consumers will be extirpated from existence soon, due to these types of tactics which is leading us to a beautiful and glorious Fourth-Industrial Future. A true "viable system model".
I've seen people make homemade oatmilk that tastes decent. Of course, you have to add things like vanilla, maple syrup, oils like coconut oil or sesame seed oil, some add spices, or mix oats with nuts (like cashews or almonds), but yeah, if you experiment at home you can make it taste not gross. The problem is that most homemade plant based "milks" can't last long, and usually have to be consumed within days of making, and since you have to make small batches, you have to keep making it over and over again every few days. Hence most people opt for the commercial, more convenient version. Oatmilk itself is not an issue, but the commercially made oatmilk is. (Like pretty much anything else commercial lol)
