Ocon Has Made it Impossible for Alpine to Keep Him 

Don't you just love it when 5 different people have the same video idea as you and upload it earlier🤣 hope you still enjoy my 2 cents on the Ocon Alpine situation

ocon having that corner is a blazing hot take- gasly can’t disappear

Ocon is not a good teammate, period. He races against his teammates harder than he does against other teams, ridiculuous.

When Ocon had his front wheels ahead of Gasly, where was Gasly supposed to go? He was against the wall already.

I see your point but where was Gasly suppose to go? In the example given between the Redbull and Haas there was somewhere for the Hass to escape to. Gasly's only option was to hit the wall or not to hit the wall which would have compromised his race. It was implied whoever was the lead car had priority and the second car was basically going to act as a buffer. Not sure what Ocon was thinking but they would have both looked good if they had both brought in points for the team. Gasly got squeezed hard by Ocon for no reason end of story. Ocon had nothing to prove other than his pride. Alpine/Renault as an org that needs a complete reset or bought our right by a better ran organization. Their leadership just plain sucks.

I just don’t think Gasly has time to react to Ocon’s lunge, and he also wouldn’t have expected it from his teammate so he wouldn’t be anticipating it knowing Ocon was behind him - enjoyed the video nonetheless!

"When you're beaten, you just have to wash out." Wash out where? Into the wall? Ocon put Gasly into a situation where the latter couldn't win. You can't brake under steering without risking a lock-up, and he couldn't go off the track because then he'd be in the wall.

The problem with Ocons overtake is he hasn’t left any room on corner exit. Gasly had already tightened the corner to cover and dissuade Ocon from making a lunge, yet Ocon still went for the gap anyway. Like what can Gasly do here? If he slows Ocon’s rear wheel clobbers his front, he moves left he’s going into the wall. There’s nothing for him to do, Ocon needed to hold a tighter line and ensure space was left on the exit, but really against his teammate he should never have gone for that move.

The Ocon apologist returns.

I think that once Ocon was deserving of space, Pierre couldn't back out because he had the wall on his left and braking without going to the left would result in the same crash. It is up to Ocon to overtake safely and he didn't so he definitely deserves a penalty

The difference between the clip you showed of the Haas being run off when a half a car back, and the Ocon incident, is you can’t run someone off the track in Monaco, there’s just no space. Unless Gasly came to a complete 0kph stop, there was no chance he’d avoid contact, and even then they probably still collide, best case is probably that Gasly crashes into the wall on his own.

Aldas starts doing a little go karting & all of sudden he's a race driver. Shit take

"When the driver in front of you and overtaking you has the inside line and is half a car length in front of you... I am sorry, but you have lost that corner." When the driver overtaking you has your front end sandwiched between the wall and their sidepod and is understeering into you... I am sorry, but you have nowhere to go. This is most burnt toast take I think I've heard about this collision.

Ocon is very fond of "high risk, little to no reward" scenarios, specially against his teammates. Maybe he would've been fine if F1 allowed teams with only one driver, but he's the number one enemy of teamwork and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up leaving F1 sooner than expected due to teams losing any interest in his work.

When a “beat my teammate at any cost” mentality literally results in millions in damage + costing WCC points, it’s just self-sabotage. I think EO can be brought under control by a TP like Vowles making it incredibly clear how they expect Ocon to behave on track against teammates.

You can analyse all ocons’s crashes like this. It’s the sum of these that make him lose his value. It’s not a drivers fault, it’s a character flaw.

what a wheel knowledge by aldas, there is not a single valid argument to justify ocon

Where could gasly go? The wall? The move Ocon made was to agressive and he shouldnt have done that.

Don't get me wrong, Ocon is very good driver and I do think him being put on a bench in anyway would be a drastic response by Alpine for this incident, especially since he has won the qualifying teammate battle so far in 2024. That said, ever since 2017 (with the exception of Danny Ric in 2020) Ocon has somehow found a way to be a complete nightmare to every single teammate and he himself doesn't seem to care Edit: Yes Ocon was technically ahead after the corner but Gasly had nowhere to go (unlike Mick in that Silverstone '22 footage with Verstappen), I'd still put it on Ocon

When Ocon squeezes Gasly to the point that they have crossed wheels, it makes no sense to claim that Gasly should back off as this would have caused the exact same accident anyway, while the barrier right next to the track means he can't step outside either. Absolutely nothing to blame Gasly for in this case.

