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@lancechapman3070
@lancechapman3070 2 года назад
Peter, your obvious compassion for humanity is both inspiring and heartbreaking. I fear the suffering will be even worse than we can consider. Regina, thank you for bringing these two clarion voices together!
@dion8962
@dion8962 2 года назад
We have 2 options going forward.. hard and horrifying, we are currently on the path to horrifying.
@dianewallace6064
@dianewallace6064 2 года назад
Thank you as always. What a enlightening explanation of a complicated topic.
@lessonsfromvillagelife
@lessonsfromvillagelife 2 года назад
We are witnessing extremely high levels of heat at south-eastern Pakistan, the area called the Great Thar Desert which borders with India. We are living and surviving the wet bulb temperatures. Climate scientists say that people will die in such temperatures by studying models, we don't need such models to know that we are close to death, our bodies (sixth sense) is already telling us that the death is very close to us in such a heat.. Furthermore, our poor governments can not provide us with electricity.
@nellyt2807
@nellyt2807 2 года назад
Maybe like many other countries on this planet maybe Pakistan needs to rethink its population control.all of this planet's problems start with overpopulation and stripping of resources to feed and accommodate those peoples.less people more land trees nature less pollution.# keep it in your pants.
@warrenporter9554
@warrenporter9554 2 года назад
This is not from any natural process taking place. Certain governments/militaries/elite have weather manipulative technologies which we know they are using in their own areas and as an American from USA I can assure you that our criminal, seriously corrupt government and corrupt military leaders are using it against other countries. My govt and military(not directly but leaders in hign places in govt and military along with these FREEMASON elites are working together to harm our own and other countries. People need to wake up. China flat out admits that not only have but are using it and look at the horrific weather related devastating and deadly problems in China right now at this exact moment. 60,000 - 80,000 people missing in China, just missing and dead not even counted. The USA is causing the same here to our own people. The Earth NATURALLY cycles through these hot and cold times so yes it is natural in some cases bit when it happens so suddenly and extreme conditions of hot, cold, wet, or dry then you can guarantee your own or ours is intentionally harming your weather. I don't trust my USA govt even in the slightest amount. The entire world is long overdue for the natural cycling but not natural when so extreme. What I am tired of is the nuts who continue to push this crazy crap when we know for a fact it naturally happens. They are intentionally causing drastic changes through their technology called HAARP which you fools REFUSE to talk about just as you REFUSED to mention it again in this video but instead push the lie that climate is changing so drastically and rapidly and blaming it on what it is not. There is NOTHING you are going to do about climate changing naturally as it is going to happen, cause incredible and drastic change, it will displace people, cause floods, cause drought, cause crazy heat, cause crazy cold, crazy snow, crazy ice etc etc. You aren't stopping that. It is as natural as a human being taking a crap every morning yet you fanatics continue to REFUSE talking about the criminals intentionally altering the weather with their technology and instead go on your crazed rants and babblings about how everyone needs to give up their freedoms and all of their cash to fight a naturally occurring change that you CANT do a damn thing about. What you are seeing that is causing rapid effects is not natural nor what you claim. There is natura changrl going on and criminals using their satanic technology to make it look way worse so you'll give in to their NWO. Start talking about the weather manipulation going on because you KNOW they are using it to harm and you KNOW no matter what you claim about burning oil and coal or whatever there is NOTHING you can do to stop the earth from having natural climate changes. You along with the rest of the far left are pushing false claims and refuse to expose the weather manipulation going on. You are not stopping a natural earth cycle of forever changing climates. What you can change you refuse to tell the truth about. People went through this same thing many times in the past right where you are. They went underground. They had to migrate. Cold places may get colder or warmer. It depends. Warm places may get warmer or colder. It depends.
@VickiNikolaidis
@VickiNikolaidis 2 года назад
Policy makers are stuck in war mind set and I am thinking especially of the USA and UK. We have to force a change.
@harrynac6017
@harrynac6017 Год назад
We (the Netherlands) had our first time above 40°C ever, 2 years ago. I hated it. I can't imagine what it's like living in your regions. I'm surprised people (and animals) survive, let alone get any work done.