Ocon was specifically told not to do what he did. And regardless if the pass was clean it ended up with a car for the team out of the race. Ocon is a d bag.

Damn, aldas actually blamed gasly for it

I think a bigger problem is that everyone knew it was a terrible idea putting these 2 together and also Alpine shooting themselves in the foot with Fernando's & Oscar's contracts 2 yrs ago

Yes, Ocon is a half car lengths ahead by the middle of the corner. But unlike the other tracks you showed, Gasly has nowhere to go. He cannot even break because they're already bound to hit each other by the midpoint. Portier is not a corner that you lunge someone especially your teammate.

If Ocon was on as many penalty points as Magnussen then he wouldn’t have got a penalty

where was gasly supposed to go? The wall? 😂😂😂

I understand your point of view with the corner. However if you're Gasly, where do you go? It's Monaco, theres barely enough room on the straights to pass. Gasly couldn't do anything because if Gasly backs out he gets run over by someone behind him. In that event Alpine still only get one car in the points.

3 Charisma having frog-boy. "This is why everyone hates you"

I think you’re not taking into full account a few things 1) the new tyres mean even less visibility so “washing out of the corner” is not really viable with the barrier right there. 2) the amount you can actually see in the cars themselves. You are basing this off the halo view and not the helmets. Check the helmet cam of previous races there’s not a lot you can see. 3) “These drivers are paid professionals and part of the role is to as well as the team principal is to work with other people” yeah that’s probably why the team principal is putting his foot down and threatening him with missing a race. you can wave the carrot all day long if it’s not working you need to use the stick. Ocon has consistently behaved in a poor fashion over the years so it’s probably about time that the team lead stamps his foot a bit.

It must be difficult to be a team player when your teammate is your biggest rival and your seat is largely dependent on your ability to consistently finish ahead of him.

Alonso Brazil 2022s comments aged like wine

Ocon has the talent as a driver but he doesn't have the mentality for F1. The only reason he got a penalty and KMag didn't is the stewards bottling giving Kmag a race ban.

No it’s completely different! He dive bonmed Gasly knowing there’s no space

This video aged like fine wine

If you really think this was Gasly's fault, especially after Ocon was told not to pass Gasly, I will say you are saying this just to be different from others. Ocon is an idiot who cannot accept defeat to his teammate.

Gasly was nowhere to go mate

Dude even he's own parents would not defend him like that lol

Good that you re-examine incidents and are willing to go against the crowd. But Gazly was in no position to retreat from that collision and his was the racing line. Just before the corner he was tight behind Yuki I think so his pace was dictated by the car ahead. I suspect Ocon got hot under the collar because Gazly had squeezed him earlier.

Had Alonso's engine not blown up so many times he would have whiped the floor woth Ocon.

Sorry Aldas but you couldn't be more wrong with your hot take. Jenson taught us in 2017 you can't cut that corner when he flipped Pascal.

1:25 From Gasly POV... is the first time I disagree with you Ocon is a harsh pilot that only think on himself Tell that to Checo, tell that to Fernando... That move in that corner in that track... you no need POV of a On Board camera to know that if you break you will crash the car at your side and if you avoid the crash you will end up in the wall. Is easy to say it on cold but be on that position and moment is another story

I think you don’t understand the concept of space. Perez didn’t leave space to kmag and he thus crashed, ocon didn’t leave space to gastly and he thus crashed

When you see a Prima Donna that is a PITA and won’t listen then it’s best they dump him. He will not learn or listen. Two French drivers was always going to end in tears!

Blaming more Gasly is crazy, sorry man, absolute insane

smaller teams like sauber or williams are expecting drivers to work together so that they can score points consistently. i don’t see how Ocon could fit in.

You're mixing things up. Just because the stewards didn't penalize Kmag for that incident doesn't mean Ocon does not deserve his. You should know better that the FIA is trying to not have a driver banned from a race, hence the leniency. I don't like it, but that doesn't have anything to do with Ocon's incident.