@jeanjacquesdessalines1425
@jeanjacquesdessalines1425 2 года назад
Merci à tous !
@GregoryJWalters
@GregoryJWalters 2 года назад
Super: Thank you!
@christill
@christill 2 года назад
Glad to see the regular episodes back rather than those snooze fest legal ones.
@raymondford7252
@raymondford7252 2 года назад
Why no mention of the massive flooding in Australia this year ..five in total .. one town is not rebuild-able. Temperature records are being set all over the globe during La Ninja . Here in British Columbia we are happy to have a rest from the wildfires ( so far ) as it has been very cold with tons of rainfall.
@dion8962
@dion8962 2 года назад
We just broke a record temp for this day 6/26 in Astoria Oregon @ 92F
@lpappas474
@lpappas474 2 года назад
@@dion8962 And in June they had Snow in British Columbia and Lake Tahoe CA.
@mahande88
@mahande88 2 года назад
@@dion8962 Orographic wind. It happens. That's not global warming.
@perium22
@perium22 2 года назад
I smashed the like button!
@dion8962
@dion8962 2 года назад
We are having a heatwave in the Pacific Northwest USA this weekend and Astoria Oregon hit an all time record high temperature for this day 6/26 @ 92F. Thank you for the content. I really enjoy your conversations. Good to know some people still care enough about Earth to have the conversation. Greetings from Seaside Oregon
@morgothra4483
@morgothra4483 2 года назад
@@jakl2369 Thank God you've arrived. We need our greatest scientific minds on top of this! 😂
@dion8962
@dion8962 2 года назад
@@jakl2369 Climate and weather has been monitored and recorded for generations. Tree rings and glacial core readings give tons of data that go back hundreds if not thousands of years. Theres no guessing anymore. The science, as explained very clearly in these videos indicates exactly what has happend in the past, whats happening now, and what is going to happen in the future on the current trajectory of human population, human activity (land use), and energy consumption.
@dion8962
@dion8962 2 года назад
@@jakl2369 Your previous comment “none of it means anything”, is not common sense. Totally false statement. It absolutely means something. Earths climate systems are totally measurable and outcomes can be accurately predicted, based on historical data from the past.
@bossdog1480
@bossdog1480 2 года назад
@@jakl2369 Absolutely.
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
The myth that CO2 rise always follows temperature increases is debunked here: skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm
@patar4568
@patar4568 2 года назад
One weird thing happened in the 2015-16 El Niño, was that California did not get the rain… vanished over us and hit Texas instead. Unlike the 1998 El Niño that hammered California.
@PaulPukite
@PaulPukite 2 года назад
Only can understand El Nino / La Nina cycles by how tidal forcing interacts with the geophysical fluid dynamics.
@accessaryman
@accessaryman 2 года назад
great presentation with the data, but it fails in the respect that humans will never be able to change the environment we live in, apart from living sustainably. we need to accept the natural changes and adapt to them, keep our individual spaces clean and tidy, free of pollution.
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 2 года назад
I was a wildland firefighter in Saskatchewan in 2015, which was the record year for fires in the province.
@VickiNikolaidis
@VickiNikolaidis 2 года назад
That sounds really dangerous.
@matthewcraig8926
@matthewcraig8926 Год назад
Glad you're not up there in 2023. Sounds very bad this year.
@wadeinn463
@wadeinn463 Год назад
March 9 (Reuters) - La Niña has ended and ENSO-neutral conditions are expected to continue through the Northern Hemisphere spring and early summer 2023, a U.S. government weather forecaster said on Thursday, with El Niño possibly forming during summer 2023 and persisting through the fall. "The forecaster consensus favors ENSO-neutral through summer 2023, with elevated chances of El Niño developing afterwards," the National Weather Service's Climate Prediction Center said. The La Niña weather pattern is characterized by unusually cold temperatures in the equatorial Pacific Ocean. There was an over 50% chance of the El Niño weather pattern emerging by the July-August-Septmeber period, the U.S. forecaster highlighted, as some regions braced for a hit to crop production.