And today he left alpine. Took them too long to realize

Like others (and Brundle) have said, lunging your teammate on lap 1 into Portier is just not a good move. You can go wide on almost any other F1 track on the calendar, not at Monaco. Gasly couldn't move any wider (can't brake to back out because no one expects you to brake on the exit of that corner) and it rightfully backfired on Ocon.

2:10 But in Monaco there is a wall. I think also the penalty was hard, but fair.

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

Always so measured in your opinions but never mincing your words! I’ve got huge respect for what you do with this channel!

Aldas: “I don’t think alpine will bench ocon for the next race” Alpine: that is right because he ll be fired at the end of the season

In front of Gas or not, why the @$$ is he attacking his teammate to put them, as a team, in the each same positions but just with Ocon being in front? He’s a dirty driver, always has been, and he’s incapable of taking responsibility for any carnage he causes. Just look at him laughing in the face of Max after ruining his race a few years ago.

He's really the polar opposite of Magnussen. While magnussen drive very dangerously, at least he's often crash or causing problem to other team on the grid, never touch his teammate on track. While Ocon? Well, his main objective is destroying his teammate (really) 🤣

As much as I dislike Ocon, he’d be a perfect signing for Williams. He’s exactly the type of driver Williams needs as he’ll: a) provide WF1 a reliable benchmark for Alex b) fight to extract the maximum out of the car and he doesn’t need a perfectly balanced car c) he’ll work hard in the simulator/off track and d) he’ll be inexpensive and so much better and hungrier than Bottas.

1:38 At this very moment, @Aldas, that you think Gasly could have done to avoid the clash? Ocon’s rear left wheel is already behind Gasly’s front right wheel. Should he just stopped on the side, waited every other car to get by and then go on from the back??

Great dissection, thank you.

total blatant disregard for his team. Get him out, he’s had more than his share of chances. Theres plenty of fresh drivers like Doohan that are more than deserving of the spot.

This actually aged really well 😅

ocon fights his team mate as if hes fighting for the championship, the way he drives gets on peoples nerves because the aggression just seems to spring from nowhere. i thought ocon and alonso got along well in 2021 and i thought he had genuine potental to be among the top 10 drivers on the grid in the future but in 2022? it was a shit show, and i dont think alonso can be given any blame for it. i will never forget alonso leaving the pits only for ocon to ruin his out lap by blocking him for most of the lap. he did that multiple times and it seems like its repeating again. we expect this kind of stuff from stroll, causing collisions or damaging other people cars but ocon shows more frequent flashs of talent, so its more frustrating that on the track hes a hazard to the team. as for my top 10 at this point in the year (in no particular order) its: verstappen, alonso, sainz, leclerc, norris, hamilton, russell, piastri, hulkenburg and tsunoda. im gutted aston martin has been barrowing parts from jcb because alonso has been massively out performing that car this year, like hulkenburg.

When i seen these two lined up to be teammates i knew there would be friction, i did not expect it to take this long before it had a major talking point. With the history between them and equal now machinery it was more of a matter of time before they started to become a difficult pairing to manage

I appreciate your take as its making us really analyze this. I maybe need to see it from the car cameras behind Ocon, but to me if you pause at 56 seconds in, it appears if Gasly eases off or brakes to let Ocon pass, at "best" the Aston passes Gasly making Gasly and Alpine lose potential points to Aston. And at worse the Aston back wheel clips the Gasly's rear wheel, causing the Aston to go airborne with a whole grid behind and even more havoc.

I swear i've watched this video five times today lol

You are forgetting that they discussed prior to the race not to attack each other as both had a chance for points positions. Ocon disobeyed team orders. End of story.

All respect for Ocon making it to the F1 grid and being a race winner despite not being born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but the dude is an absolute dick to his teammates.

Bro, Gasly had nowhere to go!

I just love how Aldas uses this ost that makes it look like Ocon's career is over.

It's crazy to think Ocon could get replaced yet Stroll is still allowed to race.

The french civil war continues 😂😂

Some crazy takes on this video

appreciate this objective view of the situation. Respect!

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Earned a sub with your take on this. Fully agree. We have 2 drivers and neither will give way to the other. Beat each other at all cost. That says it all.

Great videos love them

He's unliked by fans and by the drivers, playing a risky game ocon my friend

I hate this for Ocon because he's one of my favorites. He was performing well before this race, but his actions have consequences.

What I haven't heard people talk about a lot is that it is curious that the penalty was given due to Ocon and Gasly being team mates. Usually in incidents between team mates, the stewards are more lenient as the team is already punished enough. It's just an additional argument (first lap, move not as unclean as people make it appear) for why I find the penalty very harsh. Of course it was still totally stupid by Ocon not following team instructions, but that's not the stewards thing to judge.

It was Ocon running wide without care is the issue for me. Also I agree if Kmag didn’t get a penalty why did Ocon get a 5 place grid penalty. That penalty is harsh. The FIA is ridiculous.

Gasly : "You gotta eitter be blind or stupid to no se me there... "

Ocon is a quality driver with a shit attitude as his achilles heel

it would be worth their time benching him for one race to let mick or jack have a go in the car and comparing them against gasly. that way they can asses if its worth signing one of them for next year.

Finally a video where someone did there analysis

Well this video aged very quickly…

Imagine being so out of touch with reality to think that he's gonna leave the team he's carrying

i think it’s more about squeezing him out of the corner because he ran wide gasly runs out of track

I agree, dude definitely has a complex about his drive. He has said repeatedly he has had to fight for every single thing to get to F1 and never had an easy ride. People like that in general will literally do anything to stay at the top because they know more than most what the bottom feels like, but he really has to find a way to chill TF out, because you go too hard, which he's been doing, and alienate everyone around you, and there will be no one left that wants to be in his corner. Also I'm sure with all the new sponsors coming in, they also need clean races to keep those checkbooks wide open.

If you watch thoroughbred horses race, they have a single-minded goal, to be the front horse, restrained only by the mighty little man on their back. They just cannot help themselves, it’s primal. It’s almost like Ocon is the same way; when he’s behind the wheel he just can’t help himself. He seems like a pleasant guy off-track, but on-track he is a jerk.

magnussen was on the inside, and got crashed out by perez's lack of awareness, while gasly was on the outside being rammed into a wall, the stewards did good,

33 views in 2 minutes is good I'm a big fan

Here we go every RU-vidr blowing this way out of hand

I've Heard the comparison to the Hamilton Rosberg Crash in Barcelona 2016, yes that was a Championship fight etc etc but apparently what Wolff did, was Tell Ham and Ros to pay for the Costs of approximately 400k themselves. Only TELLING a Driver "think of the Team, dont so it again" etc will not Change ocons mind... He Just isnt a Teamplayer, i Wonder If Theres even any Team Out there being interested in such a Driver... Yes He is faster than gasly this year so far, but you still need a Teamplayer in the Position alpine is in...

Do notice that in the clip of Verstappen-Schumacher, Schumacher has the space to concede the overtake... Gasly would be in the wall if he gave way in that corner, there just isn't space to make that corner on the line Ocon took... and the worst part is that its on his TEAMMATE, which means that if ANY contact happened, its still compromising the team. In the instance no red flag occurs, Alpine get 0 points from Monaco, so its a bit daft to say Ocon is just "unlucky".

I think to say that Gasly needed to give more room is a bit silly, he was right up against the wall already and had other drivers behind him so he can’t just slam on his brakes and cause a pile up, Ocon didn’t leave enough room on his exit if he was to overtake on that corner and risked both drivers race on the first lap

How is Gasly under performing? He and Ocon finish close in the standings every race. I fail to see how you think that Gasly is under performing. Gasly consistently puts the car in the mid field along with Ocon.

Nah man, Gasly had no fault in this incident. Ocon should have never tried. Gasly couldn't avoid it without creating other dangerous situations.

They could have hypothetically created Le French Wall in p9 and p10 in the race

We all know you hate Gasly but even for you blaming the guy who got squeezed into the wall 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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And you were correct. It is done. He is gone for next season.

I agree with your analysis on the crash. In Monaco you have to be aggressive or else there won’t be any overtakes.