@robinhood4640
@robinhood4640 Год назад
If there is one thing that isn't getting the talk time that it should, regarding climate, it's just how bad air pollution is for us now. Not how bad it will be in 50 years, or how bad it might be if we don't take it seriously. Air pollution, at levels currently considered not harmful, are affecting the human body at a cellular level, causing oxidative stress and inflammation. Each and every disease which has an inflammatory aspect is being considerably exacerbated by the air we breathe. Millions of people die early every year because of the modifications we have made, and are still making, to the air we breathe.
@terrencecescon102
@terrencecescon102 Год назад
The lack of knowledge of the causes for cycle changes calls into question the ability to predict in the long run. Whether or not the weather patterns will cause global or local effects is just not known. The patterns are generalities; but the details matter and widely vary. Thus we cannot say that El Nino southern oscillation WILL cause anything. We are very ignorant of these extremely complicated systems.
@paulchace2391
@paulchace2391 2 года назад
Regina, you are beautiful!!!
@jjessicalynn
@jjessicalynn 2 года назад
Thank you for this information. I am a climate activist, It seems like “it” has to happen before people and our governments act. Fossil fuel companies are criminal. Governments are still funding criminal companies. I went to visit the Great Barrier Reef in 2016 and I remember the guide telling us that the reef if dying. I didn’t understand why and no one explained to me that fossil fuels were the reason. Even when the Amazon was on fire, I didn’t think about fossil fuels. Our governments, the media, and fossil fuel companies are complicit in the greatest crime ever done to humanity and to the world.
@jocelynevkb5889
@jocelynevkb5889 2 года назад
Thanks to the team from Darwin, Northern Australia. It's been 2°C warmer up here INSPITE of la Niña! At 36-38 +°C & 80% + Humidity, it's hard to cope, while southern parts of Australia flooded, two years after violent bushfire episodes ... In Northern Italy, a never seen drought is now affecting crops due to lacking alpine snow falls in 2021/22 ... A similar situation in the Himalayas, with even more dire consequences for the Mio of subsistence farming communities which depend from melt water. As for Africa & South America, the ever increasing number of climate refugees speak for themselves. How to curtail human greed for fossil fuels while wars were/are being fought FOR or WITH these Climate annihilating finite resources? Through the publication and mass spreading of Scientific Data & demanding our politicians act on the global Climate Emergency situation NOW! 'All' it takes for the survival of Ecosystem Earth is a shift to subsidise research & implement Renewable energy sources. Big Ask but Time is truly Running OUT.
@ward1117
@ward1117 Год назад
Never before seen drought? There was another severe drought that occurred in Italy back in 1952. Also, multiple rivers across Europe dried completely several times over the past 2 thousand years due to cycles of recurring droughts that led to terrible famines throughout history. Did you know that the hottest known Summer in Europe was actually in 1540. There was alot less co2 in the atmosphere back then, right? If it happened today, it would be atomically blamed on fossil fuels. Many extreme weather events from decades and even hundreds of years ago where much worse than some of our modern-day events. An ignorance of history is why so many people believe that bad weather is something new today when it happens in their backyard for the first time.
@rajwanteerobinson1761
@rajwanteerobinson1761 2 года назад
Wrote on this topic 2 years ago on climate mission platform and I’m was the only one who has been rehearsing on El Niño & La Niña
@Will-ll4gv
@Will-ll4gv 2 года назад
I have 2 questions , first that northern pacific blob that existed back in 2015/16 that put a damper on the El Niño for southern cal., was that from the Fukushima disaster? Secondly what was the condition that existed in 2005/6 because in southern cal, we had the second wettest season on record, ever!
@slussen6693
@slussen6693 Год назад
I saw a video a couple years back that in england they had measured that it was 12% more atmospheric moisture, that would represent 1,8 degress celsius warmer planet, if that was true we must be at atleast at 2 degress celsius warmer planet Today. has anyone tried to calculate how the planets New Climate/Weather Equilibrium will be in the future , when the Climate/weather system is stabilised, according to the new amount of Energy in the system.
@johnbaxter189
@johnbaxter189 2 года назад
There's only one Paul Beckwith. Love u all tho.
@ichbineddie
@ichbineddie Год назад
9:53 Maybe from the ice caps and glaciers melting. This could be why the past many years we've been experiencing a more La Nina like weather. Maybe before the "Permanent" El Nino state we'll see is right after the La Nina state due the, ultimately, gloabl warming?
@votemonty1815
@votemonty1815 2 года назад
Never been this early. Hello Warming World.
@morgothra4483
@morgothra4483 2 года назад
Very good talk guys. Thank you. I'm seriously interested in why the baseline has moved from 1750 to considerably later. I'd love to know to what degree one might 'handicap' for the moved goalpost.
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
Here's reference that I believe discusses your question. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5544117/ . Quote from paper: The calculated mean difference between 1850-1900 and the period 1401-1800 in different models ranges from 0.10 to 0.18 °C (multi-model mean 0.13 °C, see supplement for more details), with some dependence on the period analysed due to the dip in GHGs in 1600. This yields an estimate of warming to 1850-1900 with a 5-95% range of 0.02 to 0.20°C.
@morgothra4483
@morgothra4483 2 года назад
@@ClimateEmergencyForum You are so kind. I've been having poor luck finding this information and really appreciate your help. The picture is grim as all get out any way one looks at it yet having the as many of the data points as possible somehow means a lot. Thank you so much!
@morgothra4483
@morgothra4483 2 года назад
@@ClimateEmergencyForum I just gave that a first quick read and that is precisely what I wanted to know. Much appreciated! 👍
@victorschwanberg
@victorschwanberg 2 года назад
I have been warning people about the dangers of climate change for nearly 30 years and they mostly think I'm crazy especially in the early days. Apart from not using fossil fuels what would you experts suggest governments do at this stage of warming to get back to some form of normality?
@chain8847
@chain8847 2 года назад
Animal agriculture could be drastically cut. MEER reflection project needs to be funded. Spraying reflective particles on dwindling arctic ice. Ships could be built that suck up sea water and turn it into clouds. These ideas might make a difference. I’m not very hopeful anything will be done while there’s still dollars to be made for the disgustingly wealthy.
@victorschwanberg
@victorschwanberg 2 года назад
@@chain8847 Thank you for your reply, I'm not very hopeful either but believe we must try.
@nellyt2807
@nellyt2807 2 года назад
Introduce a one child limit even if you divorce you have had your quota one child period.
@victorschwanberg
@victorschwanberg 2 года назад
@@nellyt2807 Agreed but it's a bit hard on divorced people.
@nellyt2807
@nellyt2807 2 года назад
I know but if what we are being told is near truth then we will have very difficult decisions to make or we all perish together . We will have very difficult decisions in the future of face dire consequences because we didn't have the stomach for those decisions.
@tedbohne
@tedbohne Год назад
420.47 ppm This table presents the most up-to-date, daily average reading for atmospheric CO2 on the planet.
@bminusconstruction4212
@bminusconstruction4212 2 года назад
Just Let Nature Take its Course
@davidwischer1335
@davidwischer1335 2 года назад
It’s not natural now
@bminusconstruction4212
@bminusconstruction4212 2 года назад
@@davidwischer1335 neither is the glut of over population either the Govt. Nature or the Elite will push for Balance. So Hold on.
@WalkinBeauty278
@WalkinBeauty278 2 года назад
Has there been any study about the possible repercussions due to the lowering of aquifers ...beyond thirsty and hungry people
@richardtheweaver4891
@richardtheweaver4891 2 года назад
Lots of El Ninos will bring rain to the US southwest, per your map. So is the Great Drying of the area just a blip on the way to lusher times?
@itsureishotout-itshotterin3985
@itsureishotout-itshotterin3985 2 года назад
I get the feeling we’re going to look back on this year and wonder WTF just happened.
@maryottaway4959
@maryottaway4959 2 года назад
How do the air currents, ocean currents, El Nino and la nena together affect our weather?
@lornecraig5480
@lornecraig5480 2 года назад
These guys keep saying a temperature increase of XX. XX over what? Are they implying there is a baseline temperature that the climate is supposed to reside at?
@publicdomain1103
@publicdomain1103 2 года назад
If humans are in the equation, hell yes. Did you get the memo on Wet Bulb Temperature?
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
The temperature increase refers to 'Global Surface Temperature' or GST (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature) also referred to as 'Global Mean Surface Temperature' or GMST. The baseline temperature is referred to as the 'Pre-industrial Levels' which is based on an average GST taken over a specified time period in calendar years. For example the IPCC SR15 Report FAQ Chapter 1 (www.ipcc.ch/sr15/faq/faq-chapter-1/) explains that ‘pre-industrial levels’ could refer to any period of time before the start of the industrial revolution. It goes on to explain the reasoning behind their choice of using the reference period of 1850-1900 to represent 'pre-industrial levels.' It further explains that this is the earliest period with near-global observations.
@matthewcraig8926
@matthewcraig8926 Год назад
Very educational presentation. Thanks I've heard some interesting theory that as the planet continues to warm, La Ninas will actually increase due to meridional expansion of the Western Pacific Warm Pool(aka heat pump of the planet) and the increased thermocline slope between South America to the Western Pacific over time. Just a theory. But wondering if you heard of it or if it makes any sense? Anyway. Here a year later, we have a developing El Nino. And the planet just experienced it's warmest temperature ever recorded in June. And fears are the planet will hit that + 1.5C threshold climate scientists have been warning about during this decade.
@annal3708
@annal3708 Год назад
🙏🙏🙏♥️
@GoBlesstheSky
@GoBlesstheSky Год назад
re Your men are from Mars reference - Surface temp of Venus is about 800 degrees F 1470 C. I will remain confused.
@rickpeterson3278
@rickpeterson3278 2 года назад
Peeter keeps mentioning the problem in the Southern Hemisphere and includes places like India Pakistan and Laos which are totally in the northern Hemisphere
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
Yes, I think there's confusion between the term 'Southern Hemisphere' and 'Global South.' Pakistan, Laos and India are part of the Global South despite being in the Northern Hemisphere.
@rajendratayya8400
@rajendratayya8400 2 года назад
The butterfly effect is sudden change, different from gradual processes.
@DanA-nl5uo
@DanA-nl5uo 2 года назад
So as we continue to over heat the ocean we can expect this cycle to break down same as the jet stream is breaking down... just guessing
@bossdog1480
@bossdog1480 2 года назад
Do you realise just how much water is in the world's oceans?
@DanA-nl5uo
@DanA-nl5uo 2 года назад
@@bossdog1480 gives you some perspective on how much damage we have done by burning ff doesn't it.
@juguez1
@juguez1 Год назад
@Dan-A The jet stream is already screwed. The meanders we're watching for some years now are a new paradigme. For some years ago it even crossed the equator, never ever heard before. That's here to stay and we must adapt to it. Full stop.
@reneharkamp4309
@reneharkamp4309 2 года назад
Venus is hotter than Mars BUT l GET THE POINT😌
@randymanchester6993
@randymanchester6993 2 года назад
The Venus Project - our only hope.
@robertforsythe3280
@robertforsythe3280 2 года назад
Exponential is a description of a function of a line. It is incomplete in that it does not describe the numerical rate nor a change of function as time advances. Because of human nature and what drives change in human activity, I am very pessimistic about being able to stop the coming extinction event. All we will be able to do is slow it down. Human civilization will be long gone when it is over and perhaps the human species. Even if humankind survives there will be no history left. Younger-Dryas here we come.
@yoyoyoyo-qv5hu
@yoyoyoyo-qv5hu 2 года назад
I mean everybody dies. It doesn't have to be such a big deal we can go gently into that good night. 99.9% of species go extinct it's probably our time soon. So what? It's more important on a human level that we continue to strive for our own personal goals because what else can we do. In millions of years time life will evolve again, if not here somewhere else and the cycle will continue.
@publicdomain1103
@publicdomain1103 2 года назад
you mean just keep shopping.
@mari-annnordlien1950
@mari-annnordlien1950 2 года назад
Can the meltwater from Greenland cause The Gulfstream to collapse, so it will be temporary colder in Norway and the surroundings regions?
@lancechapman3070
@lancechapman3070 2 года назад
It could. We are engaged in an experiment for which we have no prior experience! Ocean thermodynamics and Bayesian analysis suggest it may already be in play :(
@publicdomain1103
@publicdomain1103 2 года назад
AMOC. Fresh water dilution to sea water in column breaks the natural flow of density.
@robliptak93
@robliptak93 2 года назад
Dr. carter, watched your Bonn video. It has to be frustrating watching (and begging NOT) the driver take one over the observable cliff.
@lindarose2327
@lindarose2327 Год назад
Who are we kidding. We are so f+>¥Ed. Maybe 3 years at the most. This is exponential and look around you.
@Gringohuevon
@Gringohuevon 2 года назад
Venus is much much warmer than Mars
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
Yes indeed. Not the best analogy. Venus' average surface temperature is significantly hotter than Mars'. She does say cooler 'by comparison' but this is clearly in the sense of 'Color Sensation.' On the Color Sensation wheel Yellow is by comparison cooler than Red: www.sensationalcolor.com/color-temperature/.
@catman8965
@catman8965 2 года назад
You got the Venus and Mars backwards. Venus is the hottest planet in the solar system and it's hotter than Mercury. Mars is cooler than Earth.
@TheErnestCline
@TheErnestCline 2 года назад
I was gonna comment this but you saved me the effort. Cheers ☕
@catman8965
@catman8965 2 года назад
@@TheErnestCline Hey... it's good to have backup.😉👍
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
Yes indeed. Not the best analogy. Venus' average surface temperature is significantly hotter than Mars'. She does say cooler 'by comparison' but this is clearly in the sense of 'Color Sensation.' On the Color Sensation wheel Yellow is by comparison cooler than Red: www.sensationalcolor.com/color-temperature/.
@DukeOfTheYard
@DukeOfTheYard 2 года назад
So you start presenting "scientific" information by claiming that Mars is hotter than Venus? Really?!
@ClimateEmergencyForum
@ClimateEmergencyForum 2 года назад
Yes indeed. Not the best analogy. Venus' average surface temperature is significantly hotter than Mars'. She does say cooler 'by comparison' but this is clearly in the sense of 'Color Sensation.' On the Color Sensation wheel Yellow is by comparison cooler than Red: www.sensationalcolor.com/color-temperature/.
@TheErnestCline
@TheErnestCline 2 года назад
Except in astronomy and heat. Red is cooler than yellow, white and blue
@stevemarshall3986
@stevemarshall3986 2 года назад
In her defense she is describing ways to remember the difference between el nino and la nina. Mars being red in color which most people associate with heat which would represent being el Nino. That being said there are plenty of scientists that don't subscribe to the fear mongering promoted by government funded climate change scientists.
@raymondford7252
@raymondford7252 2 года назад
Thank goodness a green parliament has been elected in Australia ... SARCASM ALERT
@rudyhaugeneder4038
@rudyhaugeneder4038 2 года назад
Is this what happened to past civilizations that suddenly disappeared without explanation that we understand? If so, does that mean a mass modern human die-off could restore some form of natural balance? If not, then it appears we and our fellow species, like the fish, chickens and cattle we love to raise and slaughter and eat, are also doomed, which may be a blessing for them.
@phobicsj
@phobicsj 2 года назад
No mention of sunspot activity driving the cycle?!
@TuliusDestructivus
@TuliusDestructivus 2 года назад
Venus is cold and Mars is hot?? omg
@spotthedraco2353
@spotthedraco2353 2 года назад
Spot the draco 😈 biggest crimes against humanity subscribe 😈👺✌❤
@tacocruiser4238
@tacocruiser4238 2 года назад
I hate La Nina so much. Please bring back El Nino. The Southwest benefits from El Nino.
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